How I Get Better Miles/Traction Out of a Front Tire
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- How I Double the # of Miles out of a Front Tire AND Have Improved Traction and Handling. This Video Answers the Two BIG Questions about Using a Rear Tire In Front on a Trike.
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ATTENTION: It has been pointed out to me that this video can be interpreted that DK Custom Products is endorsing or recommending that you/anyone/someone should use a Rear Tire Reversed, when it clearly states on rear tires that they should be used for rear wheels only. Everyone should do their research, and make their own informed decision.
This video is simply showing what I have been doing on my Trikes, and why.
Sort of like the video I made about putting titanium on my floorboards to make sparks...you can see that video, with the disclaimers in it here- ruclips.net/video/yWc_nI-mHa8/видео.html
It makes sense to run a rear tire reversed on the trike but was curious if the dealer would be willing to install it that way.
I'm a pretty aggressive trike rider, taken a few sharp curves way to fast. I was wandering about the new grip of a softer tire on the front. Any opinions on that?
I realize this is an older video, about 2 years ago but I am here to tell you that I took Kevin’s advice and researched and had a dealership install a rear tire reversed on my 2019 Trike. They even asked me to sign a wavier to not hold them responsible for any problems. I got almost 14k miles out of the OEM tire, most of my mileage is straight AZ interstate riding. Well, you can believe me or not, your choice, but I’m now getting ready to replace the front tire again that still has 4/32” tread depth, and a little over 38K miles on it. Thanks for the heads up Kevin. 👍🏻
Glad that you found the information helpful.
Those are some really good miles you're getting out of that tire. 👍
Thank you for commenting!
I just put on the front of my 2019 Indian CSC the 4th tire.
It's a Michelin
Commander II a flatter service on the road.
After 1000 mi,
A noticeable better ride no slide yet there was some slide in curves with front tire.
60 lbs more gross weight,
Better braking.
All tread is on pavement thick side wall
Congrats on finding a tire you are happy with.
Thank you for commenting! MB
Love your video's. As a women I get tons of info from you guys. My question is: What are dyna beads? What is their purpose? Also can you comment on the brand tire you are putting on the front?? I'm turning 16,000 miles on my 22' TriGlide. Also I am running 22 psi since watching your video! Great job...Thanks Diane
Glad you are finding the videos informative!
Dyna beads are beads that go in the tire to help dynamically balance the tire. The front tire that Kevin runs on his Trike is the tire in this video, Dunlop American Elite.
Thank you for commenting! MB
I've got 16K miles on my stock Dunlop front tire on my 2020 Ultra Trike..Of course I am located in southern Louisiana where there are fewer curves in our roadways
Yeah, it is the curves and corners, along with how aggressively they are ridden, that wears that front tire on the Trikes.
I love my dyna beads! Reusable too!
Well over 100mph and they’re still smoothly balanced, even the same story when I used them in 37” mud tires on my truck.
Yep. I've tried other stuff, always come back to the Dyna Beads.
Take a V on front tire,mount theV going forward.Take the V and look at it from the bottom the groves will squirt out.hope you understand.
Yes, that does. Thanks!
I hope the insurance company doesn't question this if something goes wrong ....other than that...sounds very doable....from Russia with love.... cheers 🍻🇷🇺
True that. That is something to consider.
Wow. Never thought of that. I average about 8k per front tire on my 2016 TriGlide. I will try the rear tire reverse mount next time. I am leaving in a few weeks for a 30 day cross country ride staring in Nevada and probably will need a front tire by the time I get to St. Augustine after visiting Key West. Thank you very much for the excellent suggestion.
I've been very happy going this route with the rear tire reversed. Sounds like you have a great trip planned. Happy and safe travels! Thank you for the comment.
Put rear tire on reversed with balance beads . Still have some vibration. Should I add more beads?
I’ve known guys doing this to regular touring bikes 25years ago. Now, they make touring bikes with different size front & rear.
I was asked the other day why not do this on my Softail. I did not have an answer....I may end up doing it. Going to look into it some more.
