Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy Review: Neon Ripper | 2022 Value Bike Field Test
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Specialized is known for making quality mountain bikes with high-end price tags. The Stumpjumper Alloy, however, brings the geometry and kinematics from the top-spec builds and packages them into a budget-oriented bike.
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00:33 - Bike Overview
01:15 - Climbing
03:03 - Descending
05:38 - Components
07:10 - Timing
07:55 - Models
09:15 - Pros
09:46 - Cons
10:06 - Verdict
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Nothing like getting up at 5am for a trail ride and getting done only to see a new pinkbike video up. Awesome
Dawn Patrol?
How do you see anything on the trails at that time?
@@morbly Totally, the early bird catches the worm
@@rolux4853 by the time I ride it's starting to get sunny
@@davidwangeman11 ah okay!
If I’d be in my local forest at 5am I wouldn’t see my own handlebars.
Only at the height of summer it would be possible to ride at that time in Germany.
This bike is a steal right now. Got mine for $2100. I didn’t find it reasonable to original $2800. But for $700 off it’s a great budget bike. And you can upgrade as you go!
Almost bought this, so glad I went one model up with the Comp alloy
I have this model and got it back in 2021 when it was $2200. I originally was trying to get a SC Tallboy but the waiting time was like a year out at the time. I settled on the lower end Stumpy because I was like I’ll get a Tallboy once they are in stock and then sell the Stumpy off. But to be honest, I actually have ended really liking the stumpy and love specialized customer service even more. My rear wheel kept giving out and they covered it and upgraded it an MTB I30 e bike wheel. Nothing fancy but it’s just the fact that they did something to correct an issue which I really appreciated. A year later and the bike has been great. I ride the bike pretty hard and it’s been holding up great. The only thing that I would upgrade at this point on mine would be the rear suspension and the brakes. Love the bike other than that!! I’m still getting an SC though lol. I’ll keep this bike still and rather than get a Tallboy, I’ll get a Hightower instead only because I really like the frame geo on the SCs. But all in all, because of this bike, I’m not ruling out the higher end Stumpys either.
Awesome!!
I have this alloy. I don't have much skill yet. I hear in CA folks are getting robbed at gunpoint so better not to overspend.
@@stevemurray710 wow! That’s crazy that people are doing that out there.
@@myong9 they'll follow people home if the see a nice bike on the rack. The Berkeley CA high school mountain bike team van lost a Santa Cruz and more as per a news video. Students and teachers bikes.
I bought this exact model on sale for 2,200 bucks and immediately upgraded the suspension to a Fox 36 Grip X and a Factory Float X. The point is, it's a great way to get started and still have room to upgrade as your skills improve. I highly recommend it for that reason alone-the important thing is that it gets you out on the trails!
Crazy how prices went up. I have a 2016 alloy Stumpjumper and paid $3k after taxes. It came with a full GX group, Shimano Deore brakes, Fox 34 Performance Elite fork and Fox DPS rear shock.
Specialized seems to be one of the worst offenders for this!
That same year I got a Devinci Troy with GX groupset, Rockshox Pike, also deore brakes and a RS monarch at the back. It costed me USD 2,950 in Peru. "Value bikes" nowadays are crazy.
A lot of pretty ordinary spec getting around ATM. Esp crap forks and the SX drivetrain. Merida here in Australia are killing everything, spec for the money.
Same story here. Got my SC Bronson alloy (sram GX group, Fox 36 perf) for 3.3k back in 2019. Carbon option was 1k more. Now they only offer the carbon option, starting at 5.3k with sram NX group. Looks like almost a 2k increase from a few years ago!
I was interested in a bike two years ago; it has gone up 1600.00. It really sucks. I am into backpacking and skiing and I have not seen any crazy price increases. I think they are just taking advantage of the bad situation.
I got this bike as a beginner, over time and experience I put carbon wheels and handlebars, GX 12 speed drivetrain, Fox 34 fork in 150/DPX2 shock, XT brakes and a Transfer dropper and now it's amazing. Very accurate review.
