The dump bed is likely built by Galion Godwin Truck Body, which was an accessory truck body that Ford offered in their Model AA and Model BB trucks (which were heavy duty versions of their trucks). Mechanical dump beds were being phased out shortly after World War I, because a number of hydraulic versions came out right after the war. The mechanical dump bed has an interesting feature, the cams it rotates on moves the pivot point further back on the bed the further up the bed goes - which causes it to have a very low initial operating force because the pivot point is in the center, but the weight of the shifting cargo towards the back causes a mechanical advantage which allows the force of lifting the bed to be reduced the further back it tilts. The company had been producing tilting dump beds back when they were still horse drawn wagons, so this is a further refinement of the mechanisms used in wooden wagons with dump beds.
It resembles the pivot, if you can call it that, on a rolling bascule bridge. There's a dandy in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin, from 1931. But that one is a sector of a circle. This is quite interesting!
That dump bed is really something. I’ve never seen a mechanism like that. It should dump easy with a good amount of weight if evenly distributed. It really needs to be swapped onto a smaller truck, that Oshkosh is a beast.
I was surprised how easily it worked, and the rocking pivot actually moves the pivot point as the center of mass changes. I'm going to have to find a good truck for it...
The amount of engineering that was put into that dump bed when it was developed must have been significant. It’s a really clever design. I hope we get to know it’s history
You may want to take a closer look at that broken air line. You may have a air powered fan clutch/ shutterstat if so you might want to check the fan clutch thermostat located in the coolant system of the engine. They can default open or closed/off on.
That box had to be for a model TT ford truck, the As had some gravity dumps but hydraulics were being used by the early 30s. But by the length I really think model T era 1927 or older would be my best guess.
I saw a Grease Cups on the gears that lift the bed. They keep the shafts they're on lubed. Unscrew the caps, clean them out, and put some more grease in the cups and re-install them. Ya just give them a turn clock-wise every now and then to introduce a bit more grease to the moving gears. They work great!
The dump box was used for ballast. You only dumped it at the end of the season or if you need to get into something underneath the box. It came with the truck from the factory. The chain was used for "snapping" a truck up the hill that had spun out, usually because they ignored the chains required signs.
Great job getting to old girl back into service! Somebody probably already mentioned all of this, but just in case: 1. You need a 90 on the end of the air line so it’s not in a bind. 2. You need to straighten the plow guide rods and or extend them so you can see them from the cab. 3. The bed box is off an older truck that didn’t have hydraulics. It was installed for weight, which you will need for traction in case you ever use it to plow snow. If you try to push snow with no weight in back, you will be disappointed.
You need to take the hand crank box off the Oshkosh and use it elsewhere, (what a really neat mechanism!), then build a "to scale" step side bed for the Oshkosh. I guarantee you would have the biggest pick-up in town! What a great project!
That's one heavy duty truck, I absolutely love the brute strength that it has. It really sounds like it's running well, you have done a good job. Thanks for another fine video 👍☮️🇺🇲
The slat are called shutter stats, they close until the temp is reached and then opened . The reason for the rubber is the slats aren’t working. Mack trucks had these on all their older trucks. The hydraulic level gauge with temp is actually pretty common on hydraulic tanks.
Manual dump because it was not used a lot. It is a hopper for weight. But as you said it would be a nice tool for another truck. Even put an electric motor and chain on the crank
Gee it looks like so much fun playing with those old vehicles, I wish I was there with you. Thanks for sharing your tinkering with us. Take care buddy and cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Thing on the side of hydraulic tank is both a sight gauge and a temperature gauge. It's primary function is the hydraulic oil level and the temperature gauge is kind of a bonus feature.
That is quite an ingenious dump mechanism. The Oshkosh trucks I saw most often, had a power unit on the back to drive a snow blower. Those blower and plow trucks, would make quick work of a 10,000 ft runway, covered with packed snow. I was thinking about the fact that you can't see the position of the plow, and I would make an indicator like I have on my plow. I have a rod, mounted on the plow, that extends up high enough that the tip is level with the hood when the plow is lowered. I have a length of red coloured tape, wrapped around the stick, to indicat the full up position.
