I was baptized by immersion in a non-Trinitarian cult, so now I have to be re-baptized, or actually baptized (by pouring) in the LCC, as soon as I'm catechized, that is. So excited!!!
Wait! You are calling the Non-Trinitarian Doctrine, a 'CULT'? The Trinitarian Doctrine is Heresy, my friend! Let's read Matthew 28:19: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" Jesus commanded baptism IN THE NAME OF. Then, He mentions three TITLES, Father, Son, Holy Ghost! If you are married, you are a husband. If you have children, you are a Father. If you have parents, you are a Son! Those are not your NAMES, but your TITLES! Jesus said to be baptized IN THE NAME OF. Thus, the Father has a name! What is that name? John 5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. Jesus said that He came baring His Father's' NAME'! So what is the name of the Father? It's simple English! The name of the Father is Jesus! Jesus came in His Father's name! What is the name of the Holy Ghost? John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. The comforter, whom the Father has sent, 'IN MY NAME'! The Father sent the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus! Again, Simple English! Thus, the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is JESUS! Simple English! Unless you don't understand plain English! Why must we be submerged under water, like Jesus was submerged under water? Matthew 3:13-17 13) “Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14) But John forbad him, saying, ‘I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?’ 15) And Jesus answering said unto Him, ‘Suffer it to be so now: fo thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness.’ Then he suffered Him.” In verse 16, we clearly see that Jesus came up OUT of the water. He did not have water sprinkled on Him, nor did He have water poured on Him. 16) “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and ighting upon Him:” If you had been baptized by having water sprinkled on you, or having water poured on you, you couldn’t get, OUT OFTHE WATER! wake up, people! The Trinity Doctrine is Heresy! Read Acts 2:38. Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ!
Man... where was this video when I was convinced to be re-baptized by immersion?!?!?! Truly, thank the Lord for His mercy, & the validity of my sprinkled, infant baptism!!!
@@shortrob5762 Where? Where was Jesus 'immersed' (by which, I presume, you mean submerged as per modern baptistic modes)? No one is ever explicitly submerged in Scripture.
Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River ,John Baptized in anon because there was much water there Phillip and the eunuch went down into the water.and he baptized him we must copy what they did in Scriptures
Coming from an independent black baptist church, I have always been taught we have to be immersed into water. When you spoke about the 3000 being baptized with a river or a lake being nearby, made me question all that I have been taught about baptism. Thank you for your teaching on the spirituality and symbolism. It is not the form, but the presence of God being there.
Ok but your independent church is very new. For the last nearly 2000 years there has never been any requirement to be immersed in baptism. Only the very new churches have made this rule. It is a man made doctrine.
also, how did they immerse people during household baptisms? what is hilarious is that the Baptists think baptism does nothing but if you don't do it the way they do, it's not a valid baptism, even though it does nothing
No, no, if thete is no immersion the whole thing loses its meaning look at Romans 6:3,4; and Col 2:10-13. Don't just follow because someone philosophy on a biblical truth! You have to look from all the texts in the Bible.
No, no, if thete is no immersion the whole thing loses its meaning look at Romans 6:3,4; and Col 2:10-13. Don't just follow because someone philosophy on a biblical truth! You have to look from all the texts in the Bible.
Dang Pastor!!!! Every episode blows my mind! I had never thought about the 3,000 baptised at Pentecost....No water except at the temple I guess and I am SURE they wouldn't let Peter and the gang in that joint! As a Catholic I really appreciate your ministry-even and especially when you tear into us Catholics-it gives me a lot to think about, even when I sometimes disagree. God bless!
There's watering pools all over Jerusalem that's not a problem springs too.i like Jesus said to Nicodemus you must be born of water and Spirit John 3 5 Acts 2 38
Great video! Some would accuse Lutherans of “throwing water” on people to save them. I’d love to see a video about this and how the theology of “once saved always saved” complicates the understanding of a biblical baptism and salvation. A wise woman much younger than myself once said, “Jesus died for my sins over 2000 years ago. I know this is true even though I don’t remember it.” It’s the same with my baptism. I don’t remember being adopted. Yet I am! It wasn’t about me. It was about Gods great love for me. Praise God I was then taught to remain in Him. By the power of the Holy Spirit received in my baptism and the nourishment of it, given to me in his Word and his very body and blood, I can do just that. God be praised!!
Once saved always saved is not Biblical. Look to the story of the parable of the wheat. Some of the seed is spread on thin ground. It springs up but then dies. These are the people that accept the Word, but do not stay in the faith. A faith that is not fed by the Word and praise to God can wither away. We all have free will and can choose to not stay faithful.
Thanks for this video. I’ve been a Christian for 4.5 years and have just recently started to believe in infant baptism. Now I’m studying the argument for baptism by pouring and baptism by sprinkling.
So well said and simply put. Towards the end you speak of the very thoughts I have had for years; symbolism or a spiritual dynamic that we can't see or is it both. Great stuff Bryan. Good to know God can work in our hearts inspite of our tendancy to over think at times. I think this is a debate that won't end as church positions seemingly need to be defended; denominational pride lends itself to wanting to be most right.
A sister in the Lord in our congregation is fervently against single serve cups of the fruit of the vine, because she says that as Jesus shared one cup, so should we share one cup. Then again, we are an (Dutch) Evangelical congregation, so of course the form matters to her as it is a symbol in her perception. What's your opinion/insight about the *form* of the Lord's Supper?
I appreciate the sentiment that the symbolism of dying and being reborn via immersion is not what is important- I completely agree with that. But I think it's a bit of a red herring to say that the people who are concerned with the form are only concerned with the symbolism. And that's a dangerous red herring to make. I think what is much more likely true, as this 8s what is true for me, is I'm not much concerned at all with the symbolism of it- but I AM concerned about the mechanics and efficacy of it. The debate is really about whether the form effects the efficacy of the baptism. Of course I would note that most Christians would believe that's God's grace is not bound by form. But for those of us seeking to know and follow truth it ends up mattering. Really- if it it's about being buried and reborn with Christ, then immersion is not symbolic. It is LITERAL. Pouring and sprinkling then are the symbolic forms. Have you ever been to a restaurant that served a "deconstructed" dish ? Such as a "deconstructed Turkey sandwich" ? What that would mean is it has all of the ingredients of a Turkey sandwich but not arranged into a sandwich. Which is surely an interesting experience. But if the Bible calls us to be reborn by making a Turkey sandwich, it may not be good enought to simply have the ingredients on a plate. The proper form would actually matter in reconstructing the, not symbolic but rather literal dish.
