Im surprised you havent gotten way more subs, you are a great youtuber and this video was extremely entertaining. Keep up the good work man, i can tell you have the potential to be a s tier youtuber 😊
@Linc12 Thanks. We always appreciate the nice comments! I’m glad to hear this video was as fun to watch, as it was for us to make! And hopefully? Whatever videos are left to come, gets you plenty of mileage out of this channel subscription.
All I gotta say is get Sukuna's ass down to D! Maaaaaaybe Meruem can be as high as Shigi by saying his rage blast was a casual feat when he wasn't actually angry.
W take, pretty much agree with the whole list, as mine looks like this. Madara >=== Aizen >= Zeref > Sukuna > Blackbeard > Shigaraki > Meruem >= Makima > Muzan > Eren And yes, I would love to see Madara vs Aizen become a video. It's perhaps my favorite matchup in anime versus debating and super complex and close imo. You think my other comments were long? I could write an entire book on Madara vs Aizen. Tl;dr tho, I got Madara winning with _extreme_ difficulty. And I honestly agree with pretty much all of these placements, another epik video indeed!
Glad my general power scaling takes aren’t too far off from what the consensus is then! And? Despite the fact that it would be way too long. Considering I turned Gojo Vs Makima into a 40 min detour. I think it would be a fun- insanely complex, classic matchup to cover. If it gets the responses that I hope it does. Regardless though. Always appreciate the comments, & glad you enjoyed.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY The response would be perhaps the most toxic and controversial thing ever lol. But it would indeed be really cool. There’s a few good matchups on here in all honesty, and I think you could make some interesting stuff. Thanks for the video, this has quickly become one of my favorite channels, so I’m glad that you enjoy my comments! Keep up the great work!
It’s not exactly that she’s weak. I just don’t she can beat anyone above her necessarily. Very Hax, good speed, decent stats. All strong qualities. But? Short of her controlling someone like Mereum or Shiggy? They both just have higher stats IMO. No shade to Makima though. We even have a full 30+ Minute video dedicated to Gojo Vs Makima, if you haven’t seen it yet. She’s undoubtedly underrated by some.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY it doesn’t matter whether they have higher stats lmao cause control doesn’t work that way Control only works on people she views are lesser than her its not a strength thing as she naturally think everyone is beneath her besides her precious Pochita, she’s control people she thinks are impressive too like the Gun Devil & Angel who has an unique ability, also I’ve seen your Gojo VS Makima vid and while I technically don’t agree with it it was a well rounded video 👌
She does have an absolutely massive kit of powerful devils to use. And you’re also correct that Makima controls people based on perception. But? Aside from maybe Shiggy. I don’t see any reason why she’d perceive them as weaker. And, assuming she doesn’t? I don’t think she can take the rest of them 1v1. Just my thoughts though! Glad you thought the video turned out alright.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY also I know you aren’t trying to throw shade at Makima, I just feel like most people don’t know how to scale CSM in general they think that just cause it isn’t a traditional battle shonen where characters are getting ass pull power ups it’s WEAK when in reality it’s on par with Verses like Jujutsu Kaisen or MHA (well depends on which character you’re arguing for anyway lol)
@@TUCKALMIGHTY tbh I think Control will work, She has no reason to view him as something special just because he is strong as it doesn’t really matter if you’re strong than her, considering she has seen plenty of strong foes in the past anyways she’d have to have some respect for you to the point she wouldn’t control you and she doesn’t know Shiggy so she’ll just Control him, also I don’t think Control is Makima’s only win con, she can just use the Mold Devil’s powers and Grow Mold within Shiggy’s body killing him in the process, BFR him with the Hell Devil, Insta kill him with the curse Devil by stabbing him 3 times (if she can catch him anyway given he’s much faster it’s unlikely), or use Biology Manipulation to just kill him
Anyway this is how I see this: Madara >>>> Aizen >>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeref >> Blackbeard > Shigaraki => Makima >> Sukuna >>> Meruem >>>>>>>>>>>> Muzan >>>>>> Eren
This is an interesting take. And? I can kind of see how you came to this conclusion. Especially if you believe Sukuna is low Mach speeds. Although? I might say Mereum is still a little too low. Otherwise? Good list.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY thanks and yeah the thing is I buy FTL JJK but personally I don’t think that will help Sukuna get rid of Makima for good there are too many Japanese citizens for him to get through and I think she just Controls him, BFR’s, turn him into a Zombie Or Drain his life force with Angel’s weapons
@@TUCKALMIGHTY I think Meruem is stronger than Sukuna but he’s way too slow to capitalize on his strength and Sukuna is just Waaaay more versatile but I guess I put Meruem a little too low but I don’t think it will make much of a difference
Honestly? If you buy FTL JJK? and remember that Sukuna can obliterate most of Shibuya in one attack (with only 15 F) You could probably argue he shreds all of Japan in a matter of a few days. Where as (assuming she sees Sukuna like a curse, and not a person) Makima would have to find some magic trick to kill a person, with 1000+ years of experience, regen, and possibly Megumi’s summons too. And I don’t think her AP really keeps up (outside of her Hax weapons) so Sukuna probably just has to dodge some life steal attacks for the most part. Just my opinion though.