The beaker panel is actually smart. This truk is built to work in all kinds of nasty weather. The maker assumed every bit of wiring might get wet or bulbs broken and exposed to shorting. a fuse panel might trap moisture and cause more servicing trouble. Breakers kept the fuse panel from being another problem center.Oskkosh is famous for military / emergency services vehicles. They have a different mindset than your common Ford Jeep, or Chevy builder. In their way they are RollsRoyces.
Im a heavy equipment mechanic and that gauge on the hydraulic tank is absolutely a level gauge. The temp gauge is there to show u what oil viscosity u should be running at the ambient temp of the environment you're currently operating in.
👍👌👏 Thanks for the update. It's very impressive how fast and easy the dump bed can be put to work with this relatively simple but effective mechanism. Best regards luck and health.
Hey man, just found your channel - damn you are livin' the life! Just in case no one else has mentioned it, that dump bed is for salt. plow the snow and salt the runway. Cheers!
Sand or salt, that was my guess too. I tried looking up the make of the bed but no luck. Guessing it was made in the mid-twenties, maybe even aftermarket.
If you can find a larger plow like a Road Plow and a larger piston to lift the plow you would be amazed how much snow the truck will push with no problem, when my town had an Oshkosh with a Frink Plow and a Wing plow, it plowed all through the Blizzard of 1978 without getting stuck, the truck was plowing with a V Plow And I got to drive it from 1980 to 1985 it was the best time of my life the truck had a very tight turning radius too
That is a very early vintage dump bed. Probably more for counter balancing the heavy front plow and added weight for traction on the rear axle Just my $.02.
Ah, yes, the Hanson. That thing could be a OSHA poster for potential danger. Its on my list to get running at some point, it just wasn't in the way this year. Maybe next time I'm there...
I think everyone is guessing at that mysterious brake lever. In older trucks with air brakes that lever is called your spring brake lever and if you were to lose air pressure it allows you to put your spring brakes on in a controlled manner. Not for a trailer or your front brakes.
Cool truck! I wonder if that small bed was used for sand or rock (I've also seen 4x4' concrete blocks used..) for the increased traction that would be necessary for winter plowing .. It seems to be exactly positioned over the rear axle...
The lever on the steering column not for parking but is simply a handbrake. AKA a third foot my uncle used to say. It was a break you could operate by hand when sitting idle on a embankment so you can have foot on clutch and throttle simultaneous and then release the brake with the hand
Great video ! I believe the dump box was for spreading salt,.sand or cinders on the roads in winter also for traction and take weight off the front. I've seen some Osh kosh trucks run by the county near Lake Superior in The U.P. just like it. The hydraulics may leak down while driving, so this was a great idea. Keep the videos coming.
Most hydraulic power packs have the combo temp and level gauge installed. They help to know level of oil and also the temp to ensure the system is not being over worked
*- I really would like seeing the crank dump body rocker arms and tail gate re-plated and welded up.* *- By the look of the balancing set up, a full load of rocks or gravel would be easy to dump.* *- My bet is that it was put to get wheel traction needed for deep wet snow needing chained tires.*
When I saw "Oshkosh" in the title, had to click. But that dump bed is way too cool! Oshkosh channels the Terminator to the Chevy van... "Come with me if you want to live!"
You might want to see if the trailer brake will hold the truck, if so, it’s called a short stop brake. Our buses were fitted with them so on short stops like traffic lights or bus stops it would hold the vehicle without engaging the full parking brake system. The only draw back is they use air pressure to hold the vehicle so if you park the vehicle just on the short stop as soon as the air pressure drops the vehicle can roll away. We had a few buses roll away because of it. One went through a shop front and a couple tried to escape the depot. What a mess when they hit something. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
7:45 actually it's not too much of an effort. the more you have loaded, the more it rocks itself back, with the weight. I imagine it's built so that it's balanced - no matter how much load you have it it. never saw something like this before.
Yeah, its definitely well designed, and surprisingly easy to use. Like you said, as the center of mass of the bed moves back and up, the pivot point also moves back, keeping it balanced as it goes.