Hey Pastor! Great video! Is there a good resource that answers anabaptist objections to the Lutheran understanding of baptism? Maybe a dialogue or debate on the subject?
I would say immersion is much more preferable, both from the text and early church history, pouring being the back up mode when immersion isn't possible. As laid out in the Didache. But concerning baptism, thus shall ye baptize. Having first recited all these things, baptize {in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost} in living water. But if thou hast not living water, then baptize in other water; and if thou art not able in cold, then in warm. But if thou hast neither, then pour water on the head thrice in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let him that baptizeth and him that is baptized fast, and any others also who are able; and thou shalt order him that is baptized to fast a day or two before.
It doesn’t really matter either way. Just like it doesn’t matter if the water is hot or cold. I think if you are worried about that, you don’t really understand baptism. Without the Word, it’s just water.
I recently read in a book on the Sacraments by Johan Gerhard, that another reason John the Baptist was called to baptise in the Jordan was in order to fulfil the typology set through Joshua when Israel crossed the Jordan to finally receive the rest of their promised Land. In a similar way the Baptism of John was the crossing of Israel into the Kingdom of Heaven. So, I was thinking, maybe it wasn't just for immersion.
What kind of baptism is a part of the salvation process? What did Peter say below? Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
@@bigtobacco1098 The answer is found in Acts 15:24 and the Book of Hebrews. Many of the early Christians could not let go of the Old Covenant. Ritual washing was a part of the Old Covenant system. Heb 9:10 only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them . (YLT)
@@bigtobacco1098 The time of the "reformation" in this verse is going from the Old Covenant system given to Moses at Mount Sinai, to the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the new covenant church of Mount Sion and the blood of Jesus in Hebrews 12:22-24.
So I have no problem with Pour verses immerse. To me the central issue is the baptism of "believers." as mentioned in your talk referencing the 3000 baptized; "Those who accepted the message were baptized, ... Acts 2:41. Why do some churches baptize babies?
I know that I was baptized once for the forgiveness of sin. I was immersed at age 12, but I had been begging my parents to let me be baptized earlier than that. I was not re-baptized (appropriately) when I joined the Lutheran Church. However, I think back and realized that my cousins often baptized each other in the swimming pool when we were kids, saying "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit." So I wonder, was I actually baptized earlier than my "official baptism"? This has been bouncing around in my mind of late. Not that it matters, but I'm curious...
You can only have one valid baptism. Even if you came back to the original Church founded by Jesus, the Catholic Church, you would not be baptised. You would receive the Sacrament of Confirmation (which Jesus gave first to the Apostles when he sent them out on mission in pairs) and you would be received into the Church and then you would receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist which would complete your journey to Christian Initiation as it is called. It is possible to receive a valid baptism from your cousins in a swimming pool - but under these circumstances the Catholic church would probably recommend a "conditional" baptism - this is a baptism that is only valid if the previous, dubious one is invalid (but you don't know it if it or not) The different I suppose is that if the conditional baptism is not valid (and you can't possibly know) then although you know you have definitely been baptised....you do not know that all of your sins have been forgiven immediately after a conditional baptism...so you do still have to repent and confess your sins like Jesus taught his disciples after they had been baptised for some time. All this is just out of curiosity you have been baptised now for sure anyway so happy days!
I agree with you but the Bible says Matthew 18:18. Water baptized is required symbolically but only belief and repentance are what saves. If you are baptized wrong (sprinkled or water over head) and your heart is right your faith is great and you love God with all your heart and soul and you love your brother as Jesus commanded...likewise I'd you were Water baptized fully immersed and don't do the other things I'd be worried I was in the 2nd category not the first.
Sometimes I ponder my own baptism, which was in an Assemblies of God church when I was a child. I don’t remember much about what I believed, or how I understood baptism, or if I knew what it meant. It was supposed to be an immersion, but I didn’t go completely under. I wonder about it frequently.
As long as they did it in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit it’s valid regardless of whether you went all the way under or not. The Didache is a 1st Century text that was widely used as the first Christian formation and worship manual before the New Testament had been compiled and declared the canon. It says living (flowing) water by triple immersion is preferable, but if that’s not practical, then the next preference is to triple immerse in still water, if that is not practical, then triple pour or sprinkle in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Simple, direct, and to the point.
question pastor: Can an unbeliever baptise and it be valid? I am a Catholic and I think I have heard that in extreme cases they can but I don't know why and what is your church's position?
At around the end you kind of confused the whole thing as you on one side you say the FORM does not mater; but on the other hand you said "if the form is lost, then there is no symbol." Wouldn't this case, then, nullify the importance and the necessity of baptism?
After living in Florida a while, you learn that besides the Amber alert, there are other alerts, namely the Silver Alert. I think this would be classified as a Silver Alert. Missing elderly Luther. Sometimes grumpy and likes his wife's home brewed beer. Reward offered for any information leading to his safe return. Reward is the Word of God.
It does matter. But not in the way you think. Some churches believe that tradition is more important the the written word of the bible. Other churches believe that the written word of the bible is more important than tradition. Sprinkling falls into the former, while immersion falls into the later. This is an important distinction because it determines who can be a priest or priestess. The former is a separate profession, where the later is anyone who is baptized by immersion. I will be honest, I do not know much about sprinkling. But I know more than most about immersion. I will connect the dots that God showed me in His book. First thing to understand is that the old testament is not separate from the new testament. Jesus is the God of the old testament. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Hebrews makes it clear that Jesus is our high priest. And It is clear in Hebrews that the sanctuary built by the direction of God through Moses and the people is a symbol of Jesus body. Jesus does something peculiar in the last supper. He washes the feet of His disciples. This is important because when the Hebrew priests went into the tent of the sanctuary, a symbol of Jesus body, they had to wash their hands and feet before entry. And when they first became a priest, their entire body was washed. Peter tells Jesus that His hands and head should be washed, and not just his feet. Jesus replied that feet is enough. This is peculiar because by washing someone else's feet, your hands are washed. And if no one washes your feet, Jesus himself will wash your feet. Understanding that service to others washes your hands, will wash your mind/head. Focus on service to others and ignore service to self. The understanding back in the time of Jesus was focused on self and the law. wash my feet and hands before entry into the temple. But Jesus redefines what is known and illuminates the service to others as more important and useful than service to self. By washing the feet of His disciples, Jesus is telling them that they are priests in His temple/body/tent. And to be a priest of God your entire body should be washed. They accomplished this through immersion baptism. But biblically speaking, You don't have to do full immersion. A sponge bath baptism would do just fine as well. The symbol of washing the entire body is important because it connects your knowledge back to the sanctuary. can you be saved if you were only immersion baptized? Of course you can. God "winks" at ignorant sin. He doesn't see it. He judges based on what you know, not on legal technicalities. It is a "sin" because it misses the target. sprinkle baptism does not teach someone to be a priest or priestess of Jesus.