I purchased this bike 2 weeks ago, and I am glad you guys finally did a review on it. I gotta say as my first full suspension bike I am not disappointed with my purchase at all. For me, the bike is more than I need right now, which is great in that it allows room for improvement in my skill level. Tires have been great, I haven't noticed any issues with shifting or the brakes (but like I said this is my first FS bike), and the geometry feels great. The only bad things I have to say about the bike are: 1) the rear shock seems pretty lousy. It is an X-Fusion 02 Pro RL and honestly it is hard to tell the difference between the locked out and open position. and 2) the overall weight of the bike is significant. I don't notice it much on climbs but mostly just moving it around in the garage - its a beast.
I have one, give it 9 months…
I’m now looking to upgrade to an enduro
Do U upgrade the rear shock?? I'm looking for suggestion.
I just upgraded my front fork on my 2021 stumpy and plan on going with the fox dpx2 in the rear, the fox up front definitely gives more confidence on the trails but I'm still messing around with the settings
So glad you posted that about the rear suspension. I have the same bike in the 2020 version. It is my first, as well, and i was not sure if it was "just me" but it doesn't seem to matter where the switch is, it feels the same. measured out the 30% slack and still - Nothing. Want to upgrade but wasn't sure where to begin. I see thehigsy said in the comments the dpx2 might be a worthwhile upgrade. might look into that this spring.
@@jerryicecream5682 did you upgrade? Please share what you got? Thanks
I remember my first Stumpjumper, V-brakes, all rigid, 26er. It was the coolest bike I had seen... That was 1992.
I have a 2005 version.....but just bought a Stump Jumper Pro carbon......amazing bike
Me too! Same year... mine was olive green with yellow decals and cool as fuck.
And if you show up on the trail with it today, it is cool once again, for a different reason!
my 1st stumper was in 98' .. It was a 'Comp' model which was the 2nd to the top model of 3 and it cost $1200 in 1998 which seemed like a lot of money at the time but it was completely worth it!
I loved the bike and kept it for 15 yrs riding it all over the USA, especially down Colorado and California mountains.
I eventually upgraded all of the components with Deore XRT and other awesome goodies because the frame was amazing, very rigid and super lightweight and was handmade in California .. MX2 metal matrix if I remember correctly. Your comment made me flashback to that time and bike, before that bike I had a specialized rockhopper that was stolen by a crackhead at EMB center in San Francisco. the amazing Stumpjumper, an iconic masterpiece
Just got this bike, it is my first full suspension bike and it is amazing. I have been riding everyday only one crash.
Thanks Team for keeping it real, honest and true. Great review, thank you! Kindly, Dennis
I got this bike early 2021. I love it this bike has made it through me being a casual rider only doing green and blue trails to my first ride ending in the hospital to me racing XC to my first black line to me now doing enduro and It has held up great
Time for Commencal Meta TR 2022 field test !!! Can’t wait!! 🔥🔥🔥
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Very good review , I have a KSL and Stumpy Evo , this review told me more about my stumpy Evo then the stumpy alloy which is a great way of realising where the evo and carbon stumpy sit against the alloy
I bought SJ 2020 alloy and I’m loving it! Upgrading it slowly and getting some new parts. I have changed fork for Pike Ultimate, upgraded BB and rear mech for GX. Using semi metallic pads and can’t complain about the brakes to be honest. I always wanted to have Specialized bike and now am happy with it!
Is it worth it to upgrade the fork?
@@kenwong7404 why should it not be? It is always worth to upgrade parts ;)
Thanks for great info, I'm looking at getting back into mtb riding after a 20yr brake, this is one of the bikes I'm looking at so it's nice to get some opinions :)
I owned 2021 Stumpjumper Alloy which I bought from LBS and loved everything about it.
Extremely capable and Solid bike.
