Seriously man, your videos are simply SO beautiful and inspiring. I really enjoyed listening to your tale and even more learning your interesting technique. I will definitely be trying this myself. This is one of the coolest thing about this hobby. Discovering interesting techniques were you least expect them. And you put it to great use and share it with the rest of us in an absolutely wonderful way. Thank you very much and keep irritating the family! ;)
Well thank you D! It’s what I hope to do, not so much the specific tips but just play around and try fun things to inspire me and hopefully others. Anyway. I appreciate your comments :)
This is why I love this channel, I learn something new every time! I would never have thought of using the crystal effects as a painting mask for chopping! Look forward to seeing what effects you get in larger models like vehicles and such. Thank you for sharing this with us!
That worked better than I suspected it would. Also, because I am now an Ancient One™, there was a part of my brian that went "We've replaced our regular chipping medium with Folgers Crystals - let's see what happens". Also the flourescent highlights are, as one might expect, brilliant. Cheers!
Yeah! I would like to try on larger surfaces.. and let the crystals grow a bit more. All in all it was fun that it worked out. And yes, just adding a thin layer of flour on the top highlights really just make them go “HIGHLIGHT” without looking overly fluorescent. Thanks H!’
You can use pickling salt to do the same thing. Just dab water where you want and add the salt. Love those orks and the video gave me some great ideas for mine
@@52Miniatures Wow I'm baffled. Thank you so much for the reply! I'm a total newbie and got myself some Scale75 paints. How common is it for you to paint Scale75 paints without thinning? The thinning part is the tough part for me. Thinking about painting straight from the bottle
@@Hannah11876 I never thin when I wetblend, which is what I did on the parrot. But when I paint "normally" I always thin paints. The scale75 paints are great that way, they can be thinned a lot and still do the trick :)
Super wicked!! I can see these guys sitting around a table bragging and trying to one up each other with the parrot squawking calling them out on ther exaggeration of the real events of past.
Orcs chatting at a bar about scars before that one Boi in the back brings up his investment in Orc Realestate. Great image right there thanks to the intro ngl. But jokes aside, that's one heck of a creative way of doing chipping. Been wanting to get some things from GSW, the liquid frost included for my current army bases. So seeing it used for this it totally something I want to try now, So thanks for the great video once again Alex! ^^
@@52Miniatures Oh that's for sure. I am sure eventually even an Orc needs a cool drink, kick back and relax. After all, what's the fun of epic adventures if you can't brag about how many 'umies you killed at the end of the day! And you're welcome
Alex, your creativity level is way over 9000! I just started painting some dirty and rusty Death Guard and you gave me some ideas! Wonderful video, as always :)
Sometimes I wish I could just sit down and paint a mini, without all the 9000 😂 but hey 🤷🏼♂️ I’ll just have to stick to the experiments I guess. You doing well?
@@52Miniatures Let me just say, that you shouldn't fall into this trap where you feel like you need to outdo yourself with every video. You have a wonderful and distinctive painting style and a magnetic personality. I bet there are thousands of others just like me, who would gladly watch you paint anything as long as you talk us through your thought process. As for me, first of all, thanks for asking, and secondly I'm doing really well. After months of painting necrons and space marines I've just finished a Death Guard model and it felt liberating and refreshing! I've learned a lot over the last few months and it shows and I couldn't be happier!
@@52Miniatures I have thought about trying out fantasy, and then I discovered a small local club with a few people playing 40k and I suddenly feel like I really want to finish at least one good army, and there's a new Kill Team coming out, and I don't even have a single fantasy model, and there's just that many hours in a day... excuses, I know, but it takes me a week to finish one minature which means I have to be very picky about what I paint. I do love orcs though, and that Dominion box was very tempting... unfortunately, the wife wouldn't let me buy it. Oh well. I can always watch you paint some amazing fantasy stuff! :)
Very creative way to use the liquid frost (the video on that stuff was how I found your channel)! It is a bit on the expensive side for chipping medium, but than again it has other uses. I which there was a way to strengthen the crystals, without damaging them also. I would love to use that stuff on my gaming models. I think it is strong enough in small layers, but not in crystal form.
Thanks W! You could try an easy brushing thin superglue over them, it works... sort of. But maybe still not table top durability. What we need is self growing metallic crystals. Now that would be terminator kind of future.
My liquid frost just "melted" on its own after a few weeks of sitting on some of my frost-army-minis, which i had to clean of very carefully.. since then I never used it again but now, I can recycle it. Thank you!
Did you varnish it? That stuff does not like varnish... anyway, sorry to hear it. Maybe it doesn’t like moisture? Hope the chipping works out better :)
@@52Miniatures I varnished the minis month's before applying the liquid frost. Since I already painted them way ahead of the release of this product. I store my minis in a dark, dry and well ventilated area. So no extreme tempratures or extremely dry or moist conditions. I asked GreenStuff for help, but unfortunately the answer was something like: "something like this can happen." - I'll try the chipping-technique soon. Thanks for that!
