Jericho was doing tons of botches in WCW. I heard that when he went to the WWF, Vince shouted at him more than a few times after his matches. He realised this was a totally different place. lol He became a more safe wrestler in the WWE.
The Rey vs Eddie match has to be in the Top 5 most influential matches of all time. It basically wrote the blueprint for all modern day wrestling matches. The difference is that Rey and Eddie were also charismatic.
A month or two before they tried to do the backflip DDT but not enough momentum or Rey Mysterio slipped jumping but the 2nd time at Halloween Havoc was flawless
@@Undying3001 What he said was true, but my feeling was exactly yours as a kid seeing this PPV (I was about 12). I knew wrestling was a circus of over-the-top fights and I loved every minute of it back then.
*@Joecbg100* not the 1st guy to do it, nor the only, and Hogan sure isn't the last. Some of your favorites and mine were out there politic'n like there was no tomorrow as well
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 But the Indians haven't been to the Series since the 40s and last won the Series in 1920 I believe, many fans would have been watching
You mean "Thanks Hogan." He didn't want to take the bump & let Savage fall to the ground instead of hitting him, kind of like how he avoided taking bumps on the cage, unlike Piper.
It's said Savage would never do anything he didn't believe in but it was a big mistake. He was never the same after that, he had to change his style a lot.
Me and my friends have been trying to remember the WCW Pay-Per-View when Dusty Rhodes said "he wobble legged him" for years! Thank you for FINALLY answering our question. 😁👍
DDP has often credited this feud with Savage as being the one which elevated him to that top level. So it doesn't really matter who "won" the feud, it had the desired effect of turning DDP into a main event level talent who would go on to become a legend.
“Brother He Wobble Legged him……Did He Wobble Legged Him” 😂😂😂. Man gotta love Dusty lol he was truly one of a kind both inside the ring and outside when he cut promos 🙌🏾🤘🏾✊🏾.
Eddie’s psychology and storytelling in that mask vs title match was master class! Great video Ryan! I’ll definitely have to join Patreon! Also DDP vs Savage III was a great way to cap off their 1997 feud. P.S it was the cruiserweight title not sure why or where Hennig’s U.S Title actually was
It's still hard to understand how they didn't dominate with an all star team roster. If Heyman was in Bishoff's position, it might have been a different story.
RUclips knew this was going to be a massive upload but that won't stop Wrestling Bios from delivering the goods! Thanks WB Ryan! You're by far the best!
It was really nice to hear Rey Mysterio talk about this match vs Eddie in WWE 2k22. It's a fantastic match. Their matches against eachother really showcase their athleticism and cleverness in the ring.
This event was my all time favorite one from WCW. Halloween Havoc was legit the PPV I looked forward to the most from them because it felt like this was the only PPV throughout the year they were willing to actually try to go outside the box on.
Very telling as to the kind of performers they were when Hogan wouldn’t bump on that cage to save his life, but Macho Man will jump off the top of the gd thing to do a double axe handle
Why was Macho Man asked to take that bump would be another question. That looked like Cornette falling off the scaffold! Great show, weak main event for sure
Goldberg literally bumped into the ref while he was going after Mongo. Like seriously there had to have been so many different ways they could’ve done that ending.
It didn’t have the Bucks or Omega in it, nor did it take place in Japan. Davey’d give it 4 stars, maybe 4 and 3/4 and then he’d never pay it any kind again.
It was said Eddie was booked to win this one but he fought and refused to lose because Rey didn’t want to lose his mask yet. Ultimately Eddie and Rey figured out a good match with a good ending and it was even better than Rey losing his mask
Rey shouldn’t have ever lost his mask. I can’t even remember how/why it happened. Same w/psicosis. Only one that made sense & worked longterm was Juventud , who lost it in a good program w Jericho & became much more popular from it
Rey vs Eddie was arguably the best match to ever exist in pro wrestling, the DDP vs Savage rivalry was a classic feud one of the best of the 90s. These 2 matches here are worth the 400000 ppv buys
Havoc '97 - Starrcade '97 is the peak of WCW, and I say that as someone who considered 1992 their best year. It's all downhill after Sting didn't win clean and the nWo started morphing.
+Brian Heriot Correct. It's easy to see why WWF was taking all these wild chances on their shows at this time. WCW was literally NITRO. Explosive. How they ruined a golden opportunity with Bret Hart & Sting will always baffle me. Both have similar finishing moves. Both were tried & true emblems of their organizations only to be screwed by them. Bret & Sting should have been a team fighting the nWo. But those backstage politics. WWF saw that Starrcade weakness & knew it was time to strike. Enter Mike Tyson.