The hand brake has nothing to do with a trailer, it operates the front axel only. The maxie button on the dash set the rear axel only. Now of course the foot pedal operates all the breaks. Hope this is helpful 🙂 Now the shutter in front of the radiator had a piston that operated the shutter by temperature. The fan would turn all the time and the temperature of the engine was controlled by the shutter opening and closing as needed, if I'm saying it right. And just as cars and truck of today, there is a temperature controlled clutch in the fan that does away with the shutters. If that truck had a snow plow on it and operated in very cold weather, I'm sure it's why there was a shield or blanket in front of the radiator, the shutter were probably stuck open and that would effect the temperature of the and heater in the cap as well. Once again hope this helps! Thanks 😊 can't get enough. I could really tell you a story about what that had break is all about, but I've talked to long now! Later!
The hand brake should be exactly the same as the foot brake but is there so you can work the clutch and throttle with your feet and work the brakes with one hand when starting on a hard incline.
@@flat6targa You are correct my friend. There's alway a slight delay in air brake systems that help in that same situation on a hill. That's where your quick reflexes come into play. Thank you its how we learn. Take care!
Drove a cabover international with the same type of throttle pedal. Was driving it everyday and it just got to the point it wouldn't go back to idle. What ever that cast piece is made from, it corroded around the steel pivot pin.Took it apart and cleaned it. If you can't find something similar in a junkyard, looks like it will be easy enough to make one.
Dump bed is for sand/salt for the road. You can have it partially up and it will sift it out as you drive. Due to vibration. Also for weight on the rear tires for traction as the front plow is so heavy and hangs waayyy out there in front of the bumper. I'd keep it on for the traction, but yeah, it definitely looks older than the truck. Great find!!
The trailer break air lever works the same as electric trailer brakes, as a proportional valve to set the brakes for differnet load wieghts, to pevent them lockong up if set to high for the load.
I shore enjoy your video's and I'm Subéd for a long time too. I would like to see that Crane that was coming into the video when You was pulling the Chevy Work Van their at the last lil' bit, IF we can. You have alot of interesting stuff there from Your Grand Dad. 👍
The gauge on the hydraulic tank is a temp and sight level gauge for oil , the oil will show in the window where the temp gauge is housed. Byers Products lists them as well as all the hydraulic components in their catalogue. Radiator shutters are installed in front of the rad,
The bed was probly for spreading salt after plowing. Sometimes used with a rotating disc below the tailgate driven from the PTO to broadcast the salt. That could explain why the bed is so much rustier than the cab.
Those dumps were popular in the thirties. They were popular on the AA fords. The fuel pedal is a Ford truck. Find a Louisville in the junkyard and it should work.
Ya I think that dump box is Cool 😎 I’m a HD Mechanic in the Great Wight North. The truck should have a “shutter stat” usually in the lower rad hose. And a “fan stat” if it has a clutch fan. Usually 10* different. Should have a “dry road wet road” lever on dash for front brakes (if it has front brakes) many trucks didn’t. And yes the lever on the steering is called “the hand valve” trucks still have them and yes it’s for trailer control. “Not for parking” 😂 it will roll away when air bleeds down, older trucks it will stay in position newer trucks it’s springs back 👍. You know this but a gate hinge will fix the pedal done it many times ! Love your collection of “good stuff” 👍👍
Thanks, and I appreciate the info! Now I'm thinking that some of the original temp control stuff was eliminated in the 6BT swap, and they just put the flap on the front to make up for it. Probably what I would have done to make things simpler...
I hope he kept that dump bed, it looks intact and fixable.. it’s really rare and at least from the early ‘20s. Keep it and restore it, an antique guy could put that on his early truck….save it !!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent video Oshkosh :) there workhorse trucks also dump bed think 1930 to 1945 use them on old International plus Ford or Chevrolet or Studebaker pick truck of 1 to 3 tons types for early versions of dump trucks! I know Oshkosh truck used same design but box were bigger too of 1951 was used my area ! Blades of snow plow was frieght train type and added adjustments blade on windrow on right side side by crank to chains plus a hydraulic cylinders !
Those circuit breakers likely are Klixon brand. During the heavy snows at speed, or other severe duty those trucks endure in various climate conditions, at times a temporary short circuit within circuits can happen. The Klixons save the day, until the ice buildup etc, is remedied.
