Guitar Action Is Too High - Shave Saddle Instead Of Adjust Truss Rod

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  • @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
    @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr Год назад +221

    To all the people saying he should just adjust the truss rod, you can pivot the strings as much as you want off the 2 points but if the points (nut/saddle) are too high to begin with you can old do so much with a truss rod. With electric I shave the nut if it’s too high at the 1st fret. This was actually a great short about acoustics.

    • @Super_Nope_13
      @Super_Nope_13 6 месяцев назад +5

      Truss rods are to set proper relief in the neck, not to adjust action. Setting relief might effect action but is not the reason to adjust truss rod. Order od operations should be...
      Tune to pitch
      Adjust/set relief
      Retune
      Measure action at the 12th
      Adjust action at 12 by sanding saddle/adding shim/making new saddle
      Then measure and adjust string height/action at the nut

    • @Christianflowarts
      @Christianflowarts 3 месяца назад

      This is a nylon string guitar. There is no truss rod in the neck.

    • @Super_Nope_13
      @Super_Nope_13 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Christianflowarts are you trolling right now? Haha

    • @Christianflowarts
      @Christianflowarts 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Super_Nope_13 yeah I must’ve been drunk idk why I commented this on an obviously steel string acoustic 🤣

    • @FlatpickRei
      @FlatpickRei 3 месяца назад +3

      truss rods are to adjust relief, not to adjust the action.

  • @Talon18136
    @Talon18136 3 месяца назад +7

    This is what I did the action on my new guitar wasn’t too bad out of the box it was a cheap jasmine I didn’t want to spend too much in case I didn’t stick with learning I did it with two picks put together and dropped at the 12th fret as my measurement. It worked like a charm

  • @limon.9575
    @limon.9575 Год назад +166

    Thanks for the tip I’ll reward you some nail clippers

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Год назад +17

      ❤️thank u

    • @edgarochoa5807
      @edgarochoa5807 Год назад +21

      At least they’re clean, I’m sure he uses them to strum. And pick a booger or two. I know I would!

    • @limon.9575
      @limon.9575 Год назад +2

      @@edgarochoa5807 lmaoooo

    • @Motorcycledailies
      @Motorcycledailies Год назад +3

      the coke nail

    • @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
      @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 10 месяцев назад +9

      Nah, I bet he clips his left hand nails regularly. That's how you spot a guitarist, short nails on one hand, long nails on the other! 🙂

  • @vbeats3054
    @vbeats3054 Год назад +7

    Thankyou, Quite informative & helpful in short 👍🏻

  • @Edwin-E
    @Edwin-E Год назад +45

    check the neck relief first to make sure that the neck is straight before shaving the saddle.

    • @carlmarx6427
      @carlmarx6427 7 месяцев назад

      How to check the relief 😢

    • @Edwin-E
      @Edwin-E 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@carlmarx6427 Quick way to check is press 6th string on the 1st fret and 14 fret, then check the gap between strings on the 7th fret. That should be very small, almost touching.

    • @diggetydug
      @diggetydug 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Edwin-E if it is straight, then I need to shave the saddle? My 1st fret is already pretty close. Worried the rod will create a buzz if I fix it there. 12th fret is close to a 1/8" gap.

    • @thrashtronaut999
      @thrashtronaut999 5 месяцев назад

      @@diggetydugif it is straight, your trustrod does not need adjustment. Then moving on to the saddle, follow the original video.

  • @godzilla964
    @godzilla964 Год назад +11

    I need to do that with my classical guitar.

  • @pardeepsharma3414
    @pardeepsharma3414 3 месяца назад +2

    done for my guitar. Now it is much easier to play

  • @stoicsceptic8420
    @stoicsceptic8420 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is light on actual detailed information , dangerous !

  • @davewoelkers6189
    @davewoelkers6189 10 месяцев назад +6

    I keep mine .10 and .85 usually at the 12th. Humidity is a huge factor in maintaining that so it’s more ideal to do 1/4 turn adjustments on the truss rod. Shaving the saddle would make more sense after a fret dressing

    • @NipunKushSrivastava
      @NipunKushSrivastava 3 месяца назад

      How to shave the saddle? Can I just rub it against the ruler?

    • @Blackfang_12
      @Blackfang_12 2 месяца назад +1

      @@NipunKushSrivastava sandpaper or a flat metal file. I've used a flat metal file to save time and finished it with 600 grit sandpaper on a bone saddle.

  • @NHAnimation-ms4ig
    @NHAnimation-ms4ig Месяц назад +8

    Meanwhile my fake guitar is like more than 4 cm. Didn't have truss rod and the bridge is too high, that didn't have pin on bridge.