Feels little heavy on the climbs but BB upgrade can save you a pound.
Tires may also shave off half a pound but overall great geometry and gorgeous bike.
I had S3 Orange...very good looking bike.
As a lifelong AZ & UT rider, I really felt Levy’s comment on traction. I need to spend more time in the NW
I'm waiting to watch the hardtail reviews on these rocky trails.... yeeeech
Hey thanks for the stumpy alloy reveiw i actually bought the 2021 in september and have made alot of upgrades suspension is next but new sram g2 rs brakes new i9 wheels and hydra hubs with a gx drive train and its an amazeing to bike to shred. Again thanks for the reveiw and you guys and gals rock
This is almost exactly what I'm looking to do with mine. Glad to see someone else upgraded, and didn't just "go buy a better bike" - which seems to be the main feedback on the web.
@@overcookedmtb2047 thanks and i recomend the upgrades. I enjoy the upgrade part and getting what i want on my bike and i am still an aluminium lover. Also i didnt add i put on an I9 40mm stem and Trail One 35mm rise carbon bars
I also put same brakes and drive train on my 2021 alloy. Back shock comes tmrw lol next is i9s we share the same vision lol
@@tylereaston8263 I've been working on my DT update this weekend and it's been such a mess. I'll do a recap video soon. Congrats on your upgrade. What DT did you upgrade too? What brakes?
@@overcookedmtb2047 I put a full gx drive train and sram g2 rs brakes. I also increased rotor sizes by 20 mm. I get the rock shock monarch plus rc3 tommorow for it :) fingers crossed it fits
Been thinking about getting this bike. Polygon T8 is something else I’m liking as well. Talking of polygon. The D7 would be interesting to see you guys ride and your views. Anyway great review on the stumpy thanks 💪👍
After riding this bike, I couldn’t get over a few key things like 1) the suspension and 2) the overall spec. I knew that I’d be looking to get rid of the suspension and the brakes asap. Plus it felt like to limiting if a bike given that my skill level isn’t beginner, I had been riding a hardtail for a while. I really wanted the version above this but didn’t have the money. I bought a 2021 YT Jeffsy and waited four months. I made my choice due to the more playful nature of the YT and the spec on YT is basically the same as the carbon Stumpy and I was able to get a 27.5” version, although it is heavier than carbon. But I’m so happy with my choice! Experienced riders should not look at this alloy stumpy, but it would serve as a great beginner for someone who’s needing that first while of riding to really learn how to ride in the first place
The guy from beta mtb should get pink bike to do their reviews sitting outside drinking a beer. More fun to watch and more fun for them.
Soon to be behind a pay wall pink bike....I will miss you guys. A pay wall is a nogo wall.
very nice cilor and strongbuild frame, thats my Dream Bike)))
Bought this bike summer 2020 for 2K the month it came out and I’ve spent a lot of time on it. I ended up upping the travel on the suspension to 150 on the original fork and this year I bought a fox 36 and Marzocchi coil for it. Brakes, dropper, and rims hold up well to long days of abuse (I’ve used this bike at a small DH park 4 times). Biggest drawbacks are definitely the suspension and the groupset (crank broke off the bottom bracket after a year) if you want to start pushing the bike at higher speeds and doing features. Back then it was a good deal but with it costing over $2,700 and the bike not getting any better parts since a while now, I’m not sure it’s the best deal anymore.
*This is only my opinion
I know they are two different breeds of bike designs but I opted for the 2022 Fuse Expert Hardtail over the base Stumpy alloy road both just felt more at home with the fuse over the stumpy granted my previous bike was a 96 Rockhopper full rigged 🥶.
Got this 21 alloy back when it was 2900 in oct 2020. Changed fork to revelation, shock to deluxe ultimate and BB to dub gx cranks. Brakes aren't that bad could be better. Still under comp price now.
