Thanks, Ignocia. Just about to ding 90 on my lock playing destro and this is very helpful. I always recommend going very very slow, and being exceedingly clear on the rotation for those (like me) who really come to the spec with very little knowledge. Thanks again.
Another cool thing with the soulswap trick I found with big huddled masses, if you do a Soulburn Seed of Corruption before soulswapping and before it detonates, you end up having massive aoe detonations every second on everything you soulswap to as well as the buffed dots.
Sweet bro thanks. I am no newb when it come to affliction I hadn't played him in a long while but I know I can do this lol. Just wanted to see if it was still a viable spec before wasting my time. Now just got to get this gear thing goin lol. Thanks for info cheers keep doing your thing. Would live to see you show some fight or encounters and slow them down and explain what your doing and why so we get some live in the action tutorials :) just an idea.
From what I can tell it's your haste. You really want to reach the 9778 haste break point in affliction. Affliction is what I've played for about 4 years now and I've noticed since this expansion that haste break point is super important. At 533 ilvl you should be able to hit it without an issue unless you're rocking a lot of gear that is lacking in haste. I would go destro until you collect enough haste gear to easily reach the 9778 with some reforging then go back to affliction. Hope I helped.
Its a good question :) though sadly it's a dps decrease, though it increases your pets burst damage so if you want to burst really high then yes its an increase.
Good question :) I actualy forgot to mention this in the video - DoT's snapshotting works like this: When your character gets a damage increasing BUFF your dot's will snapshot that damage increase, tho if your character receives a DEBUFF the dot's will dynamicly update, the same counts for enemies.. Haunt and Curse of the Elements both dynamicly updates with dot's :)
Seed of Corruption is very good for long lasting aoe situations which this tier doesnt allow for at all, so personaly i dont use SoC at all nowadays. Using doomguard depends on the fight, i tend to use mine during heroism no matter when its popped. Life tap when you are oom, the 50% mana life taps is a mechanic only for demo. Mannoroths fury is kinda useless for affli.. Archimondes vengeance is best at all times now considering how week our fillers are (as stated in the video)
I see you are using Elvui. How do you display character name, title, guild name? Enabling it in WoW Interface settings doesn't work. Good guide. Makes me want to play my warlock again.
You could try the 6637 haste breakpoint till your gear levels get some stronger. just get as much haste as you can after reaching one of the thresholds :)
The thing is - soul swapping from another target does not work as if you reaplied the dots, it keeps the powers just like the soul swap bug that was going on in ToT :)
What is the name of the addon you are using for Malefic Grasp that shows you when to clip your channels. I can't quite make out what you say in the video. Thanks.
when do i use seed of corruption, should i soulburn it and when? do i cast doomguard and when?(with demo it's not worth the GCD unless BL or -20% hp.) do i cast optical power on CD with observer? rain of fire viable? when? life tap under 50% mana? if all my dot's will be better if i refresh, is it worth the soulburn -> soulswap? i heard that mannoroth's fury is better than archimonde's if there's more than 1 target as demo, this true for affli too? or is it just better to soulswap?
I do got a question if I use the Imp as my dps pet would Glyph of Demon Training be good or is that a dps loss? very very new to lock so this might be a dumb question
Hi Should go for the softhaste cap at 9778 ( having a bit of a problem getting the 9778) and then go with mastery or should I just stack mastery and forget about haste?
Is Affliction very gear dependent? I have just started my lock, and my ilvl is pretty low, but I love Aff, but Demo some how seems to be pulling more DPS...
Hello there! At what ilvl would you say affliction gets better than the other specs? I understand the mechanics of the spec, but I'm not putting out enough dps with it to respec yet.
i can easily reach the 13 737 haste break point, am I aiming to reach that unbuffed? unbuffed my mastery is roughly 70%%, should I aim to get that closer to 80%% and sacrifice some haste ? every test I do with more haste comes out on top
As ive said millions of times. the haste breakpoints are irrelevant for affliction your passive called pandemic erases the major dps increases haste break points usualy gave. the 13737 haste breakpoint is a dps loss if u sacrifice any mastery for it.
