The Rise and Fall of MARVEL 2099 - What Went Wrong?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
  • In this video, Owen explains the history of Marvel's 2099 imprint, the original plans for this futuristic reimagining of the company's superheroes and what caused its untimely demise.
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  • @OwenLikesComics
    @OwenLikesComics  2 года назад +35

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    • @Gemnist98
      @Gemnist98 2 года назад +2

      With its reference here, I would love it if you could do a video on the New Universe, especially given how it found new popularity when Jonathan Hickman rebooted it for his Avengers runs.

  • @thwipkid
    @thwipkid 2 года назад +511

    If Sony was smart 2099 could've been a goldmine in starting their own cinematic universe.

    • @OwenLikesComics
      @OwenLikesComics  2 года назад +234

      Yeah but why do that when you've got Morbius and El Muerto?

    • @mserinquinn
      @mserinquinn 2 года назад +23

      Imagine Jackpot 2099

    • @justinarzola5782
      @justinarzola5782 2 года назад +41

      Or a proper ultimate spiderman movie or live action noir.

    • @immersivecomics1603
      @immersivecomics1603 2 года назад +31

      Imagine a Spider Girl movie. Mayday would’ve been cool

    • @MrLachapell
      @MrLachapell 2 года назад +32

      @@OwenLikesComics
      Imagine missing the chance of witnessing the beauty of morbius, truly one of the movies ever

  • @AkiDave
    @AkiDave 2 года назад +531

    The idea of setting things in the future usually ages the worst and yet Spider-Man 2099 became timeless because of it. Truly inspiring, Great video as usual Owen!

    • @aurahoneydew9607
      @aurahoneydew9607 2 года назад +19

      actually it's the opposite gives it charm. What ages badly is the insertion of Modern Identity politics and writer hot takes. Immediately dates already extra bitter works after a week.

    • @farmer5001
      @farmer5001 2 года назад +38

      @@aurahoneydew9607 as if comics haven’t been political from the start 😂

    • @aurahoneydew9607
      @aurahoneydew9607 2 года назад +5

      @@farmer5001 Pshh that's a sorry of a defense. Was dialed to a 2 now it's full on rage and brainwashed fulled insanity.

    • @tylerdurden788
      @tylerdurden788 2 года назад +43

      @@aurahoneydew9607 captain America punched Hitler.

    • @jvksvtton7989
      @jvksvtton7989 2 года назад +28

      @@aurahoneydew9607 frank miller’s work has some very explicit politics

  • @owensreviews625
    @owensreviews625 2 года назад +242

    Aside from Spider-Man 2099, it’s a shame that the 2099 didn’t become a lasting success.

    • @sird2333
      @sird2333 2 года назад +8

      Always loved Punisher and Ghost Rider 2099

    • @maxleon61702
      @maxleon61702 Год назад

      Yep.

    • @shreyaskumarrath721
      @shreyaskumarrath721 Год назад

      They should try another run. I think 2099 universe failed due to the lack of new villains and characters to capitalise on. Most were rehashed futuristic versions of previous villains or characters. I want the 2099 universe to return and have a re-run with better world building

    • @nightmarefanatic1819
      @nightmarefanatic1819 2 месяца назад

      ​@@shreyaskumarrath721 I suspect they actually might be doing this. At the end of issue 5 of Miguel O'Hara Spider-Man 2099, there was a page that just had "Summer 2024 2099."

  • @Albino_Basilisk
    @Albino_Basilisk 2 года назад +359

    What do 2099, MC2, and Ultimate Marvel all have in common? They’re kick started by their Spider-Man/Girl, and only that character and title ends up being remembered in modern days

    • @notataco4203
      @notataco4203 2 года назад +22

      I’m so glad you mentioned that I love the old spider girl comics

    • @phantom1592
      @phantom1592 2 года назад +24

      I feel like Doom 2099 is well remembered too... but otherwise your point stands :P

    • @Draliseth
      @Draliseth 2 года назад +9

      Pff, whatevs. When Tony started rockin gold and black my first thought was "... Mainframe?"

    • @revoltpuppy
      @revoltpuppy 2 года назад +12

      I get your point, but they did turn The Ultimates into a bazillion-dollar movie franchise, so...

    • @Albino_Basilisk
      @Albino_Basilisk 2 года назад +18

      @@revoltpuppy well, I too get your point, but the mcu characters are in their own universe , not the 1610 ultimate universe

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 2 года назад +94

    From what I gather, Spider-Man 2099, Deadpool and Cable were the only 90s Marvel characters to escape 90s comic-isms with their appearances intact and remain relevant.

    • @1brianm7
      @1brianm7 2 года назад +5

      I haven’t read a lot of 90’s comics what do you mean by 90s comic-isms?

