ahhhh, that is maybe why some didnt work, its a triple way to make money! some dude may be like "what, my cheap chinese frankenstein intel CPU didnt work, this sucks", and then goes to buy a ryzen 1600 (which can be had new for not a lot more) instead
So, you're telling me, Chinese get laptop CPUs and make them usable for desktop mainboards? Sounds like a legit recycling method to me. Besides that: you guys are probably the only one, who not only cover the "mainstream" offical products, but also things like this. I really like that.
gosh someone even makes new boards with old z97 and x65 chipsets to use higher end enterprise gear in consumer equipment again. both are mazing reuses of totally serviceable tech.
I agree with every part of your comment... Give me off brand Chinese components, especially ones that implement novel solutions, all day!! Especially affordable ones! Building unusual computers, with cheap, weird, mystery Chinese components, is too much fun!!
Damn Linus, I can't believe you had such a hard time. I ran the QL2X and 3X like a breeze here all the way up to 4.6GHz and even 4.8GHz CPUz Validated. Issue you were having is likely due to PCIe Gen2, some of these CPUs require to use Gen1 to work properly. But then again, you could just have used the integrated graphics (UHD 630). From my testing, Gen3 to Gen1 saw from 5 to 10% performance loss on GPU bound scenarios when using a GTX 1080Ti. You can also try raising VCCSA and VCCIO voltages, sometimes that helps to get PCIe Gen2 stable on these. For some reason, AMD Graphics cards normally don't seem to present these issues. Another thing that might've happened is that the water block used could have messed up the mounting pressure, but there's really not much tweaking involved there. You can totally go up to 4 - 4.2ghz on a stock Intel cooler since they are direct die. Nice to see you guys got to try out these CPUs too, they are pretty neat :-) Btw, I also made a video on them (cc/subtitles in english available)
Intel: *spends hundreds of thousands a year on advertising with LTT Linus: "so these shady Intel chips are engineering samples pulled from God knows where" And people say he's a sellout.
People don’t like seeing someone get free gear for something they don’t like , it’s jealousy over something that doesn’t matter and it’s easy to accuse someone of shilling instead of maybe accepting some people just want to run a business and make deals to that end
@@perniciouskraken1898 It's how annoying the ads are, instead of interrupting the video or spamming us with bullshit at the start of the video, he could just put a banner at the bottom of the screen without interrupting anything, or using the sponsored parts in the video like he did here (just without the spam at the start of the video)
@@mwbgaming28 so you're choosing to watch this video then complaining about the ads that support it and the content, surrrrrrreee thing buddy enjoy being a trash person.
I love whacky stuff like this. So much more interesting than your average "omg new intel CPU" video. Can anyone recommend a channel that focuses on unusual components like this?
I am actually a fan of Necroware (link to his channel ruclips.net/channel/UCKU5nwSWYXa3xfXGBlKyvdw ), he does ancient resurrections and goofs around with junk a lot. He does software engineering too, so he is a tiny bit on the dry side, but his content is friggin cool. I also like LTT, but i do get you, especially since the applicability to real life can be lost a lot on here.
these kinds of chips (laptop and servers CPUs, mobile GPUs such as 8xx Nvidia series and 3060m/6600m) are pretty popular on the Russian side of tech RUclips, so you can check it out with auto translation
@@VauxhallViva1975 _Who's comment are you replying to? You Simple Jack._ _It's not "Soul-Der". It's pronounced sädər which = sodder, you illiterate bastard._
Only reason I ditched my old z170 was 1 bent probably about 10 pins when I dropped my CPU reinstalling it. But man do I love my threadripper more than I ever loved that thing.
Storytime with my last CPU situation: Back in June of 2019, I built a new system with a Core i5 9400F. I had bought the Motherboard, RAM, and CPU ahead of the GPU because of money constraints. (I already had the case and PSU) So I slapped what I had together and tried booting with my GT 1030 and nothing happened, I and my boyfriend thought it was because MSI's cheap motherboards didn't like PCI powered GPU's and left it as-is till we picked up an RTX 2060 XC 1 month later. (Intel F series are not APU's) Once we got the GPU we put it in to see if the system would post but it didn't, we reseated everything till we looked at the CPU... It was bent I must've made board flex when putting on the cooler, so my boyfriend suggested to put something soft like a sock on the edge of a table and push the corners that bent down with fingers on the contact-pads, slapped it all back together and it posted... we fixed a computer with a sock.
L1qu1d 5h4d0w I think that is the normal way to say hertz in English. For those that are wondering how hertz is pronounced in Europe, the e in hertz is pronounced like the e in end.
me: *Sees the video in recommended feed* me: *opens the video* RUclips notifications: *nEW UPLOAD FROM LINUSTECHTIPS* lol (edit: thanks for the 500 likes guys, btw the replies are wild lmao)
@@poco1_loco1 At least learn better English grammar, please. It hurts to see you trying to respond like that and it utterly failing due to bad grammar.
@@SviatoslavDamaschin Totally agree. But it all depends upon which company in China makes what - some things are low quality (or even nasty knockoffs or fakes and I can provide photo proof but no way to add it here) and some are OK and some are actually good quality.
I had a Dell Precision 7510 with a 6820HQ that could be overclocked to 4GHz through the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Keeping it cool was tougher, but wouldn't always throttle. OEMs were on board with some of these features.
Here's today's episode of LinusTechTips "Out of Context Theater": Alex: "Yeah; you pull and pinch, I'll plug". Linus: OK, but what about this hole?" Alex: Uh, that hole's fine." End scene.
It kind of makes sense they're doing salvaged atm. They make everything, and the rejects get thrown away, so what's the point in building a separate factory that makes close replicas? The rejects are cheaper.