I'm sitting at a 533 ilvl right now and for whatever reason, I simply can't put out the numbers like I should with Affliction. I've followed the guides, watched videos like this, and geared properly. The only thing I can think of is that my haste is a little low so I've been re-geming enchanting to get it up (I think I'm at 7950 right now). I noticed the small buff to incinerate today and went destro, and saw a huge gain in dps. What gives?
It seems realy strong but I suck so hard with this :( i dont play WoW alot and btw patch 5.4 is Pandaria or? becouse i play in Wotlk aff warlock and as i said i suck
Waaaaat?! i love the gateway buff because it's awesome to lose all your threat for 1 minute? i dont understand where ppl get the information saying that it does no longer reduce threat... What blizzard have changed regarding soloing: They buffed the portal extremely making it much easier to drop threat. they nerfed soul leech so that it is not even viable anymore. they nerfed soul link so it is not even viable anymore. Voidwalkers are bugged currently, they dont regen threat after they die.
So I'm gettin into lock again wanna do aff is it still good. Everywhere says its weakest of the three but destro is so simple and not tryin to play another Mage :P been playin aff practicing. Gonna try some of what u said out thnx good if!
Okay let me explain the current state of locks :D Destruction is the easiest way to success but it is in the long run the worst performing spec of the 3, not by a lot tho so if you lack skills(and i mean big skills) go destro. Affliction is the best of the 3 specs but it requires alot of skill, you need to know exactly how to manage your dots in every situation. affliction scales incredibly with gear so dont try it without good gear. Demonology is the second best of the 3 specs, but by far the hardest. you need exceptional skills that only very few in the world has to do good dps as demo. if you play demo as an above average player you will see very low numbers.
soulburn make soulswap apply dots without you having to have any up first, thereby if you cast soulburn and then soulswap you get 1 or each dot on the target XD
i have a question i really like affliction but i do like no dmg with it i dont have the legandery meta gem or cape yet maybe that that does its a little bit lower but i barly get 100k single target on a dummy
Hello i watched ure videos like 20 times i dont know what addon u used for affliction lock ( because im done with all demo all are destruction ) sry for the bad english
This is not true mate :) when you inhale dots from your target it takes a picture of the duration the 3 dots had the moment you pressed soul swap, when you then exhale the dots to another target it has the duration of the dots that was taken a picture of on the current target, this effect will always occour unless the target you exhale dots at has longer duration dots than the target you inhaled your soul swap.
I have a ilvl 524 lock, it doesn't matter wether I am using Affliction or Destruction, my DPS is very low, I guess I am around 80-90k consistently. I have tried all sorts of things to fix this, but have not been successful at all. no matter what I switch around, it's always the same damage output. I am lost and could use a little help. My toon name is Crankylock on Zul'jin
im geting no dmg at all, every time i try one of the guide refore every thingk Aff is always behind dest and demo, keep runing out of them SS.. dont get it
Afflic is probably the top dps in the game right now according to raidbots and not far behind is destro and wayyy far behind is demo. If you cant make this work then I dont know what to say .
Monster Steve I personaly wouldnt look at raid bots as you cant see parses from only top 10 players. both blood legions warlocks are demo and outperforms any destro in the world. for top 10 players its affli > demo > destro really :)
i really do think this have to be a gear thing. couse single target aff = keep all dots up at all time channel mal, adn woula, its like even with every thing refoged into aff i still do more dmg in demo and destro ^^ but yea. maybe i just suck ^^
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Thanks, Ignocia. Just about to ding 90 on my lock playing destro and this is very helpful. I always recommend going very very slow, and being exceedingly clear on the rotation for those (like me) who really come to the spec with very little knowledge. Thanks again.
Another cool thing with the soulswap trick I found with big huddled masses, if you do a Soulburn Seed of Corruption before soulswapping and before it detonates, you end up having massive aoe detonations every second on everything you soulswap to as well as the buffed dots.