Will certainly consider this when my wife's Freewheeler needs a new front tyre. She gets about 8000 mls on a front tyre.
Yes, and a lot of folks have a good experience with the Avon front Trike tire.
I will doing this next week on my GL1500 trike
Awesome! I am sure you will be happy with the results. Thanks for commenting! MB
GREAT INFO!
Glad you like the video! Thank you for commenting! MB
Great Tip. I’ll remember this next tire change👍
Thanks. I am really pleased with the change myself.
Wow I never would have thought, thanks 👍
Glad you found the video interesting/useful! 👍
You might like this one too, on rear tires - ruclips.net/video/aA5U3-cdm2c/видео.html
Thanks
Glad you like the video! Thank you for commenting! MB
Put a car tire on the front. It is designed for that type of flat riding use o which a trike presents.
The Trike rear tires are practically a car tire. Same concept really! Thank you for commenting! MB
If you want good Trike info, this is the place. I don't know of any other channel that covers them. If we all live and ride long enough there will probably be a Trike in our future. There will be in mine someday if I make it that far ! ✌
Thanks for that! Appreciate the good words. 👍
I'll try to remember that when I have to replace the front tire on my 2012 Tri Glide
Happy Riding!
Great Trike tire advice. More bang for the buck! 😎👍🇨🇦
Yes, for sure.
Putting rear tire on front caused excesive cupping on my triglide so I removed the tire and put regular front tire back on. The regular did no cupping. '12 triglide
Sorry for your experience. I've not experienced that. If I had I would suspect one of the following-
Was not reversed
Was not proper PSI
Defective tire.
Avon makes a front tire for trikes only. It is larger then those that come on both harley Davidson and goldwings. More expensive, but the ride is better. Very nice tire.
Yes. I ran an Avon Front Tire for Trike. It was a great tire, as good, or better than a rear tire reversed. Great life, great traction. I would have run another one, but they discontinued the one I ran and replaced it with an "upgraded" model. Well, about 50% of the folks I talked to had a good experience with the upgraded Avon, but about 50% had a bad experience....vibration that they could not get rid of. I did not want to take that chance, so went with a proven tire...one that has virtually no negative reports.
YOU GUYS ARE GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Glad you like the video! Thank you for commenting! MB
I just read some info on Bias - Radial. Goldwings. I kept seeing " GL1500's and back, it is not a radial Tire bike. I noticed the statements all say, Bias ply are Goldwing tires, Not radials. Just came across a point I have not seen before though. that requirement was made back when there were no radial in the sizes that any goldwings take when they started making them as far back as 1100's and they never bothered to change that all the way up till they made GL1800's which have radials/ LOL makes sense to me, super popular bike , probably the most bikes on the road for the longevity - some kind of deal with tire companies maybe?
Awesome guy’s
Glad you like the video! Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Wow! So smart Thanks brother
Glad you found the video useful. Thanks for the comment. 👍😎👍
Thanks for the info is appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow, you have thought this through.
With motorcycle tires costing as much, or more than car tires, but only last 5-10k miles, that is pretty high motivation. lol
I heard you wete coming to Texas hill country! When! Would love to talk teck obout trike and specifically introduce you to Bad Intentions my custom V8 trike.
We are not hitting the Texas Hills this trip. We are headed out West via the northern route. Would have been nice to meet you and see Bad Intentions! Hopefully one day! 😎
very clever
I have been very pleased with it.
I know this is an old thread but I'm still hoping to get some advice. I have a 2016 Road Glide CVO Ultra limited with a front tire of 130 - 80 - 17. Every time I put in that number, comes up as a front tire. No rear tire for that size. What tire would you recommend to put up front for my trike conversion?
As noted in the pinned comment to this video, we cannot recommend putting a rear tire up front, we can only share what Kevin has done on his Trike, and why.
