Really, Laura. It’s Scotland! This is all about Neolithic protocol-golf. Remember all those stone balls? The grassy area outside the circle is the ruff. The adjacent bays are the water hazards. The ditch is the sand trap. Inside is the green. But there is no hole. Points are made by bouncing a ball off the standing stones. Like snooker. The “burials” are unfortunate players overtaken by the next fore some. Fore means duck! In any language. Yep clearly a golf club. The grooved bowls clearly are ball cleaners. Unconventional, I know. But sometimes one must think outside the box. Fox out.
Not megalith-related, exactly, but just south of the city of Boston, USA was the town of Roxbury, well-named for its many rocky outcrops. In the early 1800s, there was still a very large glacial erratic boulder sitting on a rock base that was a so-called rocking or balancing stone. It was a massive thing, but could be rocked by pushing it with one hand. Apparently, this owner also got tired of people coming onto his land to see the stone and set it moving, so he hired some men to knock it over and break it up. I looked up the location according to an 1824 report, and it seems to have been located on the site of my old high school, within a residential district today.
hidey-ho, Laura! such a mysterious, fascinating area! would like to have seen it in it's hey-day! to see these sites in their complete form would, maybe, give us some answers. and, i liked Kerri's idea of a sun-dial. who knows, you could be right, Kerri! something very important, for sure! so, Lauragator, please keep them coming but, don't burn out! looks like you're going full speed!
Interesting as always but I'm finding those places really fascinating and I would love to visit! Yes, I agree with you that there are many things that links them together! Thanks for sharing 👍 👍👍
Enjoying the content. The transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture is most interesting. What were we thinking back then oh I'd love to know what stories they told: what did they tell their children on stormy nights. What did they fear the most I wonder, our modern fears are most salient easily listed but their fears are lost to time.
I wonder if the angled tops of the Stones of Stenness allighned with any constellations at the time or maybe the poined shadow during the daytime used as a sundial or solar pointer.
I believe so yeah. But am thinking stone circles in this more than long barrows. The long barrows seem to be a tradition that came from the continent. But it’s all open to speculation to be honest.
And if you gaze long enough into an abyss of time the abyss will gaze back into you. And both of us smile as we are able listen to such great documentaries. Edit: Wonder if the alignment with solstice was accurate when they build those monuments. As precession over > 5000 years should have dis-aligned them. Or?
“He who fights with monsters must take care not to become a monster in turn, for if you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you. “ Nietzsche: Beyond Good and Evil, a prelude to philosophy. 1886. Very good! Procession. Also precession, precision and other artifacts of a pernicious spell checker. Some celestial objects appear to initially change position or alignment in the heavens. Viewed over time we call this procession. This effect is caused by the path of the earth about the sun being an ellipse, not a true circle. Also the earth tilts off axis about 23 degrees and has a wobble of about 2-3 degrees. All these together create procession. Alignments of stars and some lunar and solar observations process. The setting of the sun on the two equinox does not. Thus if stone henge or some other structure had a polar alignment 2000 years ago it would not align today. But it would align again in 24,000 years. 26,000 years being the period of the wobble. Procession is observed on observations of declination above the horizon. The solstice are observed as an azimuth on the horizon as the observed object is eclipsed. The fact that the sun appears to set farther and farther westerly, until it stops and moves daily easterly is the procession of the sun. Or as milankovitch called it the “procession of the equinox”. This observation is consistent year after year. Thus it’s simple, yields the desired information, and there is no need to adjust your stones every few years. I’d be happy to explain or you can google it and see pictures. Just so you know. Fox out.
@@MegalithHunter Laura. It’s not hard. Well celestial navigation is hard. And “Archeology-astronomy” is hard. Start with the basics. Melankovitch described the path of the earth about the sun and the seasonal effects of our tilt and wobble. This is most frequently discussed in relation to our earths climate. All greenhouse gases and other nonsense aside, how hot or cold you are is in direct relation to how close you sit to the fire. So EONs has a good video on orbit and tilt and seasons. If you get that you get 80% of what you need to know for archeology. Easy-peasy. No math! Archeological alignments come in two flavors. Declination. And azimuth. Declination means you have to look 👀…….up. You might want to measure some vertical angle. That’s where you get pools with rods and…..math. But you are fixed at one point. Literally set in stone. Azimuth is the other, most basic, observation. Your just looking in some direction from a fixed point. That’s how all these circles work. You stand at the observation stone. When sunset is right at the edge of a certain stone it’s the solstice. No math. No muss or fuss. It’s just …..there. You can start a religion, have a goat sacrificed and grilled…. So you can have a snack while you wait for sunset. The biggest mistake is people confuse observing declination and making an “alignment” with the simple observation of an azimuth. The first changes. The second does not. Sadly I don’t know of a good video that illustrates this. Probably to keep the common man from catching on and threatening the supply of goat snacks. I did you a disservice. I started out talking about celestial navigation. It’s the most complex. There is multiple levels of relative motion and lots of math. And worst of all no goat snacks. Your basically on a moving platform at sea or worse in the air, trying to observe both azimuth and declination on moving celestial objects. All they give you is pilot crackers. No goat. The tough math takes what people learned from millennia of star pool observations and you calculate “whereinthehellweare”. You don’t need that you just need the basic idea. So if you read about the star pool and there “were sticks and even an astrolabe” you know what they were doing. Observing declination. And getting the farmers to bring them goat snacks. That’s all. It’s not complicated. That and you need to be cynical. When they say “it was perfectly aligned with Orion”. You need to say “really”? Which star in Orion? Who figured out “perfect”? You don’t have to calculate it all your self. Just look into the credentials of the person making the statement of “perfect alignment”. If they can’t add to 20 with their shoes on you might want to look into that alignment claim. I hope that helps. Take heart! Fox out.