Good to see Palmer rotating in
I definitely recommend spending the extra grand on the Comp level SJ. I owned one for a few months while I waited for my Carbon Expert SJ and it was a very solid rig. The basic Rhythm 34 is a great fork and I actually prefer the simpler adjustments vs my new bike's 34 Performance Elite (which is a better performing fork, but too I like the sweep adjust compression adjuster on the Rhythm).
I do like the snappier feel of my carbon flex stays, but the horst link rear end is a bit better on technical, loose climbs. The rear wheel tracks the ground better.
This model is being bought for the frame. Full stop. People with the budget should be getting the Comp or planning a couple upgrades from derailleur to brakes to even shock, etc.
I bought the comp one and I’m very happy with it I’m going to upgrade the forks from 140mm to 150mm it’s a awesome bike
This is true- I bought one in 2019 for the frame. At the time didn't have the extra $1k for the next model up. I was able to upgrade and swap components over time. I was able to end up with a really nice build with the cost spread out over a couple years. I would recommend that route to anyone with the patience for it.
Not to mention, now I have a deep appreciation for the difference between good suspension, brakes, etc vs. bad.
@@davidr5572 Totally. It's a respectable path especially since the upcharge model is only NX, so you can more precisely pick and choose what your upgrades are, even if it ends up being the same prices or even a touch more. Maybe a GX derailleur instead of NX. You can also even throw on a Deore 12sp mech and it works, saving a bunch of money compared to a GX upgrade.
There are many ways to go about it, but I just feel bad for people spending this kind of cheddar and thinking "this is what 2500+$ of brakes, suspension, and shifting feels like... And that's just such a bad precedent. And to those people I casually outstretch my arm in the direction of Giant and Polygon lol
Wish they would sell the base stumpjumper frame so I can build my own. I just want the frame! Let me put my own shimano groupset on it, not a fan of SRAM
@@AM-yb1ez Yep. Not sure what they would price it at but I think that's what the base model is really for. Since you'll probably be okay with the stem and bars and headset and wheels. Just sell all the garbage you don't want and replace it. I assume they wouldn't want it to cannibalize the EVO sales, and the price would be similar, so those are the two options. Just grab the EVO, or buy this model and try to offset costs by selling the crap :/
Great review looking at buying a stumpjumper pro but it comes with sram g2 rsc brakes are they a good brake? 🤔 Or is shimano better running shimano xt on my old bike
Review or comparison against the status 140/160?
Awesome video! I live in Tucson, can you name the actual trails you used? Looks like maybe out in Starr Pass, but I don’t recognize anything. Thanks!!
It’s so weird seeing Ryan from bike mag sitting with Mike, it’s more hilarious but man the vibes haha
Those two people really slow Levy down, which is a shame!
I love his ways and enthusiasm and those two Snorelaxes keep pulling him down..
Wake up and have fun!
I got one 2020 as my first MTB and it was great but coming from Motocross I sent the bike a lot and bottomed it out a ton the sx drivetrain was honestly just plain bad for me I had messed up a little but the bike feels great I defined would recommend but I feel their are better options out their
Would assume it's far easier to tune the rear shock on the aluminum horst link. Also, 130mm on a 45mm stroke shock is just "off." There's a 60mm stroke Spot Mayhem at 130mm of travel that might seem "off" as well. But, that said, the geo is pretty good from what I'm hearing and seeing. Not sure about bottom bracket height. But, should be a good long-term value based on the geo alone.
I bought mine in 2021, its completely custom now though, every part has been changed except the seat post and handlebars.
I ride a 2015 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR COMP EVO and it's soo well equipped and I bought it second hand for less than 1k€, it has a Rockshox Revelation 150mm and Fox Float CTD Evolution shock with 150mm and Deore 4 piston 203mm and 180mm brakes, only downside is that it's a 2× drivetrain but I don't mind, got it for under 1k€!
Hey Pinkbike, would you choose this stumpy over the polygon siskiu T8?