On the subject of varnish and oils, I've found it is necessary to varnish *after* applying oil-based paints if you want to add any more acrylic layers on top. Otherwise, the residual oil tends to repel the water-based paints. Maybe not an issue if you let the oils fully cure, but like you, I get impatient sometimes waiting to move on to the next step. 😃
My varnish is getting relepped from the mini even after curing completely and I'm a little bit confused as to what to do :_) I admit it was a pretty heavy coat of oil paint for wetblendig but is has been sitting there for almost a month
@@miguelgilcasas3560 I usually spray on my varnish, and I use artist gloss varnish (like Liquitex) for intermediate layers. I think varnish from the art store is formulated to go over oils, maybe more than hobby varnishes. The other thing you could try is putting the mini under a heat lamp (carefully if it's plastic!), that's supposed to help cure oil paints. Good luck!
Don't believe I'll use that particular trick, but the valuable lesson about remembering to also use stuff outside of it's intended use, will come in handy. (American Gods is a blast to read so far. Almost finished it. Thanks for the recommendation!)
Amazing video, as always. Seeing that beautiful red wooden house along a gravel road makes me want to go back on holiday to beautiful Sweden. Perhaps next summer (I chicken out on going to your beautiful country in winter). Keep up the good work and all the best from the (also beautiful, but very crowded) Netherlands.
I will admit to not reading through the entirety of the comments, however, I did catch your reference to Archimedes. Perhaps you have discovered that an amount of paint can be displaced by an equal amount of medium? Thank you for your videos.
Great video as always, drone footage is always awesome. In terms of constructive criticism, I feel like rule "less is more" should be almost always applied when one is chipping. Details can be lost and overall composition can be overwhelmed by chipping effect. I'm not saying I don't like how your orks turned out, but I would use this effect less.
Awesome stuff as always mate, I guess your crystal style is similar to the salt crystal approach people use? I tend to use chipping medium, or a sponge with silver paint if I’m being exceptionally lazy or painting large quantities They came out brilliantly kudos
It’s very similar to salt Tom, only this grows on its own and salt doesn’t. Salt on the other hand is cheap... almost for free if one considers the kitchen factor. Liquid Frost is not in the super cheap range :)
Nice idea and another cool video. If you are looking for a simple materials and application technique for chippin go for the Salt-Technique. It pretty simple and everyone can do it. Cheers, keep up the good work.
Although I would swear your rythm of talking would appeal to me, it somehow does. Your pronunciation along with the torrent of details somehow calm me down ( lol ) and I manage to actually watch all the video. Amazing job!
Interesting idea, actually, I don't see this kind of stuff coming around in general among the classic channels about painting ministures and adding various effects.
My content does tend to be a bit random, as I want to share whatever it is that I’m doing. I’m not really much into figuring out what viewers might want to see... I kind of do the reverse. Thanks K!
@@52Miniatures Oh, that's actually one of the reason your channel is often very surprising and interesting. As you don't follow a clear plan or guideline, you bring sometimes amazing tips or sources of inspiration. Please keep going that way! ^^
Ok, I'm in just for the parrot part ;) If you ever want to go over the top display quality and there's a parrot in the composition I'd say to add some kind of scars and or birb poo. The arm where pirate's parrots live always look 10 times older than the regular arm, like just that one went to war and the other half ork was at the sofa the whole time ;D Now you mention (luck vs orks) fluff wise, I don't know now (GW) but earlier orks were super-sticious, to the point one clan sported blue warpaint (snakebites) and all orks knew red made vehicles 'go fasta' xD This video got my brain juices going TBH. Quimically speaking I bet you are using the premium equivalent of the salt & hairspray method but all in 1 convenient application. Nice finding Alex! I'd say yes. Even if you apply a transparent glaze of fluorescent color, not noticeable to the naked eye, you are effectively changing how light bounces into the object. Try that: take non flue colors like green stuff world washes and inks and look at the under black lights. You'll find there are non fluorescent colors that use fluorescent pigments on its formulation so they have enough punch. As a closing though I'd say it's not matter of finding randomness but working it out: even using sponge techniques what makes masterpieces is control over the final product so in the end it's all about of getting a mean to start randomness patterns to get refined later by brush so you reinforce the random looking. If you don't mind the extra work (that comes right after) a wash mattie up results before tidying and weathering. Loving the star grave content so far. May you end having enough variety of minis to play indies like reality's Edge, rogue stars, etc. Indie warpaint books are so full of great ideas... Cheers pal!
Aye, but that is just fact right? Red goes faster! That’s why Ferrari’s are red and all the other cars are like grey, white and black? Although... once upon a time Marlboro was faster... anyway. So glad I saved that bird. I think it’s from a tombstone from a Nighthaunt mini. I am coming closer to accepting the fact that all the various bits acquired is my greatest treasure... I think it was probably you who gave me the flou tip to start with. And it really does work. Especially in “daylight” those highlights just shout. And with the chipping, It can be done even better. A gloss varnish to help the crystals spread, and not so many layers of too diluted paint.. paint that in sense melted the finest crystals. Also on something larger, letting the crystals grow larger. I think it could be a thing. Thanks J!
The infinity minis are trying to shoot their way out of a small cardboard box. Not to far in the future, they will find their grenades and blast their way on to my table and become my Stargrave crew :)
@@ODonnchadhaBrian Ah! I mean... it's lovely. I still haven't got into detail work but just the feel of the trigger is way different from.. the other one.. neo? I forget. All of a sudden it feels like I'm dealing with a persision instrument.
