Putin Sacks Shoigu: What Now?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
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In today’s episode, we run through why President Putin replaced Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu. Also, we discuss the legal threat looming for the EU Commission; AfD’s potential extremist ruling; and results from Catalonia's regional elections.
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Further reading:
✍️ Sergei Shoigu Replaced
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...
www.ft.com/content/641cf6f1-6...
✍️ EU Commission Legal Threat
www.politico.eu/article/eppo-...
✍️ AfD Extremist Ruling
www.ft.com/content/25ea42bb-f...
www.theguardian.com/world/art...
✍️ Catalonia Regional Elections
www.euractiv.com/section/poli...
www.reuters.com/world/europe/...
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...
✍️ TLDR Fun News
apnews.com/article/germany-ba...
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00:00 Intro
00:18 Sergei Shoigu Replaced
02:30 EU Commission Legal Threat
03:58 AfD Extremist Ruling
05:10 Catalonia Regional Elections
06:38 TLDR Fun News
07:14 Sponsor
"i want you to know i would never kill a defense minister. oh..by the way... you're fired"
Ah yes, pulling a robocop...
he was made a member of the Security Council, so I think it's less "fired" and more "promoted."
I found out from RT first. I love that network
@@adamo1242😂😂😂😂😂
Just sit next to that open window. 😂😂😂
Shoigu better make sure all his windows are closed
I don't think he has much to worry about. He isn't a threat to Putin so there's little reason to remove him. Being incompetent can actually make you safer.
hes not a political enemy like prigozhin tho hes just incompetent, big difference one gets u mysteriously falling out of a window the other just fired
Russian politics is like the Death of Stalin movie in real life
no wander Russians banned that movie in their theatres.
@@madkoala2130no it wasn't banned. I saw it in Moscow. Why lie?
@@francisu4180 then why was announced restriction on Russia Today?
@@francisu4180Moscow lmfao. Moscow doesn't represent the rest of Russia.
@@francisu4180It was banned but never truly enforced, so a number of theaters ran it regardless of the ban.
That pronunciation of Evgeniy Prigozhin was spot on!!! You've come a long way
Mr worldwide
Now on to Belousov!
@@olegshevchenko5869Let’s hope they figure out it’s bela-ooh-sov soon
There are so many Russian news that he got to somewhat try not to mispronounce Russian before Spanish or French lol
Revenge of the Wagner
Ghost of prigozhins revenge from the grave
SHOIGUUUUUUUUUUUU
@@davidty2006PRIGOZHIN!!!! FACE ME COWARD!!!!
Prigozhin is dying in his grave hearing this
First 'Gerasimov!' disappears, now 'Shoigu!' fired?
...why does this sound familiar...
“Ultimately, underpinning this topic (German finger wrestling) is a lot of data” great ad transition lol
Replacing your defense minister with a civilian who basically has no prior military experience, right after opening a new front in Kharkiv?
Why there’s simply no way this could massively backfire!
To be fair, I don't think even a civilian can do worse than Shoigu.
1. They are both civilians. This position needs much more economic handling and less military experience that is handled by his advisors. Russia clearly sees it as a long term conflict.
2. This is the best possible moment to sort the personnel. They waited for a new election period + full initiative of the military. You never want to change such when your moral is low - like Ukraine did.
Shoigu never had any either..... which was quite evident.
The Defense ministry is mostly a civilian position.(Shoigu was also a civilian)
Chief of Staff Gerasimov remained in his position.
What's supposed to backfire? You think the defense minister draws up the plans himself?
The role of Defense Minister of Russia is more of a Logistics manager role than anything else, Shoigu spent the past 2+ years visiting arms factories and rarely if ever visited the front, so it makes sense to replace him with someone with a massive economic background if you want your country to enter into a war economy phase.
Yeah, but shouldn't the defense minister's focus be on, I don't know, winning the war instead of worrying about the financial bottom line?
@@catdogmousecheese Pretty hard to win a war with mismanaged finances.
@@manana1444 This.
@@catdogmousecheese It's good for someone in such a position to have enough economic awareness to not bankrupt the nation by a series of wrong decisions. It has become kind of a meme at this point to see Shoigu only visiting arms factories throughout Russia rather than seeing him on the front and this is because his tenure has prioritized an increase in production of upgrades for tanks such as T-72s and T-90s while also prioritizing production on more experimental but now proven platforms such as the Lancet and Geran-2 which has helped Russia put down many Leopard 2's and recently Abrams. When you compare the cost of a Lancet drone to a tank like the M1A1 Abrams, it is a no-brainer to see who is winning thus far in the war of attrition.