Bought my SJ in 2021, Comp model, seems the only difference for 2022 is the color of the frame. What is a very unpleasant surprise is how the bike now costs literally 24% more than what I paid for it an year ago.
At right around 2k this bike is pretty good for what it is and actually a better buy than the comp in the long run, as I would use the saving now towards getting a better rear shock, gx drive train, shimano mt or sram code r brakes and eventually a fox 36 front to spec it properly.
fox 34 the 36 isnt gonna match too well. You should consider a Fox Float X Performance for your rear shock
4:51 that Cholla leg smack. Ouch!
I have a 2021 stumpy alloy, my complaints with it are right where they said. Brakes and suspension. Brakes are very under powered and with me being a 250Lbs+, I could really have a more power setup on the Brakes. Suspension is rather soft for me but that's probably because of my weight. The SX drivetrain I do find sloppy at times. On the street it's fine but once on the trail and trying to down shift on a climb, it just becomes very clunky. I would like to upgrade everything to something like you would see on the Evo but then I may as well just sell mine and buy the carbon Evo. But at the same time, I'd rather not have a carbon bike.
Got one of these and upgraded almost all the parts on it. Definitely get the Comp version or better.
now you need to upgrade the frame for the "SWAT" storage space 😁
@@IIISentorIII Bought a 2021 carbon frame last year and moved everything over. Love the SWAT box.
@@Ryuk1138 Wow really. That is so awesome! I have the Carbon Comp model in white and the SWAT Box is amazing, have all the tubeless repair-kit in it and at least on banana when I'm riding :D
Happy riding!
Bought carbon comp slx for £3500 in 2021. Awesome bike!
Got my Carbon Comp in white for 3200 Euro 10 month ago in Switzerland.
*Dream Bike!*
My dream bike I'm gonna aim for it
If you can, aim for the comp model. I know its a bit harsh to say but the comp is literally 300% better compared to the entry. But I hope you get the bike you want my friend and I'm so happy for you if you can get it!
Cheers :)
I've never had a problem with the brakes but I do agree with the drive train, needs upgrade
Even though this claim is unfounded and I may be a fool for thinking this, I worry about the long term reliability of a flex stay with the carbon possibly accumulating fatigue over time. The horst link pivot may not feel as snappy, but it gives me better peace of mind
Unfortunately that piece of mind is false..
Carbon has a much better longterm elasticity than aluminum.
Aluminium looses it’s elasticity pretty fast compared to Carbon if you bend it again and again.
A good proof for this are 90s aluminum mtb frames.
Lots of them have developed cracks at the points where they get stressed the most, ie headtube and chainstays.
Steel bike do not have this problem since they are much more elastic/flexible.
Of course the resin used in carbon can and will harden out over time too, but aluminum is much worse when it comes to its limit in elasticity.
Apply a tad too much and it’s damaged forever.
The boarder between an elastic and a permanent bends is very very small on aluminum.
Aircraft wings are made from carbon fibre - just think how much flexing they have to do!
@@rolux4853 Both have their flaws, once carbon cracks and it will its toast. There are different levels of both carbon and aluminum as well.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 "and it will " thats total BS my friend.
@@IIISentorIII ?
I have a s2 2021 alloy and absolutely love it! Only beef i have had is trying to upgrade the back shock. I have tried 3 different shocks on it and can keeps hitting frame.... o and I went through 2 powerspline bottom brackets in the first month...
What shocks are you using? I put rockshox deluxe ultimate and fit fine
I tried that but shop ordered wrong one. Ordered a. Earing mount. I tried a fox x2 and a ohlins ttx air. As well as a xane creek dbair 2. Having a hard time getting shocks in canada. Stupid restrictions on shipping suspension hete.....
Please use another color on the Numbers on the geometry when displaying the bike in the start of the video. Red is very hard to read towards a dark background
Assuming the prices are the same, would the cannondale habit 4 (2022) be a better value bike?