Previous people have explained who made the dump box, they are correct, and what vehicles they usually went on. However, I probably have the reason this box is mounted on your truck. Yes, your Oshkosh was a snow plow truck. And back say in the Fifties, or even late forties, if your county was anything like many other county entities, they didn't have a lot of extra money. So, that dump box had been sitting in their back spare parts yard. They mounted that box on the Oshkosh snow plow for weight over the rear tires. They already had the box, they bought the truck at an auction somewhere, added the snow plow and voila. Everything was hunky dory weight and balance wise. In a word, they were practical people, and used what they had on hand to save money. They had common sense. A word seldom used these days, ho!
Some old Toyota Landcruiser (like a BJ42) have a "roller curtain type sheet" as an original part, so you could raise or lower it depending on temp/weather etc. ... maybe that rubber sheet was a replacement for a more permanent radiator cover solution
That looks like an aftermarket dump bed for a model A ford truck. There were thousands of aftermarket accessory suppliers for the modelT and model A fords
*- If I remember correctly, the thermometer fluid is an alcohol because they had to deal down to -40 below freezing in Fahrenheit degrees.* *- I know this because we had one outside the window and a duplicate one that had an outside/inside thermometer...so I would know the temperature while waiting for the school bus...and later when I was old enough to go logging at 6 AM in - 36 degrees F below zero.*
I saw a 1948 Commer with an equaly hand propelled dump bed . Factory option. That's not to say the tub came from the Oshkosh or otherwise. Some industries maintained trouble free systems for long after WWII seeing hydraulics as an expensive liability.
no. that is absolutely a hydraulic fluid level sight gauge. i work with hydraulics every day. it measures the temp of the oil in the sight gauge. fill your tank to the top black line.
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The dump bed is likely built by Galion Godwin Truck Body, which was an accessory truck body that Ford offered in their Model AA and Model BB trucks (which were heavy duty versions of their trucks). Mechanical dump beds were being phased out shortly after World War I, because a number of hydraulic versions came out right after the war. The mechanical dump bed has an interesting feature, the cams it rotates on moves the pivot point further back on the bed the further up the bed goes - which causes it to have a very low initial operating force because the pivot point is in the center, but the weight of the shifting cargo towards the back causes a mechanical advantage which allows the force of lifting the bed to be reduced the further back it tilts. The company had been producing tilting dump beds back when they were still horse drawn wagons, so this is a further refinement of the mechanisms used in wooden wagons with dump beds.
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I'm going to do some research on that manufacturer.
I want that on a pickup!!!
It resembles the pivot, if you can call it that, on a rolling bascule bridge. There's a dandy in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin, from 1931. But that one is a sector of a circle. This is quite interesting!
@@jxh02 oh, you mean the old steel bridge on michigan street? Ya that thing is ancient!
That dump bed is really something. I’ve never seen a mechanism like that. It should dump easy with a good amount of weight if evenly distributed. It really needs to be swapped onto a smaller truck, that Oshkosh is a beast.
Bet that dump box is from a one ton 1920s or 30s truck
Awesome bed I second that about putting on smaller truck.
I was surprised how easily it worked, and the rocking pivot actually moves the pivot point as the center of mass changes. I'm going to have to find a good truck for it...
@@LowBuckGarage after you give it a bit of love with new steel and a welder
Mostly used for sand weight in winter. Could have been used to hold a salt spreader? Cool Find.
The amount of engineering that was put into that dump bed when it was developed must have been significant. It’s a really clever design. I hope we get to know it’s history
You needn't hope. We do know it's history but I wish we knew its history.
And that ladies and gentlemen is how the Low-Buck "Ready Or Not, You're Coming With Me" towing company got started...😉
The hydraulic level gauge has temp on so you don’t overfill it when the oil is hot. As the temp goes up so does the fluid.
You may want to take a closer look at that broken air line. You may have a air powered fan clutch/ shutterstat if so you might want to check the fan clutch thermostat located in the coolant system of the engine. They can default open or closed/off on.
That box had to be for a model TT ford truck, the As had some gravity dumps but hydraulics were being used by the early 30s. But by the length I really think model T era 1927 or older would be my best guess.
That sounds like a good guess 💪
I just looked at some pictures of those, I think you're right. There were a lot of those trucks with a very similar design.
My uncle had a model AA ford with a mechanical dump. It had a wheel instead of a crank and it was on the driver's side. I never saw it operated.
The little dump was usually filled with sand for weight when plowing. These trucks are beasts
I saw a Grease Cups on the gears that lift the bed. They keep the shafts they're on lubed. Unscrew the caps, clean them out, and put some more grease in the cups and re-install them. Ya just give them a turn clock-wise every now and then to introduce a bit more grease to the moving gears. They work great!
