Kornacki on 2024 Senate map: ‘Not a stretch to say’ Republicans very likely to get West Virginia
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
- NBC News National Political Correspondent Steve Kornacki joins Meet the Press NOW to discuss the potential shakeup to the 2024 election, after Sen. Joe Manchin’s (D-W.Va.) decision not run for re-election.
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The Democrats hold the Senate? With Manchin and Sinema, it was kind of hard to tell, wasn't it?
It's 48 - 49 with 3 left leaning independent senators, but that means laws can still be passed, they aren't democrats and the way they portray Democrats as holding the senate is misleading
@@Alien_isolationistlike it or not the Democrats have the senate not McConnell.
No matter how you slice it.
They are both legislative arsonists getting paid by BIG OIL and THE GOP
@@Alien_isolationistthe person writing this is saying that its hard to tell considering manchin and sinema sabotage the party not about independents
As a Republican, I wish every Democrat Senator was a clone of those 2. Lol!
This seat was already a republican seat
Under Joe? In all but name... Time to get a REAL Democrat back in that seat... Zachary Shrewsbury seems quite promising, TBH... I'm liking what I've seen so far...
Manchin was just a moderate Republican with a (D) in front of his name.
@@stickynorth Manchin likely would have lost the seat himself. Anyone to the left of him has no shot at winning a WV senate seat in 2024.
You’re letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. When Dems lose control of the Senate to whoever replaces McConnell as the GOP’s majority leader, we will all pine for the days of Joe Manchin and the Dems in the majority.
Machín voted with Democrats 60% of the time, you'll get 0% now
Please God save our country from all the corrupt politicians in both parties! Term limits and tax audits!
Ya, praying helps. Voting don’t 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂🤣
Praying is useless. Real people (not made up like Jesus) vote and can get rid of corrupt politicians
@@Theonetruegod-hw2ei right? 😂 just go vote. I don’t care what party someone is in, just do your part and vote and respect everyone’s decision. I do feel like there is so much unnecessary hate between democrats and republicans. My wife is a democrat and im a republican and we keep our views separate and respect eachothers views
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Tax audits - SURE. Sadly, term limits require a constitutional amendment. No current limit on terms In constitution for number of terms.
I think ads against Manchin should pin the child poverty increases on him. It is fair.
Childhood poverty is the sole problem with the parent(s). The government’s job is not to fund their home life.
@@docbrandy915, you are wrong. Children are OUR future. We have to make sure they are safe, healthy, and educated. If we don't, what will happen? We will pay for them as adults for the rest of their lives. What is more, the expanded child tax credit was very successful in fighting child poverty. Manchin, Sinema, the Republicans and you are responsible for its demise and the sharp increase in childhood poverty we are now experiencing.
@@docbrandy915 stupid, ignorant, shortsighted way to address the problem
@@docbrandy915the government's job is to take care of its citizens
@tesladrew2608 You haven't noticed, government fails at everything. How's that 50 year war on poverty going? Government takes care of illegal aliens and Ukrainians. Americans, not so much!😂😂
I thought everyone stopped looking at polls after Tuesday night!
Ikr no one learns. Lol
Remember the red wave the polls predicted that turned into a red whimper?
Where do these polls even appear? How come I've never taken a poll...
No need for polls in West Virginia. It's a solid GOP state. Only a popular DINO can win there.
🤔@@feral622
The ppl need to pick educated, moral, and ethical representatives with standards.
But then there wouldn’t be any democrats.
You can't pick them if they don't exist.
We would, except red states exist.
@@neonpanda9764 GOP don't want to teach Darwin.
@dthomas9230
What does that got to do with anything just wondering
When is Manchin's daughter going to be held accountable for her unethical and perhaps illegal actions as a drug company executive.
lol trumps kid nor biden family is being held accountable chelsey was untouched with all her fraud
When was she part of a drug company
@@happyjohn1656You can literally google this news story
Uhh Never? You can examine all 100 Senators and get the same unethical nonsense before you head to the House.