I was baptised as a baby by sprinkling. A time ago I joked about debaptism as going into water for swimming. I rejected Jesus and Christianity until a few Month ago. Do I have to be baptized again?
You did not even talk about Jesus being baptized by John the baptizer, pretty sure that was an important baptism! “Now John wore a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt around his waist, and his food was locusts and wild honey. Then Jerusalem and all Judea and all the region about the Jordan were going out to him, and they were baptized by him IN the river Jordan, confessing their sins. . . “And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went UP from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him..”
It was an important baptism, but Jesus was not the recipient of Christian Baptism (which He hadn't even instituted yet) - he was the recipient of the Baptism of John. Could you identify where in this text, or any other text of the Bible, immersion (and by this, my baptist friends almost always actually mean 'SUBmersion') is the explicitly defined mode of 'baptizo'. I'd be happy, in exchange, to share the instances where it's communicated through pouring.
Scripture will define words by example. Do you ever find someone baptized in Scripture in any other way than immersion? I love my Lutheran friends but this is just complicating the issue.
Baptism will take take you to Heaven. That being said. Baptism is immersion. People try to justify what they do but the word is very clear. People went into wildness to be baptized by John the baptist.
Thank you for a very articulate and thoughtful presentation... as always.😊. Sometime might you be brave enough to address wether or not we are born with immortal souls. I think you know where I’m going with this. Thanks and God Bless.
Yes...and Amen. Luther said "Even if satan himself immersed you in the name of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...God's promises would prevail per scripture...my paraphrase of Luther
Sorry,but I think the practice of to pouring or sprinkling water, especially over babies, and before they are at the age of reason and choosing to repent of their sins & to follow Jesus, is unscriptural & "adding to" the scriptures. While my parents had me "christened" as a baby in the Lutheran Church, when I began reading the scripture for myself & understood what Jesus was explaining what we must do to be saved, I chose to be immersed, but in a different denomination, to follow scripture & his command.
We have to copy Jesus baptism that's why he got baptized in the River Jordan it's deep you can get baptized in a swimming pool or ocean lake bathtub Phillip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch in a desert Oasis pond he got baptized in Jesus name in the Bible all baptized in the book of Acts that the original baptism Peter said unto them repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the holy ghost
Believe and get baptised..the main issue in sprinkling is it was done without any faith.. without faith there is no Salvation . Why would I have to get baptised with out faith..what if I start to sprinkle water on people on the roads ..are they saved . The devil is a deceiver ...
I heard that people started been baptized by sprinkling of water when Christian were prosecuted and were hiding in caves where there were no much water aound them. That is what we were told.
I am still struggling a lot still wanting a full immersion,and to confess my faith in Jesus.....had an infant baptism with sprinkling water but no confirmation later on was an "ateist" when I was younger not sure about what I believed I still belong to the Danish Lutheran- Evangelic state church they state they dont accept re-baptism graven images is accepted in a lot of this churches,gay marriages,and I find the ritual about the confirmation strange,and unbiblical..found other believers outside the church they offer free baptism with full immersion outside the church still I need to learn more about why the church I am born in are seeing re-baptism as heracy?will little children,or others who are not able to willfully sin,or to grasp the nature of sin not belong to Jesus automatically?if not baptized I like to believe they do..
The Didache mentions that various modes are acceptable, but it gives an order of preference. I think we ought to go with what Luther practiced and all the Orthodox churches, which have never changed the form since the beginning. I mean, why change the form from what your predecessor used? What’s the motive? Even in places where water is precious and rare, people take baths. AND, for the sake of unity, and if it doesn’t really matter, then why not immerse? Is it out of stubbornness?
The word baptism means to immerse fully, used of dying a cloth. All instances of baptism in the NT were full immersion. It represents not only the washing and transforming work of the Blood of the Lamb (as in a piece of material that is fully immersed and completely changed) but also symbolises dying, being buried and being born again. There is no other Biblically accurate way of Baptising, and whilst not being baptised by full immersion or any means does not mean you're not saved (baptism is not salvific) it does mean that you are not obeying God's Word but rather following the traditions of man. Infant baptism is meaningless and means nothing. You must 'believe (first) and be baptised".
Believe and faith is also important. We must put complete trust and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and then at baptism determine to never sin. The Lord and His apostles never sinned, if they sinned, they repented like Peter who repented immediately Alleilua
I was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ in a UPCI church in south Korea in 1971 I was. 21. Years old your either have done it by tradition or the bible way the Apostles baptized all in Jesus name that should end the debate old testament no baptism needed only in new testament Salvation is required sprinkling and pouring is wrong
If God condemned trillions of people over thousands of years to burn in unconscionable agony for infinity because they screwed up the symbolism of the baptismal ceremony, would that be a good, loving, merciful, just, forgiving god or would that be a horrible, evil, merciless, tyrant god?
Just one thing.........God is our true judge,and I believe whats innocent belongs to God,and he is righteous.....I also acknowledge my re-baptized brothers,and sisters in christ...
I am of the baptist faith and I have always been taught that baptism is an outward expression of what has happened to you on the inside (salvation). So with that being said you can not be adopted in this way as a baby bc you have no idea about Jesus and what he did for you on the cross. Love your videos btw just looking for thoughts on this matter
You must turn Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus. Submerged and backwards. Afterward you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit that God's gift and seal on you. I'm a Reformed Baptist of America.
I'm not trying to start an argument here, just an observation. I'd like to know your opinion on something that Martin Luther said. I read this excerpt from one of his sermons years ago and I wrote it down. I don't remember the title of the sermon, but part of what he said was this; " There is not sufficient evidence from Scripture that one might justify the introduction of infant baptism at the time of the early Christians after the apostolic period." What do you think? I have great respect for Martin Luther.
My apologies for not having it memorized or looking it up, but in the Holy Scriptures, it is written that whole families and households were baptized. Were all of those families and households without children? May not be a guarantee, but reasonable to say there would have been at least one baby.