    • @MightyAverage
      @MightyAverage 2 года назад +12

      Scarlet Spider has done ok

    • @benwasserman8223
      @benwasserman8223 2 года назад +22

      @@1brianm7 Gritty attitudes, drawn Rob Liefeld-style, oversized guns and pockets, Gambit face masks. Those tropes.

    • @matheusvitorinomachado4642
      @matheusvitorinomachado4642 2 года назад +9

      Deadpool and Cable were the definition of 90s comic-isms. I would also say thats the appeal of the characters.

    • @benwasserman8223
      @benwasserman8223 2 года назад +5

      @@matheusvitorinomachado4642 More like their funny man-straight man schtick. You want to recall what cringe 90s comics are like, revisit Youngblood

  • @Dhampir101980
    @Dhampir101980 2 года назад +273

    Spider-Man 2099 and Doom 2099 were the best titles of the line. It’s clear that the majority of creativity and imagination went into those Books. Peter David made Miguel the exact opposite of Peter, and that’s why he worked. He was a breath of fresh air, long before there was a whole Spider “ Family “. It’s telling that Miguel is the only classic 2099 character to still be used and appear in outside media today at all.
    Ironically, the 2099 universe’s fate was a precursor to the fate of the ultimate universe: heroes just killed off unceremoniously in an event that changed the landscape of the books in a negative/ polarizing way, with only the Spider-Man character really coming out with their popularity intact; though many fans claim that their current adventures aren’t as great as what came before.
    It’ll be fun to revisit the world when the new Spider-Man 2099 exodus miniseries starts next week. It’s supposed to introduce a whole bunch of new characters. Maybe this exactly the resurgence the concept needs. Going forward, it might work best in a format similar to the Batman the white knight comics.

    • @revoltpuppy
      @revoltpuppy 2 года назад +18

      Moore's first 25 issues of X-Men 2099 is really tight. It's a great story with a building plot that culminates in a dramatic finish. It's so rare today to have any story arc last more than 6 or 12 issues at most. Long been a favorite of mine.

    • @pedrohenriquesoutogueiros1449
      @pedrohenriquesoutogueiros1449 2 года назад +5

      DOOM 2099 is my favorite, even more than spider man 2099

    • @funnyfunnyvalentine7991
      @funnyfunnyvalentine7991 2 года назад +2

      Ravage was pretty interesting too

    • @drakependragon8439
      @drakependragon8439 2 года назад +3

      Except people like Miguel because he isn't a Peter rip off character while everything about Mild Moraless is a garbage tier tokenized trash character that can't sell merchandise which is why they keep canceling his books even though Marvel gave him every free lift they could by killing off Peter and having him steal the mantle and have the only Ultimate book still selling at the time.

    • @Dhampir101980
      @Dhampir101980 2 года назад +11

      @@drakependragon8439 And yet, more people know about Miles than Miguel. Say what you want, but Miles does have a huge fanbase, even if his current book is sorely lacking.
      Miguel doesn’t have anywhere near the same level of Marketability; but that’s the fault of Marvel, not his character’s capability

  • @mridul407
    @mridul407 2 года назад +46

    Don't forget, Miguel was also the first spider-man who could lift off Thor's hammer. Something we wanted to see Peter do but rejoice nevertheless when Miguel made that Fanboy wish come true.

  • @outpostalpha
    @outpostalpha 2 года назад +130

    I feel like I know a fair bit about comics history, but Owen's videos never fail to teach me something new. It had never occurred to me that the 2099 comics were Marvel's way of trying to create a new imprint that could succeed where New Universe had failed. Super interesting stuff!

  • @jeretarvainen1522
    @jeretarvainen1522 2 года назад +68

    It's interesting how Spider-Man always seems to translate the best in these different alternate universe imprints. With 2099, Ultimate and Noir, Spider-Man is the only one with a more lasting impact.

    • @ironbaysqiureg4827
      @ironbaysqiureg4827 2 года назад +21

      Well that's because of 2 things. One spider man is their most popular character. And brand name alone can carry a book.
      And 2 unlike most other characters hes more ingrained into the universe Better.
      A kid in the early 2000, And employee To the big corporation villain Get it been powered because of sliced genetics, Kid of the 1920s Is gaining his power through A magical spider Tablet.
      Meanwhile the rest of the characters were either too radical or not radical enough put into these settings where they were good but not interesting.
      I mean in the world of noir spider men was really the only one with powers And a cool looking outfit.
      299 everyone else had to deal with the shifting status quo more so than Miguel had to.
      Same thing for the ultimate universe since everyone else got screwed over while Michael Brian bendes just turned it into his little fan fiction universe.