Cyborcs.... made me giggle Proud battlescars and scars from drunkenly falling out of a hammock - check! (Now I'll look at heavily scarred orcs in a new light - is he a beserk battle hammer of a warrior? Or has he heaped broken glass under his hammock to fool us all! Great cyberhook, but did he lose that hand in battle? Or does he pitch his hammock over a crocodile pit just for effect???) The Order of the Bloody Nightshirt is now a thing, and soon to be a banner. And yes, orcs do wear blue and white striped nightshirts and a crash helmet when sleeping in a hammock. Love a vid about chipping being introduced over a beautiful piece of inspirational hardware, with really varied rust patterns on different component parts. That's a gorgeous vehicle btw I now have a more generally applicable use for my liquid frost too Rusting and chipping for me is all in the tiny contrasting touches that make a line look like a deep scratch, or pick up the edges where the crust meets paint. Little dots and lines along one side or another to make the transition look 3d Great vid as always both in content and in production values, more Stargrave haul models!!! ;0)
Thank you A! One of the reasons I love these different orc faces, they bring another character level that’s so fun to build on. Not just the Whhaag head bashing, but also the hammock and the striped nightshirt. I’m a bit sad about having finished all the Stargrave orcs now, but also stoked for the next batch of “ruffians” (non orc). Perhaps not as charming but pretty rough :) The chipping was fun, and as you said, another use for a fun product that does tend to be slightly unused. I’m looking forward to trying it on larger surfaces. Stay well!!
@@52Miniatures You need to bite the bullet and shape an orc army, not just the figures but the vehicles, bases, buildings, terrain and the story, so much kitbashing and that love of painting stories to be had! Go on! you know you love them!
@@52Miniatures Fantasy swamp orcs definitely sleep in hammocks! They don't even need to pile broken glass underneath, there's a black, barbed, swamp bamboo that can grow up overnight in any patch of recent moon-shadow. Any say that's obscured by a bedroll or especially a newly pitched hammock. It's known as the Moonshy Bloodrose, because if something does bleed on it, the plant absorbs and uses the nutrient to flower in small tight blossom sprays that can (by those that know their swamp lore) then be dried and powdered to mix with certain swamp slimes and animal fat to make a nasty blade venom that doesn't keep long but guarantees wounds will be gangrenous and fester horribly. It's not widely known in the North, but in the deep southern reaches, they speak of the orcish swamp hag known as Black Rosie, she was famous for her summonings and sendings of moonshy blood bats who's claws dripped the stuff and from whom even a scratch would mortify if the limb wasn't promptly cut away and cauterized under a bright enough moon.The same legends speak of her "sons", the rose wreathed zombies she could supposedly use her cauldron to raise from any festering corpse that died of these black wounds. They again were susceptible to the light of the moon but stories say she'd have them burrow into the swampmud till the bright moon passed and the waning allowed her children to rise and slake their relentless blood thirst. Hushed stories speak of the sound of their coming, footfalls hissing with the sound of the tearing away of tiny roots and barbs, the horror of trying to break out from a night encircled camp, or one of those many once night besieged outlying farmsteads that you can see abandoned and rotting bordering the Blackmire, good land gone fallow and treacherous
This looks trashy in all the right ways, almost as if the damage and exposed metal builds up to a chaotic uniform. I might need to up my metallic game with this on my KO models; perhaps to a less extreme extent as they are Dwaves whom I imagine are very well regimented, but it would be fun to experiment with chipping on otherwise precise armour.
i think you need a channel name change, 52 miniatures doesnt capture the uniqueness and artistic talent of your videos, both in the content and how you make the video itself.
Well, it captures how it all started indeed. I feel it's been a journey for Alex from getting the AOS box and getting back to his childhood hobby to this point where he looks like going his own path. In-between there were lots of 1st tries and ramblings which are still part of the journey and IMHO still have impact to some extent on his newer contents.
Phew chipping is a hard topic! Like a science on its own. I do understand where you are coming from, and appreciate your effort to find a third solution next to chipping medium and hand painting chipping. Yet I feel neither of these 3 methods work well individually, or at least have to be applied in a more complex way. 1. Painting chipping by hand lacks randomnes and takes a lot of effort, as you point out. But this can be solved by painting those chips with different brushes and foremost sponges. But sponges are very hard to control. 2. Your method to me feels like lacking the clear cut between the layers, its not as flaky or 3D. The borders of the chips created by your method look more smooth and less abrupt. Also due to its growing nature it seems to be hard to create very tiny chips. Maybe the brush-against-toothpick method could achieve that. 3. The success of chipping medium largely depends on the tools used to scrape off the top layer. If you vary that between soft and hard brushes or the hobby knife, you can make it look really random. As with all things I believe its a matter of combining and varying methods if you really want to push it. This can go as far as multi-layering chipping medium or hand-edgehighlighting chipping to create a 3D effekt. Also both using a knife on chipping medium as well as handpainting chippings allow you to create scratches and a bit more dynamic chipping, something your method cannot achieve. The best effort-to-result ratio I have found myself, is by using a minimally loaded sponge and darker-than-basecoat paint first, and then coming in and selectively underhighlighting some of the "chips" with a brighter-than-basecoat paint.