I bought this bike in 2021. It’s my first full suspension bike. I’m absolutely loving the switch, but what is the deal with the xs drive train. It’s complete garbage, shifts like crap and I’m constantly adjusting it. I’ve taken it to multiple bike shops for adjustment thinking maybe they know how to fix it. Nope.
Man the amount of info that Beta testers give vs PinkBike testers is astounding. Palmer hasn’t always been my favorite beta tester but damn is he a breathe of fresh air over here - Edit for context: superboost.. lol
Beta- MTB nerds, PinkBike- MTB bros. Ones group is gonna give better reviews and one group is gonna make more fun content
Was hoping the revision of the sx rear derailleur would improve things. Bummer 😕...
It’s amazing seeing Levy in the Fieldtests, he is what makes them fun!
Unfortunately those two Snorelaxes beside him totally drag him down..
Guys it’s nothing against you, just cheer up and have fun!
You have the best job in the world, so please act like it!
I don’t want this Beta Takeover ruin Levy, that would be the end of amazing Pinkbike videos, so please don’t act like it’s a boring 9-5 office.
If I’d really wanna see bored faces I’d drive to my office instead of working from home.
I agree. They have the best job in the world and they just don't see to be happy there. I would replace them for someone with a more better screen presence.
Have you ever considered that just because they dont throw around emotional buzzwords, they still have feelings like everyone else? You're being the cliche PinkBike User that complains about everything that isnt exactly like he wants it.
Oh and that they dont make weird grimasses and have moderate, professional things to say rather than "tHiS biKe jUsT sUcKs!!" makes this whole series watchable. The Enduro Test about the GT Force last year was just embarrassing for an adult to watch.
That's not really fair - some people are more comfortable in front of a camera so kudos for them for fronting up. As long as their feedback is constructive, I don't really care!
Hei, I got this one, superb with what cost
Why would you say the power spline bottom bracket prevents upgrades in the future? I would assume you just also upgrade to the better bottom bracket with new cranks or am I missing something?
Yeah, a $20 part shouldn't hold anyone back from upgrading!
7:48 No knee pads in Tuscon!? Livin on the wild side
Will the adjustable angle headset of the Stumpjumper "EVO" fit into the Stumpy Alloy?
That's Good idea
@@THRENO82 unfortunately doesnt work...
HG vs XD hub, doesn't that just allow a 10 tooth in the cassette? I don't go fast enough to need a 10. Not sure if it makes sense to knock the HG (hyperglide?).
Hg will need to be converted to xd to use any modern eagle drive trains.
@@bustatron I don't think the derailleur cares. So you can put a lot of x01 stuff on this stumpjumper but not the 10 to 52 cassette. 11-50 ain't so bad. I'm not a mechanic though, unsure.
@@stevemurray710 the cassette is about the best part of eagle IMO.
I prefer the hg 12 speed sx and nx cassettes.. heavy yes, but they shift awesome and only $100 vs $300+ for pretty much any XD cassette... And as the wheels are cheap on this bike, upgrade buy a set of hunts which can run an XD or HG freehub body. Yes hg can do 12, with any eagle derailleur. I can't stress enough about the price point advantage with HG
You can mostly get lighter options with an XD, or move up to 12sp for Shimano if you get Microspline (which would be my choice). SLX cassette, Deore derailleur, XTR chain and XT shifter.
Has this bike got tubless ready tires and rims out of the box ?
yes it does.
I get the alloy comp version in a few days as a second hand, but nearly as new for a nice price and pretty nice basic. I will change the wheels, brakes, and part of the drive train... All spare parts which already exists. Later on for sure a nice damper with piggy and an mst tuning for the float 34. Originally I want to go for the evo elite... But to many month to wait and the sj comp alloy starts in Germany at 3750€...and will rise up to 4200€ next. Really that's way too much for an alloy bike with this components! Such a shame that most of the companies only do good spec on carbon bikes.. Thatsl needs to end!
Is this bike orange or red/pink?
The color looks more pinkish in person also; not for everyone.