IF we had your conversion the first thing we would do is a google search for 17" rear tires. Here is one link that come up from Harley when doing that search.
www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/t/17-inch-rear-tire?format=json;i=1;locale=en_US;q1=17-inch-rear-tire;sp_cs=UTF-8;x1=primaryCategoryCode
None of them are 130's, so if we wanted to use the 150 in the above link, we would measure the fender and make sure it fits. We could also do a search for 130 rear tires...but those are pretty narrow for a rear tire, so the pickings may be slim or none.
If the fender is narrow to fit the 130, then a rear tire may not be possible. But if it is the standard width front fender, then a 160 should fit.
Hope that helps. 👍😎👍 KP
Ha! I got 17k miles on my new 2021 trike. Original front tire
It is great that you got so many miles out of your OEM tire! MB
I know this is an older video but I'm hopeful for an answer. How do you figure out what rear tire size to use? I have 130/80-NW17 on my 2012 TRI-Glide. Thanks
Getting an equivalent of the 130/90B16 with a load/speed rating of 73H will work/fit.
@@DKCustomProducts Thank you very much Sir !
Will the rear wheel actually fit into the front wheel rim or do you have to buy a different one?😎😎
The rear tire we used fits just fine on the OEM front wheel/rim, AND under the OEM front fender, as shown in the video.
Thanks for commenting.
Here is a video overview of many things done to our most recent Tri Glide- ruclips.net/video/5h77GQJTW1w/видео.html
KP
My goldwing came that way
Kevin, what about using the tires used on can-am Spyders? On tri-glide
I have no idea what tires the Spyders use, so cannot answer that. Apologies.
Kevin I got 8000 out the original tire on our Tri-Glide
Yeah, they don't last very long. I've gotten as little as 5k and as much as 10k.
Thanks guys, good info.
You bet! Glad you found it useful. Thanks for commenting! 👍 KP
How about the diameter, I believe the rear tire is bigger?
Use the same size you are currently running, just the rear tire version of that size. On this 2019 Tri Glide I am running a MT 130/90 B16 73H.
Because a rear tire has deeper tread, it ends up being a little bit larger, but there is plenty of clearance between it and the fender.
Thank you for commenting! KP
Avon Cobra trike tire on the front of mine, with tread reversed. Gonna see how this works out. Ken
If it is an Avon (which I have run and really liked) that is made for the front, I hope you have not reversed it. It is made to run on the front and should not be reversed.
Kenneth, I'll turn her around, no biggie. I really like this tire, has a lot of meat in the center. Will track mileage and let you know what I get. Big improvement over the HD tire that was on her. I plumb wore that one out. I like doin' that. '
98 FLHTCUI with a Champion kit. Just pulled it apart and replaced axle bearings. Splines and spyder gears looked like new. Missed ya at the Trike Talk rally in Kerrville a couple years ago.
Been lookin' for a breather kit, but nothing out there for a stock MM FI backplate. May have to just rig one up.
Ride safe. Ken
@@kenvrla9678 Yeah, the Avon Front Trike Tire as some good meat on it. They also have much better traction than the OEM tire. I think I got close to 20K miles out of mine. I normally get 6-10K out of the OEM tires.
There is a Trike Get Together out in Eastern Arizona coming up. Dunno how far you are, but a bunch of us will be there for some great riding. Here is a link to info on it- www.triketalk.com/forum/threads/60579-Eastern-Arizona-2021
@@DKCustomProducts Ken, we'll be on a trip just prior to this so won't be able to make it. Sorry we will not to be able to see you. We're located 17 miles north of Jefferson,Tx in Linden. If you ever use 59 going north/south you always have a place to stay. Directly across from Trico on 11. Ken
@@kenvrla9678 Sorry we'll miss you. Have a great trip.
We will probably be doing the Eastern AZ get together next year, same time, if you can fit it in.
Thank you for the invite!
Since there's no lean then why not use a car tire?
Many people do. See that more on Goldwing Trikes. Fitting in a HD fender is a challenge.
I need advice on a heavy springer front 2100 lb V8 trike with a 16 in wheel
I am sorry, we do not have any experience with V8 Trikes, so can not offer any informed assistance. Thank you for checking with us.
