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Mike. Bagley isn't even they're worst was Lillard and I didn't realize until the boogie video he was a beast these youngins don't know bout sack boogie
I can actually understand Skip Bayless on his Trey young take... God I just wrote that okay yeah I understand it Trey young shouldn't be talked about with curry because they're two different types of players one believes he is Steph Curry and we'll shoot from the logo even though he shoots 30% from there Steph Curry is still a League average shooter at the very least from behind the logo one is so efficient that he takes those shots and you know it's probably going to go in the other will shoot 30 of them and hit 13 I get Skip's take. And honestly we need to stop comparing pre MVP Steph Curry era to post MVP Steph Curry era the points of ballooned the amount of 20 point scorers have ballooned the amount of points scored in a game has also ballooned and three point shots as a whole have ballooned and the philosophy of the three-point shot changed and if Steph Curry had the green light from day one like Trey did his numbers would be godly even with the ankle injuries.
Seriously bro and he tried to gloss over it.. that part was embarrassing I had to turn the video off immediately, I feel like he didn't watch any Lonzo tape before making that claim
“I don’t wanna bring up injuries like Greg Oden” Markelle: gets injured and literally has to relearn how to shoot Mike: “this is a horrible comparison”
First time I heard of Luka Doncic I hadn’t seen him play then I went on holiday to Spain near the end of the euro basketball season.. Real Madrid game was on in the restaurant where I was eating and I was blown away. I came back home and watched videos on RUclips saying Luka would be a bust etc and I just thought that was insane.
@@odonnchadha1978 we (fenerbahçe) were playing the euroleague finals with real madrid and im telling u he gave us some real hard time especially considering that he was 19 and playing against some experienced players
@@odonnchadha1978 if you really watch basketball, there have players like him before who did not do well in the NBA. People have the right to be skeptical
Thank you for not calling Greg Oden a bust. He played his entire freshman year with his off hand and dominated. It wasn’t his fault he got hurt. Those mid 2000’s Trailblazers are one of the biggest what ifs in NBA history.
Facts, Brandon Roy could’ve/would’ve been a 12 time all star (minimum) he was that good. Look at his accolades in his short career. He was on his way to stardom
Anyone who knows basketball believed in Luka, and Ryan actually played against him. Guys like Stephen A and Cowherd are morons who are paid to say controversial stuff for ratings. The actual analysts knew what's coming. Luka is also deceptively athletic. Athleticism is not just about jumping high and running fast. It's also about body control, decceleration and strength. Luka aces those.
I'd love to see the opposite video - predictions that were bold and unlikely that ended up being very right. An example would be Skip's prediction of Dak in football.
Bold and unlikely ? Are you serious dawg even as a giants fan I knew dak would ball out if given the opportunity. He was great in college and after his first game I knew romo would never get that job back.
It wasn't bad at the time, they already had fox, who established himself as the team's cornerstone at point. With the Kings horrible management and player development, trae and Luka's career would have looked a lot different if they were stuck in sac town
@@DC180PP Luka was considered a 6’8 SF/SG coming out of the draft, having a PG on the team shouldn’t have deterred anyone from drafting him. Hell, the mavs had drafted DSJ in the draft prior and he made the all rookie team and was thought to be the PG of their future, but it turned out Luka was better on ball than anyone else and then he become a superstar damn near out the gate, and totally played DSJ off the team, haha. But nobody thought Luka was gonna be a point guard coming out of the draft (he’s still more of a SG/SF who handles the ball, a la Harden/LBJ), and certainly not the kings. They just passed on the SF Luka Doncic bc they thought Bagley was the better player. Turned out they made the wrong pick, as they almost always do, barring Fox and Halliburton. Edit: I think Luka would still be Luka no matter where he was; like I said, he overshadowed DSJ who they thought was gonna be a future all star and even overshadowed Dirk’s farewell tour in just his rookie year by sheer gravity. He’s one of those generational superstars who doesn’t really get effected by location, they’re gonna be great no matter what. Luka was gonna be Luka anywhere, just like Lebronwas gonna be Lebron anywhere. I think Trae def would’ve been stunted like you said. Same goes for my guy JJJ. If sac took either of those two they would be thought of much differently-in a bad way.
@@josephtedros2089 Yeah I mean, he talks on how scouts compared him to Harden as a huge mistake... He fucking lost the ability to shoot because of a weird injury how can you pretend him to be James Harden and go to free-throwline when you know your freethrows and your jumpshot in general is fucked up
@@gabrielemacera3344 It’s honestly just really sad. I was excited for him to come to philly and then disappointed when he was hurt. I always wanted him to succeed even after he was traded, and a lot of sixers fans felt the same. No one was mad at him, because we all know it wasn’t his fault, he’s just unfortunate.
@@fishjuice3987 Hakeem Olajuwon also as bullied around Shaq in the finals who was a young superstar and we all know how much he later improved and dominated
Before the 2019 draft people said Anthony edwards didn’t have the want to win and was not a good enough shooter. Now he is the youngest player to make 300 career 3s
Am I the only one who doesn’t like the idea of comparing a young player to a great one as soon as they declare for the draft? I get comparing the playing style to an all star or HOF but to say he’s on their level already is setting him up for potential “failure”.
There was a whole video on how the 90s you had people who really cared about the sport that they were covering at ESPN and now they just don't give a shit because Skip Bayless and Stephen A kind of ruined it
I mean u watch undisputed and first take for entertainment and some analysis if u want actual anaylisiss u watch college gameday,the jump,nfl live,nba tv, nfl network stuff like that
This why I hate media they create players titles before they even play. Then all blame or praise goes to player just because old heads said he’s next blank player.
Old heads🤔 yall flip flop between blaming them because they wont accept current stars being good or anything like past stars to now blaming them for something that they don't do sheesh🤣
Always the younger ones talking about ayton the next shaq or David Robinson and old heads sit there like no he got nun on them wouldnt last a second in the league back in the day
@@majorzally24 exactly u cant prove me wrong 😂 ill let yall blame old heads tho for everything tho even tho yall tripping over yallselves which is a bad look
The truth is, all of those trolls like cowherd and Steven A smith say it on purpose just to get people riled up. It’s all an entertainment business at the end of the day.
I think that SAS was honestly angry at the KP selection. I feel like the others do horrible takes on purpose to get attention, I feel like SAS just legitimately doesn’t know what he’s talking about anymore.
That’s what they are paid to do. Their not trolls their paid to talk everyday on a wide range of sports. Making a video with non nba draft experts seems odd
@@SimersFM whether you paid to do it or not. Its still foul and trolling shit. Are you gonna worship a dollar or your own code of truth? "Only a foolish man speaks on things he has no idea about"...A prostitute make money from sex..are you still gonna marry her like you would a everyday women? ....No!!! Getting paid don't make it justified. But this showed alot about your own character and real life situation.
You really can’t fault anyone for having markelle as their unanimous number 1 pick. Markelle was fucking incredible in college-so dynamic and selfless. He absolutely had some sort of nerve damage to his shoulder.
It was obvious he was going to be a bust. I said so at the Shooting guard game in a point guard's body. There was no explosiveness to his game like there has to be for a shorter player.
For Marvin bagley, as a Duke fan and having watched every game he played in college, he looked amazing in college and it looked like he would translate to the nba. The kings and injury’s kinda screwed him over
@@NathanDogg4 at least Lonzo has fixed that three-point shot... but God calling him a Steph Curry with a 40-in vertical Mr Mike here goes a little too far sometimes
Glad you spoke on greg oden because i hate hearing ppl say he’s a bust..if you know basketball you know that he was EVERYTHING that he was evaluated to be coming into the league. No way at all you can foresee injuries taking over his career…i never give guys the bust tag when it comes to that…
In fairness, it seemed like he was focusing on play style, not overall skill. It was about his defensive skills and how he plays, and in both statements, they weren’t close. The injuries did not make Markell’s play very different from James harden, at least not more so. And his injury shouldn’t have affected his defensive skills that much. But that’s what I took anyways.