SUPER great video! I am looking to make a lock to play in Warlords of Draenor. The addons you mentioned seem great too! Cant wait to get started! :)
Thanks mate ^^ And good luck with your Warlock in WoD!!! :D
Dude this guide is sickeningly good :) great job bud
Subbed. Best guide on the internet :)
rly rly rly nice you make the best Guides for Warlock ever :*
Sweet bro thanks. I am no newb when it come to affliction I hadn't played him in a long while but I know I can do this lol. Just wanted to see if it was still a viable spec before wasting my time. Now just got to get this gear thing goin lol. Thanks for info cheers keep doing your thing. Would live to see you show some fight or encounters and slow them down and explain what your doing and why so we get some live in the action tutorials :) just an idea.
Thanks for the idea :) ill take that in consideration
From what I can tell it's your haste. You really want to reach the 9778 haste break point in affliction. Affliction is what I've played for about 4 years now and I've noticed since this expansion that haste break point is super important. At 533 ilvl you should be able to hit it without an issue unless you're rocking a lot of gear that is lacking in haste. I would go destro until you collect enough haste gear to easily reach the 9778 with some reforging then go back to affliction. Hope I helped.
man its rly best guide ever
Its a good question :) though sadly it's a dps decrease, though it increases your pets burst damage so if you want to burst really high then yes its an increase.
Very nice guide. Thanks very much
Please tell me which profession should I take?
Good question :) I actualy forgot to mention this in the video - DoT's snapshotting works like this: When your character gets a damage increasing BUFF your dot's will snapshot that damage increase, tho if your character receives a DEBUFF the dot's will dynamicly update, the same counts for enemies.. Haunt and Curse of the Elements both dynamicly updates with dot's :)
congratulations on a very informative comment
Yes it is a weakaura. Do like this -
Make a weakauras
Go to trigger
Make it a "status"
then "Action Usable"
scroll down abit and write soul swap.
Seed of Corruption is very good for long lasting aoe situations which this tier doesnt allow for at all, so personaly i dont use SoC at all nowadays. Using doomguard depends on the fight, i tend to use mine during heroism no matter when its popped. Life tap when you are oom, the 50% mana life taps is a mechanic only for demo. Mannoroths fury is kinda useless for affli.. Archimondes vengeance is best at all times now considering how week our fillers are (as stated in the video)
Wow love the intro :)
Best Intro
I see you are using Elvui. How do you display character name, title, guild name? Enabling it in WoW Interface settings doesn't work. Good guide. Makes me want to play my warlock again.
You could try the 6637 haste breakpoint till your gear levels get some stronger. just get as much haste as you can after reaching one of the thresholds :)
Nice vid, love your intro :O
The thing is - soul swapping from another target does not work as if you reaplied the dots, it keeps the powers just like the soul swap bug that was going on in ToT :)
Omg... nice, nice))))
What's the name of the add on again that helps you with clipping? by the way just started playing affliction your guide been tremendous help
Could you make a vid with your addons? that would help me very much (:
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT ADDON YOU USE FOR THE SPELL TIME!!
Well that doesn't really matter considering DoT's snapshots not only intellect but also crit, haste and mastery :)
Haha thanks :D
Watch this guide and listen carefuly and you should be good to go :D
ok :) but have u got now any recommend for trinkets?
and whats with Unerring Vision of Lei Shen?
What is the name of the addon you are using for Malefic Grasp that shows you when to clip your channels. I can't quite make out what you say in the video. Thanks.
This guide was created the first week of SoO.
it's an addon called "Affdots", get it from curse
when do i use seed of corruption, should i soulburn it and when?
do i cast doomguard and when?(with demo it's not worth the GCD unless BL or -20% hp.)
do i cast optical power on CD with observer?
rain of fire viable? when?
life tap under 50% mana?
if all my dot's will be better if i refresh, is it worth the soulburn -> soulswap?
i heard that mannoroth's fury is better than archimonde's if there's more than 1 target as demo, this true for affli too? or is it just better to soulswap?
I do got a question if I use the Imp as my dps pet would Glyph of Demon Training be good or is that a dps loss? very very new to lock so this might be a dumb question
how did you get those tyriall wings :D
was that from the shop!
awesome stuff
Hi
Should go for the softhaste cap at 9778 ( having a bit of a problem getting the 9778) and then go with mastery or should I just stack mastery and forget about haste?