100% possibly even extending that from June '97 thru Starrcade '97. That Rodman stuff in '97 was so huge in the moment. And then heat the Luger was bringing with that WCW crowd. It's a shame the booking with Luger sort of took a nose dive after Road Wild, Bios is right. Almost could've made more sense in having a Hogan/Luger age in the cage instead of bringing back Piper as the commish.
Looking back on this in hindsight, I'm starting to see why the WWF wanted to make an industry-breaking event at Survivor Series 1997. WCW was really on fire at this time, chaotic insanity or no chaotic insanity. The chaos was part of the fun for WCW actually. They had some great mid-carders, powerfully emotional feuds, & the tension of the nWo vs. Sting always delivered. So Vince knew with Bret "The Hitman" Hart's contract soon ending, he needed that big boost to get them the eyeballs on their product. WWF had improved tremendously month after month particularly since Survivor Series 1996 & now had a seriously compelling show. But they needed that final touch to shift the axis. THAT is why they decided to do the Montreal Screwjob against Bret. The energy from that led them to the impact of Mike Tyson & Stone Cold Steve Austin a couple of months later in January 1998. And after that, WCW was on its backfoot & the competition entered a new phase. I see it all clearly now in hindsight.
I tell ya, Eddie was an amazing wrestler plain and simple. And this match between him and Ray had to be the best match. Amazing work by both superstars, both are legends. Oh and is it just me or is that cage ridiculously tall 🤣 😂.
Hennig's "US Title" was actually the Cruiserweight belt. Someone must have imperfectly forgotten his real belt at home or gotten it lost at an airport.
For some strange reason, Curt Hennig always seems to wind up with the wrong belt. In 1990, when he won the vacant Intercontinental Championship from Tito Santana, he was given a World Tag Team Championship belt...
Once I went to a wcw show when Jarret was us champion. He must've forgot his belt though because he came out with some lame belt I had never seen before. I was bummed, especially since I had brought my US title replica.
The Eddie vs Rey match was single handedly one of my favorite matches of the time. I already liked both wrestlers and loved watching their matches. But, this match skyrocketed both of them to 2 of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
Legitimately got chills just seeing the highlights and recap of Rey and Eddie and I just watched this match two days ago again after a while. One of my favorite matches of all.
The Eddie vs Mysterio bout is one of my favourite matches ever, it’s an absolute classic. Plus Saturday Wright Fever is in full affect at Halloween Havoc!
To further your note about how wrestling had become “mainstream” at this point (again), I’d point out that I believe it was around here when one prominent (American) football player scored a touchdown, and his celebration dance was literally DDP’s Diamond Cutter. So we’re talking prime-time, Monday-night football, the NFL, major stuff in the US, and those athletes were pledging their allegiance. Which, naturally, would be picked up by the ESPNs and similar channels and talked about all week. So wrestling was becoming HUGE at this point.
I know I wasn’t born yet, and I have a disability called cerebral palsy, and need a walking stick to walk, but I could’ve had a better steel cage match them Piper versus Hogan
Days Left Until Bret Hart Leaves The WWF: 14 (Literally Only 2 Weeks Left) Over in WWF Land, two days prior to Halloween Havoc saw Vince McMahon offer to let Bret Hart stay with the company & to honor the 20-year contract, likely in an attempt to convince Bret to do the job to Shawn at Survivor Series. Bret responds by saying that he'll give Vince his decision by November 1, as while he's obviously unsure as to how exactly WCW would book him, he was told by Vince that the plans for him staying with the WWF involve him losing to Shawn time after time until possibly WrestleMania XIV, when he'd finally get his win back. Meanwhile... HOW IN THE HELL DID RANDY SAVAGE STAND BACK UP AFTER THAT HIGH SPOT IN THE CAGE?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
+George Horvath So much intrigue at this time. And one single move one way or another could alter the course of history. What if Bret stayed? What would happen to Stone Cold's red hot run? Would WCW have stayed on its hot path? With Bret, Shawn, & Stone Cold ruling the main event could The Rock ever get a look inside? What about HHH? So much to wonder about. How did Randy Savage stand back up? It's in his last name. He's a SAVAGE!