@@DrGrove At the same time though, a person with no military experience will apply the right mindset to the wrong lessons. Upgrading tanks is all well and good, but tanks don't win wars. Air power wins wars, and judging by the recent "modifications" Russia has been making to their tanks, I'd say they're in dire need of a defense minister that understands the critical need for air supremacy on a modern battlefield.
Also a war of attrition is the last thing Russia needs right now given its population demographic crisis.
It’s what Prego would have wanted
People in the comments have no idea what a defense minister is huh? Defense ministers are in charge of logistics, they have nothing to do with battle plans or leading the troops. In most countries the defense ministers are civilians, it's only a tradition to have military officers be the defense minister in the US and UK for some reason.
Having said that, Shoigu was incompetent either way even if he didn't actually need a military background. That's exactly why this is scary for Ukraine, it's hard to see how someone else could do worse than he did.
Then why call it "defense" when it's not about managing such tactics directly??
@@NatureXwars Logistics and research *are* vital components of the defense of any country. But they're just not something that requires a military background. I don't get why this is so confusing for you.
Why would you say Shoigu was incompetent, Russian military industry is obviously outproducing everyone and they dont have any major logistic issues, I would say he did fine
I think the confusion comes when the ”civilian defence minister” actually wear military clothe like he is some kind of general.
@@user-qd6hv6et4m Well yeah that's just Shoigu. The guy has a really high opinion of himself.
I don’t think it was done to get rid of Shoigu, but rather so someone can more effectively run the Russian military industrial complex
1:54 Correction, he said the share of spending on security was 7.4%, otherwise the phrase doesn’t even make sense
Yea I was confused how low it was
This is actually quite a significant event, as Shoigu was one of Putin’s closest allies and confidantes for many years.
Then again, being head of the Russian Federation Security Council still sounds like an incredibly powerful position for him to occupy…
Not really, the previous head didn't ever do anything and being stripped from the army's budget is like stripping him from his yachts
its fine tuning not any major shake up... shoigu was probably begging to be taken out of that shitty position any way... and patrushevs son has been promoted so no retribution on that side either
Its a promotion,these ppl are dumb😂
I can only imagine how much the economist is going to cry when they see the supply situation. Thanks for the video.
If Prigoshin was still around to see this...
At this rate I expect Putin to eventually take direct command, just like the last Czar in WWI
All we need is a homeless wizard and a Jew in Switzerland
SHOIGU!
HIROSHIMA!
WHERE TF IS THE AMMUNITION??????
Gerasimov! Not Hiroshima.
Nagasaki*
I did not expect "incurring dislocated fingers" being said with such a happy smile.
Not the federal constitutional court ( Oberverwaltungsgericht Münster is a high administrative court), and they are already under surveillance, but the lowest tier of surveillance, as the Vefassungsschutz had already classified them as a "extremistischer Verdachtsfall (a case of extremist suspicion) previously
Yep Germany has proven to be undemocratic again
Dont worry, Shoigu. Many doors will open for you...or a window on the 20th floor.
Guess Pregozhin got his Revenge after all
*Putin replaces Shoigu.*
Me: Not good for Ukraine. He could put in someone with actual competence and expertise.
*Putin puts in Andrey Belousov, "a civilian economic with very little military experience"*
Me: *feels relief*
You could replace Shoigu with a lettuce and it'd still be a step up in competence.
His main responsibility will apparently be to manage Russia's military budget. It probably would have been better to get someone who had experience with military procurement, but hiring an economist makes much more sense than you're probably thinking.
@@Talisguy But it’s also a bad sign for Russia, if they’re worried about managing resources to that extent.
Putin: "Shoigu go squeesh now!" (Shoigu disappears).
say what now??? Finger wrestling?!?!?! 🤣🤣 that's new
*Prigozhin's ghost laughing*
What is interesting is that no one ever had military experience on that position.
I think Putin slightly fears his army and wants to prevent anything even remotely similar to Prigozhin's Mutiny
Taking Patrushev's seat is as big if not bigger news. He was often considered Putin's successor should anything happen.
so Secretary of Defense got fired because he's bad at Offense?
Shoigu should be careful when going down the stairs.
Shoigu could die falling out of a window on the ground floor...
Good job
this video made me feel a little bit better this morning.