Sounds like alot of the negative are on the components, would it be a good idea to get the frame alone and build it up with better components
I did. I love tje geometry and the look of my bike in all black. Changed components to gx. Might change out fork but for what I use it for its awesome. My main complaint is weight but in florida trails does everything I need it to do. I ride atleast once a week. 8 to 16 miles a week beginner to advanced trails with no issues.
Just go with the Comp model ( Alloy or Carbon) and you will be fine :))
@@carloscampos3684 Awesome, sounds like some nice upgrades!
What tyre do you use?
I have the Ground Control T7 and Fast Trak T5 and Tubeless and those roll so much faster and are lighter!
I think there is a Bike RUclipsr from Florida (Clint Gibbs) that also knows what he is talking about :)
Cheers from Switzerland
PB should have Alicia present more videos.
We're reviewing an entry level bike at a low entry cost point.....Ryan - big time won't riders won't want this. LOL For $2600 you can get into this bike and make some upgrades. Ryan - for riders at our level, we're just used to more from our bikes. LOLOLOL Great video, I love this bike.
These SX drivetrains, the brakes etc…just spec deore 10 speed and shimano MT520 brakes and the bike will ride so much better.
And the prices, man. 3k+ for NX? My 2020 Canyon spectral has all SLX, with Fox suspension, for €2700. It’s crazy what’s going on there.
Idk why youd get this over the specialzed status
I’d get a status too, but it’s a good 4-5 pounds heavier then even this base stumpy
@@64Spokes according to the pinkbike and vitalmtb tests, the status weights 15.15kg - 15.3kg and therefore is even lighter
The status was designed for the bike park. The SJ is designed to be a trail bike. Sure you can use either for both but. The bikes will function better for their intended uses.
@@ericdunthorne1981 ahhh makes sense
At this pricepoint you are better off buying used bike. Also that would contribute second hand market to have more good bikes because used expensive bikes would sell more easily
I got gx drive train SC Bronson C for 3k not too long ago. Positives it's nice and was "cheap" , negatives it's hard to tell what damage previous owners have done. Check every damn bolt and screw if you buy used.
Personally I think that buying a fuse is much better value (obviously because it’s a hardtail) and that for most entry level riders it is vital to start riding on a hardtail to better develop skills to not be reliant on full suspension
This sounds like a great frame specced with very basic components. The next model is up is over $5,000 in Australia so it's a bit too pricey.
It's literally not a great frame. You have to trash the whole back frame and buy an new one just to be able to upgrade it past anything NX. NX Sram parts are still pretty low tier (which are much better than what this has), but GX (mid tier level) or higher will not work on this frame. Might as well buy a new bike. This bike was made to fleece ignorant people. The other competitor frames are built from the get go to be able to upgrade for much better if you have the money. Instead of just trashing the bike and buying a new one.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 What on earth are you talking about? Of course GX stuff works on this frame. You just need to upgrade to an XD freehub for the GX cassette.
@@hambo76 Yes I do know this. But its just not as simple as putting a XD freehub in it you have to replace other parts on the frame for it to fit unlike their higher priced bikes. watching a video of a guy doing it right now maybe he can prove me wrong and has a cheaper way of doing it. I'm not perfect but I will admit I'm wrong if I am. If I am I will see this bike a little different since jumpstomper is such a good design.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Are you talking about a different bike? What video?
Got a little too close to some of those cacti 😅
A fairly negative video on what is a good bike.
What are you comparing it to, something three times the price?
PLS upload at 60FPS
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My first bike is a 2022 stumpjumper alloy base model. I dint like it. Its feels jittery and clanky. But im coming from dirt bikes
Dont quite understand, whats the prob with the hub that makes upgrading difficult?