@@UnforgivenRonin It's the leg equivalent of Brock Lesnar landing on his neck at Mania XIX. Savage only wound up surviving it because he was so beefy & strong, I guess.
@@Obscusion2 its crazy, because hogan was suppose to move close and catch him, but hogan being hogan, its just a miracle that savage knew what to do, and didn't get badly injured
I’ve never watched a ric flair match but EVERYTIME I see clips it’s like he has a move set of 5 .. chop .. kick to the leg … suplex .. ring post.. figure four 😂
I was in middle school and watched this PPV live. Honestly the ppv buys were most likely the fact (for me at least) was at school, EVERYONE was into wrestling at the time. So missing a PPV was like missing an Avengers movie then feeling left out on Monday when everyone else is talking about it
Finally, someone else who gets it. It was the same way during the first 6 Wrestlemanias too. (And the other PPVs. And Saturday Night's Main Event. Meanwhile, Crockett was DC...) Not sure how I feel about wrestling never being that big again. it's great we've got more options for our combat fantasy, but it feels like wrestling barely tries to think up a kayfabe these days. And only for main event feuds.
I remember feeling left out the next day at school after wrestlemania 6. I live in Brampton which is 20 minutes west of Toronto and most of the other guys parents took them to the Skydome to watch it live. We just didn't have the cash back then to go. But I was able to make it to wrestlemania 18 to see Rock vs Hogan, so it all worked out in the end. (I wouldn't go to a wwe event nowadays even if it was free admission. ) lol
@29:20 when savage throw the turnbuckle jab , while stumping then proceed with a turn off and gloating is legendary. It's like you are watching the movie of it. Playing revenge on WCW and watching it on TNT at the same time.
Just notice in the Ric Flair vs Curt Hennig match, Curt had the Crusierweight belt instead of the U.S. belt. Was there any backstage ska over this or is it cuz Curt lost the belt?
And once again if Sting was the man to defeat Hogan, Piper defeated Hogan x2 Luger defeated Hogan. So yeah even before the botched ending there was 0 momentum.
Thanks for another great video. You do an excellent job of being succinct on build up to these matches. As someone who never watched much wrestling after goofy gimmicks of Next Generation of WWF and Dungeon of Doom in WcW I know exactly what is happening and why in every video! To avoid copyright, slow down the action scenes or speed them up by a bit. The algorithm seems to not be able to catch them as easily that way. I think I speak for everyone when I say if you need more stills and less video to avoid the hassle, we will support that. Gedo didn't hit Jericho at all, which is amazing & shows how he knew right away that Jericho botched it. If you slow it down from the pull Gedo went from "ok, suplex , NO, he messed up another move, he is falling on his head, I have to fall to the side" in a half a second. Glad it was a seasoned vet in the ring or it could have ended horribly for Chris. The bookers did my man Alex Wright dirty, how do you come back from getting beat by Mongo and then having Goldberg pick you up and drop you on your opponent for a win? I have a feeling Das Wunderkind will be jobbing now
Loved Halloween Havoc. Amazes me WWE never took that concept that they owned and never made a PPV of it. Bischoff himself said in his mind it was WCW' Wrestlemania although Starrcade was obviously considered that.
Bischoff : "There will be no main event, and fans will be disappointed" Are we sure he's not talking about the following year's Halloween Havoc? *Rimshot*
Truly what I think of when I think of "Classic 90s WCW" with the cruiserweights and mid-card coming through with the brilliant wrestling and story-telling(mostly Eddie v Rey) while we get the utter bollocks from the main events! And honest question, was it the extra free slim jims from the promotion of a (pretty popular)PPV that saved Machos ankles?
All these in jokes from wrestling Bios are starting to rival osw. Chinlocks Brets jam Kick or be kicken Glacier Horseman business The REAL double J I can't even remember all of them. Pure hilarity.
This one had to get re-edited due to WWE's copyright policies. If it goes down, the original version will be free to view on Patreon.
Too much jam, that's your problem. The wwF can't handle it.
Tell Vince u and him summer slam kick or be kicking
Rey Jr vs Eddie probably really is the best match of WCW
I’ve just cancelled my WWE network subscription because they keep striking you. Get a grip WWE.
Vince has Slim Jims
We got Big Bratwurst and Jam
That botch in the Jericho match was absolutely horrendous, how he didn't get instantly crippled for life there is just miraculous.
Yeah, that was ugly. Hard to watch some botches.
