Great that you’re looking into this recorder! Love to hear about the noise levels AND the ‘choice’ of 24 bit in stereos, vs mono. Is stereo an afterthought? How’s the noise and audio performance of the stereo (24bit) recording? My usage would be mainly urban field recording with loads of dynamics. Oh and hows this lav? The previous version of their lav was disappointing? Is this a new version of the lav?
I could be wrong but I think the switch on top is mentioned on their product page. I believe this explains what it does. MIC PASS THRU The PR-2 features a toggle switch on the top that allow you to pass the microphone PiP from the output thru to the input. This means you can daisy chain the PR-2 with a transmitter so you can add recording functionality to any transmitter you might own. This also means even if the PR-2 is turned off, the transmitters PiP is still passing thru to power your lavalier.
PR-2 Locking / Unlocking is done by triple clicking the yellow button on the side. This is similar to the TC-1 which also need the side button triple clicked.
Will the record button disable if you lock it? As in, you initiate recording on the device, then lock it. It cannot stop recording unless unlocked, correct ? Otherwise I’d still be worried about an accidental stop to recording by the wearer.
@@jarrodbarker When locked, the record button and power button are disabled until the power button is triple-clicked again. Your talent won't be able to stop the recording by accident.
I dont have any deity products but im thinking to get intos that ecosystem, i use a eos R8, i saw in the camara menus that timecode its an option, so the stupid obvious question is, if 8 buy the PR-2 i kust have to jam into the camera and the timecode will be set? Or do i need to do something else?
Thank you Curtis. This looks awesome! I've been looking for a 32 bit float wearable that can replace my little Tascam. Would this do as a 32 bit float back up recorder for a compact phone rig? Was thinking it'd be a good companion to my Sony Xperia 1 VI which has all the features of a DSLR including an audio out port (and a shutter button...and micro sd). Do you think this could be a mini external recorder for a rig like that which gives a 32 bit float backup? I think the phone can receive audio as well as send so perhaps this recorder could make the phone 32 bit float by acting as the first line of audio in. It would be great if the phone could use timecode too...wow that would really be a mini rig! If this is unsuitable, do you know of another that might achieve this? I have the Sony vlogging handle and vlogging screen plus the mini Deity dual mic. it's very compact and I'm hoping to keep it that way but still be able to add an ultra compact light and sound recorder. The phone can record directly into the mini jack and the vlogging screen also has a mini jack so I'm sure there's gonna be a way to do this. Sony are a bit crap at answering questions and are bad communicators but I will also be asking them after your sage advice...Let me know your thoughts if you are not too pressed for time. Thanks as ever, Curtis. You are one of the most giving influencers in this space. I will be returning to your courses soon, especially now you are covering DaVinci. keep it up brother and thanks to your family too. Cheers, Al x
I have been using the PR-2 jam sync with my camera, but it looks like the timecode is active only for 12h. if I turn the recorder off and then power it back up in between the timecode is back to all zero after 12h. the wireless mic pro still goes, just like the camera. With my setup, I am not interested in a Deity TC-1
The Rode Wireless Pro is not a true timecode device. It must always be communicating the TX and RX to constantly jam sync. This device can work as a standalone recorder with no need to have constant communication with another device. The tentacle track e devices would be the closest competition. They, however, don’t have a screen so it’s mandatory to use the phone app to know what’s happening and the gain I believe only goes up to +9dBu which to me is limiting.
It depends on what I'm recording and in what context. Voice for a person moving all over the place? Probably the PR-2. Seated interviews with a boom mic? F3 all the way.
I’d find it very difficult to believe they’re not as timecode accurate as the TC-1, considering they generate timecode and the competition, Rode Wireless Pro, is also stated to be as accurate as the TC-1.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions just shot a wedding film with them. They worked awesome. I have 6… probably more than is needed lol, but can you ever have enough professional audio? Still want to run some tests before I broadly recommend, but so far it looks very promising.
cool... Right now when mobile I use my Rode Wireless Pro to record audio twice once lavalier and at the same time attached to the mic near the camera. Once my batteries die maybe the Deity PR-3 :-) release TBD. I like the replaceable batteries on the PR-2. We newbies get Rode/DJI fixated.