No props to the editor who didn't catch the goof-up at 3:36 "So this shim that goes around it, prevents us from putting a CPU on top of this thing and have it rock back and forth..." Hmmm you mean it prevents us from putting a cooler on top of the thing. xD
At 3:36 "So this shim that goes around it, prevents us from putting a *CPU* on top of this thing and have it rock back and forth..." Hmmm you mean it prevents us from putting a *cooler* on top of the thing. xD
Its already been established that they only label things that go in the shop, so if it has a label, it goes into the workshop area and not a random other bin. And, stop using that dead fuckin annoying meme. Its everywhere, not funny, and never makes sense. Linus didn't even do the stickerage, and like the other guy said, if nobody said nothing, that means everyone was talking. Youre literally just making fun of a company for being organized anyway? Like, why?
I reckon, regarding the CPU hold down plate, that they milled the retail version to the exact specs of the sample that was pre-installed, and then went and electroplated it afterwards. Even if the plating was perfectly flat it would be dodgy, but that would rarely be completely flat so there would be a very small increase in thickness around the top edges of the plates.
@@NeuronalAxondo you know those big aftermarket stock coolers , I had one of those , I decided to pare it with a Pentium e6500 running at 2.93 , overclocked it to 3.54 GHz and it was still okay, but it was not a free cooler that comes with the cpu so I don't think it counts. Did yours had a bigger heatsink too or was it a slim 1-2$ cooler
NeuronalAxon - that doesn't really count anymore. Intel downgraded the stock coolers further and further until they just became a bare thin slice of primitive pressed Aluminium. Meanwhile the real power usage has risen, power density per area skyrocketed and st times they did put toothpaste between the chip and heat spreader. You could OC a Core2 but especially after Ivy Bridge the coolers just became the absolute bare minimum to run day to day loads.
Awesome stuff. I used to build computers, and this reminded me of tinkering with my desktop every weekend. Cool video. I have not built a computer in years and this is almost making me think about building another one.
This is exactly the kind of enthusiast project I love! I can see that it was frustrating to work with, but anything that's a weird workaround to get performance for less money warms my heart. Whether it's using the superior-clocking mobile processors of Socket A and 754 in desktop boards to get better performance than their desktop CPUs could provide, using core-unlocking BIOS features on Phenom-II chips, doing the LGA 771-to-775 mod, or just generally finding the right compatible Xeon to go beyond desktop CPU offerings like on LGA 2011, I love workarounds that give the savvy tech fan an opportunity to exceed the limits the manufacturer intended to impose on the end user! I even used to buy AMD Thuban processors with missing pins for salvage prices and put replacement pins made from strands of CAT-5 into the socket where the missing pins on the CPU would line up. That worked perfectly almost every time, with the one failure costing me a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7, which did sting quite a bit at the time. Still worth it overall though! The particular mod you were playing with seems like it could work once the BIOS issues get squared away, and was fun to watch. Thanks!
Yep I caught that too at 3:36 "So this shim that goes around it, prevents us from putting a *CPU* on top of this thing and have it rock back and forth..." Hmmm you mean it prevents us from putting a *cooler* on top of the thing. xD
I'm fairly certain this isn't the first time that you've seen this, you did a video on a similar product a while back. A laptop processor that had been retro fitted to work in a desktop by soldering it to another PC, but this looks like a much cleaner product in my opinion. That said, awesome video and very cool product.
I have installed one of those Chinese Coffee lake 1151 intel CPU 0000 at 2,4Ghz up to 3.6Ghz. I have it running at 2.9 Ghz in a Lenovo M710 tiny form factor with the STOCK FAN AND COOLIG PLATE!!!! (Lenovo motherboard does not have wholes to fit a regular 4 screws cooling plate). Same machine has a GPU Beast external adapter (connected to the NGFF port where the wireless card was installed) with a GTX 1070 G1 and a regular ATX power suply and it works freaking well. I know it's some kind of frankenstein but it works and considering the Lenovo was free from work, I have a really budget gaming PC for around 60€ the CPU, 45 the Beast adapter and 150€ for the GTX. Cinebench score went from high 300 (with stock CPU) to high 800 to low 900. I'm super happy with it.
That's actually a pretty interesting design to reduce thermal insulation while keeping the chip relatively safe. Intel and AMD could learn something from these guys, certainly.
Some year later those processors costs half the price and are good bargain for someone who needs a small CPU for a homemade server. It seems you can have the 6c/12t CPU (45W TDP, $70) working on a B250 board, that is absolutely amazing because: - it's cheap - it's less power hungry than comparable i3-5-7 within the same price bracket - it offers six cores (something you won't get to work otherwise)
im have a motherboard with b250 chipset, you use termalpad 3mm for install coleer ? im have heatsink stock and reverse fan ( sorry for my bad english xd)
@@RoMeeLShEzAiT I use third party heatsinks; most of them works. You don't need something powerful since those CPUs are built for laptops and if you don't mess with them they are on the (slow but) cooler side. I don't remember exactly the price or the model (the case is buried in a small server) but I used a cheap €30 heatsink.
If it's error free, and I can only guess that 5% of the time you'll get hiccups for processing, yet still it's impressive to see it even #functions to begin with.
Linus you should have a torque screwdriver (like a torque wrench but a screwdriver) for stuff like this. I use one to install EPYC CPUs in servers as is recommended by AMD. It will allow you to accurately and consistently set your hold down pressure with this type of CPU retention.
You can actually check whether the die is flush, lower, or higher than the surrounding shim plate. Just take a razor blade or a thin metal ruler, stand the long edge across the shim plate and cpu die, and shine some light through it. If there is even a slight separation between the razor blade / ruler and the object it stands on, light will pass through. If you don't have a thin metal ruler, you can even use art knife refills or metal plates with known straight edges. For the light source, it can be a mobile phone flashlight, or even ceiling lighting.
Whoa... I just got a customers PC to fix and took the air cooler off and boom.. it was one of these chips. I found this video by searching the part number on the mounting plate.. Mr. Su!!!!