@@billmiller4972 Actually in the lore of the American plains Indians Fox, the trickster, was also messenger of the gods. Thunderbird sent fire to man with Fox. Fox dropped fire, set the grass on fire and burned the tip of his tail. It’s thus white to this very day. Never trust a fox completely. Every culture has a different name for the fox. Often one for the male fox and one for female. Todde in old English, Renaurd in French, Zorro in Spanish, vulpes in Latin, Tod in Hungarian. And so forth. And best of all foxes are modest. Please. No applause. Send goat snacks. Fox out.
Wonderfully concise presentation, thank you. For an extremely thought-provoking take on the possible cultural connectivity regarding the Ancient Egyptians, Dogon & Ancient Andean civilisations, I highly recommend Laird Scranton's 'Mystery of Skara Brae' publication which is closely related to my own research. Spirited wishes..RN
Really, Laura. It’s Scotland! This is all about Neolithic protocol-golf. Remember all those stone balls?
The grassy area outside the circle is the ruff. The adjacent bays are the water hazards. The ditch is the sand trap. Inside is the green. But there is no hole. Points are made by bouncing a ball off the standing stones. Like snooker. The “burials” are unfortunate players overtaken by the next fore some. Fore means duck! In any language.
Yep clearly a golf club. The grooved bowls clearly are ball cleaners.
Unconventional, I know. But sometimes one must think outside the box.
Fox out.
😂😂😂 Fox has solved the mystery as always!
yup! ya hit the nail with that one, Fox! humor and science, all wrapped up in one lil furball.
Very mysterious things. I enjoy the fun theories we throw out in the chat. Ha!
Do you have any new articles out?
Thanks for all you do Laura!
Hahaha! Nothing new at the moment.
Not megalith-related, exactly, but just south of the city of Boston, USA was the town of Roxbury, well-named for its many rocky outcrops. In the early 1800s, there was still a very large glacial erratic boulder sitting on a rock base that was a so-called rocking or balancing stone. It was a massive thing, but could be rocked by pushing it with one hand. Apparently, this owner also got tired of people coming onto his land to see the stone and set it moving, so he hired some men to knock it over and break it up. I looked up the location according to an 1824 report, and it seems to have been located on the site of my old high school, within a residential district today.
Another great vid. The mystery of the megaliths is so fascinating. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video and very interesting!
Thanks Sandi!!
hidey-ho, Laura! such a mysterious, fascinating area! would like to have seen it in it's hey-day! to see these sites in their complete form would, maybe, give us some answers. and, i liked Kerri's idea of a sun-dial. who knows, you could be right, Kerri! something very important, for sure!
so, Lauragator, please keep them coming but, don't burn out! looks like you're going full speed!
Thanks for joining Floyd!
@@MegalithHunter always, Laura! at least, whenever i am on time. which isn't quite always😄
Interesting as always but I'm finding those places really fascinating and I would love to visit! Yes, I agree with you that there are many things that links them together! Thanks for sharing 👍 👍👍
Thanks for watching Paolo!
Enjoying the content. The transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture is most interesting. What were we thinking back then oh I'd love to know what stories they told: what did they tell their children on stormy nights. What did they fear the most I wonder, our modern fears are most salient easily listed but their fears are lost to time.
Thanks Jason! Yes I really wonder too!
new subscriber, excellent work, more on Ireland, please.
Thank you John! Certainly.
Comparative Mythology is for me definite proof of cultural links in the deep past.
I wonder if the angled tops of the Stones of Stenness allighned with any constellations at the time or maybe the poined shadow during the daytime used as a sundial or solar pointer.
Am looking into that. Seems possible.
Its my understanding that Coldrum in Kent predates the structures on the Ness of Brodgar.
I believe so yeah. But am thinking stone circles in this more than long barrows. The long barrows seem to be a tradition that came from the continent. But it’s all open to speculation to be honest.
Prolific builder's but still no answers!
Not yet! Thanks for watching
And if you gaze long enough into an abyss of time the abyss will gaze back into you.
And both of us smile as we are able listen to such great documentaries.
