Seagull Artist Mosaic CW versus Taylor 814ce
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2021
- A sound comparison between the Taylor 814ce and the Seagull Artist Mosaic.
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I love the Seagull. Admittedly the Taylor was brighter, but not as balanced. What sold me on buying my Seagulls wasn't just the sound. I watched a video of the owner giving a tour of the factory. He knew how to do each station of the construction of the guitar. From beginning to end. Completely invested in making a beautiful and quality instrument. I was impressed by that.
I liked the Seagull as well. But to be fair, watch some videos of Taylor factory info and you will see also that Bob Taylor is really, really hands-on. He knows what each station in his American plant is doing and why.
Same. No Lie.
Bought the Seagull a year ago and love itt. Rich sound and especially love the top E string sound and texture - just supplies such a nice bass tone.
Wonderful demo. I'm thinking phosphor bronze strings and Rosewood bridge pins and the Seagull would really fly.
I would be happy with either one of these guitars. Don’t have a guitar yet. But hope to soon. Great comparison.
The Seagull seems to me to be more balanced while the Taylor is more "sparkly" and bright. Both great guitars, but the Seagull, especially for the price is an amazing guitar.
I completely agree about the value of the Seagull for its price. Thanks for sharing your impressions on how they both sound. Roger
I certainly agree...Seagull guitars are better guitars than I am a player'
Great video! I've been shopping to replace my old Yamaha, and have played many including Taylor,s and Martins, but no Seagull, as it wasn't on my list but it is now. Thank you.
Excellent comparison of two very nice guitars on opposite ends of the financial spectrum. Thanks for the video
Pretty darn close to my ears! The seagull is a pretty guitar and a great value! Nice video!
That how I see it too. Thanks for watching and posting your impressions. Roger
What an amazing video presentation. Firstly, your guitar playing was a pleasure to listen to, beautifully done. The Taylor had richer bottom end but didn't sound as even from bottom to top as the Seagull. The Seagull was brighter, the Taylor sounded warmer. There was more squeaking in your left hand changes probably because the Seagull strings were newer. This also could be why the Seagull sounded brighter. I have been playing a Seagull Performer maple flame for many years and love it. They hold tune very well. Very nice comparison. I think I'd like to own a Taylor as well some day, but I want a good one which will mean a lot of money. Great review. (just my thoughts)
The Seagull has a warmer deeper sound almost soothing and comforting. Also, the Seagull is less forgiving technique wise, seems to have more of a touch sensitive response. The Taylor
is bright and happy sounding, great for strumming and rhythm backing, not as friendly to me to fingerstyle playing. BTW, your playing is excellent, clean and very well pronounced. IMHO I
would choose the Seagull hands down. Also, because of it's wider neck it definitely lends itself very nicely to fingerstyle playing. The the price, it's a winner.
but new seagulls (like in vid) have 43.8mm neck and taylor 314ce++++ have 44.5mm
I like the tone and balance of both guitars a lot. Each has its own character and each is inspiring to listen to or play. Different flavors of very fine ice cream to my ears. Your excellent skills do justice to these fine instruments.
Cheers!
I've owned the Seagull Artist for about 8 years now, fantastic instrument!
The Seagull just speaks to me. I have many guitars (Hummingbird, Martin D-15m Streetmaster, PRS Angelus SE A40E and the Angelus SE A60E, two Ovations, Epiphone Masterbilt DRM 500C, a Takamine P3NC and a EF360SC-TT and a Seagull Entourage CW QIT Autumnburst). I play the Seagull almost exclusively!! It's my songwriting friend. My constant companion. It is well built and plays effortlessly. I love my Seagull. Been thinking about thinning out some of these guitars and adding this one. I think it's calling me...
Man I love your playing style. So peaceful. I really enjoyed both guitars, but for the price I definitely would pick up the Seagull. I have owned the 814 years ago and sold it. My son thought it was the best guitar I have ever owned and I have owned a bunch.
I love the brightness of the seagull and for price point hard to beat ! I recently bought the furch vintage 1 and love it !
the note by note definition is really something on that Taylor. Sounds really pleasing.