Is she running for President? If not, I don't care. I don't think it's relevant to the conversation.
NBC, please raise the height of the board for Steve. He's hunching all the time. And Steve, please use another color. Green doesn't work for a contrast color.
This guy is so good at his job. When ever he is the one that I am watching on debate he always right.
Love seeing this guy during election season.
Seem like a genuine guy for real
fr, he explains stuff nicely. (ngl it would be hilarious if he ran.)
Sinemma and Manchin were never democrats.
DINO and I'm not talkin Flintstones...
Just like Cheney and Kinzinger were never Republicans.
Manchin was centrist and sinema votes with Biden over 90%
@@Reaper-cm4jrand Romney
No they only voted with them about 90% of the time…
He knew that he couldn't win 😂
That's why Romney isn't running from Utah again.
@@Reaper-cm4jrRomney was actually popular in Utah. He just didn’t want to deal with being his party that is now filled with loony idiots.
@@alex30425 Polls show that he had no chance whatsoever of being reelected in 2024. Utah, like Wyoming, doesn't reelect politicians who betray the voters.
Partisan Politics. Betraying Voters? 🙄
He couldn’t win with biden
Idk. I just talked to a 75 yo fella yesterday. He voted for trump twice. Now he says Republicans are stupid and he isn't voting anymore.
A 75yr said the samething about democrats to me yesterday
Here's an interesting fact. In 1964, The Democrats had a 2/3 Majority in The House, and a 17 seat majority in the Senate. 60 Years latter, The GOP controls The House, and the Senate is a 50/50 split. So what happened?
@@klaus1292 doubtful. But cute fantasy you got there. 😂 the Biden Harris campaign raised more than trump DeSantis and Haley combined in q3 of 2023.
@@crismcdonough2804 Trump will overtake, que in Billionaires lol
@@klaus1292 he's toxic. They will distance themselves.
What you aren't including are the new seats in the house in 2024. There are court cases right now, about district maps in several states. Long atory short. If the predicted new black voting districts are created, and they are almost there, there will be 15 to 18 new "blue" districts but only 5 new red districts. So, if you can do simple math, that means between 10 and 13 NEW BLUE SEATS in the House. Some of these cases went to the supreme court who sent them back to the states and said to redraw their maps.
Come on blue!
gosh i really hope that pans out! but, doesn't help the senate..
A lot of people of color are turning their backs in the Democratic party because you don't think you say stupid little chance go Blue yay blue team are you serious do you understand what you're supporting you're literally supporting and fanticide child manipulation and mutilation all manner of evil unjust lockdowns communist type of people they don't care about you God open your eyes these wicked career grifters have gotten Rich were laughing at you they're laughing to the bank because of you know I'm thinking lost souls who desperately need Jesus
@@sinebaryou should call it contaminated blue because that's what the Democratic party is! corrupt contaminated corrosive.
I prayed to God when people say go Blue when it comes to the Democratic party people see behind the mantra behind the chat just like the lies of black lives matter just like the lies of antifa chance just like the lies of free Palestine chance there's always another meaning behind the chants of evil people
Gotta love gerrymandering
Since when has Munchkin been a Democrat?
Votes 88% with Joe Biden.
The most republican democrat around but not for long... Zachary Shrewsbury... Learn it, live it, love it!... ;-)
People are gonna SHOW YOU THEY AIN'T HAVING IT😂❤🎉😂
I don’t see why it’s a surprise? It’s been a Republican seat as long as Manchin has held it.
Manchin was no republican. Voted over 70% with Biden
Except Manchin votes with all the other democrats 90% of the time
A Republican who votes with Biden 80% of the time
this guy is the best on explaining all this stuff and very knowledgeable. If the Democrats lose the senate it is their own fault.
Why?
I'll answer your question with a question. If it's not their fault, who's fault is it? 😅
@@jadenalston7489 because they pushed too far left on dumb stuff that hurt most of middle and low income peoples pocket books. Duh. These last 3 years have been a disaster administration.
THANK FOR THIS UPDATE AND INFORMATION
Manchin got a good an offer ($$$$$$) to quit from someone in the magaverse.