The dump box was used for ballast. You only dumped it at the end of the season or if you need to get into something underneath the box. It came with the truck from the factory. The chain was used for "snapping" a truck up the hill that had spun out, usually because they ignored the chains required signs.
I was wondering, it's so small the only thing I could think it could be was a ballast box for snow plowing.
Great job getting to old girl back into service! Somebody probably already mentioned all of this, but just in case:
1. You need a 90 on the end of the air line so it’s not in a bind.
2. You need to straighten the plow guide rods and or extend them so you can see them from the cab. 3. The bed box is off an older truck that didn’t have hydraulics. It was installed for weight, which you will need for traction in case you ever use it to plow snow. If you try to push snow with no weight in back, you will be disappointed.
That was what I thought about the dump bed. Weight for plowing. It would be filled with sand. Which also can be used for traction on the ground.
You need to take the hand crank box off the Oshkosh and use it elsewhere, (what a really neat mechanism!), then build a "to scale" step side bed for the Oshkosh. I guarantee you would have the biggest pick-up in town! What a great project!
That dump bed design would be great for a dump trailer or UTV. It's ingenious
That's one heavy duty truck, I absolutely love the brute strength that it has. It really sounds like it's running well, you have done a good job. Thanks for another fine video 👍☮️🇺🇲
The slat are called shutter stats, they close until the temp is reached and then opened . The reason for the rubber is the slats aren’t working. Mack trucks had these on all their older trucks. The hydraulic level gauge with temp is actually pretty common on hydraulic tanks.
Shutters on all the older diesel trucks and sometimes called a winter front
You brightened up my day 😊
Manual dump because it was not used a lot. It is a hopper for weight. But as you said it would be a nice tool for another truck. Even put an electric motor and chain on the crank
Gee it looks like so much fun playing with those old vehicles, I wish I was there with you. Thanks for sharing your tinkering with us. Take care buddy and cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Very cool dump bed. Well worth refabricating the parts it needs
Truck was a semi truck,the Johnny valve( the brake lever under steering wheel) is for trailer braking. This also explains the tiny dump bed.
It’s like watching a cooler new yankee workshop with awesome toys
The 48 Commer had a sixteen foot long deck too. Instead of raising rollers the deck was fixed to the sector. Mpty my friend lifted it up with one arm.
Thing on the side of hydraulic tank is both a sight gauge and a temperature gauge. It's primary function is the hydraulic oil level and the temperature gauge is kind of a bonus feature.
That is quite an ingenious dump mechanism. The Oshkosh trucks I saw most often, had a power unit on the back to drive a snow blower. Those blower and plow trucks, would make quick work of a 10,000 ft runway, covered with packed snow. I was thinking about the fact that you can't see the position of the plow, and I would make an indicator like I have on my plow. I have a rod, mounted on the plow, that extends up high enough that the tip is level with the hood when the plow is lowered. I have a length of red coloured tape, wrapped around the stick, to indicat the full up position.
Found your site not long ago, watching all your videos, better than Yellowstone, thank you so much.
The beaker panel is actually smart. This truk is built to work in all kinds of nasty weather. The maker assumed every bit of wiring might get wet or bulbs broken and exposed to shorting. a fuse panel might trap moisture and cause more servicing trouble. Breakers kept the fuse panel from being another problem center.Oskkosh is famous for military / emergency services vehicles. They have a different mindset than your common Ford Jeep, or Chevy builder. In their way they are RollsRoyces.
Im a heavy equipment mechanic and that gauge on the hydraulic tank is absolutely a level gauge. The temp gauge is there to show u what oil viscosity u should be running at the ambient temp of the environment you're currently operating in.
👍👌👏 Thanks for the update. It's very impressive how fast and easy the dump bed can be put to work with this relatively simple but effective mechanism.
Best regards luck and health.
Hey man, just found your channel - damn you are livin' the life!
Just in case no one else has mentioned it, that dump bed is for salt. plow the snow and salt the runway. Cheers!
Snowplows with front blades need weight over the drives. Could have had sand or salt👍
Sand or salt, that was my guess too. I tried looking up the make of the bed but no luck. Guessing it was made in the mid-twenties, maybe even aftermarket.