@@theseyi Markelle is an elite defender. He has a 6’10 wingspan. That didn’t go away. You don’t watch the Magic, huh. - and the reason Markelle didn’t look like Harden out the gate is 100% because of the TOS injury. Everybody knows this. He had to re-learn how to eat with a fork. Cut some slack
@@carter5539 No, I do not watch the Magic, no offense but only Magic fans really watch the magic right now. But if you wanna be rude, I am okay with that. You’ve made two errors in you response. One, wingspan has never equaled good defender, just like height doesn’t equal good player. It helps, but doesn’t make it so. I do not think Markell’s is a bad defender by any means, but elite is seriously a stretch. Previous season (19-20 season), his defensive rating put him at 366 in the league out of 529 people. That doesn’t put you at elite level. His best season for steals is 1.3, which is decent, but as that’s his only decent defensive stat, hard for me to sit here and call him elite. For reference, nobody considers Steph Curry to be an elite defender, and even as a warriors and curry fan, I wouldn’t make that claim. He’s just decent. This past season (his last full season), he had 1.2 steals per game (practically the same as Fultz the previous season), noticeably more defensive rebounds than fultz, and just a little lower defensive rating (lower is better). If Fultz is an elite defender, then Curry is an elite defender. Even this article here that’s praising Fultz barely goes over defense and just calls him a regular contributor on defense, only highlighting his steals percentage (which is good), which isn’t even as high as Curry’s steal % in his last season. www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/markelle-fultzs-breakout-season-brings-hope-the-magic-have-found-their-point-guard-for-the-future/amp/ And almost every draft profile or analysis you can look up shows that defense was considered one of his weaknesses before going into the nba, so his defense wasn’t hurt by his injury. Two, you completely misunderstood what I meant by that one analysis being wrong about comparing hardens defense to Fultz loool. Fultz may not be elite, but he turned out to be a far better defender than Harden, and that was my point. It wasn’t that Fultz is a bad defender, but that he ISN’T a bad defender like Harden 😂😂
@@carter5539 and since I already made a ridiculously long response, I’ll just say that for playstyle, even in college Markell’s played very different from Harden. It’s not all injury.
With Steph ppg number at 22 yrs old, the reason he averaged 18 per game is due to him still being a second option behind Monta Ellis and the team still wasn't fully sold on him yet as being the first option on the team due to his ankle issues
He wasn't that good until his 4-5 season and got stacked . Curry is a bit overrated to me he always has 3-4 all stars on his team but he's def a good player just not all time great his teams elevetaed him to put up crazy shooting numbers because he only has to shoot and okay free
@@diegochavez6203 Best 3pts scorer and 11th top scorer but he is not one the greatest of all time ? Him and Klay during the warrior-cavs era litteraly changed the game
Everyone loved Bagley and I believe he has a completely different trajectory if he doesn't go to the Kings, who had and continued to stockpile young bigs and give them inconsistent minutes. Bagley should have been starting for a bad team, getting 30 minutes and just playing through his mistakes. But now we will never know.
@@TineEdong Fr like he was keeping up with grown ass professionals when Americans would be playing against kids that didn’t even take basketball that seriously.
As a Nuggets fan. Considering MPJ’s health. If he grows into a borderline All Star that would be viewed as a massive victory. In his current state, his max contract might go down as one of the largest albatrosses in the NBA today
Every year, whenever the draft comes around, I watch these American journalists talk about European players and it reminds me of that scene in "Moneyball" where all the baseball scouts start talking about how "this guy has a beautiful throw" and how "this guy won't make it because his gf looks ugly". Same level of bullshit.
He said that injuries won’t count for this list, so I was really confused when he brought up Markelle, cause markelle is more of a Greg oden type of guy than a legit bust.
Yeah exactly Giannis was a project coming in, he was still raw for the wing position. He broke out when he had the growth spurt and it was little easier to see Okafor having a problem because he can't really do much outside posting up, his game would be good for the early 2000s,90s
Most Draft People got 2014 wrong. They thought it was 1996/2003-tier when it turned out to be nowhere close to that. The only guy I can think of whose assessment was accurate was DeanOnDraft, who more or less correctly said that a) Wiggins was, at best, a quality 3-and-D guy who would be woefully miscast as a Kobe-type star, b) Jabari's body wouldn't hold up, c) Embiid should have gone before Wiggins and Parker even taking his injury history into account, and d) Nikola Jokic's otherworldy skill and nontraditional upside made him worth a first rounder, albeit outside the lottery. As a non-expert, I agreed with him on a & c at the time but not b & d. Even then, no one bats 1.000, and that same guy was way off about 2020.
Alot of these were not bad takes at the time. With hindsight they look bad but for example with Andrew Wiggins, If you look at the context back then, he had every right to be hyped the way he was. It's on him and the Timberwolves that he didn't live up to what he could do with a stronger mentality. But comparing him to Kobe wasn't even a bad take. Even Kobe compared him to himself in his rookie year.
If only he had the motivation,he could have been an mvp and I fully believe that He was athletic as I did say lebron And he had the talent I blame Minnesota for that
The term bust is relative. It’s relative to where you were drafted, who you were compared to, how short you came up on your potential, and who was taken after you. Wiggins was a bust. No injuries; Embiid, Lavine, Randle and Jokic being taken after him. If Wiggins was drafted 5th overall and had the career he does now he wouldn’t be a bust, but to be taken first ahead of so many guys who were better after being touted as the next generational superstar and to wind up being just an average NBA player? That’s a bust, fellas. Gotta be real.
Your 2014 class and Chad Ford's assessment of 2009 are perfect examples of how little anybody knows on draft night. Wiggins and Parker went 1-2, as most people expected, and Jokic was a second round afterthought.
To be fair Jokic started playing professional basketball only year and a half before the draft at the age of 17 and averaged 1,8 points and 2 rebounds per game, next season he was 11,4pts 6,4rb and 2,5ast it was only after the draft that he became Adriatic League MVP(even with his team finishing in 10th place, just shows how huge impact he always had on the game, usually nobody would even look at someone not in top 8 for any awards)
For all the Hakeem comparisons, Oden actually could have been like that. His story is so sad, because from all accounts he’s a good dude who worked hard to try and come back from those injuries.
lol, im watching this a year after where Andrew Wiggins shut down the best wing(arguably) Jason Tatum in the finals and literally played lights out on both offense and defense. Funny take since he's an NBA champ now. Obviously not a kobe but not a bust.
Great video! Maybe you can make a series out of it? Each episode you take the top 5 picks from a draft.. explain why they werd picked top 5, who they werd compared to and if they lived up to their comparissons? Should be a cool series! Keep up the great work Mike
6:27 trae is a franchise player. They gave him the keys right away. Looking at their game it's comparable. Trae but up better numbers because he has the green light but don't forget he doesn't get close to the shooting percentages steph had then. Traes shot 32%, 36% and this year 34% from 3. In comparison steph was 43%, 44%, and 45.5% in his first 3 years. He's a superstar but he is not the shooter steph is. It took a long time for steph to become the man
Trae has already almost matched Steph's career high in his 4th year. And he had 14 assists in that game. There hasn't been a shooter like Steph and I doubt there ever will be again. Not with his handles as well. Catch & shoot guys? Sure. But not off the dribble. but there's much more to being "the best pg ever" than just being an efficient 3 point shooter. Steph's career high is 62, he had 4 assists. Trae's career high is 56, he had 14 assists. I'm taking Trae over Curry ANY day as my starting PG. Curry can hit deep threes but he doesn't get his guys involved like Trae does. Trae is asked to carry a massive amount of responsibility and he still manages to put up the numbers he does.