Is Affliction very gear dependent? I have just started my lock, and my ilvl is pretty low, but I love Aff, but Demo some how seems to be pulling more DPS...
Yes. If you are less than 540 don't even try.
Hello there! At what ilvl would you say affliction gets better than the other specs? I understand the mechanics of the spec, but I'm not putting out enough dps with it to respec yet.
Nice intro man.
ahh yeh thats true, tho i currently i dont have that opportunity so yeah :P
How are you feeling about the change to gateway now that it no longer reduces your threat? Do you still think you can solo bosses?
can you up date you about section with all your addons that you use and your ui its really clean and id like to try it out
As sonn as i got time ill make a video regarding what addons i use :)
nu mangler du bare en for demo ;P (jeg ved ikke helt hvad jeg skal med demo atm så hvis du har nogle tips ville det være fedt XD)
No haha :D Those wings are from my Legendary cloak ^^
still confused on Haunt. if you cast it after you cast Dots will it still affect them or do you need to recast the dots again like if it was a proc ?
Learning affliction now that they nerfed demonology into the ground. Affliction still got nerfed, but not as bad as demo.
i can easily reach the 13 737 haste break point, am I aiming to reach that unbuffed? unbuffed my mastery is roughly 70%%, should I aim to get that closer to 80%% and sacrifice some haste ? every test I do with more haste comes out on top
As ive said millions of times. the haste breakpoints are irrelevant for affliction your passive called pandemic erases the major dps increases haste break points usualy gave. the 13737 haste breakpoint is a dps loss if u sacrifice any mastery for it.
I'm sitting at a 533 ilvl right now and for whatever reason, I simply can't put out the numbers like I should with Affliction. I've followed the guides, watched videos like this, and geared properly. The only thing I can think of is that my haste is a little low so I've been re-geming enchanting to get it up (I think I'm at 7950 right now). I noticed the small buff to incinerate today and went destro, and saw a huge gain in dps. What gives?
What do you use for ad dons and do you have the strings for it.
It seems realy strong but I suck so hard with this :( i dont play WoW alot and btw patch 5.4 is Pandaria or? becouse i play in Wotlk aff warlock and as i said i suck
could you link your WA string for your soul swap plz?
big fan keep making vids dude! - Porchmunkey - Ravencrest
Waaaaat?! i love the gateway buff because it's awesome to lose all your threat for 1 minute? i dont understand where ppl get the information saying that it does no longer reduce threat... What blizzard have changed regarding soloing:
They buffed the portal extremely making it much easier to drop threat.
they nerfed soul leech so that it is not even viable anymore.
they nerfed soul link so it is not even viable anymore.
Voidwalkers are bugged currently, they dont regen threat after they die.
What addon allows you to move the soulshard bar like that? :)
So I'm gettin into lock again wanna do aff is it still good. Everywhere says its weakest of the three but destro is so simple and not tryin to play another Mage :P been playin aff practicing. Gonna try some of what u said out thnx good if!
Okay let me explain the current state of locks :D
Destruction is the easiest way to success but it is in the long run the worst performing spec of the 3, not by a lot tho so if you lack skills(and i mean big skills) go destro.
Affliction is the best of the 3 specs but it requires alot of skill, you need to know exactly how to manage your dots in every situation. affliction scales incredibly with gear so dont try it without good gear.
Demonology is the second best of the 3 specs, but by far the hardest. you need exceptional skills that only very few in the world has to do good dps as demo. if you play demo as an above average player you will see very low numbers.
What is the name of the addon that shows the enlarged icons above the cast bar?
whats that addon ur using above quartz or w/e the one counting the dots down in the big squares what is that addon??????
nvm found dunno if its the same addon but raven is pretty cool and this is a guide to set it up wow.curseforge.com/addons/raven/
I think my prob with affli is that I don't have intell trinkets so I can recast my dots when its active
soulburn make soulswap apply dots without you having to have any up first, thereby if you cast soulburn and then soulswap you get 1 or each dot on the target XD
Can we know what's the Addon used to be able to see dots over the health bar on multiple target ? Pls :)
Yes. the addon is called Tidy Plates
I followed what you were saying but dont understand any of it =p. Respeced to affi to try it out
what addon are you useing for malefic grasp?
i have a question i really like affliction but i do like no dmg with it i dont have the legandery meta gem or cape yet maybe that that does its a little bit lower but i barly get 100k single target on a dummy
why u don't use trinket from Lie shen or tirnket from Soo :
Black Blood of Y'Shaarj
Kardris' Toxic Totem.