Immersion is symbolic of dying a watery death from sin and being reborn in Jesus Christ. Just because you say there was no body of water in Jerusalem doesn’t mean the people weren’t getting immersed. I believe in the adult immersion in water. The symbol does matter.
I have one question... The Apostle Paul was the Apostle for the Gentiles, correct? Why did he never tell us, the Gentiles, to be baptised? I believe baptizing was for the Jews only. It was for the Priests and the Jews were all going to be Priests even Jesus. I hope you read this... God Bless you and all your audience.
See 1 Cor12:13: “For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and all were made to drink of one Spirit.” Also Gal 3:27. There are also other verses indicating baptism of Gentiles.
@@stevekukuk9253 the word "in" is also translated "by" or "with." I think of great importance is the verse that tells us that "no one can say Jesus is Lord" but by the Holy Spirit.
When my daughter was baptised in a Lutheran church as a teenager then straight after my father in-law came up to me (a pentacostal) and said to me “she will have to come to our church and get it done properly”. I wished I replied “you were married in the Lutheran church, perhaps you better get married again now 50 years latter and get it done right?”
Sorry but you're a Lutheran Pastor and your Founder was Martin Luther who was Ex-Communicated by the Catholic Church, which is by the way the True Church of Christ, which He Founded and Established. You as a Pastor, and all your Pastors are not Apostolic, thus all your Rituals are not Binding. Because all of you were Ordained outside the Apostolic Succession.
Jude 3 in the New Testament tells us that the faith was once for all delivered to the saints. That was way before mormonism came on the scene. The faith was already a done deal.
@@chrisleannwynnministries6927 I testify to you that the Book of Mormon is not only True but contains the same gospel preached in the New Testament. You do not understand the scriptures and the restoration thats taken place. Please just read the book and I promise you won't regret it!
@@darrisellis8810 I have read the BoM and read what passes for the catechism of the Mormon church, Gospel and Principles. I spent 4 months with weekly discussions with your missionaries. I have read Your Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price. They are all devoid of the Truth of God and His relieving gospel. Your teachers deceive you. The Mormon church is in error and must repent and return to the Church of Christ against which the gates of hell cannot prevail.
@@mithrawnudo2152 If The Words of Christ are devoid of Truth then it is you who has not the Spirit of God within you! The Book of Mormon is the pure Doctrine of Christ delivered to a branch of the House of Isreal. If you Couldn't find the truth in it it is because it is not in you.
@@darrisellis8810 as for me, I will trust in His church and His truth that has been practiced for 2,000 years, not the church or "truth" as revealed 200 years ago by a fraud and a false prophet.
While I love your messages, I cringe every-time I see you driving while creating them. You obviously have a hands-free setup for creating the videos, but your mind should be 100% concentrated on your driving and not on thinking about what you are going to say in the video.
We all have our differing levels of ability. He is not impeding traffic, he is aware of his surroundings, and he pulls over to read questions. Then edits it all later in his study. The majority of drivers in the country use such a small amount of their brain when driving, even without teaching a mobile Bible study. Also he is using less than 25% of the cars capabilities, which ultimately requires very little brain power. In my assessment, he seems to be leaving a lot of room for error.
There is hardly any traffic around him. It’s like having a conversation with someone in your car. I am sure he’s a very busy man. Isn’t it nice that he shares his knowledge and wisdom with us? I certainly feel blessed.
No,Jesus said follow me ,he was baptised in the Jordan fully immersed ,Jews today go to the mikvah for ritual washings they even though unbelievers practice full immersion.
Scott Jackson that’s simply not the case that Water Baptism is something different than baptism in the Holy Spirit. John 3:5 makes it clear that the baptism Jesus intends is one of water AND the Spirit. This is why Peter proclaims that we receive the Holy Spirit in Baptism (Acts 2:38). Paul calls baptism a washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5). It’s an error to dehydrate baptism.
But the verses I quoted clearly say that he was. I’ll bet that pastor will be giving a response to your comments (as he sometimes does), so I’ll defer to him. God’s peace be with you.
Sprinkle, pour, or immersion.
They are all equally valid as long as they are done in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
Holy spirit does not forgive sin!
John 20 :22&23
Holy spirit came from Jesus!
I was baptized by immersion in a non-Trinitarian cult, so now I have to be re-baptized, or actually baptized (by pouring) in the LCC, as soon as I'm catechized, that is. So excited!!!
Right on! I'm excited for you!!
I was raised in the two by twos. Which is non trinitarian.
Which “church” was that if it’s ok I ask?
Armstrongism/WCG
Wait! You are calling the Non-Trinitarian Doctrine, a 'CULT'? The Trinitarian Doctrine is Heresy, my friend!
Let's read Matthew 28:19:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
Jesus commanded baptism IN THE NAME OF. Then, He mentions three TITLES, Father, Son, Holy Ghost!
If you are married, you are a husband. If you have children, you are a Father. If you have parents, you are a Son!
Those are not your NAMES, but your TITLES! Jesus said to be baptized IN THE NAME OF.
Thus, the Father has a name! What is that name?
John 5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Jesus said that He came baring His Father's' NAME'! So what is the name of the Father? It's simple English!
The name of the Father is Jesus! Jesus came in His Father's name!
What is the name of the Holy Ghost?
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The comforter, whom the Father has sent, 'IN MY NAME'! The Father sent the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus!
Again, Simple English!
Thus, the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is JESUS! Simple English! Unless you don't understand plain English!
Why must we be submerged under water, like Jesus was submerged under water?
Matthew 3:13-17
13) “Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14) But John forbad him, saying, ‘I have need to be baptized of thee, and
comest thou to me?’
15) And Jesus answering said unto Him, ‘Suffer it to be so now: fo thus it
becometh us to fulfil all righteousness.’ Then he suffered Him.”
In verse 16, we clearly see that Jesus came up OUT of the water. He did not
have water sprinkled on Him, nor did He have water poured on Him.
16) “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway
out of the water:
and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God
descending like a dove, and ighting upon Him:”
If you had been baptized by having water sprinkled on you, or having water
poured on you, you couldn’t get,
OUT OFTHE WATER!
wake up, people! The Trinity Doctrine is Heresy! Read Acts 2:38. Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ!
Man... where was this video when I was convinced to be re-baptized by immersion?!?!?! Truly, thank the Lord for His mercy, & the validity of my sprinkled, infant baptism!!!
Mercy...that sums it up for each and all of us.