@@_gr1nchh the point of my comment was the comparison of their shooting. Steph is a much more consistent shooter and can hit difficult shots at a high percentage but some things I want to address about your comment. Yes, trae is up next and since I left this comment he has surpassed what I expected of him....yet again. Using a single game high as a benchmark really isn’t the way to compare careers and how good someone actually is. Okay, stephs game high he only had 4 assists but he is a good distributor and because of his lethal shooting it gets guys open looks. He has routinely put up 6-8 assists which is really good. Especially when you take in their era of having 4 all stars, but that’s a whole different conversation. Trae is an insanely good talent and all around is a very good player so far. Lots of points and lots of assists and he is tearing up the NBA. Dude is incredible, really really incredible I won’t take that away. But, to say in 4 years you take him over Stephen Curry? Come on, man! He has a chance to be better for sure with the start he is off to but Stephen Curry is a legend already. Also, a big difference between their careers Steph didn’t get the green light like I said. He wasn’t looked at like Trae was. He dealt with injuries, badly, and had to fight for his spot against Monte Ellis. Once he strengthened his core and showed the Warriors he was the man they gave him the keys. Hawks wanted Trae bad. They traded for him on draft night and let him do whatever he wanted, even on poor numbers. Dude has gotten better and shown he is a top player but he has to prove to the league that he is that dude fr. Win a championship, lead a team to one of the best records, make a couple all star games and/or continue putting up monster stats. With the comment about the shooting I believe there will be it is just a matter of when. It might not be this decade or the decade after but even if there’s not people will disrespect his shooting one day and said he put up numbers in a weak era like they eventually do to everyone about every stat.
@@davidp420 Don't really care what your opinion is. Put Trae next to Klay/Draymond/Poole/KD and watch what happens. Curry's been blessed to have good teammates to alleviate pressure off him. We've seen what happens to him when he's the sole focus of the defense.
The Hawks and GS run completely different offenses which is why Trae will always get more assists. Trae isn’t the offensive weapon Steph is. The Hawks run a mostly traditional offense where the pg always has the ball and thus triggers the offense every possession. GS on the other hand, runs motion and their offense is triggered by a combination of Draymond and Steph. Steph usage rate isn’t close to Traes. All things being equal age etc. would anyone really take Trae over Steph? No way.
Beasley I feel like was never in the right head space. There has been multiple nba players, including Lebron and KD, who said Beasley was the best basketball player they have ever played against. He was a lefty which made his jumper harder to defend. He had a nice shot, you had to play up on him because he could hit the three and mid range, but he also had great speed and could blow by right to the rim and flush it down hard. Sure Beasley played bad defense, he was late on close outs and was lazy on the perimeter, but that could be worked on. But we also see players like James harden who are primarily offense only, Beasley could’ve been a hall of fame if he would’ve worked harder, and if he took care of himself off the court and not get suspended.
Because of this IF-s he ruined expectations. Kobe was great cause he work harder on trainings. Beasley was lazy. That's. That s why he hadn't become Hall of Famer despite of his talent. But talent not the one we need
You should make a video of your worst draft takes, because I remember a lot of your Markelle Fultz video and how bold you were about how good you thought he’d be
I think to be fair, Beasley and Wiggins absolutely killed it in college and the talent they displayed was clear as day. I don't think anybody really predicted that they wouldn't be all-star/superstar caliber players in the league. Just for whatever reason they didn't exactly pan out, so I can understand why they were hyped the way they were. Hindsight is 20/20. Me personally I believed Trey Young could be a great player and was underlooked (I was proven right), but I can understand what people were saying in terms of the guy was undersized, not overly athletic. He wasn't even particularly the most efficient 3 point shooter. But I think the biggest thing with him is his drive and hunger for the game which allowed him to be great. Alot of talented players often are missing this key ingredient.
Yeah,some of these,what else were you to expect then,I thought O.J. Mayo would be great and I know it wasn't just me.You can look at basketball cards and you might get a good laugh on future forecasts!
man, that didn't even make sense at the time lmao. Z-Bo and Anthony Bennett are about as opposite as it gets besides both being big bodied. Bennet was a huge athlete that had long arms and could shoot (sort of) from outside but had literally no low post game, and Z-Bo was a low post beast, arguably the best low post package of his era who was anchored to the ground, could barely jump over a thumbtack and avoided the outside shots like the plague haha
@@WinedandDined27 hahahhah I know! There never existed one second of film showing Bennett banging down low....or resembling Z-bo in any way, shape, or form...and I have the the balls to say some dumb sh*t like that 🤦♂️. I have no idea what I was thinking but I'm lucky a couple yrs later that same friend said "Ben Simmons was about to wreck the league" (wasn't as bad as my original statement but it's safe to say both of use should STFU when it comes to NBA prospects)
The only thing I dislike about these kinds of videos is because whoever makes it is judging decisions made with information that didn’t exist at the time decisions were made. You can’t bring up what Trae averaged as a rookie and in his 2nd year while talking about a draft 2 years prior. There’s no logic to that. Teams taking Bagley over Trae is fully justified considering what they knew the time they made that decision.
@@kyoya6856 What a weird thing to say, Wiggins can’t be a hall of famer because without Steph he wouldn’t have won? By that logic Scottie Pippen shouldn’t be a hall of famer.
@@jello7380 Wiggins isn’t going to be a hall of famer simply because he isn’t good enough, that’s all there is too it. Comparing him to Scottie’s situation is one of the most disrespectful things I’ve read towards Pippen
As a Grizzlies fan I’ll never get over Thabeet… there was so many great players in that draft class! An we took Hasheem 2nd?!?! That’s almost worse than the contract we gave Chandler Parsons 😂
no, it was way, WAY worse than the contract we gave parsons. I'd rather have drafted Harden or Steph any day. I'd bet the Grizzlies would pay parsons that contract five more times if it meant getting Harden or Steph in that draft. I'd pay off Parsons contract MYSELF if it meant the grizzlies got to draft Harden or Steph. "almost worse", that contract isn't even in the same realm, let alone being worse than taking Thabeet that year. I still hate it, haha.
To be fair, there were a lot of bad contacts given around the same time Chandler Parsons got his with the grizzlies. Just look at the Lakers the same year as Chandler Parsons... That is 2016.
At least they've bounced back by drafting Ja Morant. Its just too bad Morant looks ghey asF w. his hair pulled up like a 5yo girl. He needs to try and actually look like a man.
Bruh. How folks are so ignorant to not know Markelle came into his rookie year with Thoracic Outlet Syndrome that has still affected his shooting to this day is absolutely wild. You can’t take his pre-draft, pre-career altering injury and apply to him now. No one with any knowledge would make that comparison. L Mike on this one.
Couldn’t pick a worse 2 Holiday and Derozan saying he’s not even sure they will be solid players. Holiday was/is basically the definition of a solid NBA player. Derozan was way more than a solid player he was just scratching superstar, but 100% was a star for yesrs
That... it just depends on how they develop him because he has a lot of skills that need to be developed if you want him to perform an offense but if you can develop them great it's just not often you get these guys to develop hopefully he does
something big ive noticed with these types of videos, how are they supposed to know how people will pan out? they cant read into the future... Mike goes on about how good/bad they were but how would they know that? for example, trae young, guy said he'll be bad, then mike says he was good in rookie season then the following season. but how was the guy meant to know/figure that out? if anyone who says these types of things was to draft somebody then they most likely would do a horrible job.