I own a beautiful Seagull Artist Studio guitar and think it's an amazing value. But when listening to the Taylor and then the Seagull side-by-side, the Taylor had greater volume, a brighter tone, deeper bass, and (to me) a more pleasing sound. If money were no object, I'd get the Taylor. But the Seagull is incredible--especially for one-third of the price!
I got my seagull entourage back in 2008 and 15 years later it has developed a very rich sound. My first real guitar i bought and still my favorite.
Thanks for this. I own a Seagull Artist with the Q2 system (2011) and love it. But this Taylor has way more sustain to me and seems to ring longer and "prouder" if you will. I will also admit the Seagull is less forgiving than the Taylor.
Well I remember when seagull came out, I've always liked them and they are beautiful sounding and playing. I'm from San Diego and know where the Taylor factory is located. I was in Guitar center Fayetteville AR which is near where I live now and they had a 314ce listed used and it attached itself to me almost immediately. After looking at demos and reviews I'll stay with my Taylor. ❤my Taylor good demo. Thanx Mr. Marky
Nice compare. Both of these sound very similar to me which surprised me. I own both Taylor and A&L guitars but they are very different models and dont sound alike but both great brands.
I have a seagull artist and love it ! Great sound and feel . Rich tones my favorite
I've used Seagulls since 1999, and they're the best bang for the buck. I recommend all students start here. I've played some Seagulls that sounded much better than Martins.
I had a seagull s6 for a while. I ended up trading it eventually but I did love that guitar and it was hands down superior to anything in or slightly above its price point. I also had (until my son “borrowed it”) a Taylor 110ce. As great as the seagull sounded, it was matched by how the Taylor felt. If that makes sense. Taylor’s have that consistent fantastically comfortable feel. I never buy new, so price is less a factor with me but you really can’t go wrong with either of these guitars. Whatever you can afford, get that one. I am currently looking at Taylor 414ce and Seagull Artist like this one. It’s hard to find the Seagulls in a store to try out right now though.
Stig Svanberg: In -98 I bought the Seagull Flame Maple. Looks fantastic and sounds fantastic.
The Seagull has a deeper tone which I happen to love. Both are awesome but I was really impressed with that Seagull. I have an Entourage and a Martin D28, yes, I love that lower end warmth.
I've had a Seagull S6 for years, I feel like the brand is criminally underrated. Great Video!
Same here! Fantastic guitars!
Agree 100%. Sometimes I feel the headstock alone turns off people initially so that they walk on by and do not give a fair try of the product. It is an excellently made guitar. Sounds so good for the price point.
It's worth watching videos of Mr. Godin himself explaining the physics, and every little detail of his guitars. It's great, and illuminating. He's very good at explaining things, and he loves what he does. (I think he teaches at Berklee College of Music, in Boston.) Has a passion for every aspect of his work -- the trees he grows, the machines he designs...everything. Watch his "guitar clinic" video in a guitar shop somewhere. That's great. And also a tour of a Seagull factory. Great stuff. He has infectious passion and enthusiasm for guitar design.
I've had a seagull S6 plus Spruce since 2000, 22 years now. Its amazing, gets better and better. Totally underrated brand!
I was in the studio a couple days ago putting down tracks for my new CD. (Not that anyone buys CDs anymore, but...) I was using my Seagull Performer, cedar top CW. (I have a spruce top Entourage as well-much brighter) A number of times, the engineers mentioned how great it was recording. At the end of the session, he strummed it and pulled his phone out to take a picture of the model. I've been gigging with Seagull guitars now for at least 10 years. I'm a heavy-handed player, I don't take care of them as well as I should, and they have held up great. Pretty much, every gig I play, someone comes up and asks, "What is that guitar! It sounds amazing!"
Wow,wow,and wow, that was beautiful, the Taylor guitar was fine, but the Seagull guitar was awesome, thank you so much.
Two great guitars. My taste in sound goes more toward the Seagull. It seems more rounded and balanced.
I preferred the low end of the Seagull. Initially, the extra shimmer of brightness in the Taylor seemed to make it a bit better to my ears. However, I think, over time, I would dial some of that out on the EQ, as it can wear out a listener a bit. My pick, of the two, is the Seagull. Both seem like great guitars.