    • @immersivecomics1603
      @immersivecomics1603 2 года назад +9

      Well tbh they usually get better writers on the Spiderman books (usually) and let the other titles get ruined by poor creative choices and characterization. Just look at ultimate Spiderman vs the ultimates. Millar and Loeb ruined that title

    • @Gemnist98
      @Gemnist98 2 года назад +4

      Don’t forget MC2 and Spider-Girl.

    • @Albino_Basilisk
      @Albino_Basilisk 2 года назад +1

      @@ironbaysqiureg4827 probably cus they also start with Spider-Man, so all the good unique ideas were already poured into him/her (in the case of spider-girl)

    • @ironbaysqiureg4827
      @ironbaysqiureg4827 2 года назад +1

      @@Albino_Basilisk Nah not really because if you think of the noir universe he is the only one with really powers.
      Punisher and Daredevil are just the same but in 1930s
      Luke cage Wolverine in the X-Men Don't have super powers at all.
      With ironman the only one that has some of powers.
      Regardless of the quality of the story this is still kind of a same kind of gimmick that's hard to work with unlike spider man That at least did change our wept slinger into something more unique.
      I mean spider girl Miguel or hero even ultimate Peter Parker had a lot more different personalities thin personalities that his main universe counterpart that made him stick out then just X but set in zero or x in nane.

  • @cowwithrandomthoughts2503
    @cowwithrandomthoughts2503 2 года назад +42

    Marvel 2099 died because of El Muerto's godlike powers...

  • @ThatGuyWithAComment
    @ThatGuyWithAComment 2 года назад +104

    One thing I’ve always wondered is what would happen when we actually got to 2099?? Would Peter wear the 2099 costume or would they do a run with Miguel? Or would we see a full reboot of the universe?

    • @yospidey0078
      @yospidey0078 2 года назад +29

      This is something that always wanders in my mind.

    • @ricardomiles2957
      @ricardomiles2957 2 года назад +34

      If I were to take hunch I would say Peter would simply be brought "back" in some way and coexist with Miguel while taking in a new hero persona

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 года назад +42

      I think 2039 is what gets me
      Since that’s when Batman Beyond is roughly set

    • @revoltpuppy
      @revoltpuppy 2 года назад +18

      You could look at Iron Man 2020 from two years ago to see how they handled that.

    • @judeconnor-macintyre9874
      @judeconnor-macintyre9874 2 года назад +11

      I think they'll just shuffle the timeline. Bring everything forward, maybe Miguel will be like Miles just another Spider-Man or maybe they'll just get rid of Miguel.

  • @HappyBirthdayRoboto
    @HappyBirthdayRoboto 2 года назад +38

    I was a kid when the 2099 universe came out and I remember reading Spider-Man 2099 and being weirded out that I liked the new guy more than Peter Parker, also it was the first time I read anything by Peter David and he quickly became one of my favourite writers.

  • @mrheroprimes
    @mrheroprimes 2 года назад +65

    what I do find interesting is Peter David originally intended for the CEO of alchemax to be Peter Parker. An idea that he didn't get to fully explore until Spider-Man Edge of Time.
    I think the reason Marvel has pretty much quietly killed off the 2099 era is because we're only 77 years away from the actual 2099 in the real world. At the end of a previous Spider-Man Arc Peter tries to help Miguel get back to his own time, only to discover that the future he was from no longer exist.
    this was something that DC managed to avoid with Batman Beyond by simply not giving an exact year.

    • @immersivecomics1603
      @immersivecomics1603 2 года назад +16

      I feel like the best way to handle 2099 is to maybe say that after some great cataclysm the world came to near end and allowed companies like Alcamex to take over. And this is 2099 years after it. Like it reset the year in a sort of BC AD thing. That way it can always remain as a possible future but not necessarily a year we’re close to

    • @UltimatePower01
      @UltimatePower01 2 года назад +9

      What do you mean Batman Beyond managed to avoid it by no giving an exact year? When it’s clearly less than 100 given Bruce is either alive or recently passed in that setting.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 2 года назад +13

      The exact year is "when Bruce finally decides to hang up the cowl and choose a successor", which tends to be the 12th of never for the stubborn, ever-living Batgod.