I was about to type the exact same thing. Chris was really, really lucky. 😬
Wrestling history could have been very different
Jericho was doing tons of botches in WCW. I heard that when he went to the WWF, Vince shouted at him more than a few times after his matches. He realised this was a totally different place. lol He became a more safe wrestler in the WWE.
Jeez
The Rey vs Eddie match has to be in the Top 5 most influential matches of all time. It basically wrote the blueprint for all modern day wrestling matches. The difference is that Rey and Eddie were also charismatic.
Kevin Nash considered them “vanilla midgets” because they were short and had no charisma
@@who7950 i know what you mean. today they have nothing. these guys oozed machismo
@@who7950 In-match charisma and on-mic charisma are two different things.
Who? He was just salty because they were too short for him to big boot in the face... lol
A month or two before they tried to do the backflip DDT but not enough momentum or Rey Mysterio slipped jumping but the 2nd time at Halloween Havoc was flawless
The night Eddie and Rey gave us something absolutely beautiful. *wipes tear*
I'm glad they are dead now.
Shutupman
Those damn onions😥
This PPV is probably the most accurate depiction of WCW. Amazing undercard. Extremely reliable mid-card. Lots of Politics and BS.
God i hate Hogan and his manipulations
I did not care about all that as a 10 year old. This stuff was awesome to me.
@@Undying3001 What he said was true, but my feeling was exactly yours as a kid seeing this PPV (I was about 12). I knew wrestling was a circus of over-the-top fights and I loved every minute of it back then.
*@Joecbg100* not the 1st guy to do it, nor the only, and Hogan sure isn't the last.
Some of your favorites and mine were out there politic'n like there was no tomorrow as well
Congrats on getting repped on AEW Dynamite this week. Saw a Wrestling Bios sign in the front row, nice and prominent!
Saw a guy wearing Horseman on duty t shirt in the crowd
That was one of my best buddies! He is a huge fan!
@@cjetblack he definitely has the jam.
@@arcticfox04 That he does
Awesome
In turns of the buyrate, it's even more impressive because it went up against Game 7 of the World Series between the Indians and Marlins.
then again, it's the Indians and the Marlins lol
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 But the Indians haven't been to the Series since the 40s and last won the Series in 1920 I believe, many fans would have been watching
@@TheImapotato very true!
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 Oh yeah, that was horrible
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 as a Miamian... this memory hurts my heart. lol
I think Saturday Wright Fever is my favorite running joke on this channel.
Hogan v. Piper, aside from being a turd, is also to blame for messing up Savage's knees badly and shortening his career. Thanks, WCW.
You mean "Thanks Hogan." He didn't want to take the bump & let Savage fall to the ground instead of hitting him, kind of like how he avoided taking bumps on the cage, unlike Piper.
It's said Savage would never do anything he didn't believe in but it was a big mistake. He was never the same after that, he had to change his style a lot.
Me and my friends have been trying to remember the WCW Pay-Per-View when Dusty Rhodes said "he wobble legged him" for years! Thank you for FINALLY answering our question. 😁👍
DDP not winning the feud overall with Macho Man is still baffling to me all these years later.
DDP did win the feud vs Savage R.I.P.
Didn't he?
DDP has often credited this feud with Savage as being the one which elevated him to that top level. So it doesn't really matter who "won" the feud, it had the desired effect of turning DDP into a main event level talent who would go on to become a legend.
The more I watch this series, the more I hate Hulk Hogan's stronghold on the WCW Title, Scott Hall was beyond deserving
“Brother He Wobble Legged him……Did He Wobble Legged Him” 😂😂😂. Man gotta love Dusty lol he was truly one of a kind both inside the ring and outside when he cut promos 🙌🏾🤘🏾✊🏾.
He was annoying and overrated
That means nothing coming from you
@@williamstocker584 I am the almighty Harambe. There are statues of me. Where are yours?
DDP with taped ribs..."I think I'll start the match by flying over the top rope."
Eddie’s psychology and storytelling in that mask vs title match was master class! Great video Ryan! I’ll definitely have to join Patreon! Also DDP vs Savage III was a great way to cap off their 1997 feud. P.S it was the cruiserweight title not sure why or where Hennig’s U.S Title actually was
well spotted! would never caught CH was having cruiserweight belt with him
Hennig supposedly lost the belt so they had to grab the Cruiserweight belt on their way out there.