Ben barely holding it together over the finger wrestling bit 😂 so cute
Ursula was Juncker's successor so YES xD
Just look towards dealings with the UK
Are you going to make a video about the UN cutting Gaza Death tolls by 50% for women and children?
I wonder who lives more safely right now...Boeing whistle blowers or Shoigu.
Tldr like: Yes underpinning the finger wrestling is a *lot* of data. Hey- no- we're serious guys! So much data! Can you even believe how many *hours* of finger wrestling we just *had to watch* to do this story justice?!
Hopefully, this new defense minister will be especially incompetent.
Ghost of Prighozin: Giggling like a school girl
Intresting
You guys did a great job staying neutral on the AfD story. That was something that was very easy to inject personal opinion into or to sensationalize, and you guys did a great job of not doing that. This is why I watch TLDR every day and is also why I am a member, despite most likely having different views than you guys behind the scenes.
Interesting choices and stated reasoning
Prighozin finally got what he wanted I guess
Let's just hope the German government doesn't send in a fail artist as their spy. 😂😂😂
A German guy challenged me to a match of finger wrestling once. I had never heard of it. I'm strong as shit and he fucked me up
Oh no, not you too. He got promoted to head of security council. Sounds like a promotion.
Putin sounding like Shaggy nowadays, it wasnt me......
Prighozhin punching air in hell rn
Don't go near any high windows, Sergei. 🤣🤣
Ursula must go!
Ha. About time
he'll be taking flying lessons soon...ukhukhu...🤭
How about how the un revised the gaza death toll reducing the amount of claimed dead children and women by half and use it to explain on how death counts are made during wars
What are we betting lads? How long until he ends up falling out of a window?
The finger wrestling one sounds both funny and horrifying.
You cannot imagine the pain😂
Window is coming for Shoigu…
Is there really that much data underpinning German thumb wrestling?
Putting an economist in charge of the Russian military sounds like great news for Ukraine.
It's not. The defense minister isn't going to decide on maneuvers or the like. An economist might actually improve things like procurement. Also, even if he were to meddle into military tactics or similar things outside his area of expertise, Shoigu probably wasn't better in this regard.
I wonder if this has anything to do with Shoigu stand on nukes
Me, as Ukrainian, fear if putin replaced Shoigu with more competent authority.
Cuz Shoigu proved he's incompetent. Military in general don't respect him.
putin isnt stupid like we want him to be, he can do things for the better. Ukraine is fucked pretty much already, and if this economist or financist or whatever he is who is in charge of ruzzian MoD is competent, ruzzian army can achieve new highs.
You as ukrainan should just fear unconditionally.
There's still hope that he ends up like Serdyukov.
@@kindlingking come here and make me fear, keyboard conqueror
@@demivik5812 nah, whatever I can do pales in comparison to a couple of FABs. Just be sure to remember Volga when that happens.
@@kindlingking you are just a coward
Where do all these important Russian figures look like villains oh wait they are actual villains.
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Underpinning the finger pulling is a lot of data, huh?
No wayyyy, my man shoogu got sacked…
Oh crap, they finally realized he was incompetent?!
so sad to hear shoigu committed suicide after a rocket was thrown at his plane while jumping off a window after drinking nut-flavored tea 😔
Since the Russian offensive is going well, it's likely just a normal shuffle, something common with a new government.
He wasn't sacked but promoted. Get your facts checked
Poor Shoigu :(
More importantly he puts Shoigu in Patrushev's position and sacks Patrushev, with the Kremlin saying they'll give him "another position." But the Secretary of the Security Council is just about the top position in Russia after Putin, so Patrushev has nowhere to go but down. He was the second most powerful after Putin, and now the paranoid baby man in charge is getting rid of even his close allies. Hope the others see what's happening and realize that he'll come for them sooner or later...
Well Patrushev's son got promoted so it evens it out. Patrushev is older than Putin so it makes sense. Doesn't mean he won't benefit from it as his son clearly did.
HAHA surghouuu
That's strange. Russia seems to be doing well in ukraine militarily
shoi-GU!!!!!!
"SHOIGU! GERASIMOV! WHERE IS THE AMMUNITION?!"
Czar Nicholas II takes control of the Army personally?
"We can't afford to stop corruption emptying our treasury"
Europeans are just like us!
Wasnt he sick? I dont think this is so shocking if you take that in consideration
Glory to Ukraine and free PaIestine 🇺🇦🇵🇸❤
I wish there was an your long cut off TLDR news❤
SHOIGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!
sssshhhhoooiiiiiggggguuuuuu!!!!!!