I've seen linustechtips many times since I am a subscriber of his channel. And this is the first and only time I will comment about his voice like bottlenecking. So Yeah MAYBE this IS the FIRST TIME I seen this channel.☺
@@ybasmediablitz I read your comment 3 times and still couldn't understand your point. Just because you're subscribed to a channel doesn't mean you watch their videos 😂
What I mean on my comment is he is stuttering saying " THE" no other meanings and instead of saying stuttering, I used the word bottleneck okay?. That's all I am pointing out. And like what I said I've seen many times, not all the time. So I am familiar to Linus stuttering in some words okay? Oh my....
The exposed die is old tec that is supposed to directly bypass the aluminum cover for better heat dissipation. I have an AMD Athlon XP 2600 from an HP from the 2000's (AMD2600XP) You had to be careful putting the heat sink on because you can crack the die\chip if you over tighten your cooler. I believe substituent lines went back to the heat spreader due to people fracturing the chips. My info is a bit old, same time... this is nothing new or to get excited about. The coolest bit was being able to take the heat right off the chips itself, like I added an aftermarket cooler and arctic silver 5 back in the day and dropped temp by 10-15 degrees.
Just about everything in the Chinese home market might as well be alien technology, since the communist government bans just about everything the rest of the world enjoys so they have to engineer their own.
I wanted to post about this, then waited to the end and found that I was kinda right in my head: All your success was on the first mounting plate. Ten after you removed it, you had all kinds of issues. Seems like some of the other ones they sent didn't have correct dimensions and probably caused either heat issues and / or mounting pressure issues.
technically aluminum is correct. that's the american (and first) pronunciation. the british took it and had to get stuff and make it sound like all the others, so they changed it to the -ium ending. but, that said... the british pronunciation has been around so long, it's also correct now, too. anyway...
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd no, aluminium makes my ears bleed. lol xD but really, for probably exactly the same reason (the way i learned it first) one sounds right to me, and the other sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
@@tzxazrael Precisely what I was going to type. Why do people complain about "aluminum" ending with -um and not "platinum" or "molybdenum?" Both versions of aluminum/ium would considered correct these days.
Hey Linus, got an idea for you... Why don't you get some atomized colloidal copper powder. Place a small pile of it on you chip, clamp down your cooling solution (periodically backing the screws out a quarter turn, and shimmying the cold plate a little, to even out the powder distribution), then carefully hit all for sides with a heat gun, to momentarily liquify the copper colloid. Maybe even have two people, and develope a system of one tightening down the cooling solution, while another simultaneously heat guns the copper. If you can melt that pile flat, with the cooler all the way down, that would probably be the best possible thermal conduction, and subsequent heat transfer, that would be practical for civilian (non commercial or industrial solution) use today, that is currently possible for home PC's and Laptops (although I'm sure, if scaled up, it could be developed into a commercial or industrial solution as well...) Just an idea (gets you rich remember me!!!)💡😜🤪 ...L8r 👍
This was a video "the likes of which I have never seen ... anything quite like." [edit:]... PS: ever found yourself wondering, "What on earth is this big yellow hollowed-out inverted cone here, some kind of sex toy or medical instrument?" This problem never happens here at LMG due to our labeling policy! In all seriousness, cool video! Didn't know that was a thing at all.
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“Of course, if we were gonna be rendering all day and we had 150$ to spend, we would just go for a Core i5 8400 or something like that with six cores…” Well, I do hope you would go with something other like that when you’d want to game at a relatively low price point. If I recall correctly, you yourself were pretty clear that a Ryzen 5 is better in heavily multithreaded tasks and at least close in most other scenarios.
i mean... Intel has been "the one" for so long. it's going to take time to get used to AMD actually being a viable competitor again after so long. Plus intel has basically been sitting on its ass for years, not really doing anything because they didn't have to. so, will AMD's current reign even be able to last very long? i mean, who knows, either way competition is good. let's hope they both stay competitive for everyone's benefit. now we need someone to come up and mess with Nvidia... do something to start clawing high-end gfx card prices down...
@@Ckcdillpickle i mean, i got some free games with my RTX 2080, probably at least the same retail value... but that doesn't mean any of the games are ones i actually WANT or play... so that's hardly an effective bonus. (also; bought in summer '18 or so, when there was nothing even close, or i might have tried something like 5700xt)
this would have been a perfect stress test for those reusable graphine cooler pads. since there is no way they could make full contact they would have to spread the heat to the edges where the shim is.
Plot twist: Mr. Su is actually Lisa Su and she also now makes double money with distributing both AMD and sketchy intel chips
ahhhh, that is maybe why some didnt work, its a triple way to make money! some dude may be like "what, my cheap chinese frankenstein intel CPU didnt work, this sucks", and then goes to buy a ryzen 1600 (which can be had new for not a lot more) instead
Plot twist: Lisa Lisa is JoJo's mom
@@aapelikananena9699 even better, twice the milf status
You mean Lisa Lisa?
@@poco1_loco1 why so angry?
16:56 close your eyes and listen and let your imagination go wild
Bruh
Bruh ! verry underrated comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh wow 🤣🤣
Underrated
WHY DOES ALMOST EVERY LTT VIDEO HAVE THIS COMMENT
So, you're telling me, Chinese get laptop CPUs and make them usable for desktop mainboards? Sounds like a legit recycling method to me.
Besides that: you guys are probably the only one, who not only cover the "mainstream" offical products, but also things like this. I really like that.
agreed. upcycling is great for the environment, assuming shipping and remanufacturing dont pollute too much.
gosh someone even makes new boards with old z97 and x65 chipsets to use higher end enterprise gear in consumer equipment again. both are mazing reuses of totally serviceable tech.
I agree with every part of your comment... Give me off brand Chinese components, especially ones that implement novel solutions, all day!! Especially affordable ones! Building unusual computers, with cheap, weird, mystery Chinese components, is too much fun!!