Also, I think Mereum’s potential is higher than Sukuna- and his Rage canon is deadly. But yes, his speed & lack of other Hax sell that fight (and most others) for him IMO.
Ohh. It’s mainly due to the fact, that Horikoshi’s health issues- forced him into a situation, of rushing the story- around the time of the PLW Arc. Characters like Deku, who used to have depth- and intrigue. As a self sacrificing, empathetic hero. Were reduced to one note portrayals. With the massive side cast falling to the way side- due to a weird shift in the power progression. (Literally everyone besides Deku becomes useless after vigilante arc) And the saddest part- is the rushed payoffs, the crushed years of buildup. Mirio getting his quirk back off screen, Deku mastering OFA off screen, Bakugo just pulling an Uno reverse card to say All-Might in the final battle, etc… I feel like a lot of what I enjoyed about the first four seasons, in the details/characters- just sort of went away, as the franchise progressed. I still don’t hate MHA though, I just don’t like it that much. (As for why Shigaraki gets a pass, it’s because My Villain Academia is a peak arc in the series- with his backstory being sad & well handled- plus? He just makes for a great antagonist. He is the only example I can think of in anime, where a main villain went from loser- to chad- and didn’t feel forced. So, he gets major props from me.)
Makima >= Muzan Is a fine take I think. Muzan might be faster, and is slightly more immortal. Plus he has better hand to hand abilities IMO with his tentacle things. But otherwise? Makima has better Hax, enough stats to keep up, and way better stamina (since the sun can kill muzan)
Demon Slayer has multiple, multiple demons- who use real actual lightning. With many slayers blocking or blitzing that. And even fodder characters like season 1 start of series Tanjiro, casually dodging faster than sound attacks. As for hand to hand? I didn't necessarily mean in skill (although Makima made Quanxi fear her through power, not skill anyways.) But, Instead. I was mostly referring to all his tentacle arms that are poison tipped, giving him huge range/versatility when not nerfed.