Here's hoping that an economist will finally tell Putin that wars are bad for business and that this one in particular is unsustainable and pointless. Won't hold my breath though.
Lol, you say that when US is literally right here and is making a big buck from current conflicts. Does America have no economists?
@@kindlingking Somehow being in a position of a arms dealer is a lot more profitable than waging war yourself. Weird, right?
@@manana1444 my point still stands. Wars are profitable. And if you manage to minimise or completely avoid collateral damage, they're just the best for economic growth. After all USA managed to greatly benefit from both WW1 and WW2.
@@kindlingking Again, wars are only profitable when you are the one supplying the warring states and at most fighting in a limited manner yourself. Britain and France went almost bankrupt after the two world wars which sped up their empires being dismantled. Russia might not be in that bad of a situation as Ukraine, but there are still Russian citizens being killed and industry bombed. This really just points to how lucky the US is with their geography.
@@manana1444 exactly - when you can minimise the damage and maximise the benefit. But you don't have to be a bystander for that. All russian losses and economic damage from ukrainian attacks are rather negligent, especially in comparison to all the benefits fully running MIC can provide. From factories, to new job vacancies, to rejuvenated money flow in key economic sectors - there's a reason why US is so fond of it.
Either way we're getting pretty far from the original point, which honestly doesn't warrant any serious conversations we're currently giving it.
Shoigu was promoted, not sacked
yea, they are wrong again
Shoigu is a civilian. He just likes to cosplay in uniform.
Poor shoigu not only did he get demoted an economist with no military experience was given his old job lol
what took so long? 🤣
Oh awesome, great day for Managed democracy in Germany!
This will go well!
*Deep inhale*
SHOIGUUUUUU!!!!
promotes
He don't ditch Shoigu. Shoigu himself ask for resignation because he was old. Get your fact right. Stop repeating the same propaganda talking point.
regarding 4:00 it wasn't actually *the* federal consitutional court it was "just" the "Oberwaltungsgericht" (High Administrative Court) of North Rhine-Westphalia. Still an important and right decision in my opinion ^^
Ruzzia is making big strides towards War Economy, this signals a very protruded future war campaign.
As always, Europe is still dreaming with unicorns and fairies, war will not come to them.
At least France seems to be *very* slowly awakening.
Eh not really. Shoigu got moved from MoD to SBRF, which is basically Rosgvardia.
Why are you making propaganda ? He was promoted, not sacked !!! This is a low point for TLDR...
No experience in the military!? Wut?
The defence minister oversees logistics, he isn’t the one doing the battle plans those are the generals.
Shoigu was a fake dress toy solder
I did some research into his background Shoigu was a civilian contractor before entering putins inner circle no prior military experience never did time in the red army no officer training which Gerasimov at least has no of his medals or decorations are from the soviet era they are all contemporary which Putin has lavished in him.
Yet somehow he was placed as minister of defense and made general of the army only one rank way from marshal of the Russian federation is baffling when you still had the last generation of soviet era officers who were trained had combat experience in say Afghanistan or Chechnya who were passed up.
Why it’s simple and complex question Putins Russia is a security state unlike in the USSR the political elite do not stem from the military or the party apparatus but rather in a close cliché of the remaining Oligarchs from the 90s Former KGB officers (like Putin) in charge of the FSB and Putin allies bureaucrats/politicians from St Petersburg he took to Moscow when Putin became president.
The only institution of the state that could pose a challenge was the military since 2000 Putin has been gutting the Russian MOD by putting his political allies as minister of defense where always a civilians instead of a military men. As part of the military “modernization” of the mid 2000s the amount of officer courses were cut down the handling of army logistics was contracted out to a civilian company which resulted in the Modern Russian army that has invaded lacking adequate numbers of trained officers or NcOs resulting in poor leadership or whole battalions just surrendering when their officers get killed cause is no one left to take charge.
All of this was done under Shoigus watch
ADF is not extremist. What the masters don't like is called extremist.
"On the battlefield, he who is more open to innovation wins"
The irony of this coming from the same people who haven't changed since WW2 💀
4:14 they just don't like to make the existing behavior official. in germany, if you have a foreign name, you're already at the risk of being discriminated against, even for the sake of "ahh it's easier to deal with a local, let's choose Gerhard over Joao or Ahmed"
Based Germany