    • @michaellabonte6390
      @michaellabonte6390 2 года назад +10

      @@UltimatePower01 but no set date means they can easily slide up the timeline. In comics if a year passes batman doesnt Age but its still that year. This is because he was now born a year later. It's a sliding timescale

    • @mrheroprimes
      @mrheroprimes 2 года назад

      @@UltimatePower01 in exact year is never given for when events a Batman Beyond take place, since Bruce Wayne supposed to be in his late seventies early eighties in the Batman Beyond Time period

  • @TheMonghy
    @TheMonghy 2 года назад +38

    One fun theory I always enjoyed about Ravage 2099 was the idea he was one of the children/grandchildren of an alternate version of Killraven, a character created by Roy Thomas in the 70s for a series that took place in the same universe as War of the Worlds, which was later confirmed to take place in the same universe as the original Guardians of the Galaxy. It's a pretty neat theory, if a little impossible, since 2099 takes place in a different universe.

    • @TylerBoyette
      @TylerBoyette 2 года назад +4

      I’ve always thought it was cool how that was the only one that Stan Lee created!

  • @madbug1965
    @madbug1965 Год назад +8

    The New Universe was my friend's first professional comic book assignment. He later became one of the founders of Marvel 2099. I'm glad to see you gave him honorable mention. 😊

    • @Digitalhdwmn
      @Digitalhdwmn 11 месяцев назад

      You should show your friend this vidya

  • @xander524
    @xander524 2 года назад +33

    Ghost rider 2099 was pretty good until issue 15, where i thought the art and story took a negative turn for the rest of the run, with it having a mediocre ending. Its a shame because zero made for a really unique ghost rider that was really similar to the terminator.

    • @davidmahaffey2039
      @davidmahaffey2039 2 года назад

      Yes, when Ashley Woods took over for the art, the comic took a serious nosedive

  • @AceLM92
    @AceLM92 2 года назад +38

    I love 2099 Spider-Man. I read the ongoing series they gave him from the Marvel Now era just because he was written by Peter David, I don't think anyone else is a good fit for him.

  • @bobbyj8163
    @bobbyj8163 2 года назад +19

    I would love a 2099 Cinematic Universe. I think it has a lot of big screen potential, especially Spider-Man 2099.

    • @alanguages
      @alanguages Месяц назад

      Animated series makes more sense to properly build up stories. Big screen treatment would be excessively expensive, especially if one movie flops.

  • @Yup712
    @Yup712 2 года назад +6

    I remember back in 1992 when these came out! I was around 12-years-old. To this day “Spider-Man 2099” is still one of my favorite heroes and Spider-Man suits!

  • @chrisjuckett2728
    @chrisjuckett2728 2 года назад +8

    Spider-Man 2099 is always gonna have a special place in my heart and imagination. That comic came out when I was a young teen and it always kinda felt like Miguel was the Spidey for my generation.
    I think a video game similar to insomniacs Spidrr-Man, but in the 2099 world would be so awesome. Take control of 3-5 of the heroes throughout the story and let players run around in that world via a video game would be insane.

    • @OwenLikesComics
      @OwenLikesComics  2 года назад +4

      They actually were developing a game based around the One Nation Under Doom storyline. It sounded pretty fun but Marvel's bankruptcy caused them to scrap it.

  • @bearerofbadnews1375
    @bearerofbadnews1375 2 года назад +9

    If anything the 2099 Spiderman gave us a really cool costume for the Spiderman game and edge of time.

  • @kbuttstadt
    @kbuttstadt Год назад +5

    Spidey's 2099 costume is straight-up ICONIC.
    also, cool seeing those early Humberto Ramos pencils!
    great vid! I was all in at the beginning of 2099 but lost interest quickly, so I never knew what happened story-wise. Thanks!

    • @OwenLikesComics
      @OwenLikesComics  Год назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @nightmarefanatic1819
      @nightmarefanatic1819 2 месяца назад

      His managed to be cool even to this day while just about every other design feels so dated.

  • @MrSonic43
    @MrSonic43 2 года назад +18

    I haven’t seen the video but if it’s like any of Owen’s previous works it will be another top tier video. I will be watching tomorrow when it premieres

  • @wayneeast405
    @wayneeast405 2 года назад +6

    I always wondered how the 2099 universe continued after picking up the first few issues of Miguel O'Hara's tenure. It also interested in me a whole lot about these other new interpretations of the marvel superheroes. Thank you for filling me in!

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 2 года назад +31

    The Hulk and SM were great concepts, but the rest were meh. It was a world not worth the heroes fighting for either. Cyberpunk needs heroes who can sink dystopias, not just have super people punching.

    • @justinarzola5782
      @justinarzola5782 2 года назад +6

      I'm surprised there was no iron man 2099.

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse 2 года назад

      @@justinarzola5782 Same!

    • @oscarangel2989
      @oscarangel2989 2 года назад

      @@justinarzola5782 Iron Man was pretty low tier at that time, i guess

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 2 года назад

      @@justinarzola5782 There wasn't one up until 2015, there was an Iron Man of 2020 though.