Purified Bindings of Immerseus
question.. How did you set up Soul Swap for Weak Auras?... It is Weak Auras right?
Hello i watched ure videos like 20 times i dont know what addon u used for affliction lock ( because im done with all demo all are destruction ) sry for the bad english
Im not exactly sure what you are asking me here :S
Can you say how you can get the dots so fast up? And with addons are you usefull for afflection warlock?
Nice vids, helping alot.... Is that an addon displaying your soul shards count? if so does anyone know the name of it....
NugComboBar
Can you please tell me what is the name of the addons that you use to see dots? Thx
It's called NugComboBar :)
can you tell me what's your addon for combat text, please?
I suck at affli but I want to get better :D
"Hold da kæft du spiller stadig wow :o"
Haha hvis du mener ham der whisperede mig på real-id - Gik i klasse med ham da jeg tog min uddannelse :P
can you buff your dots up when you got haunt on the target
This is not true mate :) when you inhale dots from your target it takes a picture of the duration the 3 dots had the moment you pressed soul swap, when you then exhale the dots to another target it has the duration of the dots that was taken a picture of on the current target, this effect will always occour unless the target you exhale dots at has longer duration dots than the target you inhaled your soul swap.
so to start thise spec u shoud be around item level ...?????
Quartz :)
any haste cap's for lower than the 9k one worth getting?
I can barely push 60k with 536 ilvl....
I have a ilvl 524 lock, it doesn't matter wether I am using Affliction or Destruction, my DPS is very low, I guess I am around 80-90k consistently. I have tried all sorts of things to fix this, but have not been successful at all. no matter what I switch around, it's always the same damage output. I am lost and could use a little help. My toon name is Crankylock on Zul'jin
You think he should play this specialization at what ilvl ?
+ UVLS isnt easy to get for some people
+ its shit in destro, 4 seconds itsnt good enough to utilise anything with + it procs rarely :)
I just got to 544 on my destro lock only spec I've been playing and I want to go afflic but scared of not bring able to get it :(
what is a good haste breakpoint for item level 508?
What is the addon that shows the DoT icons with their time remaining?
probably tell me when
can u tell me what addons' are you use?
Hi, how addons used you?
hej champ hva siger du addon hedder der giver break point i cast bar fik jeg ikk fat i i videoen
how you cast corruption , agony and unstable affliction suddenly?
If you cast Soulburn and Soul Swap together, it applies all 3 instantly.
Can you post your weak aura strings?
Are there any Soul swap macros I should be aware of?
#showtooltip Soulburn
/cast Soulburn
/cast Soul Swap
What addons do you use?
im geting no dmg at all, every time i try one of the guide refore every thingk Aff is always behind dest and demo, keep runing out of them SS.. dont get it
Thats because you dont follow the guide closely d:
Afflic is probably the top dps in the game right now according to raidbots and not far behind is destro and wayyy far behind is demo. If you cant make this work then I dont know what to say .
Monster Steve I personaly wouldnt look at raid bots as you cant see parses from only top 10 players. both blood legions warlocks are demo and outperforms any destro in the world. for top 10 players its affli > demo > destro really :)
Ignociatv Well.... FINE!!! you win. :D Great video tho, makes me wanna roll afflic!
i really do think this have to be a gear thing. couse single target aff = keep all dots up at all time channel mal, adn woula, its like even with every thing refoged into aff i still do more dmg in demo and destro ^^ but yea. maybe i just suck ^^
Can you post that WA
I always use the imp.
Uses observer in vid
:_:
I can't seem to master affli D:
what do you have behind you it look like wings????
dude its the legendary cloak...
how can i have it?
remi poirier take the quest, it will take atleast 10+ weeks to get it
i think is affdots
Danskere har så ringe engelsk accent :P
this is Like for intro