I will run the rear tire on the front next time I buy a front tire
Glad you like the video! Kevin is well pleased with the change to his front tire! This video was from 2 years ago and he is still doing the same thing!!!!!
Thank you for commenting! MB
Nice, I just got a direction to come here for this explanation from "whats Bryan up to" channel who Just did this front tire deal on their video. I have not tried dyna beads myself, haven't changed the tires yet on the 98 GL yet though so , might be they are in there already from the dude who sold me the bike a while back. what rear Tire model do YOU think works best for this if you were putting it on a reg 2 wheel 98 Gl1500? I'm no lightweight by the way - 6' 2" 300 pounds of me and if I got a passenger just depends on that lady LOL. the bikes never lighter than me and it though. 1100 pounds min relay. man that sound so bad! LOL
We have no experience with Goldwings, other than riding them a few times. Sorry we cannot be of any help. Thanks for checking.
My front tire is an MT 90 16. Everything I look at as a rear tire in that size seems to be much wider. Is this correct , or is it just my eyes?
Yes, it is a little wider, and the tread is a little deeper. But we've never seen one that did not fit inside the OEM front fender on a HD Trike.
Thanks for commenting. 👍😎👍
KP
Would you recommend doing this on a motorcycle also? Specifically a VTX1300
We do not have any experience with the VTX1300. And we do not recommend this, even on the trikes...this is just a video of what we do and why. But running a rear reversed, up front, is not something we can recommend...but it is something we do and like a lot.
Great content,👍👍👍🇦🇺
Thank you!
Darksiders do that on two wheelers. They claim better mileage too. Car tire on the back and reversed rear on the front
Yes, have seen that on quite a few Goldwings.
Can you use a Repop of the old square Goodyear Speed Slip on the front
We're running Cokers on the 48, you can see them in this video- ruclips.net/video/wzC-pQWfHFo/видео.html
Little strange getting used to them, but they grip pretty good.
Have no idea how they would handle, or how long they would last on a Trike front end.
I often womder why the front tire is rounded and not flat. I have not been able to find an answer yet.
My guess is that it will ride a bit better with rounded, AND, they can just use the same tires & fenders they use on the 2 wheelers.
my I ask what tire you are running, I also own a 19 Tri Glide and going to need a new tire soon
It is a 130/90 B16 73H Dunlop American Elite. I have also run the Michelin Commander II with good results.
Hey guys quick question what should I be running my front tire at 20-36?
36 on the OEM front tire. If it is some other tire, each one has it's spec, but they are all between 36 and 42.
Bravo complimenti grazie ciao
Sono contento che ti piaccia il video! Grazie per il tuo commento! 👍
What happened to your Avon front tire ?
It was on my '14 and I loved it. On the '19 I wanted to put another one on, but they discontinued it, replacing it with a newer version. Unfortunately a lot of folks are not having a good experience with the newer Avon. (vibration) I did not want to take a chance, so went with the American Elite Rear tire reversed.
How about the pressure is it still 249kpa like normal front tire?
We run all our tires (except the rear tires on a Trike, because they are automobile tires) at the PSI listed on the sidewall of the tire.
Do you mount the tire according to the arrows on the tire and rotor, then just reverse it when you mount it back on the trike?
The wheel should not be mounted reversed on the bike. When a rear tire is mounted on the front wheel reversed, it is the tire that is reversed on the wheel, not the wheel on the Trike.
@@DKCustomProducts Thank you.
So what tire are you using reversed on the front? Brand and model would be appreciated.
Right now I'm running a Dunlop American Elite MT90 B-16
@@DKCustomProducts That’s stock size for the trike front tire.