Why is there only two parties in the fedaral and state legislarures in the US?In a lot of European countries there are so many parties that a coalition is a must to form gov't.
It is incredibly difficult to create a national party in the US so most attempts at a 3rd party fizzle out either due to being a one-issue platform or the inability to appeal to a wider audience for whatever reason. There are more Democrats or Republicans than there are people in Germany, and there is a lot of inertia in the system because of that. In the states, there is more variety and smaller parties can elect some people to office, but it is a very hard task to create recognition for your platform, get voters to vote for you, and grow a party.
One simple reason: the winner take all voting structure. Whoever gets the most votes a congressional district (or state for the Senate or President) gets the whole thing and no other party gets anything out of it. Even if they got millions of votes. European parliamentary democracies don't ignore those other votes. Parties get representation proportional to how many votes they got, which allows small parties to exist.
2:23 I very much disagree with Steve here, and I usually don’t. She does NOT side with Democrats. Maybe with committee assignments for now, but not anywhere else.
He just said that she caucuses with the Democrats, which is factually true. She is a member of the Senate Democratic Caucus, regardless of how she votes.
Funny how most of the time she votes with Democrats. Sometimes she votes with Republicans and that gets a lot of media exposure.
Sinema votes with Democrats 67% of the time. Your extremism is going to come back to bite you
She votes with Biden over 90% of the time.
Except according to Real Clear Politics she votes with the democrats 84% of the time
Put up LITERALLY ALMOST any person against these 2 and I bet that they do even better than RFK Jr. Ranked choice voting now please.
No
Rank choice voting is the only way a 3rd party can win. The 2 party system will never allow it to happen as long as possible.
Great job Steve!!!
I luv Steve ❤
Steve's the man, but where are his khakis and white shirt?
There was a republican in that seat in the first place.
Media always obssessed about elections😮. Elections matter but they cover elections 2days away, 1 week away, 1 year away, 10 years away😂
Writing with green on blue, brilliant colour choice there Kornacki!
I'm not colour blind myself, but I am aware that some are :)
Hi - I always like posts that make me look stuff up, and it's great you were thoughtful about this. However, the Wikipedia article "Color blindness" said this: "A color blind person will have decreased (or no) color discrimination along the red-green axis, blue-yellow axis, or both." I learned something there, and I think we don't need to worry about these charts. Please stay kind, and vote accordingly.
Its already held by a republican. His name is Manchin
How does it feel being so stupid?
I hope for the day we see 35 independents in the Senate that don’t vote along any party line but look at each issue individually.
Very likely? You can bet the farm that WV will go deep red.
They also thought that with Dr. Oz in Ohio and well? FETTERMAN happened... Zachary Shrewsbury seems like he's cut from the same true blue progressive cloth...
@@stickynorth yeah, if democrats can find a candidate that has a shot, they can win in west virginia, there's been huge support for bernie sanders there the past several years. it's definitely a red state, but democrats can win there AND, lately, democrats have been winning where they usually don't.
@@andrewroberts7428 That's because Democrats lie, cheat, and steal.
Actually it’s possible that it doesn’t go that red . Look at kentucky . A very red state re elected a democrat by 5 points
@@Daniel-bn4wpreelected a popular incumbent governor* Kentucky voted red down ballot and has a veto proof Republican supermajority. Vermont has a Republican governor but it's still a blue state federally. WV is not going blue for the Senate.
All the US politics polls are kind of flat and skewed as outcomes are mainly the opposite 😢
How many were polled and where?
The truth be told, Polls are not a true indicator. Most polls are based on the opinion of 1,000 people
I’ve always disliked Joe Manchin. I would rather have him gone anyway. Then we will deal with the fallout from it. But better gone in the long run to even just eek out a Democratic win in the future. I just disliked him tremendously politically.
Are you saying there gonna be a red wave
Yep
@@MarkJones13453nah. The recent elections have a clue
The thing is that they don’t need a red wave to flip 1 or 2 senate seats!…. If they keep the house, take the senate and Trump wins…. It’s game over for our democracy!