Out of all things WCW, I miss the Haloween Havoc ppv's the most
It's still hard to understand how they didn't dominate with an all star team roster.
If Heyman was in Bishoff's position, it might have been a different story.
I miss all the WCW ppv's
I miss WCW period.
@@kevinpayton2664 WCW 2000 was a disaster
@@petef9042 It was but overall WCW was a great promotion and I simply miss it.
Rey and Eddie is probably my favorite match ever. I have no words. Its just great.
It's in my top 3 for sure.
Guess Hogan's creative control doesn't cover having his salad tossed
This is right around when I started watching WCW. I was one of the new wrestling fans that helped give WCW big numbers that fall.
Same here, I am so glad for this series catching me up after all these years.
thank you brother.
For shame!! 😆 🙃
I was a wwf guy,
Kinda regretting my decision nowadays.
@@petef9042
RUclips knew this was going to be a massive upload but that won't stop Wrestling Bios from delivering the goods!
Thanks WB Ryan! You're by far the best!
Strange how La Parka was never booked for Halloween Havoc.
It was really nice to hear Rey Mysterio talk about this match vs Eddie in WWE 2k22. It's a fantastic match. Their matches against eachother really showcase their athleticism and cleverness in the ring.
The Rey v Eddie match is legendary. I loved seeing it in the 2K22 showcase. And Rey's Phantom outfit is one of coolest ever.
This event was my all time favorite one from WCW. Halloween Havoc was legit the PPV I looked forward to the most from them because it felt like this was the only PPV throughout the year they were willing to actually try to go outside the box on.
Very telling as to the kind of performers they were when Hogan wouldn’t bump on that cage to save his life, but Macho Man will jump off the top of the gd thing to do a double axe handle
Wasn't that what caused him the knee blowout around that time? He was never the same after that.
Yeah did savage get injured from that?
Why was Macho Man asked to take that bump would be another question. That looked like Cornette falling off the scaffold! Great show, weak main event for sure
Can't wait to see how this channel handles Alex Wright's turn into Berlyn.
Goldberg literally bumped into the ref while he was going after Mongo. Like seriously there had to have been so many different ways they could’ve done that ending.
Charles Robinson looks back but immediately goes back to Debra, I couldn't stop laughing
I swear if that Eddie vs Mysterio match took place today in 2022, Meltzer would give it 10 stars. It's a timeless classic.
It didn’t have the Bucks or Omega in it, nor did it take place in Japan. Davey’d give it 4 stars, maybe 4 and 3/4 and then he’d never pay it any kind again.
@@KingKhanate1997that's right!!
No Bucks, no Kenny, no Hangman, no 5 stars.
He may have given Rey vs Eddie R.I.P., 3 Stars, bc of Bischoff and Hogan
It was said Eddie was booked to win this one but he fought and refused to lose because Rey didn’t want to lose his mask yet. Ultimately Eddie and Rey figured out a good match with a good ending and it was even better than Rey losing his mask
Rey shouldn’t have ever lost his mask. I can’t even remember how/why it happened. Same w/psicosis. Only one that made sense & worked longterm was Juventud , who lost it in a good program w Jericho & became much more popular from it
Rey vs Eddie was arguably the best match to ever exist in pro wrestling, the DDP vs Savage rivalry was a classic feud one of the best of the 90s. These 2 matches here are worth the 400000 ppv buys
It was definitely better than their wrestlemania 21 match.
Havoc '97 - Starrcade '97 is the peak of WCW, and I say that as someone who considered 1992 their best year. It's all downhill after Sting didn't win clean and the nWo started morphing.
+Brian Heriot Correct. It's easy to see why WWF was taking all these wild chances on their shows at this time.
WCW was literally NITRO. Explosive. How they ruined a golden opportunity with Bret Hart & Sting will always baffle me.
Both have similar finishing moves. Both were tried & true emblems of their organizations only to be screwed by them.
Bret & Sting should have been a team fighting the nWo. But those backstage politics.
WWF saw that Starrcade weakness & knew it was time to strike. Enter Mike Tyson.
100% possibly even extending that from June '97 thru Starrcade '97. That Rodman stuff in '97 was so huge in the moment. And then heat the Luger was bringing with that WCW crowd. It's a shame the booking with Luger sort of took a nose dive after Road Wild, Bios is right. Almost could've made more sense in having a Hogan/Luger age in the cage instead of bringing back Piper as the commish.