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse 2 года назад

      @@hyperion3145 IM 2020 was actually created a decade before the 2099 came out. So, maybe Marvel thought it would be redundant. The line relied too heavily on their best sellers at the time.

  • @MeltySolid
    @MeltySolid 2 года назад +74

    I would love to see the wider world of 2099 get adapted into film or TV some day. The original comics showed that there is so much potential for this side of the Marvel universe, and it would be awesome to see how it would be handled with stuff like the MCU in mind.

    • @Protosilver97
      @Protosilver97 2 года назад +7

      I hope Across the Spider-Verse launches Spider-Man 2099 to him getting something mainstream.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 2 года назад

      @@Protosilver97 the only problem with that would be that he could only have a TV show under Disney :/

    • @Protosilver97
      @Protosilver97 2 года назад

      @@-Teague- It's a Spider-Man character, so he is in hands of Sony. They decide what to do with Miguel.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 2 года назад

      @@Protosilver97 actually, that's not how it works. The character rights are a little convoluted, but basically, Sony can make Spiderman movies and merchandising for them, but Disney can make Spider-Man TV shows and merchandise them. So they would have to make a movie if they wanted to represent Spider-Man 2099 on screen, otherwise Disney would have to be the one doing it

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 2 года назад +2

      @@Protosilver97 although, I would love it if Insomniac made a 2099 videogame, which is easy from a rights perspective to see happening

  • @pious83
    @pious83 2 года назад +28

    I like to think the lasting legacy of the 2099 imprint led to the future-set "The End" line of books. Marvel at least giving some thought to the last days of each respective character.

    • @justinarzola5782
      @justinarzola5782 2 года назад +2

      Also old man Logan and ruins.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 2 года назад +4

      @@justinarzola5782 Well no, they're not really the same thing. The End was a line of books. Made to envision the last canonical story of their respective characters. Hulk: The End, for example. Arguably the best one of the series. It is safe to say there are no more Hulk stories to be told, after it's finale.
      Ruins is just a bleak What If? scenario. OML was initially a one off alternate future story. Neither were made to be canon.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 2 года назад

      @@justinarzola5782 additionally, no thought or respect was put into Old Man Logan.

  • @Gemnist98
    @Gemnist98 2 года назад +2

    2099 as a whole just SCREAMS 90s comics. I feel that if it were made now, it would have a much clearer direction and wouldn’t rely on style over substance.

  • @McDagger90
    @McDagger90 2 года назад +6

    This universe had so much potential it's too too bad. I love your channel mate, always looking forward to the stuff you put out

  • @swaynba1731
    @swaynba1731 2 года назад +14

    I've never read any 2099 comics the only exposure i have to these characters is the shattered dimensions game. Excited to watch

    • @terraventusaqua123
      @terraventusaqua123 2 года назад +2

      My only exposure was the passing cameo from Into the Spider-Verse and Anton Stark (Iron Man 2099) from the teenager show, Iron Man: Armored Adventures.

    • @ChrisSuperDude
      @ChrisSuperDude 2 года назад +3

      I'm admittedly not ashamed to admit that game was my introduction to the universe too. In fact, in my opinion it was that game and Edge of Time that really brought 2099 back to prominence.

    • @Dhampir101980
      @Dhampir101980 2 года назад +3

      The omnibus of the original 90’sSpider-Man 2099 run is going to be released on October 25th. That’s the perfect place to start

  • @benparrish672
    @benparrish672 2 года назад +12

    If you combined all the best Spidey powers into one Perfect Spider-Man Powerset; it'd b one of the most OP non-cosmic powersets

  • @matthewjongbloed6718
    @matthewjongbloed6718 2 года назад +6

    This is gonna be a banger video as always

  • @headcharge666
    @headcharge666 Год назад +1

    I’m currently binge reading most of these titles. I had them as a kid in the 90’s, but appreciate them more now. Even the not so stellar books.

  • @vaderfett3229
    @vaderfett3229 2 года назад +9

    Great Video as always, Owen. I always thought 2099 was an interesting but ultimately wasted opportunity. I still have my entire run of Spider-Man 2099 - great stuff! I always look forward to your videos - well researched and your narration is clear and concise and informative. I'd love to hear your views on all the other one shot Marvel / DC crossovers of the 1990s and also the epic Age of Apocalypse event.

  • @EVGriffinJr
    @EVGriffinJr 2 года назад +2

    When it comes to the 2099 universe of marvel, no one really remembers it except for Spider-Man. That character is still used even now and has become a legend in his own right.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 года назад +5

    marvel 2099 was such a miss opportunity because there were some good ideas in this universe mostly Spider-Man 2099 and doom 2099 and that's about it.

