Did MV Rubymar Cut Cables in the Red Sea? | Abandoned, Adrift, and Sinking after Houthi Attack
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Abandoned in the Red Sea
What's Going on With Shipping?
Feb. 27, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - examines a video showing:
1️⃣ Condition of Rubymar
2️⃣ Damage to the vessel
3️⃣ Potential for salvage
4️⃣ Did Rubymar snag undersea cables?
5️⃣ Sinking or Salvage?
00:00 Introduction
00:50 Background on Rubymar
02:00 Can Rubymar be Salvaged?
09:50 Did Rubymar's anchor break undersea cables?
11:59 Conclusion
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Maritime Executive reports, "According to the port authority, the vessel is laden with 22,000 tonnes of fertilizer, and it is a potentially explosive cargo (IMDG Class 5.1)."
The ship is drifting northward in the Red Sea. If there is not enough chain paid out and due to her increased weight from flooding, she may be dragging her anchor along the bottom and snagging cables on the sea floor.
Would it be possible for a salvage company to board and let out the port anchor, providing it's long enough to be effective? Or could a longer or more effective anchor be attached from a second vessel?
Even converting 32,200 dwt from metric tons to short tons only gives 35,533 short tons. I wonder how CENTCOM came up with their number? From the photos during the initial phase, 22,000 metric tons seems more appropriate given the freeboard.
Its abandoned, a drift and no one is aboard, while on international waters if i'm understanding this correctly? What prevents anyone really getting there, patching the hole with plates, pumping water out and tug it into destination or another suitable port to unload? Also isint there inflatable tarp type of thing that can be floated under the ship and inflated to cover the holes well as add buoyancy?
@@Hellsong89 What ”anyone”? Who has The capacity, expertise, manpower, vessels to do something like this?
@@Hellsong89 No salvage firm would do this without a contract and confirmed payment.
The other issue is the ship's location so close to Houthi territory.
There are devices for refloating ships, but it will be more than just covering holes with plates as you would have to do this from outside the vessel.
I never cared for maritime news until your channel! Thank you sir!
So nice of you
i never HEARD of it, until this channel. 😗
@@privacylock855 YES, that’s true as well!
O well
he does make it interesting.
I’m fully landlocked, have never been in deep water and I love this channel. So interesting.
Thanks Braden.
Same here, I'm watching from Switzerland. It feels like this is information that should be brought in the news because we all depend on these ships.
My condolences. ;-) I have spent all but three years of my life within 30 miles of salt water.
Closes I came to visiting the sea was at White Rock Beach BC as a little kid. Most of my life was spent on the Canadian Prairies. Only pirates Canada ever breed was Pirates of the North Saskatchewan River.
Morbidly fascinating - what a world we live in.
I am an LSA engineer, operating mostly in Europe. Whenever I see footage like this, I look for the boats, and always get a sense of accomplishment when I see empty davits....even if I have had nothing to do with the vessel.
It means someone like me, somewhere on this earth, did his job and made sure that the LSA gear was fit for purpose. This is why we do what we do, and why I love what I do. Thanks for the video, good work. Subscribed.....
Thank YOU ! 💥
Live Saving Apparatus?
@@davidpawson7393 yeh..Life Saving Appliances....
Houthis have properly evacuated every ship they attacked. They may just want prisoners for negotiations but they do take them all alive and keep them well fed.
@@amirabdulla6076 Mighty white of them.
13:15 This is also an issue that was discovered on the US Navy LCS ships. Sure automation reduced the crew size which made them cheaper to operate but the smaller crew compromised the battle worthiness if the ship was to come under fire or have some other emergency (it's not unheard of for Navy ships to run into things).
Hehehe, yep, Russian subs, underwater mountains, Russian subs, US navy ships, Australian Navy ships, Russian subs, whales, Russian whales....
Ships passing thru this area have been hiring security teams to deal with piratical behavior. Maybe they need to start hiring former Damage Control team members to handle fires and watertight integrity problems.
@@sofnsad Operational pace + reduced sleep hours = fatal mistakes.
Stretched too thin.
Good potential recruits avoiding the w0keness.
Downhill from here.
@@sofnsadNowadays Chinese "fishing" boats as well.
@@sofnsadremember a US Navy sub (USS Greenville) hitting a Japanese high school fishery trading boat near Hawaii.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehime_Maru_and_USS_Greeneville_collision
They were trying to show off!