Doubt it. Lucky to get the majority. I think we get WV and maybe one more if that. Definitely not Pennsylvania Casey is way to popular here. I pray we get the Senate because the house is probably gone for us
No, but most likely a Trump trifecta (52R senate, very very narrow R house, and trump wins 286-252)
It’s not a stretch to say this shouldn’t be a close race. It shouldn’t even come close at all.
Yeah and how did that go?
I think Republicans flip WV, OH and MT to get to 52 seats. Republicans hold onto all theirs.
One can only hope.
West Virginia is like that abusive spouse you stayed with even though you never knew when the next beating was going to come, Or they would threaten you they would leave and you’d be nothing. Let him go
Where's the dramatic music? Que the Steve Kornacki live analysis music please. 😁😁😁
I’m kind of curious which seats in senate are up for election this year
“Official channel skepticism” is a very nice way to say conspiracy theorist.
Best case scenario for next year is 50/50 split
53 rep the best case
Best case for who?
@@staleydu1for the country
@@ctrlw__7-years-ago you tell me which party controls the White House and the other party should have 51. That’s best for the country
Can you guys at MSNBC fix your audio encoder? The audio is always dropping frames of audio for the last few weeks. It's something in how you cut the video and upload to RUclips, every one of these clips has audio drops speckled throughout the clip...
Wow Kennedy moving up. We might see him on the debate stage
That would certainly make things interesting.
RFK Probably steals votes from Trump. No Biden voter would vote RFK because he is not pro-Jewish like Biden and is anti-vaccine.
TRUMP2024!!!!
Soooooo.... Dose anyone believe in these polls anymore. Because I haven't an accurate one since before bush...
Very interesting analysis!!!
It is too early to make these predictions. Trump has been campaigning whereas President Biden has not started yet. Once he starts campaigning these numbers will change. Our media's polls have been wrong a lot these days.
Amen.
The polling usually favors the D and under predicts the R.
@@docbrandy915 Not recently, the Republicans have been taking a hiding since Roe V Wade, and they are still doubling down on it.
@@docbrandy915Really? Do you forgot how the media pushed the Red Wave😏
If Biden starts campaigning Trump's lead will increase even more
If turnout is high then Texas might flip. Ken Paxton, the attorney general of Texas, said he threw out over 2 million mail in ballot votes last time though. I hope the FBI looks into that.
😂😂😂
@@secretname4190this bull has been said for 30 years. Texas is never flipping.
@@ZacharySkipworthI wouldn't say never, but to flip for a the most unpopular president in history is not gonna happen. (That's Biden if anyone's wondering)
@@Distress. valid point, I think it going to take the party to shift away from this new version of corporate democratic politics back to the working class for it to happen.
Don’t ruin my TX. Go back to California!
It's a shitshow!! Welcome to the US.
Manchin had no shot for another term.
If it were not Justice running, he might have had a shot. But Justice has the coal vote over Joe now.
We will make America great again
What a mess
We can only hope
I don't understand how a solid Red state like Montana could have a Democratic senator.
Could it be, gasp, that actually lots of people vote for the candidate who works hardest to represent them and do good for the nation? Did you watch the election results on Tuesday night. Democratic governor of Kentucky, anyone?
Same is true for Vermont - republican govenor, but also votes for Bernie
@@gnirolnamlerf593Republicans in Kentucky won the other statewide races by very wide margins.
Because his 2nd term was in a blue wave year, no presidential election.
Its going to be very difficult for him to hold on this time.
@@notmyrealname6150that’s because the dem candidates weren’t like Andy beshear.
Please God save our country from all the corrupt Democrats...
You mentioned Repub. It's ok
What about Florida? They are not doing well and Desantis stinks as a governor. Could it flip?
🥴 They aren’t going to flip! 🙄
Right after Massachussets goes republican
The seat at min was already stopping the Dem agenda. So You are losing at worse half a seat. Which you can't do much with. On top of that Manchin was killing the Branding which is violently underrated.