I love Taylor guitars, but that Seagull is just so tonally rich and balanced. Plus Seagull has so many technological advantages over other guitars. You should check out a video with Robert Godin, the founder of Godin Guitar Co. They make Seagull guitars and he gives a nearly two hour guitar clinic where he talks about all the design innovations they've made with their guitars. Most notably, why the headstock is shaped the way it is, and their double truss rod design that allows you to tune down without encountering string buzz on the first five to seven frets like most guitars. It's a fascinating video if you're really into guitars. Liked and subbed.
Thank you sir! Cheers. Roger
Robert also said that they break in the top with vibrations that simulate years of use. I don't know if Taylor does that but Seagull/Godin know what they're doing.
Thanks for playing well and doing the comparison. Both are nice guitars, balanced and they sustain pretty well. Taylor is brighter and a little more responsive + more volume. Seagull is a little muted with less articulation. Can't comment on the playability of the Seagull but I don't think you were struggling.
I've got the S6 Classic M-450T. I think the balance is reasonable - maybe it could use more mid-range. I've got a few other Godin guitars and the S6 is my daily driver for now. For the sound, playability and price - Seagull is a really good value IMO
I'm watching these movies too see if I need a new (nicer) guitar as an addition to my Seagull S6. I also tried out very pricey Martins and Taylors at the shop and I'm getting more and more convinced that my Seagull sounds great! If I buy a new guitar it'll probably be another Seagul (an Artist Mosaic or a Maritime if sounds better than my S6)
Hello, thank you so much for the review, I was wondering, sir, since you played both, Taylor is known for skinny Necks, as a neck profile, I was wondering, I’m looking for a chunky neck, is this Seagull much bigger than a Taylor?
I have loved Seagull guitars since the 90s. Unfortunately, mine was stolen from the trunk or a locked rental car, in Los Angeles. I was heartbroken. In this comparison, I tried very hard not to inject my bias for the Seagull. I loved the sound of both guitars. Each had its own character, and the differences were ever so subtle. If making my best attempted at an unbiased purchase, I would go with the Seagull.
I love the warmer tone of the seagull, Taylor seems bright and crisp. I would definitely buy a seagull in my next purchase!
I know this video is to assess tone, but for someone like myself who is comparing this to a Taylor 214CE, how would you say the necks compare between the two? I know the Taylor is “modern” and perhaps thinner than say a Martin. Where does the Seagull fit on the spectrum? Thanks and beautiful playing!
Seagull is very nice, tonally lovely and great value.
Having said that the Taylor is more chimey, dynamic and of course aesthetically stunning
That was a great demo.
Your playing is very soothing and relaxing, great skills
The Taylor separates the notes with a clear and distinct boldness. The Seagul blends the notes with mellow warmth. Completely two different guitars for different tastes. I own a 20 year old Seagul S6.
My S-6 is 30 years old now. Hard to believe. The tone is amazing.
I once owned a 914ce. This 814ce seems to sound warmer. The Seagull however sounds great, aspecially for the price. So for the price i would buy the Seagull and if i had the money i would choose the Taylor 🧐😎
I would like to see you guys do a video on using IRs with acoustic guitar pickups. This seems to be the way to go with amplifying acoustic guitars, in particular those with piezo pickups. Is the cheap TC Electronic IR loader any good for this?
Thanks for watching our videos. I have never tried this product and really have my doubts it would suit acoustic guitars. Better off to go with a quality acoustic amp. Cheers. Roger
Did the guitars have the same strings on them? The Seagull had more finger noise, but different strings could account for that. I love my Seagull S6 but I have to say the Taylor sounded better, deeper/fuller lows and more sparkle on the highs, more volume. Worth three times more? I would need to see how they feel and play personally. Seagulls are fantastic bang for the buck, Taylors are fantastic, period. Great playing and thanks for the comparison!!
Tried the Seagull artist Peppino many years ago. It blew me away then. It’s wasn’t cheap and still isn’t, but if I get another acoustic that’ll be the one. Haven’t played the Taylor 814 so can’t compare the two
I love the Seagull too beautiful Bright Sound
Thanks for this comparison. Sound is subjective. Taylor makes some great guitars, but they are not "it" for me. I own an Artist Mosaic dreadnought as well as a Seagull 12- string. Chose them over Taylors and Martins that were twice the price. I like the Seagull sound; those warm, sweet, clean mid-range tones and the resonating but not overwhelming bass. Pure pleasure to my fingerpicking ears.