Given the ship originated from Sadia Arabia my best guesses is the cargo is either urea or DAP (diammonium phosphate). Both fertilizers are relatively easy to ship by bulk carrier. Given the destination was Bulgaria. it's most likely cargo is urea.... as the cost of urea is relatively high in Europe at the moment (roughly $350/metric ton) and fertilizer dealers would be stocking up on urea for the spring planting..
That gives a very nice broader context for what the economic impact can be, thank you!
Thanks, this is incredibly interesting when you consider the current use of Urea to "reduce diesel vehicle emissions" in the west too. Probably half of what's driving up the price and causing food price increases too.
I have since seen a report indicating the cargo was Ammonium Nitrate (AN). This makes sense as newer information indicates the cargo was an "potentially explosive cargo (IMDG Class 5.1)... see @wgowshipping's comment above... neither urea or DAP are explosive . Sadia Arabia makes a small amount of ammonium nitrate (about 4 million metric tons/yr) so AN is a plausible export. Likewise Bulgaria is a net exporter of ammonium nitrate, hence, has an internal market for the the AN. Given the shortage and cost of natural gas in Europe at the moment, Bulgaria may not be able to produce AN economically hence the need to import. I am a bit surprised to see the Bulgarian's pick AN. Ammonium Nitrate over urea as AN has a substantially lower nitrogen content than urea making it far more economic to ship urea (per unit of nitrogen) and AN is far more hydroscopic making it less desirable to ship by ocean... as water damage may require the cargo to be re-melted and re-prilled.
Great brief! Thanks for putting the picture together!
Look at the rails by the area where she's bending, they are slightly folded - you nailed it! Also on the starboard rail a break in the deck edge plating....the blast wave may have actually bent the ship a bit right at that bulkhead.
Been listening out of curiosity for years but these last few months have made you a prime source of detail and depth we just don’t get from mainstream sources. Thank you for everything you do
Thanks!
my dad was chief mate in ALASKA appreciate your position and your great explanation thank you!
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Thanks for another great report Sal
Great reporting Sal!
Big Thumbs up 👍👍👍👍
Keep up the great work!
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Thank you for bringing part of the world to us.
During the cold war Ships used to drag anchor in Swedish waters and pull up Sea mines.
Fixed mines are connected to a cable for wartime activation and can either be floating or bottom laying
Ansarallah have sea mines all around their coastline. not sure if the rubymar is anywhere near close enough to activate one
@@marvinDozerI don’t think they’ve actually laid them yet. They have a ton, though.
Always fascinated with your insight, can’t get it anywhere else. Thanks!
I never knew I needed updates of this sort until I became a subscriber. Now I know better. Thanks for the content
Judging by the way the oil slick s trailing straight aft, the anchor is on bottom. It may not be holding the ship in place, but it is keeping her bow into whatever wind/current there is.
You mean because of the loop the slick makes? It's also quite possible that the weight of the flooded part of the ship is what is causing that rotation, acting as an "anchor" of sorts. How long can an anchor chain be? We're talking of some 130 meters to the bottom here, as seen in the chart.
The ship could be stationary while the current takes the slick with it.
Will it hold on one anchor? How close
are the cables that it could sever?
and yet again ,
excellent and timely report.
thank you Sir
Excellent explanation of what is happening to that ship. Very scary situation based on the possible implications.
Thank you so much for your channel!!! It’s so interesting on so many different levels - especially now!!! Thank you 🙏
We look forward to your videos!
Wow great channel never knew about vessel’s or ships that much till I watched this channel thank you…
Thank you!
notification set to ALL received , subscribed, given 👍, Audio, Video is Good.
Thank you. You are trending now. That's how I ended up watching the entire episode. Keep up with the good work.
Writing down something for myself. So this one ship can carry 32'000 tons of cargo. So it is equivalent to 32'000/20= 1600 TIR lorries or 1600/40= 40 cargo train compositions (roughly)
Another great video! Thanks Sal.
Not a single mention about this story on UK MSM. Thanks for telling it. 👍
Good informations, objectives too and this is the best aspect in those times of so many enormous lies from official medias. Hope you go on like this. Thank you.
Update! Bulp bulp bulp!
Scary and concerning times Sal. I'm glad we have you to help make it make sense, (if sense is possible in this madness!)
And - - look at your subscriber count FLY!! You're going to hit 200 K any day now!! And every one of them was earned! Congratulations Sal!
Scary and concerning for Palestinians in particular - let’s not forget why this blockade is in place
@@tubthump30 years of US bombings in the middle east
I hate to see a ship like this , old but still had some life . Sal , good reporting, love your show !!!👏👏👏
8:00 - The angle of the portside stanchions at that point says yes, it's gone.