Thanks Volker! Yeah, you’ve pretty much summarized what was going on in my head. The cool thing with the liquid frost is that it actually does web out in very thin “scratches”... but only here and there, and in the end I manage to highlight over a lot of the fine detail. I think a layer of gloss varnish, to help the liquid spread, and more patients to let it grow would be a good thing. Also figuring out what goes on top. My several layers of “zenithal” kind of drenched the crystals in places. Making me think the one covering layer of pretty thick consistency paint would be optimal. I’m hoping a revisit, on maybe a slightly larger surface. To see how that works out. But I definitely agree with you, a combination of techniques is not to be shunned.
Drone footage in a minipainting video. Gotta love it.
The darn minis are so small though! 😂 Thanks!
What an innovative use of a product not meant for how it was used! Excellent always!
Came for the interesting chipping technique, stayed for the slowmo wide shot of a red barn. Great job as always!
Thanks L! Next time I need a real size orc to charge through the barn...
@@52Miniatures I know some lajvare in vestmanland who would be happy to oblige XD
I feel like I'm watching lord of the rings. Best production value in miniature videos!
Thanks L! Only I’ve lost my darn ring while fishing and can’t seem to find it.
Seriously man, your videos are simply SO beautiful and inspiring. I really enjoyed listening to your tale and even more learning your interesting technique. I will definitely be trying this myself.
This is one of the coolest thing about this hobby. Discovering interesting techniques were you least expect them. And you put it to great use and share it with the rest of us in an absolutely wonderful way. Thank you very much and keep irritating the family! ;)
Well thank you D! It’s what I hope to do, not so much the specific tips but just play around and try fun things to inspire me and hopefully others. Anyway. I appreciate your comments :)
@@52Miniatures You're very welcome. :D Keep 'em coming and i'll keep enjoying them.
There is a level of artistry in these videos I don't see elsewhere. I find them really enjoyable and inspiring.
Man, your work continues to astound me in its story, painting, the whole artistic thing. Thank you very much for the content.
My pleasure Dan, and thank you.
The storytelling aspect of this chanel is just stellar. I feel like I gained some XP of a sort everytime a video ends 😊
Thank you!
The music in the beginning left me feeling like I was once again hunting centaurs near wailing caverns in the barrens.
Are they not on the endangered species list?
The production value on these videos is amazing
Thanks Carl!
This is why I love this channel, I learn something new every time! I would never have thought of using the crystal effects as a painting mask for chopping! Look forward to seeing what effects you get in larger models like vehicles and such. Thank you for sharing this with us!
Thanks Andy! And yeah, I agree, looking forward to trying this on something large.
I love the cross-pollination of ideas and materials! Great, innovative use of the liquid frost and the fluo highlights.
Thank you Emily. A mini, for me, seldom seems to be a simple straight forward thing 😂
Your narrative style and cinematography is great.
Thanks C, I appreciate it.
My spirit animal is a space orc pirate, thanks for sharing and have a great day. Please stay safe.
Good luck with your spirit animal’s parrot Rob!
That worked better than I suspected it would. Also, because I am now an Ancient One™, there was a part of my brian that went "We've replaced our regular chipping medium with Folgers Crystals - let's see what happens". Also the flourescent highlights are, as one might expect, brilliant. Cheers!
Yeah! I would like to try on larger surfaces.. and let the crystals grow a bit more. All in all it was fun that it worked out. And yes, just adding a thin layer of flour on the top highlights really just make them go “HIGHLIGHT” without looking overly fluorescent. Thanks H!’
Gonna love that outside the box thinking.
Thanks B! I do try to use all the bottles 😂
Lovely to see an upload!
Thank you!
Thank you - your videos are always a treat for me.
Thank you David, I appreciate it.
These boys look like that have a good time on and off the battlefield. Good to whoever runs across these goons in their Stargrave encounters.
Yeah. That’s the great thing. I’ll be hoping to get to encounter these on the table :)
I love it. I have an ork crew for Stargrave, and are using imperial guard and space marines for the unwanted attention minions
That is a lovely idea! Absolutely lovely.
that liquid frost stuff is amazing - great tip 52!
Thanks CC!
Miniac brought me here, and I don't regret it ! Subscribed
I’m glad to hear it. Welcome E!
That is a nice twist on the chopping process! very ingenious. sir!!
Thank you N!
Dude! I love how creative you are. I'll be trying this on my deathguard!
Thanks B! And good luck :)
I love this aesthetic...your orky boiz are saturated with the groovy!
Thanks Lucy! It was refreshing to get the shouty colors out. I had fun :)
You can use pickling salt to do the same thing. Just dab water where you want and add the salt. Love those orks and the video gave me some great ideas for mine
Thanks R! The orcs have been a fun ride :)
This was really clever. Love how it turned out and the explanation.
Thank you P, I appreciate it.
I just love your videos. Thanks for sharing this cool technique, will definitively try it out!
My pleasure F! Thank you and good luck!
I love seeing how this channel grew
Yeah it sky rocketed if you compare now with the 'my first time doing [x]' videos ☺
I’m very happy for it, and great full. But also work hard on the videos, so I’m glad to se that pay off.
From 6:50 onwards you are painting blue, which appears to be not thinned. May I ask if it is right out of the bottle? Which brand is it?