Looking back on this in hindsight, I'm starting to see why the WWF wanted to make an industry-breaking event at Survivor Series 1997.
WCW was really on fire at this time, chaotic insanity or no chaotic insanity. The chaos was part of the fun for WCW actually.
They had some great mid-carders, powerfully emotional feuds, & the tension of the nWo vs. Sting always delivered.
So Vince knew with Bret "The Hitman" Hart's contract soon ending, he needed that big boost to get them the eyeballs on their product.
WWF had improved tremendously month after month particularly since Survivor Series 1996 & now had a seriously compelling show.
But they needed that final touch to shift the axis. THAT is why they decided to do the Montreal Screwjob against Bret.
The energy from that led them to the impact of Mike Tyson & Stone Cold Steve Austin a couple of months later in January 1998.
And after that, WCW was on its backfoot & the competition entered a new phase. I see it all clearly now in hindsight.
I tell ya, Eddie was an amazing wrestler plain and simple. And this match between him and Ray had to be the best match. Amazing work by both superstars, both are legends. Oh and is it just me or is that cage ridiculously tall 🤣 😂.
Hennig's "US Title" was actually the Cruiserweight belt. Someone must have imperfectly forgotten his real belt at home or gotten it lost at an airport.
For some strange reason, Curt Hennig always seems to wind up with the wrong belt. In 1990, when he won the vacant Intercontinental Championship from Tito Santana, he was given a World Tag Team Championship belt...
Once I went to a wcw show when Jarret was us champion. He must've forgot his belt though because he came out with some lame belt I had never seen before. I was bummed, especially since I had brought my US title replica.
Thought I was the only one to catch that lol
You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting to hear your review of Roddy and Hogan’s Age in a Cage hahaha.
This was my first time watching a Halloween Havoc live on PPV. Classic
It was the greatest night in the history of this great sport.
Anytime Alex Wright dancing, or a Davey boy Smith chinlock enters my day, it is an improvement.
The bout between Rey and Eddie will forever be one of my favorite matches of all time. What a Masterpiece!
Having a rough week and it legit made me happy to see the Wrestling Bios upload.
Gedo is now the booker for New Japan and Chris Jericho is now a wizard.
The Eddie vs Rey match was single handedly one of my favorite matches of the time. I already liked both wrestlers and loved watching their matches. But, this match skyrocketed both of them to 2 of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
I would love to see footage or hear stories of what the reaction was like backstage after that rey v eddie match.. that match has 100% replay value
Settle in. Great way to end the week.
It really is. Sunday's nights are great thanks to this channel
16:11. The disco skeleton for Halloween Havoc. Hahahaha what a fantastic touch! 👏
Legitimately got chills just seeing the highlights and recap of Rey and Eddie and I just watched this match two days ago again after a while. One of my favorite matches of all.
The Eddie vs Mysterio bout is one of my favourite matches ever, it’s an absolute classic. Plus Saturday Wright Fever is in full affect at Halloween Havoc!
I still remember watching Eddie vs. Rey. That match blew me away.
I still say that Disco vs Jackie was the sleeper match. 😴
How are you still around if you blew away?
Rey vs Eddie elevated the PPV as a whole, and DDP vs Macho Man helped, but that main event... just wow.
I always turn the show off after DDP vs Randy savage
Amazing seeing that three-act play going on behind the ref's back. That was a feature-length distraction.
It was longer than many Goldberg full length matches lol
Eddie guerrero vs Rey Mysterio @ Halloween Havoc 1997 is an amazing match it's apart of the WWE 2k22 Rey Mysterio 2k showcase.
I remember this being a pretty good ppv overall but Eddie and Ray stole the show and the cruiserweight title felt like I big deal here
Did not know that Gedo would be on a WCW PPV, crazy how he's risen the ranks to NJPW booker honestly.
To further your note about how wrestling had become “mainstream” at this point (again), I’d point out that I believe it was around here when one prominent (American) football player scored a touchdown, and his celebration dance was literally DDP’s Diamond Cutter. So we’re talking prime-time, Monday-night football, the NFL, major stuff in the US, and those athletes were pledging their allegiance.
Which, naturally, would be picked up by the ESPNs and similar channels and talked about all week. So wrestling was becoming HUGE at this point.
Your right, I totally forgot about that. Great times back then.
+ShemaniTims Why can't we have these days back. man? It was so good in this era.