    • @JayJackal
      @JayJackal 13 дней назад

      Mine is 7cm on the 12th, fake guitar also. But yeah playing over the 5th fret feels hard.

  • @carlosruizesparza3760
    @carlosruizesparza3760 4 месяца назад +1

    most string height issues on acoustic guitars come from the guitar top arching and the neck sinking into the guitar, shave the saddle is just a placebo

  • @EmmuFlicks
    @EmmuFlicks Год назад +8

    im scared ill shave too much lol

  • @sanzuisanzui460
    @sanzuisanzui460 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this❤

  • @kevinkopelman
    @kevinkopelman 8 месяцев назад +6

    Saddle needs to be shaved only after first making sure nut slots and truss rod are correct. If you adjust nut and truss after, you will probably have to change your saddle height again afterward and now it might be too low.

  • @marbomangu5023
    @marbomangu5023 Год назад +5

    Thanks man

  • @aechennn
    @aechennn 8 месяцев назад +1

    How you compute how much mm to cut on saddle after you got 3.4 mm and high e of 2.6?

  • @andhikanazrilshidiq8062
    @andhikanazrilshidiq8062 3 месяца назад +1

    You should always ensure that the neck is straight before attempting to do this, still.

  • @wwefans4819
    @wwefans4819 Год назад

    i try this it work thanks man

  • @SenfMustard
    @SenfMustard Месяц назад

    You should adjust the truss rod if it needs adjusting though. A straight truss rod not only sets the action but also allows the guitar to vibrate and play better.
    Action from the saddle should only be done once the truss rod has been adjusted properly

  • @joe1205
    @joe1205 Год назад +1

    I have a fender strat and an older cheap rock jam one. Since I got my fender, I play it all the time. I picked up my old one and started playing it the other day and haven't picked it up since because the action is so high. I don't know if it was always that high.
    Do you know how I can reduce it?

    • @FenderFanboy91
      @FenderFanboy91 11 месяцев назад +2

      Adjust the saddles with a small allen wrench

  • @teen90s
    @teen90s Год назад

    เยี่ยมมากครับกำลังหาวิธีอยู่เลย

  • @mike23639
    @mike23639 7 месяцев назад +2

    Check for shims under the saddle before you shave.

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 2 года назад +66

    Make a permanent change instead of adjusting a part that's meant to be adjusted. Got it.

    • @yardbirdsweet
      @yardbirdsweet Год назад +75

      Saddles are cheap and easily replaceable, and sanding them is an extremely common part of setting up an acoustic’s action to a player’s preference. No need to be snarky.

    • @Eskii_NZL
      @Eskii_NZL Год назад +11

      Well why not? If you want your action to be specific why not make a permanent change instead of having to readjust every time you hear feet buzzing

    • @qiamdof
      @qiamdof Год назад

      i think he meant adjusting the trust rod

    • @armadillolizard711
      @armadillolizard711 Год назад +2

      I actually NEED to sand my saddle down since I just got it. If this short isn't for you just stfu.😁

    • @ky.5473
      @ky.5473 Год назад +7

      In some case, the neck is not adjustable. In classical nylon guitar for example you really have to sand the saddle since classical guitar doesn't have truss rod

  • @Leon-Coils19912
    @Leon-Coils19912 Год назад +1

    Nice can u sand off the nut aswell?

  • @superbuilders
    @superbuilders Год назад +30

    My low e is 5.5 mm and i can shred imagine the pain 😩

    • @everythingfromadam
      @everythingfromadam Год назад +7

      You ok, man?😳

    • @Doesitmatter00710
      @Doesitmatter00710 11 месяцев назад +1

      Same here i have to do that first i was thinking to tighten up truss rod but there was not so much bend at all.

    • @superbuilders
      @superbuilders 9 месяцев назад +3

      @saikiran00710 mine is a cheap 10 dollar guitar no truss rod barley tunes

    • @superbuilders
      @superbuilders 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Someone-sv6re nope an unknown 10 dollar guitar

    • @RAMSOfficial
      @RAMSOfficial 9 месяцев назад +2

      if you wan't setting neck, string Tuning first to deffault. if you done,
      you can do adjust guitar neck for 2,8mm / 2,5mm / 2mm
      if using string 010 you can adjust Low E freth 12 minimum 2,25mm, High E 2mm.
      one more setting nuth in freth 1 minimum 0,5mm/0,050mm

  • @arroncajigas4260
    @arroncajigas4260 11 месяцев назад

    Is this has a full video?