Incredible that the boat is still afloat. Agree with you, there is no way it stays that way for much longer.
934k views. This is very good news for you and your channel. I’m happy for you. Keep up the good work 😊🎉
Superb video, enjoyed the analysis about the damage very interesting
Gem of a channel..thanks for very interesting facts and info 👏
So nice of you
I learn so much each time I watch these videos. Thanks, Sal.
thank you! for the update on this event.
This is not a picture of a fully loaded vessel initially on her marks, just look at how far the bows are in the air?? The reason she is afloat is because she has a large amount of reserve buoyancy which doesn't strike me as carrying a full load of cargo initially as described.
It could be caused relative to where it was hit. Weighing the back end significantly more than the front. And then shifting. Either way this crap wouldn’t be happening under Trump.. and them sand cowboys better start acting right come November because if not there’s going to be a crap ton… I mean a LITERAL SHIT TONNE of newly built parking lots. All over the place. Few parking everywhere!!!
@@brandonsmith2299 you're on the wrong side with this one. Enabling and arming a genocide. Any moral authority the Americans and their allies had is sinking faster than this ship.
@@brandonsmith2299what good would trump do?! 😂
His brain is flipping boiled. All he does is scream and whinge.
Well, trump talks hard but clear, Biden talk... something but nefarious things happen to create war in the background out of Biden hands or minds in this case. Who is actually running US? The warmonger?
@@buchanfoulsham6314 Ya misspelt 'Biden' . The whole world is laughing at the geriatric running your country, and even more at the usefull idiots still cheering him on.
On
Great commentary, wonderful show.
Thanks again, Sal. You have set a standard for shipping and international trade news. Everyone else is now playing catch-up to you.
No divers. Use paired UUVs with suction cup or epoxy grab-anchors to manipulator arm hold the drone to the hullside as you jam and hold nozzles of high expansion rate plastic foam into the breached plates.
Stop water ingress. Apply Quick-Crete saturated canvas patches over the hull perforations. The edge is a pull strip which exposes an epoxy which gives rapid patch adhesion, the middle is naval sailcloth, impregnated with self-setting concrete 'dust' which hardens the rest of the patch (think bandaid peel and stick with an integral plaster).
You've now sealed the hull. Drill through an undamaged plate, opposite side from the breach, and insert/weld a pump and evacuation stent (one above the other) to begin draining the hull, from the bottom. Push air in, accelerate water out.
Stability is not an issue, water exits the same way it entered (via gravity) and the ship rises as the air moves up. This is essential because you don't want to 'suck' on the water or you will pop the patches.
You want a constant pressure differential of an increasing air bubble providing an enhanced, natural, gravity flow , downwards, not outwards.
Interesting theory. I just wonder if they have the means to do that at all. Almost certainly not.
It is nice to hear from someone who knows what he's talking about and explain it clearly to the uninitiated. I, myself am a retired merchant navy navigator and can attest that the information is authentic. looking at the chart displayed on the video, not likely that the anchor reached the bottom, and even if it reached would not do any good.
Professor Sal Thank You for the update
Thank you for such a technical breakdown. Always grateful to learn new things.
Thanks again Sal for coverage on what's going on in the Red Sea areas. I learned a lot about Ships 🚢 from your channel
The successes from Prosperity Guardian just keep piling up!
Seriously??? The successes are that there aren't loads of ships floating around off Yemen. Guessing you're a russian bot.
Prosperity Guardian is just USA window dressing. We no longer really care about the safety of oceanic shipping.
guarding other people's ships only cost us money and lets dictators prosper
@@blafonovision4342
The us has ports along the pacific and Atlantic. They can manage. This is just a slave mission for Israel
@@blafonovision4342I’m more concerned about the Palestinians
This could be quite a salvage deal for somebody. There are some amazing stories of salvage vessels chronicled in two books written by Farley Mowat about Foundation Salvage out of Halifax, Nova Scotia. These are hair raising adventures of salvage operations in the North Atlantic and are a great read for land lubber and seaman alike. The first book “ Grey Seas Under” covers the early days when steam was king and the second “ Foundation Josephine” covers a later period. I would recommend them to anyone who is drawn to the sea and love a good adventure story.
Channel is rapidly approaching 200k subscribers, well done and it's well deserved great content
Wonderful post. Very informative. Thank you Sal.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank for updating thing is crazy 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏
thanks, Sal, you da man!
Thanks Sal. Very informative. Measured and casual delivery.
Glad it was helpful!
Never thought I would be subscribed to a channel about maritime shipping. Very informative video as always, thanks for posting.