Scale75 right out of the bottle. Not totally sure of what I used... probably "Mediterranean blue" or something along those lines.
@@52Miniatures Wow I'm baffled. Thank you so much for the reply! I'm a total newbie and got myself some Scale75 paints. How common is it for you to paint Scale75 paints without thinning? The thinning part is the tough part for me. Thinking about painting straight from the bottle
@@Hannah11876 I never thin when I wetblend, which is what I did on the parrot. But when I paint "normally" I always thin paints. The scale75 paints are great that way, they can be thinned a lot and still do the trick :)
Super wicked!! I can see these guys sitting around a table bragging and trying to one up each other with the parrot squawking calling them out on ther exaggeration of the real events of past.
That’s what I had in mind too! :)
Orcs chatting at a bar about scars before that one Boi in the back brings up his investment in Orc Realestate. Great image right there thanks to the intro ngl.
But jokes aside, that's one heck of a creative way of doing chipping. Been wanting to get some things from GSW, the liquid frost included for my current army bases. So seeing it used for this it totally something I want to try now, So thanks for the great video once again Alex! ^^
Yeah :) I mean, every one needs some time of and a chat with friends right? :) Thanks Aleria! Appreciated as always.
@@52Miniatures Oh that's for sure. I am sure eventually even an Orc needs a cool drink, kick back and relax. After all, what's the fun of epic adventures if you can't brag about how many 'umies you killed at the end of the day! And you're welcome
Excellent and creative! Love it!!!
Thanks Josh!
Alex, your creativity level is way over 9000! I just started painting some dirty and rusty Death Guard and you gave me some ideas! Wonderful video, as always :)
Sometimes I wish I could just sit down and paint a mini, without all the 9000 😂 but hey 🤷🏼♂️ I’ll just have to stick to the experiments I guess. You doing well?
@@52Miniatures Let me just say, that you shouldn't fall into this trap where you feel like you need to outdo yourself with every video. You have a wonderful and distinctive painting style and a magnetic personality. I bet there are thousands of others just like me, who would gladly watch you paint anything as long as you talk us through your thought process. As for me, first of all, thanks for asking, and secondly I'm doing really well. After months of painting necrons and space marines I've just finished a Death Guard model and it felt liberating and refreshing! I've learned a lot over the last few months and it shows and I couldn't be happier!
@@acidcoen Thanks RK! I will keep this in mind :) But hey.. how a bout a fantasy mini to paint?
@@52Miniatures I have thought about trying out fantasy, and then I discovered a small local club with a few people playing 40k and I suddenly feel like I really want to finish at least one good army, and there's a new Kill Team coming out, and I don't even have a single fantasy model, and there's just that many hours in a day... excuses, I know, but it takes me a week to finish one minature which means I have to be very picky about what I paint. I do love orcs though, and that Dominion box was very tempting... unfortunately, the wife wouldn't let me buy it. Oh well. I can always watch you paint some amazing fantasy stuff! :)
@@acidcoen All good RK! I'll get to those orcs eventually for you :)
That worked so well! Great video
Thank you as always!
Sweet a new Ork themed and a painting tip video from you
Thanks Matt! I appreciate it as always.
Woohoo! Another video! I absolutely love your style!!
Yay! Thanks MPP!
Very creative way to use the liquid frost (the video on that stuff was how I found your channel)! It is a bit on the expensive side for chipping medium, but than again it has other uses. I which there was a way to strengthen the crystals, without damaging them also. I would love to use that stuff on my gaming models. I think it is strong enough in small layers, but not in crystal form.
Thanks W! You could try an easy brushing thin superglue over them, it works... sort of. But maybe still not table top durability. What we need is self growing metallic crystals. Now that would be terminator kind of future.
Great trick! Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure P! Thank you.
My liquid frost just "melted" on its own after a few weeks of sitting on some of my frost-army-minis, which i had to clean of very carefully.. since then I never used it again but now, I can recycle it. Thank you!
Did you varnish it? That stuff does not like varnish... anyway, sorry to hear it. Maybe it doesn’t like moisture? Hope the chipping works out better :)
@@52Miniatures I varnished the minis month's before applying the liquid frost. Since I already painted them way ahead of the release of this product. I store my minis in a dark, dry and well ventilated area. So no extreme tempratures or extremely dry or moist conditions. I asked GreenStuff for help, but unfortunately the answer was something like: "something like this can happen." - I'll try the chipping-technique soon. Thanks for that!
@@PyroDraco91 A bit of not very helpful customer support... anyway.. hope the chipping works out!
Amazing paint schemes ,that liquid frost provides awesome results ,good job
Thanks Jack, much appreciated.
On the subject of varnish and oils, I've found it is necessary to varnish *after* applying oil-based paints if you want to add any more acrylic layers on top. Otherwise, the residual oil tends to repel the water-based paints. Maybe not an issue if you let the oils fully cure, but like you, I get impatient sometimes waiting to move on to the next step. 😃
My varnish is getting relepped from the mini even after curing completely and I'm a little bit confused as to what to do :_) I admit it was a pretty heavy coat of oil paint for wetblendig but is has been sitting there for almost a month
@@miguelgilcasas3560 I usually spray on my varnish, and I use artist gloss varnish (like Liquitex) for intermediate layers. I think varnish from the art store is formulated to go over oils, maybe more than hobby varnishes.