@@godchi1dvonsteuben770 my entire custom itx loop is all Chinese parts, took a while to translate and it's almost done :))
you can find some I9 mobile cpu for 200$ in china
Damn Linus, I can't believe you had such a hard time. I ran the QL2X and 3X like a breeze here all the way up to 4.6GHz and even 4.8GHz CPUz Validated. Issue you were having is likely due to PCIe Gen2, some of these CPUs require to use Gen1 to work properly. But then again, you could just have used the integrated graphics (UHD 630). From my testing, Gen3 to Gen1 saw from 5 to 10% performance loss on GPU bound scenarios when using a GTX 1080Ti. You can also try raising VCCSA and VCCIO voltages, sometimes that helps to get PCIe Gen2 stable on these. For some reason, AMD Graphics cards normally don't seem to present these issues. Another thing that might've happened is that the water block used could have messed up the mounting pressure, but there's really not much tweaking involved there. You can totally go up to 4 - 4.2ghz on a stock Intel cooler since they are direct die. Nice to see you guys got to try out these CPUs too, they are pretty neat :-) Btw, I also made a video on them (cc/subtitles in english available)
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Watch it, Linus!
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Intel: *spends hundreds of thousands a year on advertising with LTT
Linus: "so these shady Intel chips are engineering samples pulled from God knows where"
And people say he's a sellout.
People don’t like seeing someone get free gear for something they don’t like , it’s jealousy over something that doesn’t matter and it’s easy to accuse someone of shilling instead of maybe accepting some people just want to run a business and make deals to that end
Broken Games quit being a jealous baby in short
@@perniciouskraken1898 It's how annoying the ads are, instead of interrupting the video or spamming us with bullshit at the start of the video, he could just put a banner at the bottom of the screen without interrupting anything, or using the sponsored parts in the video like he did here (just without the spam at the start of the video)
@@mwbgaming28 are you too lazy to skip 10 secs of the video????
@@mwbgaming28 so you're choosing to watch this video then complaining about the ads that support it and the content, surrrrrrreee thing buddy enjoy being a trash person.
Wait, is that the Mr. Su from that little, uhm, "hardware shop" in that one back alley in Shenzhen? :)
yep
Wait have you met him
Omg right, I saw that shop when I was buying solar streetlights
he was promoting the cpu when i went there
Nice new system to me
intel: you get EITHER ecc or overclocking
china: no
Also nobody: my pc works
China: No
So what can you do?
China:Build a wall.
@@-se6741 Trump wants to know your location
I’m cheering for China to make socket adapters.....
Amd: Yes
That dialup modem sound effect at 10:45 was hilarious. Had me wondering if Linus was thinking at 14.4 or 56k.
That sound was the intial part of the handshake IIRC.
Most likely 1200 with high bit error rates.
@@TheBodgybrothers - You mean cos he's slow? 😂
gr8 edit
@@Djuntas - gr8 comment. Who's edit, now?
I love whacky stuff like this. So much more interesting than your average "omg new intel CPU" video. Can anyone recommend a channel that focuses on unusual components like this?
sorry for the super late reply, you can check out Miyconst, he does some in depth review of those obscure PC components
Randomgaminginhd though he does more older stuff. Also Dawid does tech stuff.
I am actually a fan of Necroware (link to his channel ruclips.net/channel/UCKU5nwSWYXa3xfXGBlKyvdw ), he does ancient resurrections and goofs around with junk a lot. He does software engineering too, so he is a tiny bit on the dry side, but his content is friggin cool. I also like LTT, but i do get you, especially since the applicability to real life can be lost a lot on here.
these kinds of chips (laptop and servers CPUs, mobile GPUs such as 8xx Nvidia series and 3060m/6600m) are pretty popular on the Russian side of tech RUclips, so you can check it out with auto translation
The comment is quite old, but nowadays "Bringus Studios" does a lot of these
I like how Linus was impressed with how cool the cpus were running at stock. I think he forgot that they're BGAs and BGAs have low TDPs.
its also bare die with no IHS
@@lievre460 pentium3M forever lol
It's funny he thought it was crazy now that we delid CPUs often and have contact frames for them lol
But the real question here is:
*Do the connectors on this chip pop like little Legos?*
No, but there are scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7
Let's find out
...
Grahhhhh! My foot, it hurts so much!
This doesn't takes bending very well...
No but glass is glass and glass breaks.
and does it have the magic pull tabs?
"It's also possible we didn't get a good mount."
Story of my life dude.
I laughed harder then i should have at this comment. Thanks dude.
better a bad mount that none at all mate.
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
Mama Su is playing 4D chess, she even owns the shady cpu market.
Lisa su is actually selling sketchy intel cpu and Ryzen cpus
4D can’t wait till i can go visit my family in that dimension
Winterverse. U don’t have a family
@Bob Pro acctaly i do because my dad didn’t run away when i was born
@@ididaomething4531 Well it's hard to run away when he's in a wheelchair.
_Intel: "Where in the Fook did you get these?!!!"_
_China: yes_
sund bout roite
SOLDER not SODDER.
Say it slowly...."SOUL-DER", not "SOD-DER"
I hate how USA and Canada say SODDER.
@@VauxhallViva1975 _Who's comment are you replying to? You Simple Jack._
_It's not "Soul-Der". It's pronounced sädər which = sodder, you illiterate bastard._
Sodder dat bitch!!
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT Sure, it's pronounced "sädər"... if you don't actually speak English.
*Bios Crash*
Everyone: "OMG NO! ITS BROKEN"
Linus: "Blah blah blah, load optimized defaults"
Linus: if you happen to have an old Z-170 board..
Me: *looks at Z-170S* its okay baby, your not old dont listen to him, you are just mature.
l couldnt come up with a name so i used this
Only reason I ditched my old z170 was 1 bent probably about 10 pins when I dropped my CPU reinstalling it. But man do I love my threadripper more than I ever loved that thing.