@@jamesmccanne331 Below are links to 3 photos of the tire I am currently running on my TG.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/image/2019_Tri_Glide/Tires/Tri%20Glide%20Rear%20Tire%20Reversed%201.jpg
www.dkcustomproducts.com/image/2019_Tri_Glide/Tires/Tri%20Glide%20Rear%20Tire%20Reversed%202.jpg
www.dkcustomproducts.com/image/2019_Tri_Glide/Tires/Tri%20Glide%20Rear%20Tire%20Reversed%203.jpg
@@jamesmccanne331MT90 and 130/90 are the same size, just different ways of expressing it. Although they do usually have a different Load rating.
@@DKCustomProducts will a tire shop mount this reverse back tire as front tire? Or will you have to do it yourself?
Since it functions like a car tire anyway, why not put an 80,000 mile car tire on it?
A lot of folks do that on various bikes and trikes. I have not found one that will fit in the Tri Glide front fender.
@@DKCustomProducts I was just curious. Two wheels is a different situation. Motorcycle tires are made to fit a motorcycle rim and function according to the stresses of leaning. Car tire beads are different, as are the sidewall construction. So, I believe "darksideing" a rear tire could be life threatening. But those functions are different on a trike
Great video any thoughts on the 180 on the front of the trike saw a few with this conversion also the fat 21 inch
Thanks! I am not sure a 180 will fit in the stock fender.
isn't this what Harley did with the Serve car?
I am not sure, but it would not surprise me.
What brand tire is that?
Dunlop American Elite
@@DKCustomProducts , what are your thoughts on brands for the rear?, same?,or no?.
Thanks for the response, and advice.
This is also called dark siding
Yep, come on over to the dark side!
I have been double dark siding harly ultras, kawaski, goldwing, street glide since 1997 .my own bike is double dark sided. You won't ever run up on the side you actually have more tire patch on the ground. CAN YOU DRIVE ON A REAR FLAT AT 65 MPH FOR 70 MILE AND REPAIR YOUR TIRE. Happen to me an my wife on the way to sturgis this year an we were pulling our trailer. I couldn't tell we had a flat till I stopped
@@popskustoms3587 Wow!
I have 12,000 miles on my trike tire and it still looks new.
Glad you're enjoying.
I put a rear tire reverse with dyna beads. But getting a slight vibration. I tried adding more beads, but didn’t seem to make much difference. What do you think it could be?
Installed wrong, or something defective about the tire. Unfortunately it does happen that tires can have a defect or be out of round when new.
I would inspect the tire carefully and see if there are any high spots or bulges. Also put it in the air and spin it to see if the tire place installed the tire correctly...centered on the wheel.
@@DKCustomProducts I put the tire on. How do you center the tire? It’s a 2019 Harley trike .
How do you tell right side from left side of the rim?
@@jamesmccanne331 The valve stem is on the right side.
@@jamesmccanne331 I do not know. We have never mounted tires on a motorcycle. I am sure there are some youtube videos on "how to".
Why not just put car tire on front like on back
Fender clearance issues...don't know of any auto tire that will fit.
How do you know what size rear tire to use on the front?
I would use the same size you are currently running, just the rear tire version of that size. On this 2019 Tri Glide I am running a MT90 B-16.
@@DKCustomProducts isn’t theMT90B the size of the stock front tire?
Any Servi-owners here?
I've never even ridden one...have seen some nice resto's
And I'm sure I'll get 20K miles out of that same tire
Yes, there are more than a few folks I know that can get that many miles out of them. 👍😎👍
Broke it. Lol
😂
What tire do you recommend for the tri glide 2022
As per the pinned comment in this video-
ATTENTION: It has been pointed out to me that this video can be interpreted that DK Custom Products is endorsing or recommending that you/anyone/someone should use a Rear Tire Reversed, when it clearly states on rear tires that they should be used for rear wheels only. Everyone should do their research, and make their own informed decision.
This video is simply showing what I have been doing on my Trikes, and why.
So, I will not make a recommendation to run a rear tire reversed, BUT, If I were to need another new front tire on my Tri Glide today, I would go with the same one in this video, It is a rear tire, a 130/90 B16 73H Dunlop American Elite. I have also run the Michelin Commander II rear tire, same size as above, and would not hesitate to run it either.