Same
You have to be immersed, even jesus was immersed under water
@@shortrob5762 Where? Where was Jesus 'immersed' (by which, I presume, you mean submerged as per modern baptistic modes)? No one is ever explicitly submerged in Scripture.
Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River ,John Baptized in anon because there was much water there Phillip and the eunuch went down into the water.and he baptized him we must copy what they did in Scriptures
Coming from an independent black baptist church, I have always been taught we have to be immersed into water. When you spoke about the 3000 being baptized with a river or a lake being nearby, made me question all that I have been taught about baptism. Thank you for your teaching on the spirituality and symbolism. It is not the form, but the presence of God being there.
Ok but your independent church is very new. For the last nearly 2000 years there has never been any requirement to be immersed in baptism. Only the very new churches have made this rule. It is a man made doctrine.
also, how did they immerse people during household baptisms?
what is hilarious is that the Baptists think baptism does nothing but if you don't do it the way they do, it's not a valid baptism, even though it does nothing
No, no, if thete is no immersion the whole thing loses its meaning look at Romans 6:3,4; and Col 2:10-13.
Don't just follow because someone philosophy on a biblical truth! You have to look from all the texts in the Bible.
No, no, if thete is no immersion the whole thing loses its meaning look at Romans 6:3,4; and Col 2:10-13.
Don't just follow because someone philosophy on a biblical truth! You have to look from all the texts in the Bible.
Dang Pastor!!!! Every episode blows my mind! I had never thought about the 3,000 baptised at Pentecost....No water except at the temple I guess and I am SURE they wouldn't let Peter and the gang in that joint! As a Catholic I really appreciate your ministry-even and especially when you tear into us Catholics-it gives me a lot to think about, even when I sometimes disagree. God bless!
There's watering pools all over Jerusalem that's not a problem springs too.i like Jesus said to Nicodemus you must be born of water and Spirit John 3 5 Acts 2 38
Great video! Some would accuse Lutherans of “throwing water” on people to save them. I’d love to see a video about this and how the theology of “once saved always saved” complicates the understanding of a biblical baptism and salvation. A wise woman much younger than myself once said, “Jesus died for my sins over 2000 years ago. I know this is true even though I don’t remember it.” It’s the same with my baptism. I don’t remember being adopted. Yet I am! It wasn’t about me. It was about Gods great love for me. Praise God I was then taught to remain in Him. By the power of the Holy Spirit received in my baptism and the nourishment of it, given to me in his Word and his very body and blood, I can do just that. God be praised!!
Once saved always saved is not Biblical. Look to the story of the parable of the wheat. Some of the seed is spread on thin ground. It springs up but then dies. These are the people that accept the Word, but do not stay in the faith. A faith that is not fed by the Word and praise to God can wither away. We all have free will and can choose to not stay faithful.
Baptism, what a great gift from God
Thanks for this video. I’ve been a Christian for 4.5 years and have just recently started to believe in infant baptism. Now I’m studying the argument for baptism by pouring and baptism by sprinkling.
at 11:30 when you said “you are baptized” I started to tear up. thank you so much for this!! i feel so comforted!!
Any amount of water is fine. The power is in the word.
So well said and simply put. Towards the end you speak of the very thoughts I have had for years; symbolism or a spiritual dynamic that we can't see or is it both. Great stuff Bryan. Good to know God can work in our hearts inspite of our tendancy to over think at times. I think this is a debate that won't end as church positions seemingly need to be defended; denominational pride lends itself to wanting to be most right.
A sister in the Lord in our congregation is fervently against single serve cups of the fruit of the vine, because she says that as Jesus shared one cup, so should we share one cup. Then again, we are an (Dutch) Evangelical congregation, so of course the form matters to her as it is a symbol in her perception. What's your opinion/insight about the *form* of the Lord's Supper?
This is quite comforting! The promises of the Gospel of God our Savior!
Thank you so much you helped clear up some questions. I thank God for you and your ministry. May God be with you and all our church leaders.
Very well stated. Thank you and God's peace be with you also.
Thank you and God Bless you🙏🏻✝️
I appreciate the sentiment that the symbolism of dying and being reborn via immersion is not what is important- I completely agree with that.
But I think it's a bit of a red herring to say that the people who are concerned with the form are only concerned with the symbolism. And that's a dangerous red herring to make. I think what is much more likely true, as this 8s what is true for me, is I'm not much concerned at all with the symbolism of it- but I AM concerned about the mechanics and efficacy of it. The debate is really about whether the form effects the efficacy of the baptism.
Of course I would note that most Christians would believe that's God's grace is not bound by form. But for those of us seeking to know and follow truth it ends up mattering.
Really- if it it's about being buried and reborn with Christ, then immersion is not symbolic. It is LITERAL.
Pouring and sprinkling then are the symbolic forms.
Have you ever been to a restaurant that served a "deconstructed" dish ? Such as a "deconstructed Turkey sandwich" ?
What that would mean is it has all of the ingredients of a Turkey sandwich but not arranged into a sandwich. Which is surely an interesting experience.
But if the Bible calls us to be reborn by making a Turkey sandwich, it may not be good enought to simply have the ingredients on a plate. The proper form would actually matter in reconstructing the, not symbolic but rather literal dish.
They entombed people back then
Hey Pastor! Great video! Is there a good resource that answers anabaptist objections to the Lutheran understanding of baptism? Maybe a dialogue or debate on the subject?
Vimeo...Faith Capo has great stuff. Obviously Luteran Public Radio...KFUO...Lutheran Witness...Book of Conchord...Bible...talk to your pastor
Best explanation ever. Thank you brother.
Lifetime Baptist. Thank you for the kind words and his lecture today have a wonderful weekend.
I would say immersion is much more preferable, both from the text and early church history, pouring being the back up mode when immersion isn't possible. As laid out in the Didache.
But concerning baptism, thus shall ye baptize. Having first recited all these things, baptize {in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost} in living water. But if thou hast not living water, then baptize in other water; and if thou art not able in cold, then in warm. But if thou hast neither, then pour water on the head thrice in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let him that baptizeth and him that is baptized fast, and any others also who are able; and thou shalt order him that is baptized to fast a day or two before.
It doesn’t really matter either way. Just like it doesn’t matter if the water is hot or cold. I think if you are worried about that, you don’t really understand baptism. Without the Word, it’s just water.
For me, this video is sound and conclusive on the debate of forms of baptism.
Great videos! This has Recently been a big topic of discussion between my wife and I. I think this video will add to our discourse wonderfully.