  • @zeppelin815
    @zeppelin815 День назад

    I like mine loww like 1.7mm to 2mm on the low e

  • @NgalaRaey
    @NgalaRaey 9 месяцев назад

    Please can you do for electric guitar please

  • @joeyy4950
    @joeyy4950 9 месяцев назад

    Bro i did that too but it's so hard to tune now, the strings are breaking cause i keep on twisting the tuning keys just to reach the standard tune

  • @toomuchsugarush7821
    @toomuchsugarush7821 2 месяца назад +2

    mine is 6 mm 💀💀

  • @lawrencedaveborlaza4493
    @lawrencedaveborlaza4493 2 месяца назад +2

    what happens if i shaved the top?

  • @arjaytayan
    @arjaytayan 6 дней назад

    next fret dressing

  • @RogerioDuarte
    @RogerioDuarte 11 месяцев назад +2

    saddle less than 3mm kill the sound

  • @99gamerz78
    @99gamerz78 Год назад +1

    Can anyone help me my guitar action is too high more then 1.5cm 😢

  • @Shane-en6xq
    @Shane-en6xq Год назад

    what tool did u used to shave the saddle?

  • @DHAIRYAMITTAL-zd4oi
    @DHAIRYAMITTAL-zd4oi 8 месяцев назад

    Mine string action is 7 mm... So i able to 😢use only first 3 frets

  • @kleio7323
    @kleio7323 11 месяцев назад +1

    can i put back the same guitar strings i removed or i should put a new one?

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yes you can.. as long as the strings are still okay

    • @kleio7323
      @kleio7323 11 месяцев назад

      @@elvenderideas Thank you!!
      I just changed my strings and I also just realized that my guitar's action is high😅

  • @philtuliao4595
    @philtuliao4595 6 месяцев назад

    you can’t just shave the string saddle to have a good string action. if you don’t adjust the truss rod. but too much tension on the rod can cause a buzzing sound if the saddle is too low

  • @samiandkashif
    @samiandkashif Год назад +2

    Ap to Karigar ho

  • @ahnafhabib5413
    @ahnafhabib5413 10 месяцев назад

    Mine is like 1cm gap between fretboard and low e

  • @brucerain2106
    @brucerain2106 Год назад +2

    I sanded it so much it doesn’t even touch the strings no more, and adjusted the truss rod, but the action is still high. Helpp

  • @tanmoygvlogs1
    @tanmoygvlogs1 10 месяцев назад

    What's the guiter name

  • @MetalAtomico
    @MetalAtomico 5 месяцев назад

    1.5/1.0mm

  • @badhabit8824
    @badhabit8824 Год назад +6

    These arguments are crazy. If you are a relief is correct then only a quarter turn and either directions should be made to the truss rod. If you cannot obtain the desired action from a quarter turn then you should then make adjustments to the nut and saddle like this guy did. Truss rods are specifically designed to adjust relief in the neck It should only be used to make small adjustments to the action.

    • @Barni2212
      @Barni2212 Год назад +1

      When you have a cheap-ass guitar as mine, you don't have such a thing as truss rod XD

    • @Doesitmatter00710
      @Doesitmatter00710 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Barni2212😂😂😂

  • @cotton0108
    @cotton0108 5 месяцев назад

    why i cant remove my saddle

  • @JAKENMK
    @JAKENMK 7 месяцев назад

    I have an adjustable saddle and even set all the way down the action is about 8mm at the 12th fret. 😂

  • @muhammadfiqihnurhakim75
    @muhammadfiqihnurhakim75 11 месяцев назад +1

    My guitar 1.75mm in string low E and 0.75 in string high E😅

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 4 месяца назад

      is it better ? so should one shave the saddle to get this action as mine is 4 mm on low E......

  • @nujhatshahrin8049
    @nujhatshahrin8049 10 месяцев назад

    I broke one bridge pin while doing this.. now what to do:")

  • @jeerymochahary9182
    @jeerymochahary9182 11 месяцев назад

    I can't open saddle of my guitar

  • @kielmatthewreyes9892
    @kielmatthewreyes9892 6 месяцев назад

    Pov: you own a classical

  • @matthewjdouglas6471
    @matthewjdouglas6471 16 дней назад

    My action is about 8mm at the highest its unplayable

  • @keithkline6334
    @keithkline6334 7 месяцев назад

    Does that screw up the intonation ?