I'm a Seagull owner, and although i think the Taylor also sounds great, Seagull is the better guitar and MUCH better value. Thanks for the comparison!
I like the definition and punch coming from the Taylor. Seagull sounds amazing as well, but a little buzzy. Overall though they do sound almost exactly the same.
I had an artist cw but had to sell it. It was sounding better Everytime I played it and made well except for the tuner buttons. I personally don't like small tuner buttons. I think I am going to get a Artist peppino.
Seagull... everytime, nicer sound.. beautifully made and a more realistic price for us mere occasional highers. Our audience generally wouldn't notice the differences us players do.
After listening to both, the Seagull sounds much better. The tone is great
Taylor is more balanced IMO. the seagull had quite a bit of buzz. But, dollar for dollar, the SG wins. Great playing!!
I bought an S6 CW Artist Series in Montana in 1998 - I fell in love from day one and will never sell it. You can taste the sound and literally everyone who plays it doesn't want to give it back to me. LOL I HIGHLY recommend. Seagull guitars are the best guitar for the money. No question. Easy to play. I still dream of being able to afford a very pricey Taylor or Martin one day... but won't give up my Seagull. My S6 Artist Series has the LRBaggs pickup and sounds amazing. Highly recommend.
could i pls ask folks' opinions? A friend has an Artist Mosaic in fantstic condition condition and has asked me to sell on her behalf. What would you value it at please? Thank you
With no consideration to cost I would choose the Taylor. It seems to have that delicious little shimmer n the sustain that you hear in higher end Martin Guitars. That said, the Seagull is a fine-sounding guitar. Both are way better than anything I own.
The sound quality from your demos sounds noticeably better than other stores' demos of similar guitars. Are you using any post-processing like reverb, compression, etc. or is it just the playing? I have owned two Godin-built guitars (Seagull, Norman and Art & Lutherie) and nothing I have ever come across (in the low price range) can compete on sound/quality. Both however needed a good setup to get the string height right. That's not to say I would not opt for the Taylor 814 if the prices were much, much closer.
It should just be the playing. Maybe I was just really on my game that day! Thanks for listening with attention. Cheers. Roger
Considering the huge price difference, it's surprising that the Taylor, a high-end guitar, didn't crush the Godin in this comparison. Just for that, the Godin deserves to win the match!
it's a seagull...
LMAO
@@laurapiovan Yes, but Seagull guitars are made by Godin, that's why he says "the Godin".
The Taylor has a little more of an "expensive" sound, but the Seagull is more balanced and the reviewer seems immediately more comfortable on the seagull, maybe because it's not going to make "bad" noises haha. I bet the seagull plays better. I tried the CH version and it played like a dream which is why I'm watching this
Anyone know the songs he is playing? I'd to learn them
Taylor’s treble heavy, and seagull is mid heavy, slightly more balanced tonally. At least to my ears. I like seagull more, it’s unique. Both lovely, thanks for the video
Agreed. To me ,Taylor is many steps behind tonally. I love Taylor build quality and everything else but if you need to go all the way to five grand for real tone it's just not worth it. Seagulls are amazing.
seagull sounds great but huge difference in quality vs Taylor. Taylor sounds like a 3K guitar. great review and when you play the two its night and day difference. which when you play professionally is a big deal..... however, personal preference is what its all about. actual quality is in the price tag in most cases and in this one its a def game changer
I love Seagull's, own one. But in this video, I do think the Taylor sounded better. I will say, part of me maturing as a guitar player is not being overly concerned about what's written on the headstock but what your ear tells you.
You have a wonderful touch on a guitar, Sir. The Seagull is as good as the Taylor IMHO. The SG to my ears has a warmer tone.
Hey Roger, Nothin’ “crazy” about getting comparable tone, saving a couple grand AND getting an Anthem in the process!
Your first comment was why? Yes, why, they are not the same shape. Both sound great. I prefer the Seagull but again, its not a reasonable comparison. As for all other Godin guitars, can any one match their tone on a dollar for dollar basis. I have yet to fine one.
Seagull was warm toned and balanced. the Taylor had more punch and not near as balanced giving it a tinny sound. I would say the
Seagull would be my choice.