oh okay i understand the scaling now once the story is finished you can wank a character 😂😂😂 no wonder op looked down upon constantly but for real sukuna is not a planetary threat or above BB , zeref being above BB is whatever since he has time magic and zeref should be above aizen and madara since he has instant death magic aizen never thought he was above Yamamoto that was the reason wonderwesis existed lol my list would be zeref>BB>=madara >aizen>who cares after that.😂😂😂
I honestly think this is kind of true. Especially when you really stop to think about it. The most OP broken abilities are always given to the MC & Villain at the end. Because after the one, super specific battle they have to be part of (against each other) their powers/abilities don’t matter. Because story is over. So? Things like Naruto becoming a God. Itadori/Megumi/Yuta potentially surpassing Gojo. And Ichigo mastering all of his powers. All only really work, because story is done- and they don’t have to worry about writing for the OP MC after words. As for scale? BB > Sukuna is fine. I think it’s debatable- since Teach Is featless. Zeref > BB & Sukuna is also good. However Aizen I disagree with. Since specifically prime Aizen (who this video focused on) has the hogyoku and turned into Butterfly Aizen, where he surpassed Old Man Yamma & Squad Zero. This is why Ichigo had to learn Dangai (& lose the power afterwards) to beat him. So Butterfly Aizen > Yama > Base Aizen. And? Madara is a SoSP level character. With Juubi + 3 Rinnegan + Hashirama Level Chakra + Hax, he should at least be similar to Zeref IMO. So my personal final list? Would be like- Aizen >= Madara >= Zeref > BB >= Sukuna >>> Everyone else. If they’re in the same tier though? Honestly I think the fight could go mostly either way. So? Take it for what you will.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY aizen isn't above zero squad at that point maybe when fighting ywach but he was getting folded by ywach so he's not really in the same tier as him idk how aizen will deal with limbo clones attacking from another plane existence , being put into a genjutsu or a reality warp to bring himself back at the cost of his eye, aizen lacks the power to me and only has suigetsu he no long has the wish orb since it rejected at the end of his fight with ichigo and according to ywach in the anime aizen is killable just would be troublesome. zeref on the otherhand is definitely above those two due to timestop and instant death magic , there's no way around it zeref just stops time as soon as the fight starts and GG instant death you unless you can restart your heart you are dead immediately.
@@halojeff15 Both Madara and Aizen don’t require their heart to survive, hell, both have had their heart obliterated on panel and laughed it off. And honestly, Time Stop shouldn’t stop Limbo as it exists in a different dimension with a different flow of time. Madara, Aizen, and Zeref are close for sure, and they’re definitely significantly above everyone else here.
Im surprised you havent gotten way more subs, you are a great youtuber and this video was extremely entertaining. Keep up the good work man, i can tell you have the potential to be a s tier youtuber 😊
@Linc12 Thanks. We always appreciate the nice comments!
I’m glad to hear this video was as fun to watch, as it was for us to make!
And hopefully? Whatever videos are left to come, gets you plenty of mileage out of this channel subscription.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Well im here at the start of your journey to S tier
@@TUCKALMIGHTY immma need you to update the sukuna list lol
Makima scales way higher than base Denji, she beat him without hax I'm pretty sure this take is incredibly wild, Makima>Sukuna
I meant purely in physical stats. Since I’m their rematch Denji did much better.
Also, yes. Makima
If we are talking Physically Sukuna >>>> Makima, but if we include Bang into the mix then it’s dead even with Makima getting a big higher
already knew aizen was ranking at the top thats kingie fr
All I gotta say is get Sukuna's ass down to D!
Maaaaaaybe Meruem can be as high as Shigi by saying his rage blast was a casual feat when he wasn't actually angry.
Nah how’d I know bro would say that 😭
nah, Heian Sukuna stomps most of the list
@@shore2075 (He stomps Eren that's for sure 💀)
*laughs in existence deleting slash*
@@michaelespinoza2150 stat wise bruh fodder. JJK is known for being the hax equivalent of a glass cannon.
W take, pretty much agree with the whole list, as mine looks like this.
Madara >=== Aizen >= Zeref > Sukuna > Blackbeard > Shigaraki > Meruem >= Makima > Muzan > Eren
And yes, I would love to see Madara vs Aizen become a video. It's perhaps my favorite matchup in anime versus debating and super complex and close imo. You think my other comments were long? I could write an entire book on Madara vs Aizen. Tl;dr tho, I got Madara winning with _extreme_ difficulty.
And I honestly agree with pretty much all of these placements, another epik video indeed!
Glad my general power scaling takes aren’t too far off from what the consensus is then!
And? Despite the fact that it would be way too long. Considering I turned Gojo Vs Makima into a 40 min detour.
I think it would be a fun- insanely complex, classic matchup to cover. If it gets the responses that I hope it does.
Regardless though. Always appreciate the comments, & glad you enjoyed.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY The response would be perhaps the most toxic and controversial thing ever lol. But it would indeed be really cool.
There’s a few good matchups on here in all honesty, and I think you could make some interesting stuff.