  • @CrisisComics
    @CrisisComics 2 года назад +4

    8:14 The concept of the Thorites was expanded MUCH further in Punisher and Ravage- it wasn't merely a cult that celebrated Thor, but a mainstream religion in the vein of Catholicism, with the Aesir like Hela becoming sainted role models (Tiana from Ravage sought strength from Hela, and Jake Gallows' brother was named after Baldur). It was actually a pretty nuanced depiction of Thor's unusual impact on the Marvel Universe... which is why I hated the Thorites' depiction in the recent 2099 One-Shots as a roving band of Viking murderhobos. Not only is it incredibly generic, but it begs the question why, in a world where human life is worth less than a business suit, they hadn't just been wiped out or rounded up for human testing by the MegaCorps.

  • @MattDraper
    @MattDraper 2 года назад +2

    The Owen Do a New Universe Video Challenge

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 года назад +6

    great job on covering marvel 2099 universe and why it failed.

  • @gregmcphersonii5477
    @gregmcphersonii5477 2 года назад +2

    I read Spider-Man, X-Men, Punisher, and Ravage 2099 as a kid for about a year and a half. After awhile I decided to pare down and dropped those titles. Thanks for the video as I wasn't aware of anything that had gone on after I dropped the titles.

    • @CrisisComics
      @CrisisComics 2 года назад +1

      Punisher and Ravage are actually pretty decent well into their lines.

  • @avollant
    @avollant 2 года назад +13

    I loved the 2099 universe and I wish that Marvel could bring it back... the same goes with the New Universe. I loved Star Brand and Justice and I'd love to see their return.

    • @revoltpuppy
      @revoltpuppy 2 года назад

      Starbrand is in the current Avengers run. (Too bad it sucks.)

    • @Gemnist98
      @Gemnist98 2 года назад +1

      @@revoltpuppy If you’re referring to the Hickman run that was almost a decade ago. Star Brand 616 has been dead for years.

    • @sird2333
      @sird2333 2 года назад

      I STILL want to know how the brand got off the New Universe world that the Living Tribunal sealed off from the 616 in the Starblast limited series.

    • @revoltpuppy
      @revoltpuppy 2 года назад

      @@Gemnist98 No, I'm referring to the current Avengers run.

  • @comicpop
    @comicpop 2 года назад +5

    Let's goooo

    • @OwenLikesComics
      @OwenLikesComics  2 года назад +1

      I had a feeling you would enjoy this video!

  • @panthergod
    @panthergod 2 года назад +2

    Doom 2099 was MAGNIFICENT.

  • @trentshimmonsiilaogreens4074
    @trentshimmonsiilaogreens4074 2 года назад +10

    I love the 2099 era especially ravage. I was bummed that they canceled it but the way he went out was pretty sweet in the art was way different from what was going on at the time. the 2099 verse had a bunch of potentially great characters especially in the X-Men

    • @stevereynolds5684
      @stevereynolds5684 2 года назад +1

      I liked him as a human. When he became a mutated lion man thing I lost interest.

  • @blakeswinney2197
    @blakeswinney2197 2 года назад +2

    I love spiderman 2099.. but I would love to see Spider-Man Noir Video

  • @NadeemShekh-uy9zn
    @NadeemShekh-uy9zn Год назад +2

    I want either a solo movie or show for Spider-Man 2099

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this I really liked it man

  • @benparrish672
    @benparrish672 2 года назад +3

    Peter Benjamin Parker is the best Spidey & Kaine is the best clone & Miles is best alt version of a Legacy character & Miguel has a dope powerset & suit

  • @Powherkrangunch
    @Powherkrangunch 2 года назад

    Very cool recap! Definitely makes me want to see more 2099 stories myself! Your content is always very entertaining!

  • @justinriley
    @justinriley 2 года назад +3

    This should be a fascinating one....

  • @MrMelson
    @MrMelson 2 года назад +1

    Owen, great video I used to love the punisher 2099 myself. Keep up the great work my friend

  • @edwardendicott3247
    @edwardendicott3247 Год назад

    Brilliant video, supremely entertaining

  • @waynedcxxvilee5008
    @waynedcxxvilee5008 2 года назад

    I enjoyed this video immensely!!

  • @Tymbus
    @Tymbus 2 года назад

    Hey! Good work! Another continuity that I knew nothing about.

  • @G11366
    @G11366 Год назад +2

    I've been saying for years that X-Men 2099 is severely underrated!

  • @seth9655
    @seth9655 2 года назад +4

    Video topic: Guy Gardner as Warrior

  • @jackrucinsky6205
    @jackrucinsky6205 2 года назад +1

    Great video.