My main rig is Z68 so yeah, 'old Z170' is a bit funny to me.
@@sparkyenergia amen brotha, had an ASUS P87 or something I think a while back, had a 2500k In it i know that so atleast 8 years old ^^
@@YourLordMobius "Dropped my cpu"... Is this an alt account of Linus's?
"Working on a filled loop is perfectly fine"
-Linus
The replay spike at 17:25 made me lol almost as much as the audio did.
Same haha
Storytime with my last CPU situation:
Back in June of 2019, I built a new system with a Core i5 9400F. I had bought the Motherboard, RAM, and CPU ahead of the GPU because of money constraints. (I already had the case and PSU) So I slapped what I had together and tried booting with my GT 1030 and nothing happened, I and my boyfriend thought it was because MSI's cheap motherboards didn't like PCI powered GPU's and left it as-is till we picked up an RTX 2060 XC 1 month later. (Intel F series are not APU's) Once we got the GPU we put it in to see if the system would post but it didn't, we reseated everything till we looked at the CPU...
It was bent
I must've made board flex when putting on the cooler, so my boyfriend suggested to put something soft like a sock on the edge of a table and push the corners that bent down with fingers on the contact-pads, slapped it all back together and it posted...
we fixed a computer with a sock.
babydoh lol
😂😂😂 good
Is your boyfriend Louis Rossman by any chance?
@@Zwettekop That gives you 5V on CPU_PLANE_V3_HOT and now we have USB spin. He taught me everything I know ;)
@@excitedbox5705 PPBUS is hot😉
intel and amd: we have restrictions and locks on our hardware and you will use them how we intend you to use them.
China has entered the chat.
@surfer300ZX he is referring to them doing whatever they want instead of complaining about right to repair.
You are correct sir.
Hate it or love it, but Chinese market is land of wonders
@surfer300ZX yes but there is restriction on x86 instruction CPU instruction set.
China entered the chat and banned everyone !
Whoever edited in that little hacking bit, that was genius.
“4.2 jiggahörtzz”
he said...
L1qu1d 5h4d0w yea im pretty sure he says it that way as a joke, not that you said otherwise, im just saying
Okay. Now what?
XD ik,
was funny, just sayin
@@L1qu1d_5h4d0w maybe he has been watching back to the future.
L1qu1d 5h4d0w I think that is the normal way to say hertz in English. For those that are wondering how hertz is pronounced in Europe, the e in hertz is pronounced like the e in end.
I’m having The Verge “CPU Applicator” flash backs 😭
The Verge knows how to build PCs, i dunno what you want?
ok, sarcasm off, i understand you xD
Linus should learn from them and put the entire tube onto the die.
Fenrigalo Wolf you had me in the first half ngl
I bled for this fucking thing.
@@indexMemories Wasn't that the Motherboard?
"We didn't think this through"
And that's one of the reasons we watch the Linus Tech channel!
"this is not our finest plumbing job but we're going for performance not looks"
* *flashbacks to concrete cooling* *
Remember the whole room water cooling lol
@@batt3ryac1d - Was really cool, though
@@tommylyeah well, no... not so much really. i seem to recall it ended up actually making everything rather hot (hur hur hur!) xD
me: *Sees the video in recommended feed*
me: *opens the video*
RUclips notifications: *nEW UPLOAD FROM LINUSTECHTIPS*
lol
(edit: thanks for the 500 likes guys, btw the replies are wild lmao)
Better than why it tells you the video has been uploaded, then it doesn't show up in notifications.
@@poco1_loco1 fuck off
Exchange Subscribes stfu bitch
@@poco1_loco1 respect 🤣🤣🤣
@@poco1_loco1 At least learn better English grammar, please. It hurts to see you trying to respond like that and it utterly failing due to bad grammar.
Linus: We're going straight to 4.6 Gigahertz boom!
Also Linus: Let's see what the core temps are now... AAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNDDDD IT'S GONE!
Next time: "Hackintosh on the Mystery Chinese CPUs"
have u ever achieved anyhting ur self whity ?
Because chinese product is a low quality.. We hate low quality
You know that 90% of electronics is made in china, right?
@@SviatoslavDamaschin Totally agree.
But it all depends upon which company in China makes what - some things are low quality (or even nasty knockoffs or fakes and I can provide photo proof but no way to add it here) and some are OK and some are actually good quality.
@@xo4205 just look around and pick anything you find it has a good quality. there is a 90% percent chance it is made in China.
When you’re here before everyone else because RUclips notifications never work properly
Lmao. So true. Best way is to be on Twitter to get here early
when you get your comment hearted
There are tons of comments at the same time as yours.
@Bukan Vanessa Angel Wait he's dead?
hi
I had a Dell Precision 7510 with a 6820HQ that could be overclocked to 4GHz through the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Keeping it cool was tougher, but wouldn't always throttle. OEMs were on board with some of these features.
Here's today's episode of LinusTechTips "Out of Context Theater":
Alex: "Yeah; you pull and pinch, I'll plug".
Linus: OK, but what about this hole?"
Alex: Uh, that hole's fine."
End scene.
Please do this every video
Was about to like until I realized it was at 69 likes!!! Catastrophe avoided!!
@@cooperbowden8730 me too so i liked yours!
@@cooperbowden8730 *It seem the mistake has been made!*
When you were waiting for the intro but it didn't come :(
Ya like jazz i skipped like 5 mins of the video realizing there was no intro
i cant unsee your profile picture please stop oh god AAAAAAAAAAAA
WOW-WAW-WAAW-WAAAOOO--WAW-WAW-WAOOOOOOOOO *bum chhhh*
There
*YA LIKE JAZZ?*
ya like jazz?
19:52 next time when they need a financial expert on any South Park Series you are close to number one with your "aaand its gone" :D
Soon: China going to be spitting out “mostly” compatible cpus wholly made in china, but disguised as salvaged cpus.