@@calebwebster3575 That is not true though. International players are often better because they are professional basketball players. A lot of college basketball players fade out.
Can't remember the guys name, I think it was "Felipe Lopez" out of NY. Back in the 90's he was in High School and put on the cover of Sports Illustrated as "the next Jordan." That didn't work out too well lol.
Excellent video Mike. I do have a sole objection; while D'Aaron Fox has always been better overall than Elfrid Payton, their playstyles are somewhat similar. Both do not shoot very well, and are best on the drive, while also having some playmaking ability, and are pesky on defense. Similarly, I have always thought Kawhi Leonard has a similar playstyle to MJ, but I certainly do not think the former will reach top 5 all-time level.
Hey guys, just a heads up, What If Kobe Went To College Ep. 3 will be released on Tuesday! If you missed the first 2 parts, here are the links!
Part 1: ruclips.net/video/t15COrzrpbo/видео.html
Part 2: ruclips.net/video/FYcV0ESpbZI/видео.html
Thanks Mike your a good content creator keep it up
Let’s go can’t wait
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Mike. Bagley isn't even they're worst was Lillard and I didn't realize until the boogie video he was a beast these youngins don't know bout sack boogie
I can actually understand Skip Bayless on his Trey young take... God I just wrote that okay yeah I understand it Trey young shouldn't be talked about with curry because they're two different types of players one believes he is Steph Curry and we'll shoot from the logo even though he shoots 30% from there Steph Curry is still a League average shooter at the very least from behind the logo one is so efficient that he takes those shots and you know it's probably going to go in the other will shoot 30 of them and hit 13 I get Skip's take.
And honestly we need to stop comparing pre MVP Steph Curry era to post MVP Steph Curry era the points of ballooned the amount of 20 point scorers have ballooned the amount of points scored in a game has also ballooned and three point shots as a whole have ballooned and the philosophy of the three-point shot changed and if Steph Curry had the green light from day one like Trey did his numbers would be godly even with the ankle injuries.
I THINK - "STEPH CURRY WITH A 40 INCH VERT" is still the worst one yet
funny he didn't include that in the intro LMFAO
He gets so mad when people bring that up 😂😂😂
Seriously bro and he tried to gloss over it.. that part was embarrassing I had to turn the video off immediately, I feel like he didn't watch any Lonzo tape before making that claim
so 4in better???
@@Hackersuncovered 8:39 he referred to it himself.
“I don’t wanna bring up injuries like Greg Oden”
Markelle: gets injured and literally has to relearn how to shoot
Mike: “this is a horrible comparison”
I thought exactly the same thing
Even in college though? Where do y’all see Harden in Fultz like even a little bit
@@JayD73 it’s because he was a 6’5 combo guard scoring 28 a game so yeah
Right. I said same thing.
Markelle gonna come back and ball tho I feel it ⛹🏽♂️
How about Lonzo Ball being Steph Curry with a 40" vertical 🤔
i thought the exact same thing as soon as i saw the title lmao
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He said the joke himself guess you didn’t watch the video 🤷🏽♂️
He was... In collage and for about a game or two a season but with no dunks, he can jump tho
Also Iamelo ball tho...
First time I heard of Luka Doncic I hadn’t seen him play then I went on holiday to Spain near the end of the euro basketball season.. Real Madrid game was on in the restaurant where I was eating and I was blown away. I came back home and watched videos on RUclips saying Luka would be a bust etc and I just thought that was insane.
Imagine all we know about him since he was 13yo. I cannot understand why he s not N1 un the draft
Yeah anybody who knew or saw any of the euroleague stuff knew he was the 1# pick.
@@odonnchadha1978 we (fenerbahçe) were playing the euroleague finals with real madrid and im telling u he gave us some real hard time especially considering that he was 19 and playing against some experienced players
@@odonnchadha1978 if you really watch basketball, there have players like him before who did not do well in the NBA. People have the right to be skeptical
@@gsl649 there have not been tho
Thank you for not calling Greg Oden a bust. He played his entire freshman year with his off hand and dominated. It wasn’t his fault he got hurt. Those mid 2000’s Trailblazers are one of the biggest what ifs in NBA history.
@Fries Brandon Roy
Facts, Brandon Roy could’ve/would’ve been a 12 time all star (minimum) he was that good. Look at his accolades in his short career. He was on his way to stardom
Greg is a bust he didn’t live up to the hype so he’s a bust
@@QuietcometBut he got injured, that shouldn’t be considered a bust
Didn’t live up to expectations a bust
I Will forever respect Ryan Hollins for believing in Luka Doncic.
Even Shaq made 1 three 😂😂😂
That's the only thing he gets respect for
He played against him so he really knew how good he was, one of the only takes he got right ✅
Anyone who knows basketball believed in Luka, and Ryan actually played against him. Guys like Stephen A and Cowherd are morons who are paid to say controversial stuff for ratings. The actual analysts knew what's coming. Luka is also deceptively athletic. Athleticism is not just about jumping high and running fast. It's also about body control, decceleration and strength. Luka aces those.
I'm buying the NBA 2K22 with Luka on the cover not Candace Parker
I'd love to see the opposite video - predictions that were bold and unlikely that ended up being very right. An example would be Skip's prediction of Dak in football.
There's a video that has all that but it's strictly Skip predictions, like the ones he actually got right it's pretty good video actually
@@ccink3931 could you link that vid
Bold and unlikely ? Are you serious dawg even as a giants fan I knew dak would ball out if given the opportunity. He was great in college and after his first game I knew romo would never get that job back.
@@justinmichel1840 that’s you, but most of the world had a different view
Dak is a bust. Romo 2.0. Gets good during season but in playoffs chokes.
Ive honestly been waiting to see the comparisons and i wanted to wait for you to do it cuz you have a killer narrator voice
I appreciate that my man
@@MikeKorzemba no problem my guy 💪
It’s easy to dig for bad comparisons 10 years after the fact. Hindsight is 20/20 😎
What are you talking about he sounds like a middle schooler going through puberty trying to hold in a cough while talking 😂
I spit out my drink with the Wiggins and Kobe comparison. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm glad to see Wiggins thriving in GS now. Man is playing great!
You look like you don't waste no drank homeslice
That's crazy
Almost everyone Was saying that TBH I remember how much hype Was around Wiggins
You must be a casual. Wiggins had some of the most hype of any rookie all time. That was literally being said everywhere
Wiggins FINALLY making an all star team!!!! Making everyone who thought he was a future all star feel much better about themselves. 🤣
He has had a good career just wasn't a HOF player!
And that was just the beginning....
And is an NBA Champion.
And he was a top 3 option on a Championship team, not a bust in the slightest. Though he had the potential to be the #1 on a team
Marvin Bagley will now just be remembered as that guy who got drafted before Luka. BIG F.
needs a new situation kings wasting him he still young
Wasnt A Bad Pick They Just Picked The Wrong Player Lol
@@GOATSO99 so... a bad pick, then. haha.
It wasn't bad at the time, they already had fox, who established himself as the team's cornerstone at point. With the Kings horrible management and player development, trae and Luka's career would have looked a lot different if they were stuck in sac town
@@DC180PP Luka was considered a 6’8 SF/SG coming out of the draft, having a PG on the team shouldn’t have deterred anyone from drafting him. Hell, the mavs had drafted DSJ in the draft prior and he made the all rookie team and was thought to be the PG of their future, but it turned out Luka was better on ball than anyone else and then he become a superstar damn near out the gate, and totally played DSJ off the team, haha. But nobody thought Luka was gonna be a point guard coming out of the draft (he’s still more of a SG/SF who handles the ball, a la Harden/LBJ), and certainly not the kings. They just passed on the SF Luka Doncic bc they thought Bagley was the better player. Turned out they made the wrong pick, as they almost always do, barring Fox and Halliburton.