If it’s not a symbol then the form doesn’t matter? I think I understand. Thank you for making these videos. They’re very helpful.
Awesome talk. Thank you!
My son will be a pastor praise be to Jesus Alleilua
Thank you for your video! It really helped!❤
I recently read in a book on the Sacraments by Johan Gerhard, that another reason John the Baptist was called to baptise in the Jordan was in order to fulfil the typology set through Joshua when Israel crossed the Jordan to finally receive the rest of their promised Land. In a similar way the Baptism of John was the crossing of Israel into the Kingdom of Heaven. So, I was thinking, maybe it wasn't just for immersion.
I continue to be deeply saddened over the divisions in the church over Baptism and the Lord’s Supper. ✔️
❤❤Amen, any division is grievous. We all want unity.
What kind of baptism is a part of the salvation process? What did Peter say below?
Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
How did the early church get this wrong so quickly ???
@@bigtobacco1098 The answer is found in Acts 15:24 and the Book of Hebrews. Many of the early Christians could not let go of the Old Covenant. Ritual washing was a part of the Old Covenant system.
Heb 9:10 only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them . (YLT)
@SpotterVideo many isn't all... Jesus said his church would never fail... Matthew 16.18
@SpotterVideo the Hebrews passage had nothing to do with the reformation
@@bigtobacco1098 The time of the "reformation" in this verse is going from the Old Covenant system given to Moses at Mount Sinai, to the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the new covenant church of Mount Sion and the blood of Jesus in Hebrews 12:22-24.
So I have no problem with Pour verses immerse. To me the central issue is the baptism of "believers." as mentioned in your talk referencing the 3000 baptized; "Those who accepted the message were baptized, ... Acts 2:41. Why do some churches baptize babies?
I know that I was baptized once for the forgiveness of sin. I was immersed at age 12, but I had been begging my parents to let me be baptized earlier than that. I was not re-baptized (appropriately) when I joined the Lutheran Church. However, I think back and realized that my cousins often baptized each other in the swimming pool when we were kids, saying "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit." So I wonder, was I actually baptized earlier than my "official baptism"? This has been bouncing around in my mind of late. Not that it matters, but I'm curious...
You can only have one valid baptism. Even if you came back to the original Church founded by Jesus, the Catholic Church, you would not be baptised. You would receive the Sacrament of Confirmation (which Jesus gave first to the Apostles when he sent them out on mission in pairs) and you would be received into the Church and then you would receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist which would complete your journey to Christian Initiation as it is called. It is possible to receive a valid baptism from your cousins in a swimming pool - but under these circumstances the Catholic church would probably recommend a "conditional" baptism - this is a baptism that is only valid if the previous, dubious one is invalid (but you don't know it if it or not)
The different I suppose is that if the conditional baptism is not valid (and you can't possibly know) then although you know you have definitely been baptised....you do not know that all of your sins have been forgiven immediately after a conditional baptism...so you do still have to repent and confess your sins like Jesus taught his disciples after they had been baptised for some time.
All this is just out of curiosity you have been baptised now for sure anyway so happy days!
Beautiful baptismal regenerational promises...though this cold and flu season keep handsitizer handy
I believe.
Baptism means immersion. No confusion there. Jesus was baptized in the Jordan river.
I agree with you but the Bible says Matthew 18:18. Water baptized is required symbolically but only belief and repentance are what saves. If you are baptized wrong (sprinkled or water over head) and your heart is right your faith is great and you love God with all your heart and soul and you love your brother as Jesus commanded...likewise I'd you were Water baptized fully immersed and don't do the other things I'd be worried I was in the 2nd category not the first.
Sometimes I ponder my own baptism, which was in an Assemblies of God church when I was a child. I don’t remember much about what I believed, or how I understood baptism, or if I knew what it meant. It was supposed to be an immersion, but I didn’t go completely under. I wonder about it frequently.
As long as they did it in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit it’s valid regardless of whether you went all the way under or not.
The Didache is a 1st Century text that was widely used as the first Christian formation and worship manual before the New Testament had been compiled and declared the canon.
It says living (flowing) water by triple immersion is preferable, but if that’s not practical, then the next preference is to triple immerse in still water, if that is not practical, then triple pour or sprinkle in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
Simple, direct, and to the point.
question pastor: Can an unbeliever baptise and it be valid? I am a Catholic and I think I have heard that in extreme cases they can but I don't know why and what is your church's position?
If you don't think baptism does anything what difference does the mode make?
At around the end you kind of confused the whole thing as you on one side you say the FORM does not mater; but on the other hand you said "if the form is lost, then there is no symbol." Wouldn't this case, then, nullify the importance and the necessity of baptism?
good explanation, helpful
Amber Alert issued for Backseat Luther. Last known whereabouts: Pastor’s backseat.
Hehehe
He is self quarantined.
After living in Florida a while, you learn that besides the Amber alert, there are other alerts, namely the Silver Alert.
I think this would be classified as a Silver Alert. Missing elderly Luther. Sometimes grumpy and likes his wife's home brewed beer. Reward offered for any information leading to his safe return. Reward is the Word of God.
It does matter. But not in the way you think.
Some churches believe that tradition is more important the the written word of the bible.
Other churches believe that the written word of the bible is more important than tradition.
Sprinkling falls into the former, while immersion falls into the later.
This is an important distinction because it determines who can be a priest or priestess.
The former is a separate profession, where the later is anyone who is baptized by immersion.
I will be honest, I do not know much about sprinkling. But I know more than most about immersion.
I will connect the dots that God showed me in His book.
First thing to understand is that the old testament is not separate from the new testament. Jesus is the God of the old testament. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
Hebrews makes it clear that Jesus is our high priest. And It is clear in Hebrews that the sanctuary built by the direction of God through Moses and the people is a symbol of Jesus body.
Jesus does something peculiar in the last supper. He washes the feet of His disciples.
This is important because when the Hebrew priests went into the tent of the sanctuary, a symbol of Jesus body, they had to wash their hands and feet before entry. And when they first became a priest, their entire body was washed.
Peter tells Jesus that His hands and head should be washed, and not just his feet. Jesus replied that feet is enough.
This is peculiar because by washing someone else's feet, your hands are washed. And if no one washes your feet, Jesus himself will wash your feet.
Understanding that service to others washes your hands, will wash your mind/head. Focus on service to others and ignore service to self.
The understanding back in the time of Jesus was focused on self and the law.
wash my feet and hands before entry into the temple. But Jesus redefines what is known and illuminates the service to others as more important and useful than service to self.