It kind of makes sense they're doing salvaged atm. They make everything, and the rejects get thrown away, so what's the point in building a separate factory that makes close replicas? The rejects are cheaper.
Linus hates hongkongs freedom
And they're all going to phone home.
That for some reason make the computer talk to a Chinese IP even when you are not trying to be online....
@ true？
This reminds me of trying to get an AMD Duron stable 19 years ago.
and living whit a small chipped corner so it will at random crass but beeing broke can't afford a new chip :p
@@mareli82 Hahaha, same here! The days when I reinstalled Windows 98 so many times I could recite the product key from memory.
12:13 has me dead😭
Damn, this was the smoothest LTT sponsor transition I've seen in a long time.
Yeah I actually didnt skip it which is rare
and there is no intro
Ok, props to whoever did the editing on this one. That airplane killed me.
No props to the editor who didn't catch the goof-up at 3:36 "So this shim that goes around it, prevents us from putting a CPU on top of this thing and have it rock back and forth..." Hmmm you mean it prevents us from putting a cooler on top of the thing. xD
dude editor is 10/10 on this one
@@l00SING taran?
At 3:36 "So this shim that goes around it, prevents us from putting a *CPU* on top of this thing and have it rock back and forth..." Hmmm you mean it prevents us from putting a *cooler* on top of the thing. xD
I guess the code for Intel’s secret vault is 1111
Like when the US nuclear arsenal codes were all 00000000000
It's 9900
Nobody:
LinusTechTips: slapping ''funnel'' sticker on a funnel.
This needs way more likes
funny nobody XDDD shut the fuck up
Nobody said nothing? So everybody was all talking at once and then Linus slapped the sticker on?
@@tobahiphop1 thaank you for actually seeing how fuckin stupid this dead and overly-repeated meme is.
Its already been established that they only label things that go in the shop, so if it has a label, it goes into the workshop area and not a random other bin. And, stop using that dead fuckin annoying meme. Its everywhere, not funny, and never makes sense. Linus didn't even do the stickerage, and like the other guy said, if nobody said nothing, that means everyone was talking. Youre literally just making fun of a company for being organized anyway? Like, why?
I reckon, regarding the CPU hold down plate, that they milled the retail version to the exact specs of the sample that was pre-installed, and then went and electroplated it afterwards. Even if the plating was perfectly flat it would be dodgy, but that would rarely be completely flat so there would be a very small increase in thickness around the top edges of the plates.
New upload
My brain: yes
My Battery: No
BEGGAR
I'm more impressed to see sometnig that even an intel stock cooler can cool
I OCed my old Core2 on an Intel stock cooler. It probably would have done brilliantly with a water block or even an after market decent air cooler.
@@NeuronalAxondo you know those big aftermarket stock coolers , I had one of those , I decided to pare it with a Pentium e6500 running at 2.93 , overclocked it to 3.54 GHz and it was still okay, but it was not a free cooler that comes with the cpu so I don't think it counts. Did yours had a bigger heatsink too or was it a slim 1-2$ cooler
@@fatih9016 - It came with the CPU - looked just like the one Linus had in his hand.
I had an overclocked i7 3770 on a stock cooler a while ago lol.
NeuronalAxon - that doesn't really count anymore. Intel downgraded the stock coolers further and further until they just became a bare thin slice of primitive pressed Aluminium. Meanwhile the real power usage has risen, power density per area skyrocketed and st times they did put toothpaste between the chip and heat spreader. You could OC a Core2 but especially after Ivy Bridge the coolers just became the absolute bare minimum to run day to day loads.
Awesome stuff. I used to build computers, and this reminded me of tinkering with my desktop every weekend. Cool video. I have not built a computer in years and this is almost making me think about building another one.
Nobody:
Linus everytime PC boots: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lmao
I work in IT, I too share the fear and HEY every time booting up.
Its "EEEEY" btw, no H.
Lmao
@@justinstar9710 same
This is exactly the kind of enthusiast project I love! I can see that it was frustrating to work with, but anything that's a weird workaround to get performance for less money warms my heart.
Whether it's using the superior-clocking mobile processors of Socket A and 754 in desktop boards to get better performance than their desktop CPUs could provide, using core-unlocking BIOS features on Phenom-II chips, doing the LGA 771-to-775 mod, or just generally finding the right compatible Xeon to go beyond desktop CPU offerings like on LGA 2011, I love workarounds that give the savvy tech fan an opportunity to exceed the limits the manufacturer intended to impose on the end user!
I even used to buy AMD Thuban processors with missing pins for salvage prices and put replacement pins made from strands of CAT-5 into the socket where the missing pins on the CPU would line up. That worked perfectly almost every time, with the one failure costing me a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7, which did sting quite a bit at the time. Still worth it overall though!
The particular mod you were playing with seems like it could work once the BIOS issues get squared away, and was fun to watch. Thanks!
16:19 I love how your funnel is labelled "FUNNEL", just in case someone doesn't know how a funnel looks like.
3:38 Linus :”Putting a CPU on top of this thing and......”
Me: Yep......... Wait WHAT?
Louis Bryant
just some adapter, use it in a normal socket!
Yep I caught that too at 3:36 "So this shim that goes around it, prevents us from putting a *CPU* on top of this thing and have it rock back and forth..." Hmmm you mean it prevents us from putting a *cooler* on top of the thing. xD
I was cracking up so hard.. I know Linus meant Cpu HEATSINK... but, yeah.. let's stack up those CPUs baby!!!
I'm fairly certain this isn't the first time that you've seen this, you did a video on a similar product a while back. A laptop processor that had been retro fitted to work in a desktop by soldering it to another PC, but this looks like a much cleaner product in my opinion.
That said, awesome video and very cool product.
I have installed one of those Chinese Coffee lake 1151 intel CPU 0000 at 2,4Ghz up to 3.6Ghz. I have it running at 2.9 Ghz in a Lenovo M710 tiny form factor with the STOCK FAN AND COOLIG PLATE!!!! (Lenovo motherboard does not have wholes to fit a regular 4 screws cooling plate).