Edit: I think Luka would still be Luka no matter where he was; like I said, he overshadowed DSJ who they thought was gonna be a future all star and even overshadowed Dirk’s farewell tour in just his rookie year by sheer gravity. He’s one of those generational superstars who doesn’t really get effected by location, they’re gonna be great no matter what. Luka was gonna be Luka anywhere, just like Lebronwas gonna be Lebron anywhere. I think Trae def would’ve been stunted like you said. Same goes for my guy JJJ. If sac took either of those two they would be thought of much differently-in a bad way.
"I'm not gonna talk about players whose carreer was ruined by injuries"
*5 minutes later Mike starts talking about Markele Fultz*
People pretend he didn’t have the most unlucky and weird injury/situation.
@@josephtedros2089 Yeah I mean, he talks on how scouts compared him to Harden as a huge mistake... He fucking lost the ability to shoot because of a weird injury how can you pretend him to be James Harden and go to free-throwline when you know your freethrows and your jumpshot in general is fucked up
@@gabrielemacera3344 It’s honestly just really sad. I was excited for him to come to philly and then disappointed when he was hurt. I always wanted him to succeed even after he was traded, and a lot of sixers fans felt the same. No one was mad at him, because we all know it wasn’t his fault, he’s just unfortunate.
@@josephtedros2089 I'm a Celtics fan, I'm not sure he would've been as good as Tatum but it sucked to see him going down that bad
@@josephtedros2089 unlucky he got sent to the 76ers like the guy is hurt really bad and they grinded him into dust
Colin saying Ayton had some Giannis in him looks even more crazy considering what Giannis just did to him.
Not really ayton played very well this season and even most of the playoffs with flashes of giannis in unstoppable force in the paint
@@ybjtya4366 he did play well. But he has no Giannis in him. None at all. He's a different kind of center.
@@cozyfades1587 he had Giannis in him clapping his cheeks lol
@@fishjuice3987 Hakeem Olajuwon also as bullied around Shaq in the finals who was a young superstar and we all know how much he later improved and dominated
@@LouieOcean2 dont compare ayton to Shaq 🤣
Before the 2019 draft people said Anthony edwards didn’t have the want to win and was not a good enough shooter. Now he is the youngest player to make 300 career 3s
Am I the only one who doesn’t like the idea of comparing a young player to a great one as soon as they declare for the draft? I get comparing the playing style to an all star or HOF but to say he’s on their level already is setting him up for potential “failure”.
Kellerman, Cowherd, Skip, Stephen A etc. have all absolutely murdered the credibility of so many reporters and analysts
Thats because they are not analysts or reporters, but entertainers.
There was a whole video on how the 90s you had people who really cared about the sport that they were covering at ESPN and now they just don't give a shit because Skip Bayless and Stephen A kind of ruined it
To be fair max is nowhere near as bad. He said some idiotic stuff no doubt but the others spew nonsense everyday.
@@SwiftySwiftt He’s the only one who improved
I mean u watch undisputed and first take for entertainment and some analysis if u want actual anaylisiss u watch college gameday,the jump,nfl live,nba tv, nfl network stuff like that
This why I hate media they create players titles before they even play. Then all blame or praise goes to player just because old heads said he’s next blank player.
Old heads🤔 yall flip flop between blaming them because they wont accept current stars being good or anything like past stars to now blaming them for something that they don't do sheesh🤣
Always the younger ones talking about ayton the next shaq or David Robinson and old heads sit there like no he got nun on them wouldnt last a second in the league back in the day
@@lilgucci6847 ok lil Gucci
@@majorzally24 exactly u cant prove me wrong 😂 ill let yall blame old heads tho for everything tho even tho yall tripping over yallselves which is a bad look
@@lilgucci6847 terrible look
The truth is, all of those trolls like cowherd and Steven A smith say it on purpose just to get people riled up. It’s all an entertainment business at the end of the day.
I think that SAS was honestly angry at the KP selection. I feel like the others do horrible takes on purpose to get attention, I feel like SAS just legitimately doesn’t know what he’s talking about anymore.
Or they’re narcissistic, lazy and disinterested.
It's more so jealousy and use Their platform as entertainment.
That’s what they are paid to do. Their not trolls their paid to talk everyday on a wide range of sports. Making a video with non nba draft experts seems odd
@@SimersFM whether you paid to do it or not. Its still foul and trolling shit. Are you gonna worship a dollar or your own code of truth? "Only a foolish man speaks on things he has no idea about"...A prostitute make money from sex..are you still gonna marry her like you would a everyday women? ....No!!! Getting paid don't make it justified. But this showed alot about your own character and real life situation.
You really can’t fault anyone for having markelle as their unanimous number 1 pick. Markelle was fucking incredible in college-so dynamic and selfless. He absolutely had some sort of nerve damage to his shoulder.
It was obvious he was going to be a bust. I said so at the
Shooting guard game in a point guard's body. There was no explosiveness to his game like there has to be for a shorter player.
@@idansolon4715 huh I'm sure you predicted one of the best college players to be a bust, you also predict jokic was gonna be a 2 time MVP?
@idansolon4715 Explosiveness is not the only factor to athleticism. If it was, Luka and Bird would be nonexistant in the NBA.
For Marvin bagley, as a Duke fan and having watched every game he played in college, he looked amazing in college and it looked like he would translate to the nba. The kings and injury’s kinda screwed him over
You should've included a clip from Michael Rapaport calling Porzingis "Tingis Pingis".
He was right tho😭
@Cale Mascher *Lateevia
He was right?
WHO DA FUK IS THIS!
WHO DA FUK IS TINGIS PINGIS!
It’s okay Mike, we all know that your the next Steph Curry with a 40 inch vertical!!
That’s all I’ve ever wanted to be
😂😂
😂😂😂
@@MikeKorzemba can you do video on Jayson tatum
@@MikeKorzemba and Jaylen brown
Jimmer Fredette is LITERALLY playing for Shanghai Shark
Lmaoooo
He can play in the NBA if he wants. bench player ofc
@@edwingiron09 he tried last year, lasted barely a week. He can’t, man. Haha
@@MikeKorzemba where is Lonzo ball with a 40 inch vertical?
@@NathanDogg4 at least Lonzo has fixed that three-point shot... but God calling him a Steph Curry with a 40-in vertical Mr Mike here goes a little too far sometimes
Glad you spoke on greg oden because i hate hearing ppl say he’s a bust..if you know basketball you know that he was EVERYTHING that he was evaluated to be coming into the league. No way at all you can foresee injuries taking over his career…i never give guys the bust tag when it comes to that…
I still remember that Stephen A Porzingis rant. I was dying laughing at him going crazy after the Knicks were like the worst team in the league
Maybe he’s not wrong but not fully right at the same time 😂
“the next Olajuwon” I’m sorry but no just, no no he was not Hakeem.
No shit
It’s a prediction buddy
No one can be hakeem
Other than hakeem
@@aidensomething2748 came to type this exact reply, haha.
"I'm not going to talk about injuries" starts bullying kelle 5 mins later
I was looking for this comment. He’s such a hypocrite for putting Markelle in this video. Or he’s just uneducated.
In fairness, it seemed like he was focusing on play style, not overall skill. It was about his defensive skills and how he plays, and in both statements, they weren’t close. The injuries did not make Markell’s play very different from James harden, at least not more so. And his injury shouldn’t have affected his defensive skills that much.
But that’s what I took anyways.
@@theseyi Markelle is an elite defender. He has a 6’10 wingspan. That didn’t go away. You don’t watch the Magic, huh. - and the reason Markelle didn’t look like Harden out the gate is 100% because of the TOS injury. Everybody knows this. He had to re-learn how to eat with a fork. Cut some slack
@@carter5539 No, I do not watch the Magic, no offense but only Magic fans really watch the magic right now. But if you wanna be rude, I am okay with that.