  • @spawn_blacksmith
    @spawn_blacksmith Год назад

    Loved this video

  • @timogul
    @timogul 2 года назад +1

    At this point I was only reading X-Men stuff, and read the 2099 X-Men stuff too. X-Nation being cancelled is what led me to read DC comics for the first time.

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 2 года назад

    Great video, and very informative. Thanks for making it. I'm now more excited to be getting the Spider Man 2099 omnibus when it drops later this year.

  • @jpasan
    @jpasan 2 года назад +4

    I loved Spider-Man 2099. It was awesome

  • @powerbad696
    @powerbad696 2 года назад

    Really liked the vid Owen,good job.No wonder I don't remember this series,8 issue run ??? Some of that art was tough to look at and the F.F. uniforms were DREADFUL. LOL. I remember the PEREZ & BUSIEK run on the Avengers from 1998 tho,it was GREAT !!! Perez's art was TOP-NOTCH.Busiek's writing was on point too.

  • @TheNickcone
    @TheNickcone 2 года назад +2

    I love the look of early 2099. Especially the Rick Leonardi art on Spider man 2099. The line had its issues as it was a bit edgy but I love the cyberpunk aspects and the world. Doom 2099 made the whole thing worth it, it's amazing and X men wasn't terrible although I've read only 15 issues. I wish they had done more original characters outside of the legacy stuff. They had a great world but needed stronger heroes to leave a mark I feel. A shame none of the efforts to resist 2099 have turned out well, they just couldn't recapture the feel of the original line except for Manifest Destiny. I really like how it ties things up.

  • @Snikit
    @Snikit Год назад +2

    I loved Spider-Man and X-Men 2099 so much and was sad to see them go. They were always better stories than I expected. ✨💎✨

  • @tomthespaceknerd5396
    @tomthespaceknerd5396 2 года назад +2

    I got full runs of X-men 2009, X-Nation 2099, and 2099 World of Tomorrow. And the Manfest Destiny one shot that finishes everything off.
    I really liked the 2099 line. Sure it had it's misfires, but it was pretty enjoyable to read.

  • @benjamineharrison4999
    @benjamineharrison4999 2 года назад

    I loved all the 2099 books. You are awesome! I was reading some of my old issues and came across one of my favorites Mutant X the Havok spin off from the late 90s to 2000s and I was looking for a good video that tells the whole story cause I am missing a few issues anyway I could not find anything most of my searchs lead to the TV show that has nothing to do with the comic. I love how you tell what happened and thought when you have time I would ask you to make a video if that interests you. Either I am a fan keep doing what you are doing!

  • @Shift_Salt
    @Shift_Salt 2 года назад +3

    2099, another spark that burned bright only to fizzle out.

  • @aguywithalotofopinions412
    @aguywithalotofopinions412 2 года назад +2

    Can’t wait for this one

  • @christianmanka3884
    @christianmanka3884 2 года назад

    I love the old 90s Spider-Man 2099 run! I reread it constantly.

  • @almoni9782
    @almoni9782 2 года назад +2

    I really need a Doom 2099 omnibus... And I can't wait for the spider-man 2099 omni!

  • @vicmartinoofficial331
    @vicmartinoofficial331 Год назад +1

    I like "Owen Likes Comics" liking comics and making videos such as this one here on You Tube!!

  • @leeconrad3663
    @leeconrad3663 2 года назад +1

    I'm curious if you'd tackle talking about the short lived MC2 line as well. That was series of books that I think deserves more attention. Spider-girl, Wild Thing, Dark Devil, J2, A Next, The Buzz, Fantastic Five; and all of it overseen by Tom Defalco.

  • @christophermanley3602
    @christophermanley3602 2 года назад

    Great job! I read most all of the 2099 comics from Spiderman 2099 #1 to Manifest Destiny. Even collected the "world of tomorrow" comics. Definitely one of the more interesting takes of the 1990s, which weren't the best years for Marvel or comics in general. Thanks for this stroll down memory lane.

    • @OwenLikesComics
      @OwenLikesComics  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Chris, I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

  • @themangoman9315
    @themangoman9315 2 года назад +2

    I cant wait to be 97 to get to see if the year 2099 is anything like the comic

  • @JoesGeekShow
    @JoesGeekShow 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video as always. Ever since I was a kid I have been highly fascinated with the 2099 series, specifically Spider-Man 2099. In some ways I actually liked it more than Peter Parker Spider-Man as the 2099 setting gave me both a Spider-Man and that futuristic setting which appealed to my sci-fi enjoyment. In fact, as long as Amazon isn't lying to me, a Spider-Man 2099 omnibus is set to release October 25th of this year. I can honestly say I'm here for it.