By washing the feet of His disciples, Jesus is telling them that they are priests in His temple/body/tent. And to be a priest of God your entire body should be washed. They accomplished this through immersion baptism.
But biblically speaking, You don't have to do full immersion. A sponge bath baptism would do just fine as well.
The symbol of washing the entire body is important because it connects your knowledge back to the sanctuary.
can you be saved if you were only immersion baptized? Of course you can.
God "winks" at ignorant sin. He doesn't see it. He judges based on what you know, not on legal technicalities.
It is a "sin" because it misses the target.
sprinkle baptism does not teach someone to be a priest or priestess of Jesus.
There is nothing to wrestle about. Once you receive Christ, then you get baptized. It's not confusing.
I was baptised as a baby by sprinkling. A time ago I joked about debaptism as going into water for swimming. I rejected Jesus and Christianity until a few Month ago. Do I have to be baptized again?
You did not even talk about Jesus being baptized by John the baptizer, pretty sure that was an important baptism!
“Now John wore a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt around his waist, and his food was locusts and wild honey. Then Jerusalem and all Judea and all the region about the Jordan were going out to him, and they were baptized by him IN the river Jordan, confessing their sins.
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“And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went UP from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him..”
It was an important baptism, but Jesus was not the recipient of Christian Baptism (which He hadn't even instituted yet) - he was the recipient of the Baptism of John.
Could you identify where in this text, or any other text of the Bible, immersion (and by this, my baptist friends almost always actually mean 'SUBmersion') is the explicitly defined mode of 'baptizo'. I'd be happy, in exchange, to share the instances where it's communicated through pouring.
Scripture will define words by example. Do you ever find someone baptized in Scripture in any other way than immersion? I love my Lutheran friends but this is just complicating the issue.
Baptism will take take you to Heaven. That being said. Baptism is immersion. People try to justify what they do but the word is very clear. People went into wildness to be baptized by John the baptist.
Thank you for a very articulate and thoughtful presentation... as always.😊. Sometime might you be brave enough to address wether or not we are born with immortal souls. I think you know where I’m going with this. Thanks and God Bless.
As in, "this mortal must put on immortality..."
I was baptized in an ELCA church. Does that count?🤔😉
Yes. The two required elements are water and the words "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
Yes...and Amen. Luther said "Even if satan himself immersed you in the name of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...God's promises would prevail per scripture...my paraphrase of Luther
I picked on Immersion assuming satan would go that way to sow further confusion
I’m kidding around, of course. I know it counted.:)
Jesus bless u
Sorry,but I think the practice of to pouring or sprinkling water, especially over babies, and before they are at the age of reason and choosing to repent of their sins & to follow Jesus, is unscriptural & "adding to" the scriptures. While my parents had me "christened" as a baby in the Lutheran Church, when I began reading the scripture for myself & understood what Jesus was explaining what we must do to be saved, I chose to be immersed, but in a different denomination, to follow scripture & his command.
We have to copy Jesus baptism that's why he got baptized in the River Jordan it's deep you can get baptized in a swimming pool or ocean lake bathtub Phillip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch in a desert Oasis pond he got baptized in Jesus name in the Bible all baptized in the book of Acts that the original baptism Peter said unto them repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the holy ghost
No where in the bible says anything about baby's being baptized.
Believe and get baptised..the main issue in sprinkling is it was done without any faith.. without faith there is no Salvation .
Why would I have to get baptised with out faith..what if I start to sprinkle water on people on the roads ..are they saved .
The devil is a deceiver ...
I heard that people started been baptized by sprinkling of water when Christian were prosecuted and were hiding in caves where there were no much water aound them. That is what we were told.
Jesus came to bring division NOT peace.
“Have to shmave to”
Does the bible speak out against re-baptism anywhere?
I am still struggling a lot still wanting a full immersion,and to confess my faith in Jesus.....had an infant baptism with sprinkling water but no confirmation later on was an "ateist" when I was younger not sure about what I believed I still belong to the Danish Lutheran- Evangelic state church they state they dont accept re-baptism graven images is accepted in a lot of this churches,gay marriages,and I find the ritual about the confirmation strange,and unbiblical..found other believers outside the church they offer free baptism with full immersion outside the church still I need to learn more about why the church I am born in are seeing re-baptism as heracy?will little children,or others who are not able to willfully sin,or to grasp the nature of sin not belong to Jesus automatically?if not baptized I like to believe they do..
You better hope so because it wasn't done this way for over a millennia... 😮kinda like infant baptism
Yeah... or did baptism disappear for a very long time ??
The Didache mentions that various modes are acceptable, but it gives an order of preference. I think we ought to go with what Luther practiced and all the Orthodox churches, which have never changed the form since the beginning. I mean, why change the form from what your predecessor used? What’s the motive? Even in places where water is precious and rare, people take baths. AND, for the sake of unity, and if it doesn’t really matter, then why not immerse? Is it out of stubbornness?
The word baptism means to immerse fully, used of dying a cloth. All instances of baptism in the NT were full immersion. It represents not only the washing and transforming work of the Blood of the Lamb (as in a piece of material that is fully immersed and completely changed) but also symbolises dying, being buried and being born again. There is no other Biblically accurate way of Baptising, and whilst not being baptised by full immersion or any means does not mean you're not saved (baptism is not salvific) it does mean that you are not obeying God's Word but rather following the traditions of man. Infant baptism is meaningless and means nothing. You must 'believe (first) and be baptised".
Yes.
Hey, you didn't even watch the video yet
Hear my confession: I comment on RUclips videos before watching them.🤔
Believe and faith is also important. We must put complete trust and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and then at baptism determine to never sin. The Lord and His apostles never sinned, if they sinned, they repented like Peter who repented immediately Alleilua
I was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ in a UPCI church in south Korea in 1971 I was. 21. Years old your either have done it by tradition or the bible way the Apostles baptized all in Jesus name that should end the debate old testament no baptism needed only in new testament Salvation is required sprinkling and pouring is wrong
If God condemned trillions of people over thousands of years to burn in unconscionable agony for infinity because they screwed up the symbolism of the baptismal ceremony, would that be a good, loving, merciful, just, forgiving god or would that be a horrible, evil, merciless, tyrant god?
Baptism has nothing to do with your salvation.
Whew!
So the question for Lutherans is why infant baptism?
Just one thing.........God is our true judge,and I believe whats innocent belongs to God,and he is righteous.....I also acknowledge my re-baptized brothers,and sisters in christ...