I prefer the Seagull. It's got a warmer and more mellow sound. I always feel the Taylor's are too bright for my liking. Plus the price difference is substantial and the quality difference doesn't seem that much between the Seagull and the Taylor. What about the build quality of the Seagull Vs. the Taylor and the fretboards? Which is easier to play according to you?
It's settled. I'm getting the artist. It's probably the best guitar in that price range.
Have you tried it? I would love to buy one as well
@@Professional.Bro.777 yeah i got the artist mosaic concert hall in Bourbon burst. It sounds amazing. Plays great. Definitely worth the money
@@etherealessence ordered it today aswell :) It was really hard decision between Maritiv SWS CH CW / Artist Mosaic CW HG / Artist Mosaic CH CW BB.
I really would like to have normal Artist Mosaic, but its Dreadnought.... And I wanted to go away from this body shape. Sadly, that Artist Mosaic is not Grand Auditorium. There are only 2 shapes: Dreadnouth and Concert Hall (aka 000/OM)
@@Therapyxx having owned it for years, I can safely say, you won't be disappointed. Enjoy :)
@@etherealessence did you sell it? :(
I bought it without touching before... The shop is just to far away, they told me, if it wont be fine, then just send it back within 30 days. So I will play it few days, and then will go and test Taylor 114ce/214ce again to do final decision :D
Hey Brickhouse and readers, could you tell me a bit more about Seagull artist mosaic in comparison with other Taylors?
For which kind of music it fits best and how is the playability compared to Taylor 114ce-414ce ? I play Guitar for 2 months and looking for a new guitar for around 1000 euro +- So it's important how easy to handle with this guitar for beginner :)
So far are Seagull Maritim/Artist and Taylor 114ce/214ce (new), 314ce/414ce used - under my eyes. So far loved 414ce best, but only based on YT (814 is nogo, its to expensive)... I Will go to the shop this weekend, but they dont have seagulls at all. Seagull I will be able to buy only online, or need to drive 500km with a Bike.... :D
P.S. I dont like country, blues and Jazz at all. Rock / Epic / game & film themes are more preferable (Overall focus on balads fingerpicking, than on rock)
Both brands, if well set up will be comfortable to play and learn on. My advice is to buy something you can try out and have a short return option if possible. All the best. Roger
The Taylor sounded amazing. If money wasn't an issue or if I was playing professionally I would definitely go with that particular Taylor. The seagull is fine and sounded good but that particular seagull does not sound as good as that particular Taylor. I would suggest listening with earphones.
I wish you have your impressions as to how they felt different. Good video though. Thanks
Seagull all the way. Heck, I like the Art & Lutherie better than Taylors. For those who don't know, A&L are basically the same guitars as Seagulls. Wahi' Valleys
Talyor had a bit more volume than the Seagull, and the attack cut through on the Taylor better if thats your playing style, but they both sound amazing. If they cost the same I'd pick the Taylor, but I probably woudn't pay more than $100 for the Taylor its a hair better sound but not enough to pick it if it costs alot more.
Es cuestión de preferencia pero seagull suena balanceada para flexible y se escucha fácil regimento , taylor se escucha de una forma aunque bonita , como que secunde lo fácil que es manejarla . Uso seagull.
I'd take the seagull any day of the week.
those in the know will buy a seagull
Hi,
What mics are you using and interface ?
Great sound , thanks
The mics are a matched pair of MikTeks. I am using a Roland Rubik's 22 interface straight into my I-Phone. No effects. Thanks!