I'm thinking both chambers of Congress flip parties in control next year.
just like the red wave in 2022 right?
@@mugenx3340
Only because they only need 1 seat to flip the Senate. I hope my fellow citizens vote logically.
That would be weird
No they need 1 to tie 2 to flip unless Trump wins.
Yeah that’s a possibility but I think republicans narrowly hold the house. 2 seats in the Deep South isn’t enough for dems to take back the house and they still have some candidates like Cartwright and Katpur who could easily go down.
A vote for No Labels is a vote for Trump.
Let's take the senate also GOP.
Kristin Welker should just go work for FOX.
As an good night
Brave of them to assume Hawaii would vote blue
It majority Asian of course it would vote blue
@stevenplayzzz172, I'm referring the the aftermath of the volcanoes and the testimony of the Hawaiian people themselves
@@greenlightstudios3816 I do think it will trend a bit to the right but still safe d.
This guy either is so conditioned in tagging support for senate races to a presidential candidate, or he forgets recent history. Dumpster-endorsed candidates do very bad at elections!
Kornaki is the premier Data-wonk, I truly believe the man is committed to just reading numbers and trends. Remember, we've got good momentum, but we can't reject bad news because we don't like it.
Obama backed candidates don't do well either. Just ask Hillary.
@@JustTheRealMrBill No Doubt.
@@cameronmcleod8419Data was wrong about the red wave and Kentucky.
😂😂😂 West Virginia has been almost completely red for a long time. What has that got the state? It's one of the poorest states in the nation. I guess they like the status quo.
You mean like commiefornia and new York. States going bankrupt
New Mexico has been almost completely blue for a long time. What has that got the state? It's one of the poorest states in the nation, even poorer than West Virginia. I guess they like the status quo?
It all has to with if Dominion programs the machines like they did in 2020.
Vote for democracy vote blue 💙 👍
Vote for democracy don’t vote either. Republicans are divided and democrats are united with hatred and dictatorship
no thanks I don’t love my $4 gas
@@TesterIsDoneelectric car is the future
@@carlosarriaga7428 trump is the future
@@TesterIsDone yeah u hilarious
I can’t believe she can show her face after being embarrassed at the debates like that. 😂😂😂😂😂
Who?
he's a con man, no wonder you're falling for him. Dude flip flops more than pancakes, and his entire startup in the pharmacy business was based on a scam.@@bigtime9589
Vivek won’t even be around in politics too long. He’s vying for some cabinet seat or other contract gig. These people come and go all the time. Makes no sense to pucker up and play macho
Did you copy the wrong message for this video?
She’s here, but Vivek wont be for
long on TV after Republibrats get another minorities hopes up just to throw him down when it’s time to select a red faced clown from Florida.
It isn't a stretch to say the Republicans already had west Virginia
Please raise my taxes said all thee little democat voters, it's what they like😒
they are 100% getting WV.
dUH! LOL!
I was elated to hear that Manchin won't be seeking reelection, one less Democrat to help the radicalized Party's quest to destroy America.
snore
Imagine North Dakota with a population of 700,000 has the same vote in Congress as New York with 22,000,000. Basically grass and mountains decide how American citizens live.
Dear TaxChurches, you are WRONG. In the SENATE, ND and NY both have 2 senators each. In the HOUSE of Representatives, NY has 26 representatives while ND has only ONE.
So, NO, New York and North Dakota do NOT have equal representation in Congress. NY has more.
Read a book. Learn facts. It’s pretty simple.
@@OldRustySteele Get real. I'm glad you know these things the rest of us learned in 7th grade. Trump was impeached by the Democratic House and found Not Guilty by the Republican Senate. Those 2 ND senators chose to put America through this clown nightmare again in 2024.
Threeway with sinema sounds about right
Nice video of the day.❤🎉. 0:26 .
After Tuesday gone an midterms Red Wave, id ignore this Guy😊...