@@jannarkiewicz633 I don’t like the Rode Pros because the timecode is reliant on the wireless communication with the RX unit. I have a set of GO II and they’ll be put up for sale soon locally. I never use them.
why can’t anyone with an early unit answer the most interesting questions i’ve watched like 4 of these: 1. how far is the bluetooth monitoring range in reality? real world testing. 2. can you bluetooth monitor the audio to headphones while recording? 3. on the US unit - as soon as you hit record on the device the 3.5 headphone output cuts off? very unclear by the site and reviewers but even this doesn’t happen on their theos lavs.
First, you might try using a friendlier tone, rather than an exasperated tone. 😀 1) Depends on a million factors, but 250' is a reasonable estimate in my experience. 2) Yes, you can monitor via the Sidus Audio app while recording on the US version 3) Yes, on the US version, as soon as recording starts, the output jack stops sending audio.
Thank Curtis for this DETAILED & INFORMATIVE video.
Great that you’re looking into this recorder! Love to hear about the noise levels AND the ‘choice’ of 24 bit in stereos, vs mono. Is stereo an afterthought? How’s the noise and audio performance of the stereo (24bit) recording? My usage would be mainly urban field recording with loads of dynamics. Oh and hows this lav? The previous version of their lav was disappointing? Is this a new version of the lav?
Subjectively, noise levels are good with the included mono W.Lav pro. Overall sounds pretty good - will have the full review out in the next few days.
Thanks for the hint on BDS and separate power banks.
You bet!
I could be wrong but I think the switch on top is mentioned on their product page. I believe this explains what it does. MIC PASS THRU
The PR-2 features a toggle switch on the top that allow you to pass the microphone PiP from the output thru to the input. This means you can daisy chain the PR-2 with a transmitter so you can add recording functionality to any transmitter you might own. This also means even if the PR-2 is turned off, the transmitters PiP is still passing thru to power your lavalier.
Thanks - true for the NON US version. 👍
PR-2 Locking / Unlocking is done by triple clicking the yellow button on the side. This is similar to the TC-1 which also need the side button triple clicked.
Thanks. That's not very intuitive.
Will the record button disable if you lock it? As in, you initiate recording on the device, then lock it. It cannot stop recording unless unlocked, correct ? Otherwise I’d still be worried about an accidental stop to recording by the wearer.
@@jarrodbarker That's correct. 👍
@@jarrodbarker When locked, the record button and power button are disabled until the power button is triple-clicked again. Your talent won't be able to stop the recording by accident.
So I can use the PR-2 to set the timecode on a Sony FX6?
Yes
I dont have any deity products but im thinking to get intos that ecosystem, i use a eos R8, i saw in the camara menus that timecode its an option, so the stupid obvious question is, if 8 buy the PR-2 i kust have to jam into the camera and the timecode will be set? Or do i need to do something else?
Thank you Curtis. This looks awesome! I've been looking for a 32 bit float wearable that can replace my little Tascam. Would this do as a 32 bit float back up recorder for a compact phone rig? Was thinking it'd be a good companion to my Sony Xperia 1 VI which has all the features of a DSLR including an audio out port (and a shutter button...and micro sd). Do you think this could be a mini external recorder for a rig like that which gives a 32 bit float backup? I think the phone can receive audio as well as send so perhaps this recorder could make the phone 32 bit float by acting as the first line of audio in. It would be great if the phone could use timecode too...wow that would really be a mini rig! If this is unsuitable, do you know of another that might achieve this? I have the Sony vlogging handle and vlogging screen plus the mini Deity dual mic. it's very compact and I'm hoping to keep it that way but still be able to add an ultra compact light and sound recorder. The phone can record directly into the mini jack and the vlogging screen also has a mini jack so I'm sure there's gonna be a way to do this. Sony are a bit crap at answering questions and are bad communicators but I will also be asking them after your sage advice...Let me know your thoughts if you are not too pressed for time. Thanks as ever, Curtis. You are one of the most giving influencers in this space. I will be returning to your courses soon, especially now you are covering DaVinci. keep it up brother and thanks to your family too. Cheers, Al x
I think so. Devil’s in the details, of course, but should do.