A lot of time those trucks just had a flatbed with a couple big concrete blocks for weight.
If you can find a larger plow like a Road Plow and a larger piston to lift the plow you would be amazed how much snow the truck will push with no problem, when my town had an Oshkosh with a Frink Plow and a Wing plow, it plowed all through the Blizzard of 1978 without getting stuck, the truck was plowing with a V Plow
And I got to drive it from 1980 to 1985 it was the best time of my life the truck had a very tight turning radius too
That is a very early vintage dump bed.
Probably more for counter balancing the heavy front plow and added weight for traction on the rear axle
Just my $.02.
Hats off to Grandpa, who had some really cool stuff in his backyard.
Very nice. I love seeing all these vehicles in action.
Excellent series! I love your videos. Good fun
Cool video ! Thanks,
Especially the dump design,
I've never seen that style crank dump ! Nice truck !
I don't think we can ignore whatever is in the wood behind you @ 11:38 and I think we need to see it alive!! :-) Awesome video as always!
Ah, yes, the Hanson. That thing could be a OSHA poster for potential danger. Its on my list to get running at some point, it just wasn't in the way this year. Maybe next time I'm there...
I seen one of these trucks snow plowing in the mid west in 6 feet of drifted snow It was a beast
I think everyone is guessing at that mysterious brake lever. In older trucks with air brakes that lever is called your spring brake lever and if you were to lose air pressure it allows you to put your spring brakes on in a controlled manner. Not for a trailer or your front brakes.
A lot of those old plow trucks had either a salt spreader or just a large block of concrete on the back for weight to give better traction.
Really enjoy your eclectic taste in project choices.
Thanks!
The bed of that truck is fascinating. tHanks for taking the time to show it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds it interesting, I ran the thing up and down quite a few times just watching it work.
What a beast! Dump was used for either sand (weight) or salt.
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Cool truck!
I wonder if that small bed was used for sand or rock (I've also seen 4x4' concrete blocks used..) for the increased traction that would be necessary for winter plowing .. It seems to be exactly positioned over the rear axle...
Used for spreading grit and salt mixture so the road could be driven on and the temperature would need to be a lot colder for ice to form.
The lever on the steering column not for parking but is simply a handbrake. AKA a third foot my uncle used to say. It was a break you could operate by hand when sitting idle on a embankment so you can have foot on clutch and throttle simultaneous and then release the brake with the hand
Great video !
I believe the dump box was for spreading salt,.sand or cinders on the roads in winter also for traction and take weight off the front.
I've seen some Osh kosh trucks run by the county near Lake Superior in The U.P. just like it. The hydraulics may leak down while driving, so this was a great idea.
Keep the videos coming.
That thing is too cool! 😁👍 Thanks for sharing
I think the Oshkosh was a great addition to your collection.
The sight glass on the tank is a level indicator and a temp gage combination
Yes, I have seen these on some of our older mixer trucks.
I’ve never seen anything like that dump bed!! That’s so cool!!! Thanks for sharing!!
Yes it is a thermometer but it’s inside a sight glass for the hydraulic tank. Put them in hundreds of tanks used for truck hydraulic systems.
Most hydraulic power packs have the combo temp and level gauge installed. They help to know level of oil and also the temp to ensure the system is not being over worked
Ah, ok, that makes sense. Apparently its really low on fluid, because I didn't even see oil residue in there.
The dump bed looks like model T stuff or possibly golf course equipment, toro or jacobsin maybe.
*- I really would like seeing the crank dump body rocker arms and tail gate re-plated and welded up.*
*- By the look of the balancing set up, a full load of rocks or gravel would be easy to dump.*
*- My bet is that it was put to get wheel traction needed for deep wet snow needing chained tires.*
We called this air brake a trolly brake.Although they say not to use for parking some drivers did.Used on a Terex 33/11.
I believe that small bed was for carry sand to be dumped on the road while snow plowing plus adding weight/traction to the truck.
When I saw "Oshkosh" in the title, had to click. But that dump bed is way too cool!
Oshkosh channels the Terminator to the Chevy van...
"Come with me if you want to live!"