Thanks for the video, this has quickly become one of my favorite channels, so I’m glad that you enjoy my comments! Keep up the great work!
nah it’s aizen >>>zeref>madara>>blackbeard>>sukuna=shigaraki=merum>>makima>>>muzan=eren
@@archflamingo9156 Madara vs Aizen is debatable to me, but I can see where your coming from. I just believe that Madara holds a slight advantage.
@@limbo9993aizen anihilates madara biggest debate here will be madara vs BB when it's all said and done.
7:52 mereun?
It’s Mereum lol. His arm is just in front of the M. It might look weird on lower res.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY ok 👌
Sukuna over all. Only that guy from medaka box can defeat him
Sukuna is strong, really strong. Especially with Megumi’s ten shadows.
But he’s not hanging with the S-Tier yet.
I don’t think you did justice to Makima but eh whatever
It’s not exactly that she’s weak.
I just don’t she can beat anyone above her necessarily. Very Hax, good speed, decent stats. All strong qualities.
But? Short of her controlling someone like Mereum or Shiggy? They both just have higher stats IMO.
No shade to Makima though. We even have a full 30+ Minute video dedicated to Gojo Vs Makima, if you haven’t seen it yet. She’s undoubtedly underrated by some.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY it doesn’t matter whether they have higher stats lmao cause control doesn’t work that way Control only works on people she views are lesser than her its not a strength thing as she naturally think everyone is beneath her besides her precious Pochita, she’s control people she thinks are impressive too like the Gun Devil & Angel who has an unique ability, also I’ve seen your Gojo VS Makima vid and while I technically don’t agree with it it was a well rounded video 👌
She does have an absolutely massive kit of powerful devils to use. And you’re also correct that Makima controls people based on perception.
But? Aside from maybe Shiggy. I don’t see any reason why she’d perceive them as weaker.
And, assuming she doesn’t? I don’t think she can take the rest of them 1v1.
Just my thoughts though! Glad you thought the video turned out alright.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY also I know you aren’t trying to throw shade at Makima, I just feel like most people don’t know how to scale CSM in general they think that just cause it isn’t a traditional battle shonen where characters are getting ass pull power ups it’s WEAK when in reality it’s on par with Verses like Jujutsu Kaisen or MHA (well depends on which character you’re arguing for anyway lol)
@@TUCKALMIGHTY tbh I think Control will work, She has no reason to view him as something special just because he is strong as it doesn’t really matter if you’re strong than her, considering she has seen plenty of strong foes in the past anyways she’d have to have some respect for you to the point she wouldn’t control you and she doesn’t know Shiggy so she’ll just Control him, also I don’t think Control is Makima’s only win con, she can just use the Mold Devil’s powers and Grow Mold within Shiggy’s body killing him in the process, BFR him with the Hell Devil, Insta kill him with the curse Devil by stabbing him 3 times (if she can catch him anyway given he’s much faster it’s unlikely), or use Biology Manipulation to just kill him
Anyway this is how I see this:
Madara >>>> Aizen >>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeref >> Blackbeard > Shigaraki => Makima >> Sukuna >>> Meruem >>>>>>>>>>>> Muzan >>>>>> Eren
This is an interesting take.
And? I can kind of see how you came to this conclusion. Especially if you believe Sukuna is low Mach speeds.
Although? I might say Mereum is still a little too low.
Otherwise? Good list.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY thanks and yeah the thing is I buy FTL JJK but personally I don’t think that will help Sukuna get rid of Makima for good there are too many Japanese citizens for him to get through and I think she just Controls him, BFR’s, turn him into a Zombie Or Drain his life force with Angel’s weapons
@@TUCKALMIGHTY I think Meruem is stronger than Sukuna but he’s way too slow to capitalize on his strength and Sukuna is just Waaaay more versatile but I guess I put Meruem a little too low but I don’t think it will make much of a difference
Honestly? If you buy FTL JJK? and remember that Sukuna can obliterate most of Shibuya in one attack (with only 15 F)
You could probably argue he shreds all of Japan in a matter of a few days.
Where as (assuming she sees Sukuna like a curse, and not a person) Makima would have to find some magic trick to kill a person, with 1000+ years of experience, regen, and possibly Megumi’s summons too.