Same machine has a GPU Beast external adapter (connected to the NGFF port where the wireless card was installed) with a GTX 1070 G1 and a regular ATX power suply and it works freaking well.
I know it's some kind of frankenstein but it works and considering the Lenovo was free from work, I have a really budget gaming PC for around 60€ the CPU, 45 the Beast adapter and 150€ for the GTX. Cinebench score went from high 300 (with stock CPU) to high 800 to low 900.
I'm super happy with it.
"So these are unlocked CPUs and you can get them for as little as $80-$90"
*laughs in Ryzen*
@@tdplay4135 3000G? 49$?
It's not designed to take over Intel or AMD. It's designed to keep American Intel and AMD providing cpus for China. You know what I mean.
Laughs in temps
@@爸爸-r2c does China basically rule the cpu industry?
@@trytoneee Actually if you think about it china rules every technology-related industry
"Hell Yeah" - Cameraman 2019
12:22 “Insist OR UlTrA DuRaBlE”
That's actually a pretty interesting design to reduce thermal insulation while keeping the chip relatively safe. Intel and AMD could learn something from these guys, certainly.
"The only reason we would want this is to see me die faster in more frames per second."
If you are gonna die, do it properly. Lmao
Loved the music in the background. Thought it was used well.
17:28 Linus when he sees new EPYC chips
@@poco1_loco1 Fuck off.
19:56 **starts having Vietnam war flashbacks**
Some year later those processors costs half the price and are good bargain for someone who needs a small CPU for a homemade server.
It seems you can have the 6c/12t CPU (45W TDP, $70) working on a B250 board, that is absolutely amazing because:
- it's cheap
- it's less power hungry than comparable i3-5-7 within the same price bracket
- it offers six cores (something you won't get to work otherwise)
im have a motherboard with b250 chipset, you use termalpad 3mm for install coleer ? im have heatsink stock and reverse fan ( sorry for my bad english xd)
@@RoMeeLShEzAiT I use third party heatsinks; most of them works.
You don't need something powerful since those CPUs are built for laptops and if you don't mess with them they are on the (slow but) cooler side.
I don't remember exactly the price or the model (the case is buried in a small server) but I used a cheap €30 heatsink.
@@simonescuderi5977 many thanks :)
If it's error free, and I can only guess that 5% of the time you'll get hiccups for processing, yet still it's impressive to see it even #functions to begin with.
After hearing that screwdriver-thing sound I need ifixit kit in my home asap
Linus you should have a torque screwdriver (like a torque wrench but a screwdriver) for stuff like this. I use one to install EPYC CPUs in servers as is recommended by AMD. It will allow you to accurately and consistently set your hold down pressure with this type of CPU retention.
16:53 close your eyes for about 20 seconds and listen closely.
😂
Omg.
Omg hahahaha
😂
Hahaha.
Mister Su?
Do you think it's Lisa Su's evil twin brother?
shut the fuck up communist shill
@@interrobangings shut the fuck up capi shit
You can actually check whether the die is flush, lower, or higher than the surrounding shim plate. Just take a razor blade or a thin metal ruler, stand the long edge across the shim plate and cpu die, and shine some light through it. If there is even a slight separation between the razor blade / ruler and the object it stands on, light will pass through.
If you don't have a thin metal ruler, you can even use art knife refills or metal plates with known straight edges. For the light source, it can be a mobile phone flashlight, or even ceiling lighting.
"Jigahertz"...."Jif"..........What's next...calling James "Games"
Morgan Gearaffe
I don't know what you're joing on about mate.
Unless you're speaking a latin derived language
A+ quality comment mate
Isn't it a back to the future reference?
I have a prebuilt starter PC plus, with really nice specs, but I just like Linus talking about things I don’t understand, but would like to learn
Whoa... I just got a customers PC to fix and took the air cooler off and boom.. it was one of these chips. I found this video by searching the part number on the mounting plate.. Mr. Su!!!!
"What would normally be the the the mounting plate for the socket"
a bottle neck in his voice? oh my
You've obviously never seen Linustechtips before.
I've seen linustechtips many times since I am a subscriber of his channel. And this is the first and only time I will comment about his voice like bottlenecking. So Yeah MAYBE this IS the FIRST TIME I seen this channel.☺
@@ybasmediablitz I read your comment 3 times and still couldn't understand your point. Just because you're subscribed to a channel doesn't mean you watch their videos 😂
What I mean on my comment is he is stuttering saying " THE" no other meanings and instead of saying stuttering, I used the word bottleneck okay?. That's all I am pointing out. And like what I said I've seen many times, not all the time. So I am familiar to Linus stuttering in some words okay? Oh my....
" *Ayyyyy!* Ohp,it's off. *Ayyyyy!* Ohp, it's off. Ooooh look fidget spinner"
@@poco1_loco1 no
@@poco1_loco1 Fuck you
The exposed die is old tec that is supposed to directly bypass the aluminum cover for better heat dissipation.
I have an AMD Athlon XP 2600 from an HP from the 2000's (AMD2600XP) You had to be careful putting the heat sink on because you can crack the die\chip if you over tighten your cooler. I believe substituent lines went back to the heat spreader due to people fracturing the chips.
My info is a bit old, same time... this is nothing new or to get excited about.
The coolest bit was being able to take the heat right off the chips itself, like I added an aftermarket cooler and arctic silver 5 back in the day and dropped temp by 10-15 degrees.
"No such PC" - what I've read on Thumbnail.
Retitle: "Linus attempts to reverse engineer alien technology"
From planet Chinaus
Just about everything in the Chinese home market might as well be alien technology, since the communist government bans just about everything the rest of the world enjoys so they have to engineer their own.
19:30 "and we goin to 4.6gigahertz" click BOOOOM!!!!!!