Edit: Wonder if the alignment with solstice was accurate when they build those monuments. As precession over > 5000 years should have dis-aligned them. Or?
I really need to get a handle on archaeastronomy to investigate this myself. I would imagine it can teach us a lot.
“He who fights with monsters must take care not to become a monster in turn, for if you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you. “
Nietzsche: Beyond Good and Evil, a prelude to philosophy. 1886.
Very good!
Procession. Also precession, precision and other artifacts of a pernicious spell checker.
Some celestial objects appear to initially change position or alignment in the heavens. Viewed over time we call this procession. This effect is caused by the path of the earth about the sun being an ellipse, not a true circle. Also the earth tilts off axis about 23 degrees and has a wobble of about 2-3 degrees. All these together create procession.
Alignments of stars and some lunar and solar observations process. The setting of the sun on the two equinox does not. Thus if stone henge or some other structure had a polar alignment 2000 years ago it would not align today. But it would align again in 24,000 years. 26,000 years being the period of the wobble. Procession is observed on observations of declination above the horizon.
The solstice are observed as an azimuth on the horizon as the observed object is eclipsed. The fact that the sun appears to set farther and farther westerly, until it stops and moves daily easterly is the procession of the sun. Or as milankovitch called it the “procession of the equinox”. This observation is consistent year after year. Thus it’s simple, yields the desired information, and there is no need to adjust your stones every few years. I’d be happy to explain or you can google it and see pictures.
Just so you know.
Fox out.
@@MegalithHunter
Laura. It’s not hard. Well celestial navigation is hard. And “Archeology-astronomy” is hard.
Start with the basics. Melankovitch described the path of the earth about the sun and the seasonal effects of our tilt and wobble. This is most frequently discussed in relation to our earths climate. All greenhouse gases and other nonsense aside, how hot or cold you are is in direct relation to how close you sit to the fire.
So EONs has a good video on orbit and tilt and seasons. If you get that you get 80% of what you need to know for archeology. Easy-peasy. No math!
Archeological alignments come in two flavors. Declination. And azimuth. Declination means you have to look 👀…….up. You might want to measure some vertical angle. That’s where you get pools with rods and…..math. But you are fixed at one point. Literally set in stone.
Azimuth is the other, most basic, observation. Your just looking in some direction from a fixed point. That’s how all these circles work. You stand at the observation stone. When sunset is right at the edge of a certain stone it’s the solstice. No math. No muss or fuss. It’s just …..there. You can start a religion, have a goat sacrificed and grilled…. So you can have a snack while you wait for sunset.
The biggest mistake is people confuse observing declination and making an “alignment” with the simple observation of an azimuth. The first changes. The second does not. Sadly I don’t know of a good video that illustrates this. Probably to keep the common man from catching on and threatening the supply of goat snacks.
I did you a disservice. I started out talking about celestial navigation. It’s the most complex. There is multiple levels of relative motion and lots of math. And worst of all no goat snacks. Your basically on a moving platform at sea or worse in the air, trying to observe both azimuth and declination on moving celestial objects. All they give you is pilot crackers. No goat. The tough math takes what people learned from millennia of star pool observations and you calculate “whereinthehellweare”. You don’t need that you just need the basic idea.
So if you read about the star pool and there “were sticks and even an astrolabe” you know what they were doing. Observing declination. And getting the farmers to bring them goat snacks.
That’s all. It’s not complicated. That and you need to be cynical. When they say “it was perfectly aligned with Orion”. You need to say “really”? Which star in Orion? Who figured out “perfect”? You don’t have to calculate it all your self. Just look into the credentials of the person making the statement of “perfect alignment”. If they can’t add to 20 with their shoes on you might want to look into that alignment claim.
I hope that helps. Take heart!
Fox out.
@@vulpesvulpes5177 Awesome! There's a reason why the fox has always been regarded as something special. From Europe to Japan.
@@billmiller4972
Actually in the lore of the American plains Indians Fox, the trickster, was also messenger of the gods. Thunderbird sent fire to man with Fox. Fox dropped fire, set the grass on fire and burned the tip of his tail. It’s thus white to this very day. Never trust a fox completely.
Every culture has a different name for the fox. Often one for the male fox and one for female. Todde in old English, Renaurd in French, Zorro in Spanish, vulpes in Latin, Tod in Hungarian. And so forth. And best of all foxes are modest. Please. No applause. Send goat snacks.
Fox out.
Wonderfully concise presentation, thank you. For an extremely thought-provoking take on the possible cultural connectivity regarding the Ancient Egyptians, Dogon & Ancient Andean civilisations, I highly recommend Laird Scranton's 'Mystery of Skara Brae' publication which is closely related to my own research. Spirited wishes..RN
slight problem in that over half of any evidence is lost due to sea level changes
I have the feeling the Megalith builders were travelling north as the Ice Age melted.
The grooved ware found there were older than ones found at stonehenge etc.. so it actually went in reverse of what you suggest.
I thought it was brought across from Europe, then spread south and west. Just a theory.