I know I wasn’t born yet, and I have a disability called cerebral palsy, and need a walking stick to walk, but I could’ve had a better steel cage match them Piper versus Hogan
Days Left Until Bret Hart Leaves The WWF: 14 (Literally Only 2 Weeks Left)
Over in WWF Land, two days prior to Halloween Havoc saw Vince McMahon offer to let Bret Hart stay with the company & to honor the 20-year contract, likely in an attempt to convince Bret to do the job to Shawn at Survivor Series. Bret responds by saying that he'll give Vince his decision by November 1, as while he's obviously unsure as to how exactly WCW would book him, he was told by Vince that the plans for him staying with the WWF involve him losing to Shawn time after time until possibly WrestleMania XIV, when he'd finally get his win back.
Meanwhile... HOW IN THE HELL DID RANDY SAVAGE STAND BACK UP AFTER THAT HIGH SPOT IN THE CAGE?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
noticed how he fell, he soften the fall, by using both legs at the same time
+George Horvath So much intrigue at this time. And one single move one way or another could alter the course of history.
What if Bret stayed? What would happen to Stone Cold's red hot run? Would WCW have stayed on its hot path?
With Bret, Shawn, & Stone Cold ruling the main event could The Rock ever get a look inside? What about HHH?
So much to wonder about. How did Randy Savage stand back up? It's in his last name. He's a SAVAGE!
@@UnforgivenRonin It's the leg equivalent of Brock Lesnar landing on his neck at Mania XIX. Savage only wound up surviving it because he was so beefy & strong, I guess.
@@Obscusion2 its crazy, because hogan was suppose to move close and catch him, but hogan being hogan, its just a miracle that savage knew what to do, and didn't get badly injured
I’ve never watched a ric flair match but EVERYTIME I see clips it’s like he has a move set of 5 .. chop .. kick to the leg … suplex .. ring post.. figure four 😂
I was in middle school and watched this PPV live. Honestly the ppv buys were most likely the fact (for me at least) was at school, EVERYONE was into wrestling at the time. So missing a PPV was like missing an Avengers movie then feeling left out on Monday when everyone else is talking about it
Finally, someone else who gets it.
It was the same way during the first 6 Wrestlemanias too. (And the other PPVs. And Saturday Night's Main Event. Meanwhile, Crockett was DC...)
Not sure how I feel about wrestling never being that big again. it's great we've got more options for our combat fantasy, but it feels like wrestling barely tries to think up a kayfabe these days. And only for main event feuds.
I remember feeling left out the next day at school after wrestlemania 6.
I live in Brampton which is 20 minutes west of Toronto and most of the other guys parents took them to the Skydome to watch it live.
We just didn't have the cash back then to go.
But I was able to make it to wrestlemania 18 to see Rock vs Hogan, so it all worked out in the end.
(I wouldn't go to a wwe event nowadays even if it was free admission. ) lol
Amazing the Ultimo Dragon and Nagata are still wrestling to this day
It's up for now so lets see how long this last
@29:20 when savage throw the turnbuckle jab , while stumping then proceed with a turn off and gloating is legendary. It's like you are watching the movie of it. Playing revenge on WCW and watching it on TNT at the same time.
RIP Randy's knees
I never saw this ppv when it originally aired and these videos are great to get an idea of how it went. 🙂
Just notice in the Ric Flair vs Curt Hennig match, Curt had the Crusierweight belt instead of the U.S. belt. Was there any backstage ska over this or is it cuz Curt lost the belt?
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I recall reading that he didn’t bring the belt with him so that had to use the cruiserweight strap instead.
He was ABSOLUTELY...imperfect
Such a WCW move "eh whatever just grab any belt they won't notice"
Couldn't they just grab a replica from the souvenir stand?
“It’s better to burn out than to fade away.” -Billy Kidman
Always love those moments where the "Kick or be Kicken!" line can get referenced again. Nowhere near as often as Chinlocks and such.
I remember seeing the commercial promo on TV fpr this, but my family would never pay for the PPV price. I don't blame them.
They probably couldn't afford it.
And once again if Sting was the man to defeat Hogan, Piper defeated Hogan x2 Luger defeated Hogan. So yeah even before the botched ending there was 0 momentum.
Thanks for another great video. You do an excellent job of being succinct on build up to these matches. As someone who never watched much wrestling after goofy gimmicks of Next Generation of WWF and Dungeon of Doom in WcW I know exactly what is happening and why in every video!