You might want to see if the trailer brake will hold the truck, if so, it’s called a short stop brake. Our buses were fitted with them so on short stops like traffic lights or bus stops it would hold the vehicle without engaging the full parking brake system. The only draw back is they use air pressure to hold the vehicle so if you park the vehicle just on the short stop as soon as the air pressure drops the vehicle can roll away. We had a few buses roll away because of it. One went through a shop front and a couple tried to escape the depot. What a mess when they hit something. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
7:45 actually it's not too much of an effort. the more you have loaded, the more it rocks itself back, with the weight. I imagine it's built so that it's balanced - no matter how much load you have it it. never saw something like this before.
Yeah, its definitely well designed, and surprisingly easy to use. Like you said, as the center of mass of the bed moves back and up, the pivot point also moves back, keeping it balanced as it goes.
The hand brake has nothing to do with a trailer, it operates the front axel only. The maxie button on the dash set the rear axel only. Now of course the foot pedal operates all the breaks. Hope this is helpful 🙂
Now the shutter in front of the radiator had a piston that operated the shutter by temperature. The fan would turn all the time and the temperature of the engine was controlled by the shutter opening and closing as needed, if I'm saying it right. And just as cars and truck of today, there is a temperature controlled clutch in the fan that does away with the shutters. If that truck had a snow plow on it and operated in very cold weather, I'm sure it's why there was a shield or blanket in front of the radiator, the shutter were probably stuck open and that would effect the temperature of the and heater in the cap as well. Once again hope this helps! Thanks 😊 can't get enough. I could really tell you a story about what that had break is all about, but I've talked to long now! Later!
Thanks, I really appreciate the info. I'm just learning about this thing, and the more I learn the better!
The hand brake should be exactly the same as the foot brake but is there so you can work the clutch and throttle with your feet and work the brakes with one hand when starting on a hard incline.
@@flat6targa You are correct my friend. There's alway a slight delay in air brake systems that help in that same situation on a hill. That's where your quick reflexes come into play. Thank you its how we learn. Take care!
That truck would be a monster with a wrecker body on it.
Seen a bed like that on a 50's model jeep forward cab. The lift mechanism was more like a rack and pinion set-up, with the rack pulling the lift arm.
With the foot petal casting... you could do an investment mold and replicate it, or clean it up and mig weld it on very low amps
Drove a cabover international with the same type of throttle pedal. Was driving it everyday and it just got to the point it wouldn't go back to idle. What ever that cast piece is made from, it corroded around the steel pivot pin.Took it apart and cleaned it. If you can't find something similar in a junkyard, looks like it will be easy enough to make one.
Dump bed is for sand/salt for the road. You can have it partially up and it will sift it out as you drive. Due to vibration. Also for weight on the rear tires for traction as the front plow is so heavy and hangs waayyy out there in front of the bumper. I'd keep it on for the traction, but yeah, it definitely looks older than the truck. Great find!!
The trailer break air lever works the same as electric trailer brakes, as a proportional valve to set the brakes for differnet load wieghts, to pevent them lockong up if set to high for the load.
I shore enjoy your video's and I'm Subéd for a long time too. I would like to see that Crane that was coming into the video when You was pulling the Chevy Work Van their at the last lil' bit, IF we can. You have alot of interesting stuff there from Your Grand Dad. 👍
Thanks! That one's a Hansen model 41. Its on my list to get running, not sure how soon I'll get to it but I will definitely make a video about it!
The gauge on the hydraulic tank is a temp and sight level gauge for oil , the oil will show in the window where the temp gauge is housed. Byers Products lists them as well as all the hydraulic components in their catalogue. Radiator shutters are installed in front of the rad,
The bed was probly for spreading salt after plowing. Sometimes used with a rotating disc below the tailgate driven from the PTO to broadcast the salt. That could explain why the bed is so much rustier than the cab.
Those dumps were popular in the thirties. They were popular on the AA fords. The fuel pedal is a Ford truck. Find a Louisville in the junkyard and it should work.
Ya I think that dump box is Cool 😎
I’m a HD Mechanic in the Great Wight North.
The truck should have a “shutter stat” usually in the lower rad hose. And a “fan stat” if it has a clutch fan. Usually 10* different. Should have a “dry road wet road” lever on dash for front brakes (if it has front brakes) many trucks didn’t.