I am of the baptist faith and I have always been taught that baptism is an outward expression of what has happened to you on the inside (salvation). So with that being said you can not be adopted in this way as a baby bc you have no idea about Jesus and what he did for you on the cross. Love your videos btw just looking for thoughts on this matter
Im glad you're not my pastor.
You must turn Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus. Submerged and backwards. Afterward you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit that God's gift and seal on you. I'm a Reformed Baptist of America.
Fully immersed as jesus was in the jordan
Read ACT 2.
I'm not trying to start an argument here, just an observation. I'd like to know your opinion on something that Martin Luther said. I read this excerpt from one of his sermons years ago and I wrote it down. I don't remember the title of the sermon, but part of what he said was this; " There is not sufficient evidence from Scripture that one might justify the introduction of infant baptism at the time of the early Christians after the apostolic period." What do you think? I have great respect for Martin Luther.
My apologies for not having it memorized or looking it up, but in the Holy Scriptures, it is written that whole families and households were baptized. Were all of those families and households without children? May not be a guarantee, but reasonable to say there would have been at least one baby.
Luther defended infant baptism and so does the Book of Concord.
Being Baptized is being buried with Christ. Telling people otherwise is misleading...immersion is the only way
Sir , obey GOD'S WORD.
Our example is Lord Jesus Himself .
Please read St.Matthew 3: 14 to 17.
Thank you.
Immersion is symbolic of dying a watery death from sin and being reborn in Jesus Christ. Just because you say there was no body of water in Jerusalem doesn’t mean the people weren’t getting immersed. I believe in the adult immersion in water. The symbol does matter.
PEOPLE don't know their bible.
How did Jesus get baptized? By immersion!
Baptism count because is our sign in ghifted of Lord,like music design ghive us the right of to be cristian
I have one question... The Apostle Paul was the Apostle for the Gentiles, correct? Why did he never tell us, the Gentiles, to be baptised? I believe baptizing was for the Jews only. It was for the Priests and the Jews were all going to be Priests even Jesus. I hope you read this... God Bless you and all your audience.
See 1 Cor12:13: “For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and all were made to drink of one Spirit.” Also Gal 3:27. There are also other verses indicating baptism of Gentiles.
@@stevekukuk9253 the word "in" is also translated "by" or "with." I think of great importance is the verse that tells us that "no one can say Jesus is Lord" but by the Holy Spirit.
When my daughter was baptised in a Lutheran church as a teenager then straight after my father in-law came up to me (a pentacostal) and said to me “she will have to come to our church and get it done properly”.
I wished I replied “you were married in the Lutheran church, perhaps you better get married again now 50 years latter and get it done right?”
No such thing as baby baptism.
Sorry but you're a Lutheran Pastor and your Founder was Martin Luther who was Ex-Communicated by the Catholic Church, which is by the way the True Church of Christ, which He Founded and Established. You as a Pastor, and all your Pastors are not Apostolic, thus all your Rituals are not Binding. Because all of you were Ordained outside the Apostolic Succession.
Form does matter, as expressed in the OT. God is not a God of confusion but of Order.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the mode does matter. You need to read your lexicon
I'm Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal baptized in Jesus name to us it's important we believe in speaking in tongues too
Repent! You are not Christian
I love you Brother and admire your devotion to God. Get a Book of Mormon, read it and your eyes will be opened to the truth!
Jude 3 in the New Testament tells us that the faith was once for all delivered to the saints. That was way before mormonism came on the scene. The faith was already a done deal.
@@chrisleannwynnministries6927 I testify to you that the Book of Mormon is not only True but contains the same gospel preached in the New Testament. You do not understand the scriptures and the restoration thats taken place. Please just read the book and I promise you won't regret it!
@@darrisellis8810 I have read the BoM and read what passes for the catechism of the Mormon church, Gospel and Principles. I spent 4 months with weekly discussions with your missionaries. I have read Your Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price.
They are all devoid of the Truth of God and His relieving gospel. Your teachers deceive you. The Mormon church is in error and must repent and return to the Church of Christ against which the gates of hell cannot prevail.
@@mithrawnudo2152 If The Words of Christ are devoid of Truth then it is you who has not the Spirit of God within you! The Book of Mormon is the pure Doctrine of Christ delivered to a branch of the House of Isreal. If you Couldn't find the truth in it it is because it is not in you.
@@darrisellis8810 as for me, I will trust in His church and His truth that has been practiced for 2,000 years, not the church or "truth" as revealed 200 years ago by a fraud and a false prophet.
While I love your messages, I cringe every-time I see you driving while creating them. You obviously have a hands-free setup for creating the videos, but your mind should be 100% concentrated on your driving and not on thinking about what you are going to say in the video.
We all have our differing levels of ability. He is not impeding traffic, he is aware of his surroundings, and he pulls over to read questions. Then edits it all later in his study.
The majority of drivers in the country use such a small amount of their brain when driving, even without teaching a mobile Bible study. Also he is using less than 25% of the cars capabilities, which ultimately requires very little brain power. In my assessment, he seems to be leaving a lot of room for error.
There is hardly any traffic around him. It’s like having a conversation with someone in your car. I am sure he’s a very busy man. Isn’t it nice that he shares his knowledge and wisdom with us? I certainly feel blessed.
jesus takes the wheel
No, it does not count. See Acts 4.
So do i have to have immersion baptism, i was sprinkled.
@@shortrob5762 No, immersion is just one way to be baptized.
@@shortrob5762 No, immersion is just one way to be baptized.
No,Jesus said follow me ,he was baptised in the Jordan fully immersed ,Jews today go to the mikvah for ritual washings they even though unbelievers practice full immersion.
Jesus wasn't baptized with water Mark 1:8 KJV
Yes, He was. Matthew 3:15-16, Mark 1:9-10, Luke 3:21-22
@@williammetz7500 Baptized with the Holy Ghost not with water
Scott Jackson that’s simply not the case that Water Baptism is something different than baptism in the Holy Spirit. John 3:5 makes it clear that the baptism Jesus intends is one of water AND the Spirit. This is why Peter proclaims that we receive the Holy Spirit in Baptism (Acts 2:38). Paul calls baptism a washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5). It’s an error to dehydrate baptism.
@@williammetz7500 Jesus had no sins to confess Matthew 3:6 so he wasn't baptized
But the verses I quoted clearly say that he was. I’ll bet that pastor will be giving a response to your comments (as he sometimes does), so I’ll defer to him. God’s peace be with you.