You’ve made two errors in you response. One, wingspan has never equaled good defender, just like height doesn’t equal good player. It helps, but doesn’t make it so. I do not think Markell’s is a bad defender by any means, but elite is seriously a stretch. Previous season (19-20 season), his defensive rating put him at 366 in the league out of 529 people. That doesn’t put you at elite level. His best season for steals is 1.3, which is decent, but as that’s his only decent defensive stat, hard for me to sit here and call him elite. For reference, nobody considers Steph Curry to be an elite defender, and even as a warriors and curry fan, I wouldn’t make that claim. He’s just decent. This past season (his last full season), he had 1.2 steals per game (practically the same as Fultz the previous season), noticeably more defensive rebounds than fultz, and just a little lower defensive rating (lower is better). If Fultz is an elite defender, then Curry is an elite defender.
Even this article here that’s praising Fultz barely goes over defense and just calls him a regular contributor on defense, only highlighting his steals percentage (which is good), which isn’t even as high as Curry’s steal % in his last season.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/markelle-fultzs-breakout-season-brings-hope-the-magic-have-found-their-point-guard-for-the-future/amp/
And almost every draft profile or analysis you can look up shows that defense was considered one of his weaknesses before going into the nba, so his defense wasn’t hurt by his injury.
Two, you completely misunderstood what I meant by that one analysis being wrong about comparing hardens defense to Fultz loool. Fultz may not be elite, but he turned out to be a far better defender than Harden, and that was my point. It wasn’t that Fultz is a bad defender, but that he ISN’T a bad defender like Harden 😂😂
@@carter5539 and since I already made a ridiculously long response, I’ll just say that for playstyle, even in college Markell’s played very different from Harden. It’s not all injury.
With Steph ppg number at 22 yrs old, the reason he averaged 18 per game is due to him still being a second option behind Monta Ellis and the team still wasn't fully sold on him yet as being the first option on the team due to his ankle issues
He wasn't that good until his 4-5 season and got stacked . Curry is a bit overrated to me he always has 3-4 all stars on his team but he's def a good player just not all time great his teams elevetaed him to put up crazy shooting numbers because he only has to shoot and okay free
@diego chavez not an all time great? Wtf are you talking about
@@diegochavez6203 Best 3pts scorer and 11th top scorer but he is not one the greatest of all time ?
Him and Klay during the warrior-cavs era litteraly changed the game
This is great stuff. Holding the "experts" accountable. So much hot air.
Cool video, very good work getting all these clips.
Everyone loved Bagley and I believe he has a completely different trajectory if he doesn't go to the Kings, who had and continued to stockpile young bigs and give them inconsistent minutes. Bagley should have been starting for a bad team, getting 30 minutes and just playing through his mistakes. But now we will never know.
They literally only compared DeAaron Fox to Elfrid Payton cuz of they’re hair 😭
HAHAHAHAHA
Their
Haha. I noticed that.
@@darknightmike10yearsago your username really had me tripping for a minute 😂
Funny,also comparing someone to a bench player
Collin is shaking in his boots after Luka actually became a good player
Who will call that loser out on it? Luka MVP 2022.
Always was
@@TineEdong Fr like he was keeping up with grown ass professionals when Americans would be playing against kids that didn’t even take basketball that seriously.
As a Nuggets fan. Considering MPJ’s health. If he grows into a borderline All Star that would be viewed as a massive victory. In his current state, his max contract might go down as one of the largest albatrosses in the NBA today
look at it this way at least you didn't give Duncan Robinson $90M lmao
@@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE
Duncan WhoOOOooo!?!
… Exactly…. 😆
5:35. I got an add with trae young and sprite in it right at that part 😂 💀
Lonzo Ball is Steph Curry with a 40 inch vertical !?!
I mentioned myself lmao I own it
He’s got a bit of a ways to go though don’t you think?
@@blitzphantom9488 I don’t think you understand what OP actually meant
@Anthony Hermann yea I know that, I was telling Blitz that’s what Adrian meant
Steven a Smith will forever be a fool who underestimated Luka Doncic.
Facts & I Know He Looks At Luka Now & Think "Dam I Was Wrong" 😂
Because Stephen A. Is a racist.
Nah Rashad Phillips is honestly
Not only Luca also very wrong on so many other stuffs 🤣
Racist af
Hey Mike. Did you forget you called Marvin Bagley the next Kevin Garnett?
He don’t have the intensity of KG tbh
@@LessGo7921 not even the same skill set as KG also
He was right about Luka though
Kevin Garnett with a 40 inch vertical?
@@TineEdong Not hard to be right about Luka being a star though...
The thing I like about your videos is that you show video clips of these “busts” making buckets. :)
Every year, whenever the draft comes around, I watch these American journalists talk about European players and it reminds me of that scene in "Moneyball" where all the baseball scouts start talking about how "this guy has a beautiful throw" and how "this guy won't make it because his gf looks ugly". Same level of bullshit.
would markelle fultz be a star if he didn't have that shoulder injury
I don’t think fultz should be on here because of injuries:/
Fultz just simply forgot how to shoot after that injury
he would have, and he will
He said that injuries won’t count for this list, so I was really confused when he brought up Markelle, cause markelle is more of a Greg oden type of guy than a legit bust.
@@arandomdudeontheinternet5792 ya fr me too, I was confused af😂
Jimmer at 6’2”
“He’s big, he’s got size.”
he's big, not tall
he's got size, not height
he was talking about size (muscle/strength)
Some of these predictions are just straight up wild! But I guess you never really know how a player’s game will transition from college to the NBA
I'm calling it right now: Ziaire Williams will be the best or second best player from this year's draft.
Yeah exactly Giannis was a project coming in, he was still raw for the wing position. He broke out when he had the growth spurt and it was little easier to see Okafor having a problem because he can't really do much outside posting up, his game would be good for the early 2000s,90s
At the end of the day, the nba is nothing like D1 basketball so until they step on a nba court, it's an educated guess.
Been following you since 2016 and got nostalgic when I saw one of your videos. Your channel grew so much! Best NBA RUclipsr by far
Most Draft People got 2014 wrong. They thought it was 1996/2003-tier when it turned out to be nowhere close to that. The only guy I can think of whose assessment was accurate was DeanOnDraft, who more or less correctly said that a) Wiggins was, at best, a quality 3-and-D guy who would be woefully miscast as a Kobe-type star, b) Jabari's body wouldn't hold up, c) Embiid should have gone before Wiggins and Parker even taking his injury history into account, and d) Nikola Jokic's otherworldy skill and nontraditional upside made him worth a first rounder, albeit outside the lottery. As a non-expert, I agreed with him on a & c at the time but not b & d.
Even then, no one bats 1.000, and that same guy was way off about 2020.
Alot of these were not bad takes at the time. With hindsight they look bad but for example with Andrew Wiggins, If you look at the context back then, he had every right to be hyped the way he was. It's on him and the Timberwolves that he didn't live up to what he could do with a stronger mentality. But comparing him to Kobe wasn't even a bad take. Even Kobe compared him to himself in his rookie year.
Andrew Wiggins was LeBron, TMac, and Kobe in one. He was the next GOAT.
#BUST
bust
If only he had the motivation,he could have been an mvp and I fully believe that
He was athletic as I did say lebron
And he had the talent
I blame Minnesota for that
He isn’t a Bust.
He just had a crazy underwhelming career in regard on what people thoughts was about him before being drafted.
He's actually had a pretty good career was he overhyped hell yeah was he disappointing from where he was drafted oh yeah but is he a bust oh no.