The other thing you could try is putting the mini under a heat lamp (carefully if it's plastic!), that's supposed to help cure oil paints.
Good luck!
Thanks for the tip S! I believe you are right. I always leave the oils as a last step, so I’ve never tried myself.
By all the dark gods that's fine work! Stunning!
Thank you very much Sean!
Oh, well done. Brilliant idea for that liquid frost.
Thanks Jason, it was lying around, so all good fun to get some more use out of it.
Wow, that's really cool and creative! Nicely done.
Thanks C!
Paint that turns into crystals! That's rad
It is pretty rad yes!
very ingenious technique!
Thank you Dee :)
Don't believe I'll use that particular trick, but the valuable lesson about remembering to also use stuff outside of it's intended use, will come in handy.
(American Gods is a blast to read so far. Almost finished it. Thanks for the recommendation!)
Lovely to hear about American Gods :) And thanks, I hope the main thing to take away from my videos is just inspiration.
Loving your journey friend 👍👏
As always, thank you Mark.
Amazing video, as always. Seeing that beautiful red wooden house along a gravel road makes me want to go back on holiday to beautiful Sweden. Perhaps next summer (I chicken out on going to your beautiful country in winter). Keep up the good work and all the best from the (also beautiful, but very crowded) Netherlands.
Not coming to Sweden in winter is not being chicken, it’s just common sense. Thanks G!
Squidmar will love your video, damn theses orks are so cool
Thanks Diégo! I appreciate it :)
I'm def in the no airbrush camp (I just can't in my current living situation), but this was still very fascinating!
Glad to hear it. I’m no airbrush expert either, but I’m trying to learn :)
Cybork, marvellous work 💪
Cyborc!
Very interesting. Great work.
Thanks R!
amazing video as always!
Thanks GreenD!
I will admit to not reading through the entirety of the comments, however, I did catch your reference to Archimedes. Perhaps you have discovered that an amount of paint can be displaced by an equal amount of medium? Thank you for your videos.
Hah! Eureka! :) I must confess, the only facts I remember is the bath thing... Thanks E!
Great video as always, drone footage is always awesome. In terms of constructive criticism, I feel like rule "less is more" should be almost always applied when one is chipping. Details can be lost and overall composition can be overwhelmed by chipping effect. I'm not saying I don't like how your orks turned out, but I would use this effect less.
Thanks M! I definitely see your point. But still love my cyborcs :)
@@52Miniatures I love your cyborcs too! I appreciate that even though we use mostly the same colors and the same models, everyone has different style.
This was awesome! Bravo.
Thanks Jack!
a year later and its my go to video to introduce people to this channel
Great to hear, thank you.
Awesome stuff as always mate, I guess your crystal style is similar to the salt crystal approach people use?
I tend to use chipping medium, or a sponge with silver paint if I’m being exceptionally lazy or painting large quantities
They came out brilliantly kudos
It’s very similar to salt Tom, only this grows on its own and salt doesn’t. Salt on the other hand is cheap... almost for free if one considers the kitchen factor. Liquid Frost is not in the super cheap range :)
Nice idea and another cool video. If you are looking for a simple materials and application technique for chippin go for the Salt-Technique. It pretty simple and everyone can do it.
Cheers, keep up the good work.
Thanks L! Yeah salt. Kind of cheaper than self growing crystals :)
oh yeah let me show you how a cool chipping trick - *proceeds to make a video that looks better than the new lotr trailer*
Hah! Thanks! And... there is a new lotr trailer?
Although I would swear your rythm of talking would appeal to me, it somehow does. Your pronunciation along with the torrent of details somehow calm me down ( lol ) and I manage to actually watch all the video. Amazing job!
Hah, thanks! I do sometimes have difficulty sticking to the point of things...
Interesting idea, actually, I don't see this kind of stuff coming around in general among the classic channels about painting ministures and adding various effects.
By the way, it looks like you take more and more time (and probably pleasure) to add something to the videos, like ths stroll
My content does tend to be a bit random, as I want to share whatever it is that I’m doing. I’m not really much into figuring out what viewers might want to see... I kind of do the reverse. Thanks K!
@@52Miniatures Oh, that's actually one of the reason your channel is often very surprising and interesting. As you don't follow a clear plan or guideline, you bring sometimes amazing tips or sources of inspiration. Please keep going that way! ^^
I am waiting for your videos like for a netflix premere
Thank you very much W! I appreciate it greatly.
Ok, I'm in just for the parrot part ;)
If you ever want to go over the top display quality and there's a parrot in the composition I'd say to add some kind of scars and or birb poo.
The arm where pirate's parrots live always look 10 times older than the regular arm, like just that one went to war and the other half ork was at the sofa the whole time ;D
Now you mention (luck vs orks) fluff wise, I don't know now (GW) but earlier orks were super-sticious, to the point one clan sported blue warpaint (snakebites) and all orks knew red made vehicles 'go fasta' xD
This video got my brain juices going TBH. Quimically speaking I bet you are using the premium equivalent of the salt & hairspray method but all in 1 convenient application. Nice finding Alex!