  • @davehandelman2832
    @davehandelman2832 2 года назад +2

    Great video. I was always curious about what happened to these. I remember when they came out. I bought the spider man but was really unimpressed with the story. I didn't bother with the others.

  • @Kevin_turner
    @Kevin_turner 2 года назад +1

    I love 2099 series and still haven’t been able to read all of them so I’m glad I found this video.

    • @Kevin_turner
      @Kevin_turner 2 года назад

      Not sure why I said found like I have never been subscribed to you lol

  • @bertfromseasamestreet
    @bertfromseasamestreet Год назад

    Good one

  • @geaux6034
    @geaux6034 2 года назад

    Excellent video. As a young kid I bought two copies of Spider-Man 2099 #1 but did not keep reading.

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 года назад +4

    Any chance you could make a video on ultimate Thor the character and the comic written by Jonathan Hickman

  • @elialexander-tanner5784
    @elialexander-tanner5784 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @MartinPittBradley
    @MartinPittBradley 2 года назад +1

    The first Spider-Man and Doom 2099 stories pulled me into comics

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 2 года назад +4

    I’m pretty sure the answer is the fallout of the speculator boom so you might be looking too much into it

  • @charlietownsend2826
    @charlietownsend2826 11 месяцев назад

    Spider-Man’s ability to both launch and outlive otherwise failing lines and initiatives is pretty wild lol

  • @cecilDisharoon
    @cecilDisharoon Год назад

    2099 was by far the most exciting new thing to come out that fall! I enjoyed the early issues I read. I was starting college and didn't have extra money- but I had good dorm mates! Will worked at Kindo's and made me a dope Doom 2099 poster with his Muse of Fire Shakespearean quote

  • @ClintLowe
    @ClintLowe Месяц назад

    Warren Ellis is usually a good writer, seeing his direction for 2099 explains why no one was talking about 2099 into the late 90s.
    I remember my friends and I talking about spider-man & x-men.

  • @tomhalouva9977
    @tomhalouva9977 2 года назад

    I'd really like a follow up to this that recovers 2009/2099 Timestorm and onwards because there was the Secret Wars series and a storyline in 2019 too and Miguel's various media appearances.

  • @felixirwin8100
    @felixirwin8100 2 года назад

    Would love to learn more about the new marvel universe my dad used to collect those comics and since I have had my own son I don't really have to for myself to go through his collection

  • @rickymcn1
    @rickymcn1 2 года назад +1

    In terms of tokenized characters, Miguel is probably my favourite closely followed by She-Hulk. For anyone who missed out, Marvel are releasing an omnibus that collects the whole Spidey 2099 run along with the Fall of the Hammer event. Personally I stopped giving Marvel and DC my money a while ago but I don't begrudge anyone who stills wants to check out good runs in omni format

  • @willwidrick8039
    @willwidrick8039 2 года назад

    I remember thinking back in the day this was so interesting

  • @royjones8312
    @royjones8312 2 года назад

    When he says that Cap had fallen into ice again all I could think of was Jaimie Foxx’s Electro in NWH saying “yeah, you gotta be careful what vats you fall into”. lol

  • @ainesheehan
    @ainesheehan 2 года назад

    Oscar Isaac is Miguel O'Hara in Into the Spiderverse - thanks for pointing me towards the comics, I'll have to check them out before the sequel comes out 👍

  • @abdelali9279
    @abdelali9279 2 года назад +1

    If it wasn't because of the bankruptcy I don't think the imprint would've ended that shortly, but for what I've heard here this line sounds more interesting than the Ultimate line, not everyone was an ass for the sake of it and its end wasn't as unnecesarily brutal, I think it was a nice sendoff for what is worth.

  • @MelonTartVA
    @MelonTartVA 5 месяцев назад

    While I never read these comics, I’m grateful to Marvel 2099 forgiving me my favorite iteration of Spiderman

  • @oscarangel2989
    @oscarangel2989 2 года назад +3

    I love the Doom 2099 series. Sadly the series fell apart after Ellis departure.

  • @kuriboh635
    @kuriboh635 6 месяцев назад

    Spiderman 2099 issue 1 was the first comic I read and owned. I really want to get another copy and the rest of the 90s 2099 line at some point. It would be awesome to have.

  • @kettchuk918
    @kettchuk918 8 месяцев назад

    Punisher 2099, lapsed Thorite and never used the lower settings on his power bag…pure quality.

  • @joeclarke7982
    @joeclarke7982 2 года назад +1

    Doom 2099 had a lot of potential imo. I would love to see it revisited

  • @Kojo220
    @Kojo220 Год назад

    Ghost Rider 2099 was the first comic I actually kept up with monthly.