I have been using the PR-2 jam sync with my camera, but it looks like the timecode is active only for 12h. if I turn the recorder off and then power it back up in between the timecode is back to all zero after 12h.
the wireless mic pro still goes, just like the camera. With my setup, I am not interested in a Deity TC-1
Ok
Hi Curtis! Is there a way to transmit the PR2 audio to a camera, similar to the RODE wireless pro receiver/transmitters?
Not on its own, no, it is just a recorder.
Mine arrived from Gotham Sound yesterday. Will be testing them today
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Is the main competition the Rode Wireless Pro? Thank you as always!
More like the Track E.
The Rode Wireless Pro is not a true timecode device. It must always be communicating the TX and RX to constantly jam sync. This device can work as a standalone recorder with no need to have constant communication with another device.
The tentacle track e devices would be the closest competition. They, however, don’t have a screen so it’s mandatory to use the phone app to know what’s happening and the gain I believe only goes up to +9dBu which to me is limiting.
@@evanthecameraman Thank you! Good points and thank you for the clarification.
They are $240 on Gotham
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This is reminiscent of the Tascam DR-10L pro. Wonder which sounds better?
@@TeddyRumble I bet they sound very similar if using the same lav. But the PR-2 has way more features that are useful to my production.
Probably similar with the same lav, but the Tascam only supplies < 3V plugin power so it may not work well with 3rd party lavalier microphones.
They need to open-source the firmware for this, so we can bypass the Zaxcon patent trolling.
My two just arrived... I want the global version 😫
What would you pick.. Zoom f3/deity pr2 ? Help im Confuse and thank you advance
It depends on what I'm recording and in what context. Voice for a person moving all over the place? Probably the PR-2. Seated interviews with a boom mic? F3 all the way.
incredible i was just thinking about this and when will it release lol
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I’d find it very difficult to believe they’re not as timecode accurate as the TC-1, considering they generate timecode and the competition, Rode Wireless Pro, is also stated to be as accurate as the TC-1.
We'll dig into that further.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions just shot a wedding film with them. They worked awesome. I have 6… probably more than is needed lol, but can you ever have enough professional audio? Still want to run some tests before I broadly recommend, but so far it looks very promising.
@@jarrodbarker Glad to hear!
I could be wrong for America/the rest of the world, but in Australia, the Deity Lithiums are supposedly rechargeable.
Cool. Not sure about the rest of the world, but those which came with the US version are NOT rechargable.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions Thank you for the clarification. Great video Curtis!
cool... Right now when mobile I use my Rode Wireless Pro to record audio twice once lavalier and at the same time attached to the mic near the camera. Once my batteries die maybe the Deity PR-3 :-) release TBD. I like the replaceable batteries on the PR-2. We newbies get Rode/DJI fixated.
@@jannarkiewicz633 I don’t like the Rode Pros because the timecode is reliant on the wireless communication with the RX unit. I have a set of GO II and they’ll be put up for sale soon locally. I never use them.
@@evanthecameraman You do more complex audio. I have never had an issue syncing so I'm not up to to timecodes yet.
why can’t anyone with an early unit answer the most interesting questions i’ve watched like 4 of these:
1. how far is the bluetooth monitoring range in reality? real world testing.
2. can you bluetooth monitor the audio to headphones while recording?
3. on the US unit - as soon as you hit record on the device the 3.5 headphone output cuts off? very unclear by the site and reviewers but even this doesn’t happen on their theos lavs.
First, you might try using a friendlier tone, rather than an exasperated tone. 😀
1) Depends on a million factors, but 250' is a reasonable estimate in my experience.
2) Yes, you can monitor via the Sidus Audio app while recording on the US version
3) Yes, on the US version, as soon as recording starts, the output jack stops sending audio.