Thank you.
Hey! That is a nice Lego globe you got there, does it also have fitting ship models you can put on it?
They would be a bit big for the scale, but would make it even cooler as a background theme of your channel :D
Yes that would be great for showing the viewers at what part of the globe we are talking about. Then time for the charts.
Fabulous effort.
E. Annie Proulx’s The Shipping News keeps coming to mind with each listen.
Thank you. This was informative and easy to understand.
man, that is some crazy footage.
Hi sal, great video as always. The cargo is rated imdg 5.1 so it has to be ammonia nitrate fertilizer. Same as what leveled Beirut and Tianjin.
Other people are saying Urea/DAP but those are not covered under imdg.
Sky News has it at 22k tons of cargo onboard.
Thanks for the info. Do you have a source?
There is a story on Maritime Executive that states: "According to the port authority, the vessel is laden with 22,000 tonnes of fertilizer, and it is a potentially explosive cargo (IMDG Class 5.1)."
It is the "potentially" that raises the question.
The Beirut explosion was something like 2750 tons of ammonia nitrate fertilizer, IIRC? Damage went out as far as 3 km radius...
@@wgowshipping just look up imdg 5.1 examples, ammonium nitrate will be the first thing there. I know this because I tried to fill a tender of the damn stuff for 6 months during Covid and nobody would give cif rates because of imdg 5.1
Well, good thing the hold is flooded so it cannot catch on fire!
@@zilfondel one of them
Thanks Sal, informative as always. 😊😊😊
So informative, thanks very much
If the fertilizer has AN in it, the reaction with water will be interesting at that scale as its violently Endothermic= draws heat from surroundings. You may end up with a ship made into an iceberg.
AN = ammonium nitrate? Methinks you're exaggerating, what will happen is that it will cause algal blooms as it mixes with water... or if successfully towed to safety, then it may eventually explode because of heat, as happened with the nitrates abandoned at Beirut port a couple of years ago.
I'm glad none of the crew were killed. Let's not forget the crew of Galaxy Leader still held in Yemen.
Also the crew of Ruen held in Somalia.
@@wgowshipping Why can't some country go to the port that holds those 2 hijacked ships, and tell them that either they release those ships, or every living thing for 100 miles will be eliminated. Why is everyone so afraid of holding these pirates accountable?
@@BuilderofRatThe Houthis are trying to provoke a reaction. If some country threatened to commit war crimes on such a scale, it would exceed their wildest dreams.
Especially since you'd be attacking areas not under Houthi control.
@@BuilderofRatCause it will start another 20 year conflict that nobody wants. The Houthis are just from another 20 year war with the Saudis. They've have nothing to lose. But your country has.
@@BuilderofRat If US and its allies can't do it then you better forget it and better ask the right question: why no one can stop the genocide in Gaza or let the food and medicine enter the open-air concentration camp?! The ship likely was carrying something other than fertilizer for Zion and they are not telling us the truth. AnsarAllah (Houties) have officially said they were not intending to hit any other ship or close the strait or kill or sink the ships. However after the bombardment by US and UK they started attacking their ships too. They used an actual warhead on this missile to send a message. AnsarAllah is not a group, they are the Yemeni nation and a state and they control the good part of Yemen, the mountainous side; US-backed Saudis being the richest Arab country have been bombing the poorest Arab country for 8 years with US supplied weapons, so they can't bomb or threaten these people into submission.
Thanks for your informend takes overall, it's good to know consumer prices likely aren't coming down. Depressing, but good to know.
Thanks mate, esp info regarding dragged anchor
*THERE IS GOING TO BE* a massive algae bloom in the next few years in the red sea...
As of March 2, she's sunk.
Thanks!
excellent report
The US is in poor state full stop. Not just the navy.
Not according to the stock market it isn’t. You Russian aka Republicans need better material. 😂
we have maybe 2 to 5 or 10 years max.
It is not the USA's responsibility to save the world. The USA already spent way too much lives, money, and time on people that hate us, especially our do little/ nothing so called allies.
Mostly on the internet but not in Real Life. Get out more.
@@goodson77784 Depends on November.
Super video!
Thanks, Dr Sam! I’ve been wondering about that one.
It's Prof. Sal. You might want to edit that.
@@CricketsBay thanks for the heads-up.
If you ask me, this hass been escalated already. Let's go to Yemen and clean house.
Nice explanation. Thank you.
Thanking the Houthis for bringing me to this channel.
props to you dogg! so crazy what you can find on utub!