I'd say yes. Even if you apply a transparent glaze of fluorescent color, not noticeable to the naked eye, you are effectively changing how light bounces into the object.
Try that: take non flue colors like green stuff world washes and inks and look at the under black lights. You'll find there are non fluorescent colors that use fluorescent pigments on its formulation so they have enough punch.
As a closing though I'd say it's not matter of finding randomness but working it out: even using sponge techniques what makes masterpieces is control over the final product so in the end it's all about of getting a mean to start randomness patterns to get refined later by brush so you reinforce the random looking.
If you don't mind the extra work (that comes right after) a wash mattie up results before tidying and weathering.
Loving the star grave content so far. May you end having enough variety of minis to play indies like reality's Edge, rogue stars, etc. Indie warpaint books are so full of great ideas...
Cheers pal!
Aye, but that is just fact right? Red goes faster! That’s why Ferrari’s are red and all the other cars are like grey, white and black? Although... once upon a time Marlboro was faster... anyway. So glad I saved that bird. I think it’s from a tombstone from a Nighthaunt mini. I am coming closer to accepting the fact that all the various bits acquired is my greatest treasure... I think it was probably you who gave me the flou tip to start with. And it really does work. Especially in “daylight” those highlights just shout. And with the chipping, It can be done even better. A gloss varnish to help the crystals spread, and not so many layers of too diluted paint.. paint that in sense melted the finest crystals. Also on something larger, letting the crystals grow larger. I think it could be a thing. Thanks J!
You had me at Cybork!
Cybork is the new black 🖤
Ice chips! Great idea and it works really well. Also, join the Patreon!!
Thanks Micheal! And yeah, I agree ☝️Join the Patreon :)
One of us, one of us, one of us
How you liking stargrave?
So far I’ve not gotten a game in :) Still working on the minis, and I’m in no rush. But very much looking forward to it.
@@52Miniatures Hope you have a great time when you do!
I wonder how grimdark can get the new Stormcast after tricks like this one. Hello from Spain by the way, thanks as usual for your content :)
Thank you Jose! Yeah, I’m still thinking about how to do the new Stormcast, because they will get paint on for sure.
Ah yes, keep the oil content coming! Join the linseed family!
Slowly but surely S!
CybOrk. I agree with this statement. Continue.
Check!
A regular chip of the old block!
Hah. Thanks J!!
How's the "Infinity" going?
The infinity minis are trying to shoot their way out of a small cardboard box. Not to far in the future, they will find their grenades and blast their way on to my table and become my Stargrave crew :)
@@52Miniatures no, sorry, I meant the airbrush from Harder & Steinbeck.
@@ODonnchadhaBrian Ah! I mean... it's lovely. I still haven't got into detail work but just the feel of the trigger is way different from.. the other one.. neo? I forget. All of a sudden it feels like I'm dealing with a persision instrument.
@@52Miniatures good to know, thank you.
Why is he wandering round a farm? Ohh rusty old tractors!
I couldn’t fit one into the apartment. Shame that...
out of interest have you tried salt chipping? lovey and random, with the bouns of being free
It is lovely. I was just stoked over the “self growing effect”. But as you say, a lot more expensive “self growth” compared to salt.
Great video, correct response below.
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hah, thanks Tom!
Cyborcs.... made me giggle
Proud battlescars and scars from drunkenly falling out of a hammock - check!
(Now I'll look at heavily scarred orcs in a new light - is he a beserk battle hammer of a warrior? Or has he heaped broken glass under his hammock to fool us all!
Great cyberhook, but did he lose that hand in battle? Or does he pitch his hammock over a crocodile pit just for effect???)
The Order of the Bloody Nightshirt is now a thing, and soon to be a banner. And yes, orcs do wear blue and white striped nightshirts and a crash helmet when sleeping in a hammock.
Love a vid about chipping being introduced over a beautiful piece of inspirational hardware, with really varied rust patterns on different component parts. That's a gorgeous vehicle btw
I now have a more generally applicable use for my liquid frost too
Rusting and chipping for me is all in the tiny contrasting touches that make a line look like a deep scratch, or pick up the edges where the crust meets paint. Little dots and lines along one side or another to make the transition look 3d
Great vid as always both in content and in production values, more Stargrave haul models!!! ;0)
Thank you A! One of the reasons I love these different orc faces, they bring another character level that’s so fun to build on. Not just the Whhaag head bashing, but also the hammock and the striped nightshirt. I’m a bit sad about having finished all the Stargrave orcs now, but also stoked for the next batch of “ruffians” (non orc). Perhaps not as charming but pretty rough :) The chipping was fun, and as you said, another use for a fun product that does tend to be slightly unused. I’m looking forward to trying it on larger surfaces. Stay well!!
@@52Miniatures You need to bite the bullet and shape an orc army, not just the figures but the vehicles, bases, buildings, terrain and the story, so much kitbashing and that love of painting stories to be had! Go on! you know you love them!