I wanted to post about this, then waited to the end and found that I was kinda right in my head:
All your success was on the first mounting plate. Ten after you removed it, you had all kinds of issues. Seems like some of the other ones they sent didn't have correct dimensions and probably caused either heat issues and / or mounting pressure issues.
"We didn't think that through..." - the new company motto of LMG/LTT
loved the edits on this one, the ???? when he poured, and the airplane, good stuff
'Genuine Intel CPU 0000'
I love that. At least the BIOS recognized it as a real CPU.
Well Its Not Worng
Oh how about upgrade cpu trun powerfull ? Not intel but AMD
Normies: gigahertz
Me, an intellectual: Jiggahertz
Gigahertz and Gif are the real truth.
"Jiggahertz and jif" are widespread false. xD
12:26.
Subbed.
EvilBaron / Tobias According to the creator it’s Jif. I know it doesn’t make sense because life isn’t fair.
The funniest one I’ve come across is “Tiggerbite” instead of “Terabyte.”
One point twenty-one Jiggahertz?
12:15 very cool hacking edit!:) thanks for another fun video
Every time I - as an non-native Englisch speaker - hear "Aluminum" my ears start bleeding ;)
technically aluminum is correct. that's the american (and first) pronunciation. the british took it and had to get stuff and make it sound like all the others, so they changed it to the -ium ending. but, that said... the british pronunciation has been around so long, it's also correct now, too. anyway...
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd no, aluminium makes my ears bleed. lol xD
but really, for probably exactly the same reason (the way i learned it first) one sounds right to me, and the other sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
Yes, "aluminum" and "febuary". :)
@@jeschinstad lol feb-yoo-wary... i mean it's literally how everyone ever says it...
@@tzxazrael Precisely what I was going to type. Why do people complain about "aluminum" ending with -um and not "platinum" or "molybdenum?" Both versions of aluminum/ium would considered correct these days.
Handles new motherboard and CPU without static protection.
I think that CPU should be posting a certain Simpsons bus meme.
Anal much?
I'm in danger
Hey Linus, got an idea for you... Why don't you get some atomized colloidal copper powder. Place a small pile of it on you chip, clamp down your cooling solution (periodically backing the screws out a quarter turn, and shimmying the cold plate a little, to even out the powder distribution), then carefully hit all for sides with a heat gun, to momentarily liquify the copper colloid. Maybe even have two people, and develope a system of one tightening down the cooling solution, while another simultaneously heat guns the copper. If you can melt that pile flat, with the cooler all the way down, that would probably be the best possible thermal conduction, and subsequent heat transfer, that would be practical for civilian (non commercial or industrial solution) use today, that is currently possible for home PC's and Laptops (although I'm sure, if scaled up, it could be developed into a commercial or industrial solution as well...) Just an idea (gets you rich remember me!!!)💡😜🤪 ...L8r 👍
"bad ideas" seems like an appropriate username for that test bench lol
HA! I saw that, too. Love it.
"We no spy factory. We good factory. USA USA!" - Chinese chipshop slogan 2019
Reminds me of the AMD Barton days..
Anyway I'd be interested in one such 'laptop' cpu with lots of memory support that would sip power..
"Did you take the sticker off the bottom?" lol the best line hehe
I've heard of these for YEARS. I've always wondered, though, since I've never owned one.
Listening to Vulfpeck, ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
This was a video "the likes of which I have never seen ... anything quite like." [edit:]... PS: ever found yourself wondering, "What on earth is this big yellow hollowed-out inverted cone here, some kind of sex toy or medical instrument?" This problem never happens here at LMG due to our labeling policy! In all seriousness, cool video! Didn't know that was a thing at all.
but you know what isnt a mystery...
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''I'm early''
''-says every earlybird ever''
'-RUclips 2019, quotes
Forynsix and so did You
360p gAnG
Everything is a mystery with Linus
@Not888 Like this Segway! Glasswire!
Linus itself is a mystery 😂
best video you have done to date,,,, you should do a video over clocking the 386 dx would love to see that one
If someone can make a montage of all the times Linus says "heeeeey" I would be very very satishfied
That's how Sean Connery says satisfied....
@@DanceySteveYNWA R.I.P me
don't forget "Aaaaand"
@@DanceySteveYNWA Learn how to spell first.
@@Lousy_Bastard and which word do you refer?
“Of course, if we were gonna be rendering all day and we had 150$ to spend, we would just go for a Core i5 8400 or something like that with six cores…”
Well, I do hope you would go with something other like that when you’d want to game at a relatively low price point. If I recall correctly, you yourself were pretty clear that a Ryzen 5 is better in heavily multithreaded tasks and at least close in most other scenarios.
My ryzen cost less and is more powerful than my i5-8400
i mean... Intel has been "the one" for so long. it's going to take time to get used to AMD actually being a viable competitor again after so long. Plus intel has basically been sitting on its ass for years, not really doing anything because they didn't have to. so, will AMD's current reign even be able to last very long? i mean, who knows, either way competition is good. let's hope they both stay competitive for everyone's benefit.
now we need someone to come up and mess with Nvidia... do something to start clawing high-end gfx card prices down...
@@tzxazrael I just got a 5700xt, better deal than Nvidias closest gpu. You can get up to like 140$ worth of stuff from the free game you get and such
@@Ckcdillpickle i mean, i got some free games with my RTX 2080, probably at least the same retail value... but that doesn't mean any of the games are ones i actually WANT or play... so that's hardly an effective bonus. (also; bought in summer '18 or so, when there was nothing even close, or i might have tried something like 5700xt)
Loved the odd "can-do-better" extra frames there 6:50
*2019: Linus "AAAAAAAAAAAAND it's gone!"*
Me: Is that a South Park reference?
this would have been a perfect stress test for those reusable graphine cooler pads.
since there is no way they could make full contact they would have to spread the heat to the edges where the shim is.