    • @Talon18136
      @Talon18136 3 месяца назад

      Did it on mine and no the intonation it’s just fine I also made adjustments to my truss rod before even shaving the saddle down doesn’t take much

  • @z_9038
    @z_9038 3 месяца назад

    I cough for days after inhaling microplastics.

  • @bedabyasa_biswal_
    @bedabyasa_biswal_ Год назад +3

    Where should we rest the ruler to measure?
    Above the Fret sticks or from the wooden base of fret ?
    Please reply; I need to do something to it.

  • @Anooppie
    @Anooppie 5 месяцев назад

    Mines 1cm🥰

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 4 месяца назад +1

      does it feel better while playing? does it buzz? should i shave my saddle as my low E is 4 mm 🥲

  • @Dyl-XL
    @Dyl-XL 2 месяца назад

    bros thumb is a pick

  • @Arkson_2010
    @Arkson_2010 17 дней назад

    Mine at 8.7 mm 😂

  • @krishlakhotiamaheshwari07
    @krishlakhotiamaheshwari07 Год назад

    Me who having 1 cm thinking action is low 😂😂

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 8 дней назад

    The FIRST thing you do is adjust the truss rod BEFORE altering the bridge saddle - this is HORRIBLE advice.

  • @sound_of_guitar
    @sound_of_guitar 9 месяцев назад

    Guitar action is fine from 4 to 5.5 mm, buzzing will be from 2 to 3.5 mm.

  • @1911geek
    @1911geek Год назад

    Botched😮 Trying to make it look easy. Follow at your own risk folks uneven saddle under side. Which leads to imbalance intonation and so on. Bad practice lay flat on glass and have a guide for straight flat contact sanding

  • @fajarrestu7113
    @fajarrestu7113 Год назад

    6mm here

  • @EasyGameroad
    @EasyGameroad Год назад

    Apa guna besi tanam di gitar🥵

  • @dislikeme7639
    @dislikeme7639 2 года назад +10

    First of all: just practice and get used to it. Second of all: consult a luthier before doing this kind of stuff, you might lose a lot of money if you mess up.

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  2 года назад +31

      Cutting or shaving the saddle is the most safest method instead of ruin the truss rod.. 😊

    • @yardbirdsweet
      @yardbirdsweet Год назад +16

      A lot of money? The saddle in your guitar probably costs $5

    • @francescocalvanese6235
      @francescocalvanese6235 Год назад +7

      Man it s rare to find a comment where every sentence is wrong. Congratulation!

    • @armadillolizard711
      @armadillolizard711 Год назад

      It's like 10 bucks...

    • @Aih.8373an
      @Aih.8373an Год назад +1

      If the guitar is not comfortable to play
      Then it's worth nothing
      ..I do agree on getting a professional opinion before doing this stuff

  • @AdrianBoisclair
    @AdrianBoisclair 9 месяцев назад

    Why shave saddle? If it’s a Taylor, a simple neck reset will do the job without any permanent changes.

  • @Palale_trolls_2.0
    @Palale_trolls_2.0 Год назад

    dont do that if you dont want your guitar get more vibration with playing

  • @asidnasidn6588
    @asidnasidn6588 Год назад

    That's why you have long nails on one hand

  • @zenn6843
    @zenn6843 10 месяцев назад

    Why do i have metal inside my saddle

    • @afr3609
      @afr3609 9 месяцев назад

      Its piezo for capturing ur guitar string wave to produce sound to the amp

  • @Snowy0123
    @Snowy0123 Год назад +3

    Trussrod adjustment to adjust string height??? That's how you know this guy doesn't know what he's doing.. not what the trussrod is for..

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Год назад +12

      Dude I will give you the detail of truss rod adjustments if you what. This technique is for guitar that doesn't have truss rod and it is safe. Remember wrongly adjusting the truss rod can be damaging your guitar.. 😊

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Год назад +2

      And please read the description and title before commenting. Thanks

    • @cariagakenchim8479
      @cariagakenchim8479 Год назад +5

      Truss rod isn't for string's height, it is to straighten the neck if the tension of the strings curves the neck. It is to counter the tension not the height of the string

    • @siddhichetia
      @siddhichetia Год назад +3

      ​@@cariagakenchim8479 exactly even if your neck is straight you would still have low action on the guitar sometimes you have to adjust the saddle and nut not only truss rod.

  • @pkplays5616
    @pkplays5616 Год назад +1

    Nooooooo ....First try adjusting truss rod
    "Lefty Loosy Righty Tighty", If the problem persist...go to a luthier don't do anything by yourself..

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Год назад +2

      Please watch the video carefully.. btw if you don't have the knowledge of course just don't do it. Send it to me. Thanks