@@philgee486 Well... there will be fantasy swamp orcs to come :)
@@52Miniatures Fantasy swamp orcs definitely sleep in hammocks! They don't even need to pile broken glass underneath, there's a black, barbed, swamp bamboo that can grow up overnight in any patch of recent moon-shadow. Any say that's obscured by a bedroll or especially a newly pitched hammock. It's known as the Moonshy Bloodrose, because if something does bleed on it, the plant absorbs and uses the nutrient to flower in small tight blossom sprays that can (by those that know their swamp lore) then be dried and powdered to mix with certain swamp slimes and animal fat to make a nasty blade venom that doesn't keep long but guarantees wounds will be gangrenous and fester horribly. It's not widely known in the North, but in the deep southern reaches, they speak of the orcish swamp hag known as Black Rosie, she was famous for her summonings and sendings of moonshy blood bats who's claws dripped the stuff and from whom even a scratch would mortify if the limb wasn't promptly cut away and cauterized under a bright enough moon.The same legends speak of her "sons", the rose wreathed zombies she could supposedly use her cauldron to raise from any festering corpse that died of these black wounds. They again were susceptible to the light of the moon but stories say she'd have them burrow into the swampmud till the bright moon passed and the waning allowed her children to rise and slake their relentless blood thirst. Hushed stories speak of the sound of their coming, footfalls hissing with the sound of the tearing away of tiny roots and barbs, the horror of trying to break out from a night encircled camp, or one of those many once night besieged outlying farmsteads that you can see abandoned and rotting bordering the Blackmire, good land gone fallow and treacherous
@@philgee486 Alright! I've just print screened all this for future reference :) My humble thanks Allwyn
Are we allowed to call the Orc hierarchy the hierorchy?
It depends on how wild you feel about the pun-police :D I've heard someone called already...
Anything orcy passes my radar
We’ve got the chips; Now for the fish.
Hah, thanks Joshua!!
using stuff for other things than it used to be is the orkish lifestyle.
Very true R!
Pretty interesting and I could see some uses but I'll stick to salt chipping :D
Yeah :) not as pricey that salt!
They look like Pascal Blanché made some orks!
Thanks Alex! One of my Patrons said just the same thing. And then I had to google
I still think you can get better results painting chips by hand, but that is a very slow and tedious process. 👍
Thanks N!
So… “Cyborcs”?
Thank you! I’ll be her all weeks…
Cyborcs. The new black.
This looks trashy in all the right ways, almost as if the damage and exposed metal builds up to a chaotic uniform. I might need to up my metallic game with this on my KO models; perhaps to a less extreme extent as they are Dwaves whom I imagine are very well regimented, but it would be fun to experiment with chipping on otherwise precise armour.
Thank you Philip! I appreciate it. And, yeah! Please do, sounds wonderful.
i think you need a channel name change, 52 miniatures doesnt capture the uniqueness and artistic talent of your videos, both in the content and how you make the video itself.
Well thank you Arch, you comment made my day.
Well, it captures how it all started indeed. I feel it's been a journey for Alex from getting the AOS box and getting back to his childhood hobby to this point where he looks like going his own path. In-between there were lots of 1st tries and ramblings which are still part of the journey and IMHO still have impact to some extent on his newer contents.
@@zamo9660 At least I'm still rambling.. at least internally...
cyborc xD
Oh yeah
not the first comment but close enough
Close enough! 🙌
Less than 2 minutes before the teal/turquoise paint appeared.
I challenge you to do a video without it.
But that would be like painting without paint?! 😂
Phew chipping is a hard topic! Like a science on its own. I do understand where you are coming from, and appreciate your effort to find a third solution next to chipping medium and hand painting chipping. Yet I feel neither of these 3 methods work well individually, or at least have to be applied in a more complex way.
1. Painting chipping by hand lacks randomnes and takes a lot of effort, as you point out. But this can be solved by painting those chips with different brushes and foremost sponges. But sponges are very hard to control.
2. Your method to me feels like lacking the clear cut between the layers, its not as flaky or 3D. The borders of the chips created by your method look more smooth and less abrupt. Also due to its growing nature it seems to be hard to create very tiny chips. Maybe the brush-against-toothpick method could achieve that.
3. The success of chipping medium largely depends on the tools used to scrape off the top layer. If you vary that between soft and hard brushes or the hobby knife, you can make it look really random.
As with all things I believe its a matter of combining and varying methods if you really want to push it. This can go as far as multi-layering chipping medium or hand-edgehighlighting chipping to create a 3D effekt. Also both using a knife on chipping medium as well as handpainting chippings allow you to create scratches and a bit more dynamic chipping, something your method cannot achieve.
The best effort-to-result ratio I have found myself, is by using a minimally loaded sponge and darker-than-basecoat paint first, and then coming in and selectively underhighlighting some of the "chips" with a brighter-than-basecoat paint.
Thanks Volker! Yeah, you’ve pretty much summarized what was going on in my head. The cool thing with the liquid frost is that it actually does web out in very thin “scratches”... but only here and there, and in the end I manage to highlight over a lot of the fine detail. I think a layer of gloss varnish, to help the liquid spread, and more patients to let it grow would be a good thing. Also figuring out what goes on top. My several layers of “zenithal” kind of drenched the crystals in places. Making me think the one covering layer of pretty thick consistency paint would be optimal. I’m hoping a revisit, on maybe a slightly larger surface. To see how that works out. But I definitely agree with you, a combination of techniques is not to be shunned.
I am honest to god trying to follow your voice, but I get lost in your photography...
Hah, well I guess thanks C :)