Shimano HG freehub body. Usually it's at least difficult to change it on cheap'o hubs and nicer drivetrains use Microspline or XD drivers now
Idc how stable a bike is, now way I'm riding past a cactus at that speed 😂
I think the components don't fit the price there are lots of brands which spec wayyyyy better at this price point. Of course for a non direct seller as specialized the spec to price will be a bit lower than let's say canyon as a direct seller but the difference is massiv and isn't reasonable.
a lot of bikes seem overpriced these days...I almost went with Canyon until I realized the money I was going to save by buying direct would be put towards paying duty fees, additional taxes etc
This bike is down to ~$2k @ specialized website.
That's the reason I'm watching this. Trying to figure out if this is worth it or if I should get the evo comp that's 1700ish more
Can’t focus on the review just too confused on watching Levy with Palmer from bike mag 😵💫
They should just screw that flex stay thing on the carbon version. Springy effect is not how I wanna go over tech.
16 kgs for a 130 mm bike? is this real?!
Why buy another bike when you can just upgrade the derailleur and front suspension????
Why upgrade the derailleur and front suspesion when you can just buy another bike????
Because you improve the bike for a fraction of the cost of a new bike.
My bike comes with a powerspline bb and it is absolutely sh*t. I had it replaced and with in 3 rides the new one squeaked. And yes it was installed properly and yes the noise is the bb.
I was under the impression that replacing it with the threaded dub setup and SX cranks is not too expensive. I'm waiting for somebody to post the how to video. For now I just heard that the powerspline is heavy.
Specialized just does these surprises. At first it doesn't look antthing special (pun intended), then it's somehow the fastest. Like the Demo. How they win against high pivot dh bikes is beyond me, but they can do it.
Not trying to be that guy BUT. " We're used to $8000 bikes... This bike just doesn't cut it.. The suspension and brakes just aren't as good as what we're used to." Name some $2500 bikes that you don't hate.. lol.. I'm sorry.. you obviate know way more on bikes than me but I think you should know how you sound to some people(me).
All the hatin' aside, I love the channel.. just bustin yo balls. You guys are pretty dialed in your assessments and know your shit. Lower price points, equals compromise. Stumpjumper= bad bike. Noted
Again 90% of riders would be totally satisfied with the performance of this bike. It is prolly the best selling full suspension bike on the planet for a reason, and that is $. I have had Endruos and Stumpys since FSR became a thing. If you don't know that you need to run the sag low on a horst link rear, you don't have much experience as a bike reviewer. Most ham and eggers on bikes out there have abilities lower than the capabilities of this bike.
The build is really weak for that price! instead take a Status 140 for 3.000 € / $.
I just ordered status 140 yesterday. waiting for it to come in.
If you wanna ride a mullet
mullets are meh
@@SwyvCruxmy ocd can't handle the different wheel size! I'm I'm leaning to the alloy or evo alloy. Even though it 99% to much bike for me, but I love the look. I'm sure I would be fine with sisku t7 for $1500, but it's not the same feeling.
Been riding Mtb’s since the early 90’s so it’s a bit annoying that bikes like this are called entry level. It’s just what I can afford. And wow, my early bikes were worlds away from this bike but still mega!
It’s the low end of the high end. It’s all relative
Throw a XTR shifter on that bike and watch the sram sx come alive
first you go XT Shifter not XTR and second it has a SX fail derailleur that is the problem and what you need is Deore or SLX ;)
7:36 I do not like cactus
lol imagine falling into that?
Me too
Christ looks like the two guys are holding the girl hostage
maybe came to close to a cactus!?
From dirtbag to dentist 😂😂
Get a polygon t8.
Let's test our bikes in a very specific place very unlike most of the world.
I could buy x4 of the car i'm driving for the price of this cycle.
cool another bike you can't fucking buy anywhere awesome
"Testers abuse, physical and verbal"
Ugh why Tucson?
The desert is fucked.
There is something about trying to avoid rattlesnakes and also javelina's chasing you that make trail riding there pretty interesting lol. It does not compare though to northern Arizona or the north west part of the United States though. Tucson does have its own charm though.