@@BrickhouseGuitarsKitchener thank you 🙏
Own a three thousand dollar Taylor and a nine hundred dollar seagull as well as a Pretty pricy martin and if at any time I find myself playing or writing with my seagull...WHICH I DO BOTH OFTEN...of all the things that go through my mind while doing either regret that I don't have my Taylor or Martin in my hands has NEVER been one of those things...my Taylor is of course a fine instrument no question...but it's my third attempt to own one and of the three the one I own now is the only one I've ever come close to finding lives up to the brands hype...each of the Taylor's I have owned have been from different price points along the brands tier and I have to say as whole in my experience Taylor's are loud they project amazingly their sustain is otherworldly...but the clarity ...the individual tonal separation on them all is just not what a company that has ten thousand dollar guitars in it's standard product line should produce...strumming a Taylor creates a loud crisp present yet blurry almost muddy sound ...the separation of tones,undertones and overtones of the actual notes played quite frankly is beyond disappointing for this brands status in the market...newer martins are equally lacking in this area both guitars will only will only truly shine when you are playing with a lot of picking and not much strumming...my seagull on the other hand...has all the good things and mostly on the same level of good as my Taylor but also rewards each strum with the most brilliant blending of tones that is never muddy and gives you beautiful tonal separation so that each note is present and in it's role within the theoretical construct of the chord strummed the chords come through as one perfectly blended tonal event and it's an amazing sounding guitar honestly I have to admit some of this is anecdotal and my personal experience with these guitars is also shaped my my playing style which is a hybrid blend of picking and strumming and the seagull is the one that best fit that
I'm a long time seagull player, but 1. Resale value on the Taylor is better 2. Taylor has that signature sparkle that makes the seagull dull in comparison.
Those Canadians are on to something. Seagull's are solid. Lotta guitar for the dollar.
Québécois :)
To me the Taylor is the better guitar by a fair margin. It’s brighter and has a lot less buzz particularly on the E and B string. The seagull isn’t a bad guitar by any means, but the Taylor, at least for me, is the obvious victor here
Seagul sounds great ,,,,,
Seagull seemed to be more mid-forward and slightly less complex- seems that it would really cut through.
Seagull had tusq I s changed to bone. As with almost all guitars. Seagull will need a setup for your style or prefer but that's with all guitars almost
the seagull sounds decent, but unfortunately it just doesn't have the sparkle and shimmer of the taylor. It is very mellow and pleasant however.
The “personality” on Seagull is noticeable. I own Seagull S6 slim and Taylor 314ce so have great perspective - I choose Seagull. A great test for me is playing intro to “And You and I” by Yes. I let notes resonate until totally diffused. The interaction of notes in “clear” space speaks to guitars true nature.
Thanks for your insights. All the best. Roger
Taylor guitars are precise but like a sterile office. I like the engineering of the neck of Taylor guitars for longevity but feel as though sound is not as warm and lacks some overall character at times. Warmth, low end the Seagull has and the reputation of the neck strength at the connection to the body by Godin is arguably the best with respect to long-term dependability.
Taylor sounds a little louder and more open, but both are similar.
Taylor treble just wears on me in a bad way. Why I sold my Taylor and bought a cedar top Takemine. The Seagull wins for me.
First frequency to cut on the Taylor is "G 392 hrtz", right there it would sound much better!...then C# around 2,000 hrtz!...then "D# 587 hrtz"!...voilà!...you're now getting closer to the Seagull!...
The mids are more in your face with the Seagull. Both are very nice. Taylor is better.
1:05 vs 3:21
1:05 Taylor
3:23 Seagull
Law of diminishing returns. When you need to spent huge money once you reach a certain point to gain anything further. In this case I don't think the extra $$$ for the Taylor is worth it compared to the Seagull.
The Seagull seems a bit "thinner"
Seagull sounds way better than the Taylor. The Seagull is a lot warmer sounding. Excellent sounding guitar
Seagull is much warmer and fuller. The Taylor has good midrange and the Taylor looks really fancy. I think the Godin Metropolis LTD is actually better than both.
Not an accurate comparison. The guy should have been using the Taylor 810CE (the dreadnaught) instead of the 814CE (the Grand Auditorium) since the Seagull was a dreadnaught.
Seagull all the way!
Taylors are really nice, but they just don’t sound as much like guitars as Seagulls and Martins
If money is no object, no one would do much comparing of guitars of such divergent price points. But for the rest of us, the Taylor in this video is not sonically worth the money compared to the Seagull. Having said this, I bought a Seagull Maritime SWS because it was less than the Artist, but only in money - it sounded close enough to make it an easy choice.
did you try both Maritime sws and artist? I have a choice between them both now aswell. Maritime 1100 euro, Artist 1400 Euro. Would you say that 300 euro worth it for fingerstyle guitar? ^^
p.s. I wrote detailer comment as a question here. if you could answer - would be great :D
Nice recording. Very close tonality. So close, that it would boil down to personal taste.