Thanks. Excellent presentation 😊
It has been known for many years that a near miss with a HE warhead often causes more damage to a ship than a direct hit.
Great analysis!
"may you live in interesting times."
Yes.
Subscribed!
Excellent information!
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Awesome, thank you!
Fascinating !
Very informative,thanks Sal!
Much prep may need to be done before attempting to tow. I have seen soft patches used for large holes, and emergency pumps brought in to get the water out of a ship grounded and the aft aux machinery room flooded.
Very good analysis of this situation.
i really like this guy and how he talks and knowledge about everything 😃
Thank you for this video.
Definitely interesting and well done coverage. I am surprised at lack of current location and it would be worth knowing what the length of the Anchor chain would be for that class ship. Amazed its stayed afloat this long. That seems to indicate that its a well built ship.
It really depends on how much anchor chain was initially dropped before she dragged anchor and came adrift.
More what is the maximum chain length they carry, it would give us some idea. Site of the first hit, depth there and then length of anchor chain. @@wgowshipping
Niche channels like yours is what makes RUclips great.
Thank you!
Thank you sir...
Thanks for a wealth of information!
Liked and subbed! I live near Weapons Station Earl and Raritan Bay, NJ. If a large vessel is hit and sinks in the main channel, it would be a disaster.
great report
Thanks for the clear description of the situation. Information is essential in understanding the consequences of this global threat.
@rickedwards599 It is. However the threat comes from the globalist Israelis, Americans and their pathetic, pet vassal-states.
If the after part breaks off and sinks the first 4 holds could posibly be salvaged. In the mid-70's I saw a situation in which the front 2 thirds of a tanker, the Philippine Leader, was salvaged after the aft section broke off and sank. The ship was in balast and an explosion in the tank just forward of the bridge broke its back. The bow end was taken in tow by a Dutch salvage tug that was in the area (Atlantic/Indian Ocean south of Cape Aghulas)
Thanks, Sal.
Gabriel Bouvier in Norway.
Hi Sal intro you to friend underway this month advising Navy recieved good response Thanks
I enjoy how you explain things so that we stay informed. Because the ship is/was sinking slowly, could someone come in and remove some of the fertilizer, bay 5 first, to keep it afloat?
Yep, I think that you are right about the crew being concerned about the water.
I also think they may have been slightly concerned about the incoming missiles as well
As pictured here, the hull would likely be in a "hogged" stress condition not likely a "sag"ging condition. This because the stern aft section has downward forces and the cargo block has buoyancy forces (pushing up). This can still cause a main deck fracture (across the main deck port to starboard) and then the hull and longitudinal framing will fail - likely to occur fairly quickly.
The cable/anchor possibilities are an interesting add on to the stories about cables being cut. I'm as clueless about truth in this region as I am about port and starboard. I often wonder if my ignorance (and the general public's) isn't occasionally used. Thus this channel and the information you put out is so vital. Thanks!
Hopefully you aren’t ignorant of the reason why this ship is in the state it’s in?
@tubthump no, I watched the video, and he pretty clearly explained the ship was attacked by a Houthi missile. Regarding cables being cut, he added a dimension I had not previously considered -anchors. I had seen two pretty sketchy videos. One suggested that cutting the cables was beyond the technical abilities of the Houthis and thus implied a direct Iran connection. The other took it in a different direction, suggesting a false flag. If an anchor can do it, it would seem technical skill doesn't have to be that high. Hope that clarifies me comment.
@@douglasanderson7301 blaming Yemenis on targeting undersea cables might suit the agenda of western media/governments though could unwittingly attribute more ability to them then they are actually capable of (or had considered carrying out). Sals anchor idea seems most plausible. But my main point was not that the “Houthi” had attacked the ship but rather why they had - which of course is in support of Palestinians. The blockade is rather like a picket line which vessels should not cross while they are being genocided.
@tubthump thank you for your reply and clarification on your views and concerns. As a human I find the back and forth murders in the middle east sad and horrible. Honestly as an American I rarely over the years have more than an occasional thought about the middle east - mostly along the lines of ' why can't "those" people learn how to live with their neighbors?' I earnestly wish my government would have the same attitude. I'm sure you can tell me all the reasons I should care and all the reasons the other side are wrong if not evil. Realistically, the most I think I can hope to accomplish in this life is trying to promote peace with my neighbors and perhaps make my government more interested in trading with all and allied with none. I wish you peace prosperity and purpose and only ask that you find a way to pass that along to others.
@@douglasanderson7301 the best you could do is have your president tell Netanyahu that USA won’t continue to support the ge no cide of Palestinians! Best wishes to you too.