The term bust is relative. It’s relative to where you were drafted, who you were compared to, how short you came up on your potential, and who was taken after you. Wiggins was a bust. No injuries; Embiid, Lavine, Randle and Jokic being taken after him. If Wiggins was drafted 5th overall and had the career he does now he wouldn’t be a bust, but to be taken first ahead of so many guys who were better after being touted as the next generational superstar and to wind up being just an average NBA player? That’s a bust, fellas. Gotta be real.
Never forget when Skip Bayless predicted Michael Kidd-Gilchirst to be a NBA star in 2011!
To be fair most people said that cause they thought he would fix his shot
I never forget when Skip Bayless predicted steph curry to be a huge star when almost everybody said he was wrong.
Who?
@@newthrash1221 he was like Andre Roberson on the Walker hornets
Member forget when he predicted something like 9 nba finals with a 50/50 shot wrong back to back to back
God I was so hyped for DSJ. So athletic. He had the handles. He could finish so well.
Great video..... Great editing . Well done sir 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Your 2014 class and Chad Ford's assessment of 2009 are perfect examples of how little anybody knows on draft night. Wiggins and Parker went 1-2, as most people expected, and Jokic was a second round afterthought.
To be fair Jokic started playing professional basketball only year and a half before the draft at the age of 17 and averaged 1,8 points and 2 rebounds per game, next season he was 11,4pts 6,4rb and 2,5ast it was only after the draft that he became Adriatic League MVP(even with his team finishing in 10th place, just shows how huge impact he always had on the game, usually nobody would even look at someone not in top 8 for any awards)
greg oden would've been so good if he didn't have different leg lengths
For all the Hakeem comparisons, Oden actually could have been like that. His story is so sad, because from all accounts he’s a good dude who worked hard to try and come back from those injuries.
I would compare Greg Oden to Daryl Dawkins. One and done. Dawkins came out of High School in 1975.
Let’s get some positivity in here. There ain’t no videos on youtube about the best draft day comparisons or the ones that got em spot on.
lol, im watching this a year after where Andrew Wiggins shut down the best wing(arguably) Jason Tatum in the finals and literally played lights out on both offense and defense. Funny take since he's an NBA champ now. Obviously not a kobe but not a bust.
Lol! Great video! None of these analysts ever want to go back to look at these predictions.
Great video! Maybe you can make a series out of it? Each episode you take the top 5 picks from a draft.. explain why they werd picked top 5, who they werd compared to and if they lived up to their comparissons? Should be a cool series! Keep up the great work Mike
6:27 trae is a franchise player. They gave him the keys right away. Looking at their game it's comparable. Trae but up better numbers because he has the green light but don't forget he doesn't get close to the shooting percentages steph had then. Traes shot 32%, 36% and this year 34% from 3. In comparison steph was 43%, 44%, and 45.5% in his first 3 years. He's a superstar but he is not the shooter steph is. It took a long time for steph to become the man
Trae has already almost matched Steph's career high in his 4th year. And he had 14 assists in that game. There hasn't been a shooter like Steph and I doubt there ever will be again. Not with his handles as well. Catch & shoot guys? Sure. But not off the dribble.
but there's much more to being "the best pg ever" than just being an efficient 3 point shooter. Steph's career high is 62, he had 4 assists. Trae's career high is 56, he had 14 assists. I'm taking Trae over Curry ANY day as my starting PG. Curry can hit deep threes but he doesn't get his guys involved like Trae does. Trae is asked to carry a massive amount of responsibility and he still manages to put up the numbers he does.
@@_gr1nchh the point of my comment was the comparison of their shooting. Steph is a much more consistent shooter and can hit difficult shots at a high percentage but some things I want to address about your comment.
Yes, trae is up next and since I left this comment he has surpassed what I expected of him....yet again. Using a single game high as a benchmark really isn’t the way to compare careers and how good someone actually is. Okay, stephs game high he only had 4 assists but he is a good distributor and because of his lethal shooting it gets guys open looks. He has routinely put up 6-8 assists which is really good. Especially when you take in their era of having 4 all stars, but that’s a whole different conversation. Trae is an insanely good talent and all around is a very good player so far. Lots of points and lots of assists and he is tearing up the NBA. Dude is incredible, really really incredible I won’t take that away. But, to say in 4 years you take him over Stephen Curry? Come on, man! He has a chance to be better for sure with the start he is off to but Stephen Curry is a legend already. Also, a big difference between their careers Steph didn’t get the green light like I said. He wasn’t looked at like Trae was. He dealt with injuries, badly, and had to fight for his spot against Monte Ellis. Once he strengthened his core and showed the Warriors he was the man they gave him the keys. Hawks wanted Trae bad. They traded for him on draft night and let him do whatever he wanted, even on poor numbers. Dude has gotten better and shown he is a top player but he has to prove to the league that he is that dude fr. Win a championship, lead a team to one of the best records, make a couple all star games and/or continue putting up monster stats. With the comment about the shooting I believe there will be it is just a matter of when. It might not be this decade or the decade after but even if there’s not people will disrespect his shooting one day and said he put up numbers in a weak era like they eventually do to everyone about every stat.
@@_gr1nchh jesus christ man, this is the stupidest thing I've seen on social media all year. Kudos
@@davidp420 Don't really care what your opinion is. Put Trae next to Klay/Draymond/Poole/KD and watch what happens. Curry's been blessed to have good teammates to alleviate pressure off him. We've seen what happens to him when he's the sole focus of the defense.
The Hawks and GS run completely different offenses which is why Trae will always get more assists. Trae isn’t the offensive weapon Steph is. The Hawks run a mostly traditional offense where the pg always has the ball and thus triggers the offense every possession. GS on the other hand, runs motion and their offense is triggered by a combination of Draymond and Steph. Steph usage rate isn’t close to Traes. All things being equal age etc. would anyone really take Trae over Steph? No way.
Tbf Markelle has suffered big shoulder injuries since his rookie season, it’s not fair to say he’s a complete “bust”
I gotta say while I agree with the bagley statements, I'm so happy the pistons got him. Been looking good so far hopefully he keeps it up.
That elfrid payton comparison is perfect for fox. So much more was expected so that comparison isnt far off
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Beasley I feel like was never in the right head space. There has been multiple nba players, including Lebron and KD, who said Beasley was the best basketball player they have ever played against. He was a lefty which made his jumper harder to defend. He had a nice shot, you had to play up on him because he could hit the three and mid range, but he also had great speed and could blow by right to the rim and flush it down hard. Sure Beasley played bad defense, he was late on close outs and was lazy on the perimeter, but that could be worked on. But we also see players like James harden who are primarily offense only, Beasley could’ve been a hall of fame if he would’ve worked harder, and if he took care of himself off the court and not get suspended.
beasly often beat lebron in miami 1 on 1
@@elijahsmith5315 fax
Because of this IF-s he ruined expectations. Kobe was great cause he work harder on trainings. Beasley was lazy. That's. That s why he hadn't become Hall of Famer despite of his talent. But talent not the one we need
If he wasn't a stoner he would've been Kawhi esque IMO
You should make a video of your worst draft takes, because I remember a lot of your Markelle Fultz video and how bold you were about how good you thought he’d be
I think to be fair, Beasley and Wiggins absolutely killed it in college and the talent they displayed was clear as day. I don't think anybody really predicted that they wouldn't be all-star/superstar caliber players in the league. Just for whatever reason they didn't exactly pan out, so I can understand why they were hyped the way they were. Hindsight is 20/20.
Me personally I believed Trey Young could be a great player and was underlooked (I was proven right), but I can understand what people were saying in terms of the guy was undersized, not overly athletic. He wasn't even particularly the most efficient 3 point shooter. But I think the biggest thing with him is his drive and hunger for the game which allowed him to be great. Alot of talented players often are missing this key ingredient.