To avoid copyright, slow down the action scenes or speed them up by a bit. The algorithm seems to not be able to catch them as easily that way. I think I speak for everyone when I say if you need more stills and less video to avoid the hassle, we will support that.
Gedo didn't hit Jericho at all, which is amazing & shows how he knew right away that Jericho botched it. If you slow it down from the pull Gedo went from "ok, suplex , NO, he messed up another move, he is falling on his head, I have to fall to the side" in a half a second. Glad it was a seasoned vet in the ring or it could have ended horribly for Chris.
The bookers did my man Alex Wright dirty, how do you come back from getting beat by Mongo and then having Goldberg pick you up and drop you on your opponent for a win? I have a feeling Das Wunderkind will be jobbing now
As someone who was 11 years old in 97 I love this era so much. I only just found your videos and I'm going down the rabbit hole damn you!
Keep the nostalgia coming
Had to click fast. Looking forward to the Mysterio vs Guerrero match which was my favorite of the PPV. That match was amazing.
"...He, uhhh... he eats his a**hole." I'm freaking dead.🤣💀
I’ve been watching these videos for quite some time now but my god every time a chinlock gets used I die laughing
Shawn's hesitancy to go into the ring was more believable than Hogans because the Undertaker is much more intimidating than Piper.
Loved Halloween Havoc. Amazes me WWE never took that concept that they owned and never made a PPV of it. Bischoff himself said in his mind it was WCW' Wrestlemania although Starrcade was obviously considered that.
Keep up the amazing work. You have a Davey Boy Smith Chinlock on the wrestling RUclips game.
Literally thought the moonsault DDT that Mysterio pulled off was a video game only move..
Bischoff : "There will be no main event, and fans will be disappointed"
Are we sure he's not talking about the following year's Halloween Havoc? *Rimshot*
+toptenguy1 OUCH! Me & my friends ordered that PPV. It cut out right before DDP was about to Diamond Cut Goldberg.
This was the first year I fell in love with wrestling as a kid. It started in the summer and I thought Hogan and the NWO were so cool lol. I was 8.
I look forward way more to Wrestling Bios recaps of old shows that I do to any modern wrestling show.
AEW is good, man. It got me back into wrestling. Modern WWE, on the other hand....
That Eddie vs Rey jnr match showed how well lucha can be done, so fast and fluid that the co-operation between the two is kept well hidden.
Truly what I think of when I think of "Classic 90s WCW" with the cruiserweights and mid-card coming through with the brilliant wrestling and story-telling(mostly Eddie v Rey) while we get the utter bollocks from the main events! And honest question, was it the extra free slim jims from the promotion of a (pretty popular)PPV that saved Machos ankles?
Even til this day this is one of my favorites of all time both eddie and rey brought their a game i was teen yrs old when this match happened
This was my favorite Halloween Havoc 🎃 1997 PPV 👍👍
Been waiting for this day so long, only PPV I ever attended.
The Rey v Eddie match is epic and the DDP v Savage is great too
Hogan could've caught Savage at least Piper checked on him
How has Piper biting Hogan's ass not become a bigger meme?! I feel like that's a GIF that should be used forever 🤣
Right seems like a missed opportunity
I would think that taking a cross body from 1990s Ms Jackie is a highlight of the Disco Infernos career. 😍
Macho Man was 45 years old when he jumped off that cage.
Bonesaw was ready!!!
I remember watching WCW Halloween Havoc 1997 my uncle ordered the PPV event sweet childhood memories of nostalgia
I only saw that Eddie/Rey match in full like 10 years after the fact (after hearing insane hype for it) AND... It 100% lived up to the hype!
This was about the time I started watching both WCW and WWF
Can't believe this PPV has both one of the greatest matches and one of the worst matches of all time.
Wrestling bios reliving the war and WWE 2k22 a combo so golden it even meets Shelton Benjamin standards
Pee-wee Anderson. 🤣🤣💀 I love all the little jokes and roasts you come up with. It absolutely great.
All these in jokes from wrestling Bios are starting to rival osw.
Chinlocks
Brets jam
Kick or be kicken
Glacier
Horseman business
The REAL double J
I can't even remember all of them. Pure hilarity.
I wasn't expecting Decisive Battle or the Featuring Dante sticker. You've got a sub
Wrestling Bios getting Alex Wright over better than WCW ever could yet again
Been waiting all day!!
Goldberg didn't have a match. He is now 27-0.