Call me the optimist but I think Brown and Tester both narrowly hang on; they're both very popular unlike Manchin and Montana and Ohio aren't as red as West Virginia
Montana is trump+15 stop kidding yourself
@GreenCat9013 “If Bullock can win in a safe state, he can win in a safe state for senate”
@GreenCat9013 he had similar numbers in 2017/2018 until election season where it cratered.
@GreenCat9013 he outperformed Hillary by 7
Obviously you haven’t seen the recent Deomocrat wins?
We need the senate
What are they talking about?? They have No idea how regular people think, that y they're shocked wen Dems win!😅😅
Like when Biden won Florida? When Hillary won North Carolina? When Ryan defeated Vance?
@DaddyBeshear That was 2016.They have not won since,my point!
Instead of worrying about Biden, they need to check on their dude,who ain't no spring chicken!😅
@@stephaniebrooks8044 remember when dems won Florida and Texas and North Carolina in 2020? I’d call preventing dems from blowing out Trump and saving senate/house republicans a win.
@@stephaniebrooks8044but they are not about to let a welfare single mother and her three kids be some "respected" family standard. It wasn't like this in 2016 and 2018 and the hard work and virtues of people who made more sacrifices and have self-control are under attack.
I wouldn't be surprised if Hawaii turn red after what happened
How depressing
My boy
Since the last election a large amount of people from the DC area moved into the suburbs of WV changing the demographics.
@@JustTheRealMrBill bringing with them new homes, roads, schools, businesses and traffic. Plus a ton of Amazon fulfillment centers!
Since 2022? Since dems didn’t do that good in 2022… just saying 20 people moving from Maryland to a R+50 state won’t flip it when an open progressive is the dem nominee…
his presentation is the best explanation for a lack of democracy. CA = MT 😀
Your highlight color is almost impossible to see on my laptop. Try another color please.
We seem to be addicted to the theater of it all.
Exactly. I love how they do the county break downs in the middle of the votes coming in and their like comparing it and scrutinizing it. Like how about wait 2 hours and we'll know😂😂
I can't believe anyone would vote for Kennedy. If that poll is correct (which I highly doubt), a huge chunk of the U.S. population have lost their minds.
you didn't figure that out after 2016?
Did you forget who was president before Biden?
The crazy thing to me is his family is famous for being democrats and the republicans love him. He pulls more votes from Trump than Biden. He is as crazy as a loon and his own family does not support him. These definately are different times.
@@baalmoloch4933 Trump is now more unpopular than at any point in his adult life. Republicans are going to under perform everywhere. Just like they have in nearly every election over the past 3 years.
In 2023, polls can't be trusted. Many polls are still conducted by calling landlines. That means only old people get the chance to respond. Even when cell phones are included, the vast majority of people ignore calls from numbers they don't recognize.
Yes, WV but not the senate.
Who are you guys kidding
Forbes reports that there are over 2,600 billionaires in the world, with 735 of them from the U.S. alone.
and half of them are new billionaires after trump gave them 8 trillion in ta cuts
@@davediamond7228 Don't worry join the military, plenty of jobs in world war Biden!
@@davediamond7228Idc about billionaires. Those cuts didn’t help me
We forget that Manchin isn’t a democrat. He’s a republican in a blue suit.
This is one of the only guys who is straight down the line
I knew that before he retired. I would have called it Likely R then but now it’s a Solid / Safe R.
We get the government we deserve. If we can't recognize the GOP threat of a fascist authoritarian theocracy that it is, then we deserve to be ruled by them.
Wrong party. Dems are already fascists and have been
I want what ever is going to increase my 401k and make sure inflation disappear; I don’t care about anyone or anything else.
Except we innocent bystanders who oppose the authoritarian rule do NOT deserve what the magats voted for.
what exactly did Trump do that was fascist or authoritarian? please explain. I'll bet you won't answer because you can't. However, I CAN tell you what the Democrats have done that is authoritarian. That part is easy.
You should try to step out of the echo chamber sometime, its much nicer and more logical on the outside
trump 2024 for the win.
All this is based on integrity, which imo there is absolutly zero.
Use smaller dots.