Yeah,some of these,what else were you to expect then,I thought O.J. Mayo would be great and I know it wasn't just me.You can look at basketball cards and you might get a good laugh on future forecasts!
The fact that you made a video about worse predictions is so bold lmao. Thumbs up for that.
I don’t normally subscribe to channels but I find myself hearing your voice on all my favorite analysis videos so I have to
He really said we won’t be talking about any one with injuries but Markell has a shoulder injury and it changed his shot🤦🏽♂️
I still do remember when Mike was really high on Luka pre-draft
I remember telling my friend that Anthony Bennett was the next Z-Bo 😂
man, that didn't even make sense at the time lmao. Z-Bo and Anthony Bennett are about as opposite as it gets besides both being big bodied. Bennet was a huge athlete that had long arms and could shoot (sort of) from outside but had literally no low post game, and Z-Bo was a low post beast, arguably the best low post package of his era who was anchored to the ground, could barely jump over a thumbtack and avoided the outside shots like the plague haha
Big man weren't shooting 3 pointers in Z Bo's prime. His low post game and style fit the league perfectly at the time.
But yeah he couldn't Jump over a phonebook
@@WinedandDined27 hahahhah I know! There never existed one second of film showing Bennett banging down low....or resembling Z-bo in any way, shape, or form...and I have the the balls to say some dumb sh*t like that 🤦♂️. I have no idea what I was thinking but I'm lucky a couple yrs later that same friend said "Ben Simmons was about to wreck the league" (wasn't as bad as my original statement but it's safe to say both of use should STFU when it comes to NBA prospects)
espn should hire you men 😂
Cowherd is the K-Mart of sports personalities
The only thing I dislike about these kinds of videos is because whoever makes it is judging decisions made with information that didn’t exist at the time decisions were made. You can’t bring up what Trae averaged as a rookie and in his 2nd year while talking about a draft 2 years prior. There’s no logic to that. Teams taking Bagley over Trae is fully justified considering what they knew the time they made that decision.
Wait so you didn’t wanna talk about people with injuries but you talk about Fultz?
That's what I'm saying
make it make sense Mike
was just gonna say that
I think the comparison was just that he plays nothing like harden
I think Wiggins has proven in the past 2 years that the problem was mostly the team and not him
What about Wiggins now?
Korzemba and Highroller are the only nba opinions i value
Yoooo, Wiggins turned his ish around tho. Didn’t live up to that number one pick but he’s a solid all around guy on the dubs now
And one year later Wiggins made the First All-Star Team, and did a terrific job in the Finals, getting his first ring. They were not wrong, you know?
Still does not compare do Kobe in any way
if curry wasn’t on the team, 4-0 by the Celtics.
@@kyoya6856 well yeah no shit lmao
@@kyoya6856 What a weird thing to say, Wiggins can’t be a hall of famer because without Steph he wouldn’t have won? By that logic Scottie Pippen shouldn’t be a hall of famer.
@@jello7380 Wiggins isn’t going to be a hall of famer simply because he isn’t good enough, that’s all there is too it. Comparing him to Scottie’s situation is one of the most disrespectful things I’ve read towards Pippen
As a Grizzlies fan I’ll never get over Thabeet… there was so many great players in that draft class! An we took Hasheem 2nd?!?! That’s almost worse than the contract we gave Chandler Parsons 😂
no, it was way, WAY worse than the contract we gave parsons. I'd rather have drafted Harden or Steph any day. I'd bet the Grizzlies would pay parsons that contract five more times if it meant getting Harden or Steph in that draft. I'd pay off Parsons contract MYSELF if it meant the grizzlies got to draft Harden or Steph. "almost worse", that contract isn't even in the same realm, let alone being worse than taking Thabeet that year. I still hate it, haha.
To be fair, there were a lot of bad contacts given around the same time Chandler Parsons got his with the grizzlies. Just look at the Lakers the same year as Chandler Parsons... That is 2016.
Ha. Chandler Parsons. Talk about overrated. The guy got fat contracts in Dallas and Memphis for what? But hey, get your money 🤷🏻♂️
At least they've bounced back by drafting Ja Morant. Its just too bad Morant looks ghey asF w. his hair pulled up like a 5yo girl. He needs to try and actually look like a man.
Well memphis will also regret another contract, the one Ja just signed.
Nice holding off on waiting on Lonzo. He’s getting to all star level now🔥🔥🔥
Bruh. How folks are so ignorant to not know Markelle came into his rookie year with Thoracic Outlet Syndrome that has still affected his shooting to this day is absolutely wild. You can’t take his pre-draft, pre-career altering injury and apply to him now. No one with any knowledge would make that comparison. L Mike on this one.
“He doesn’t pop athletically.”
Larry Bird: Lol ok.
Some guy once said that Lonzo Ball was going to be Steph Curry with a 45 inch vertical
Couldn’t pick a worse 2 Holiday and Derozan saying he’s not even sure they will be solid players. Holiday was/is basically the definition of a solid NBA player. Derozan was way more than a solid player he was just scratching superstar, but 100% was a star for yesrs
Yeah was a weird 2 for him to name specially lol
keeping all the receipts of those who disrespected Scottie Barnes on Draft night
Fax
That... it just depends on how they develop him because he has a lot of skills that need to be developed if you want him to perform an offense but if you can develop them great it's just not often you get these guys to develop hopefully he does
He’s gonna be a stud, screenshot this, do whatever, but he’s gonna be a great player in Toronto.
Suggs would have no room on the team without making the back court tiny. Fit wise scottie is the better pick.
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13:47 Mike exposing thabeet 😂😂
All you need to do to have a good opinion is to disagree with Colin Cowherd
Facts
Respect for leaving Oden out of this because he would have been a great player had he stayed healthy
What happened?
@@KaoticReach1999 Injuries keep holding Oden down
@@KaoticReach1999 When he was in college, everyone commented on how he looked like he was in his forties. Turns out his knees really were that old.
Who is here after the nba finals and Andrew Wiggins was the best defender by a mile in the series?
something big ive noticed with these types of videos, how are they supposed to know how people will pan out? they cant read into the future... Mike goes on about how good/bad they were but how would they know that? for example, trae young, guy said he'll be bad, then mike says he was good in rookie season then the following season. but how was the guy meant to know/figure that out? if anyone who says these types of things was to draft somebody then they most likely would do a horrible job.
Haven’t watched a korzemba video since like sophomore year 😭
I’m guessing this will basically be a Stephan a compilation
Who’s here when Wiggins is an all star starter
People really thought Bagley was better than Luka
As a Duke fan, I thought Wendy Carter Jr was better than Bagley
Bc the competition tbh it’s easy to say top college players are better than most international players
@@calebwebster3575 That is not true though. International players are often better because they are professional basketball players. A lot of college basketball players fade out.
Can't remember the guys name, I think it was "Felipe Lopez" out of NY. Back in the 90's he was in High School and put on the cover of Sports Illustrated as "the next Jordan." That didn't work out too well lol.
I haven’t watched many videos of yours for a while but I’m so glad you don’t shout like you used to!! 😂 I’m back as a subscriber now!
What u say to wiggins again??
Wiggins champion!
Excellent video Mike. I do have a sole objection; while D'Aaron Fox has always been better overall than Elfrid Payton, their playstyles are somewhat similar. Both do not shoot very well, and are best on the drive, while also having some playmaking ability, and are pesky on defense. Similarly, I have always thought Kawhi Leonard has a similar playstyle to MJ, but I certainly do not think the former will reach top 5 all-time level.
everybody acting tough when they're up
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