One small note regarding similar monitors showing different colors even after calibration: Just as the quality of the monitor plays a role, so does the quality of the calibrating device! I have a Dell and a Philips monitor and was never able to get even a close match with my Huey Pro (same issue as mentioned in the video, one was too yellow), but after biting the bullet and upgrading to a Color Munki Photo they appear pretty much identical, and prints done with a cheap (but calibrated!) Canon MFC using cheap inks on cheap paper actually matches the monitors! Now, I am completely aware of the slew of issues that I can run into with this approach (the images start fading after a few days in direct sunlight) but it works very well for evaluating a specific image at a specific print size together with the client before sending the file to a high-end lab, especially for black and white prints (the cheap inks usually caused horrible prints with awful green tints).
There's good reason why printlab's use sRGB instead of Pro Photo. sRGB is going to match output far more likely than Pro Photo, which is a theoretical color profile that contains colors not even visible to the human eye, let alone monitor. Printing gradients from Pro Photo gives inkjet printers noise/banding problems because color transitions are usually extreme at pixel level. Monitors are capable of producing far more color than any inkjet printer and sRGB is a much bigger color profile than the entire CMYK space, minor exception being pure C,M,Y,K.
I really am having a hard time understanding this. I create an image in Lightroom and/or Photoshop and apply my printers ICC profile and it looks different. How am I supposed to compensate so it looks like I originally wanted it to?
What about printing? Does it make sense to edit your pictures in let's say profoto rgb if the lab only handles srgb and their printers can't print your out of gamut colors?
My lab offers me an icc profile. Do I need to download that to my computer? I know I need to calibrate my monitor but do I need to download the lab's icc profile and if so when do I convert my photo to that? Print profiles and monitor calibration are two different things correct? I'm very confused!
You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.
What a cracking insight. Youre the Richard Fenyman of the photographic world. Bravo
A truly professional presentation. Great visual setting and sound and of course technical info! Thank you so much.
One small note regarding similar monitors showing different colors even after calibration: Just as the quality of the monitor plays a role, so does the quality of the calibrating device!
I have a Dell and a Philips monitor and was never able to get even a close match with my Huey Pro (same issue as mentioned in the video, one was too yellow), but after biting the bullet and upgrading to a Color Munki Photo they appear pretty much identical, and prints done with a cheap (but calibrated!) Canon MFC using cheap inks on cheap paper actually matches the monitors!
Now, I am completely aware of the slew of issues that I can run into with this approach (the images start fading after a few days in direct sunlight) but it works very well for evaluating a specific image at a specific print size together with the client before sending the file to a high-end lab, especially for black and white prints (the cheap inks usually caused horrible prints with awful green tints).
Hadn't picked up the option to add an image - that's great! [Mental note: explore all tab / menu options ;) ] Thanks for this vid!!!
There's good reason why printlab's use sRGB instead of Pro Photo. sRGB is going to match output far more likely than Pro Photo, which is a theoretical color profile that contains colors not even visible to the human eye, let alone monitor. Printing gradients from Pro Photo gives inkjet printers noise/banding problems because color transitions are usually extreme at pixel level.
Monitors are capable of producing far more color than any inkjet printer and sRGB is a much bigger color profile than the entire CMYK space, minor exception being pure C,M,Y,K.
I really am having a hard time understanding this. I create an image in Lightroom and/or Photoshop and apply my printers ICC profile and it looks different. How am I supposed to compensate so it looks like I originally wanted it to?
What about printing? Does it make sense to edit your pictures in let's say profoto rgb if the lab only handles srgb and their printers can't print your out of gamut colors?
My lab offers me an icc profile. Do I need to download that to my computer? I know I need to calibrate my monitor but do I need to download the lab's icc profile and if so when do I convert my photo to that? Print profiles and monitor calibration are two different things correct? I'm very confused!