And yes the lever on the steering is called “the hand valve” trucks still have them and yes it’s for trailer control. “Not for parking” 😂 it will roll away when air bleeds down, older trucks it will stay in position newer trucks it’s springs back 👍. You know this but a gate hinge will fix the pedal done it many times !
Love your collection of “good stuff” 👍👍
Thanks, and I appreciate the info! Now I'm thinking that some of the original temp control stuff was eliminated in the 6BT swap, and they just put the flap on the front to make up for it. Probably what I would have done to make things simpler...
I hope he kept that dump bed, it looks intact and fixable.. it’s really rare and at least from the early ‘20s. Keep it and restore it, an antique guy could put that on his early truck….save it !!!!!!!!!!!
That is one Bad Ass truck. please keep us informed as you progress. Regards from Ody slim
Excellent video Oshkosh :) there workhorse trucks also dump bed think 1930 to 1945 use them on old International plus Ford or Chevrolet or Studebaker pick truck of 1 to 3 tons types for early versions of dump trucks! I know Oshkosh truck used same design but box were bigger too of 1951 was used my area ! Blades of snow plow was frieght train type and added adjustments blade on windrow on right side side by crank to chains plus a hydraulic cylinders !
Those circuit breakers likely are Klixon brand. During the heavy snows at speed, or other severe duty those trucks endure in various climate conditions, at times a temporary short circuit within circuits can happen. The Klixons save the day, until the ice buildup etc, is remedied.
Ah, ok, I could see how ice buildup and extreme cold could cause a temporary short. That makes sense now.
Previous people have explained who made the dump box, they are correct, and what vehicles they usually went on. However, I probably have the reason this box is mounted on your truck. Yes, your Oshkosh was a snow plow truck. And back say in the Fifties, or even late forties, if your county was anything like many other county entities, they didn't have a lot of extra money. So, that dump box had been sitting in their back spare parts yard. They mounted that box on the Oshkosh snow plow for weight over the rear tires. They already had the box, they bought the truck at an auction somewhere, added the snow plow and voila. Everything was hunky dory weight and balance wise. In a word, they were practical people, and used what they had on hand to save money. They had common sense. A word seldom used these days, ho!
The real name for the not for parking trailer service valve is a Johnson bar. Cool truck I see it has Rockwell axles.
10:25 - Chevy box truck says; "No, I'm not!" Oshkosh says; "YES YOU WILL!"
Some old Toyota Landcruiser (like a BJ42) have a "roller curtain type sheet" as an original part, so you could raise or lower it depending on temp/weather etc. ... maybe that rubber sheet was a replacement for a more permanent radiator cover solution
Always thumbs up before i ever watch
I would love to own that truck, she's beautiful
That looks like an aftermarket dump bed for a model A ford truck. There were thousands of aftermarket accessory suppliers for the modelT and model A fords
Fantastic truck - didn’t notice if you said those front wheels are driven too
Yes, they're all driven. Next time I might have to see if I can get it stuck...
A very cool truck!
*- If I remember correctly, the thermometer fluid is an alcohol because they had to deal down to -40 below freezing in Fahrenheit degrees.*
*- I know this because we had one outside the window and a duplicate one that had an outside/inside thermometer...so I would know the temperature while waiting for the school bus...and later when I was old enough to go logging at 6 AM in - 36 degrees F below zero.*
I Love that truck! ❤
I saw a 1948 Commer with an equaly hand propelled dump bed . Factory option. That's not to say the tub came from the Oshkosh or otherwise. Some industries maintained trouble free systems for long after WWII seeing hydraulics as an expensive liability.
man, I'm a jealous man :D
That truck is a babe
Cheers for the upload
Jim
I wish I had that dump bed on a pickup.
hi great show , i think the bed is for road salt !
Love the truck.
Movie “snow day” (i believe) shows an osk kosh in action.
no. that is absolutely a hydraulic fluid level sight gauge. i work with hydraulics every day. it measures the temp of the oil in the sight gauge. fill your tank to the top black line.
The air horn on it sounds great
Thanks for sharing 👍😀
Really neat dump bed…
Those flaps in front of the radiator work in place of a thermostat. if that engine isn't original to the truck, they probably have been disabled.
That loadbed is so small it makes me think that it's more likely used to carry ballast weight for improved traction in the snow.
This tuck would fit perfectly in "MYST" .
Awesome truck