And I don’t think her AP really keeps up (outside of her Hax weapons) so Sukuna probably just has to dodge some life steal attacks for the most part.
Just my opinion though.
Also, I think Mereum’s potential is higher than Sukuna- and his Rage canon is deadly.
But yes, his speed & lack of other Hax sell that fight (and most others) for him IMO.
Part 2🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Ignoring Shigaraki, why do you hate MHA?
Ignoring him? Wdym? He’s in the video, he has a whole dedicated section.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY no I meant without counting Shigaraki, why do you hate MHA?
Ohh.
It’s mainly due to the fact, that Horikoshi’s health issues- forced him into a situation, of rushing the story- around the time of the PLW Arc.
Characters like Deku, who used to have depth- and intrigue. As a self sacrificing, empathetic hero. Were reduced to one note portrayals.
With the massive side cast falling to the way side- due to a weird shift in the power progression. (Literally everyone besides Deku becomes useless after vigilante arc)
And the saddest part- is the rushed payoffs, the crushed years of buildup. Mirio getting his quirk back off screen, Deku mastering OFA off screen, Bakugo just pulling an Uno reverse card to say All-Might in the final battle, etc…
I feel like a lot of what I enjoyed about the first four seasons, in the details/characters- just sort of went away, as the franchise progressed.
I still don’t hate MHA though, I just don’t like it that much.
(As for why Shigaraki gets a pass, it’s because My Villain Academia is a peak arc in the series- with his backstory being sad & well handled- plus? He just makes for a great antagonist. He is the only example I can think of in anime, where a main villain went from loser- to chad- and didn’t feel forced. So, he gets major props from me.)
@@TUCKALMIGHTY fair enough. heres to hoping Anime fixes those issues.
Thank god bro left Dragon Ball Villains out lol, too many too count
also Makima>Muzan
Makima >= Muzan Is a fine take I think.
Muzan might be faster, and is slightly more immortal. Plus he has better hand to hand abilities IMO with his tentacle things.
But otherwise? Makima has better Hax, enough stats to keep up, and way better stamina (since the sun can kill muzan)
I don’t think Muzan is faster personally I don’t think the Lightning speed feats in Demon Slayer are legit
And him being better at hand to hand is uhhh debatable as Makima made Quanxi one of the greatest Martial Artists in CSM Fear her
Demon Slayer has multiple, multiple demons- who use real actual lightning. With many slayers blocking or blitzing that.
And even fodder characters like season 1 start of series Tanjiro, casually dodging faster than sound attacks.
As for hand to hand? I didn't necessarily mean in skill (although Makima made Quanxi fear her through power, not skill anyways.) But, Instead. I was mostly referring to all his tentacle arms that are poison tipped, giving him huge range/versatility when not nerfed.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY still not feeling the Lightning arguments but I can see why you buy it
oh okay i understand the scaling now once the story is finished you can wank a character 😂😂😂 no wonder op looked down upon constantly
but for real sukuna is not a planetary threat or above BB , zeref being above BB is whatever since he has time magic and zeref should be above aizen and madara since he has instant death magic
aizen never thought he was above Yamamoto that was the reason wonderwesis existed lol
my list would be zeref>BB>=madara >aizen>who cares after that.😂😂😂
I honestly think this is kind of true. Especially when you really stop to think about it.
The most OP broken abilities are always given to the MC & Villain at the end. Because after the one, super specific battle they have to be part of (against each other) their powers/abilities don’t matter. Because story is over.
So? Things like Naruto becoming a God. Itadori/Megumi/Yuta potentially surpassing Gojo. And Ichigo mastering all of his powers.
All only really work, because story is done- and they don’t have to worry about writing for the OP MC after words.
As for scale? BB > Sukuna is fine. I think it’s debatable- since Teach Is featless.
Zeref > BB & Sukuna is also good.
However Aizen I disagree with. Since specifically prime Aizen (who this video focused on) has the hogyoku and turned into Butterfly Aizen, where he surpassed Old Man Yamma & Squad Zero. This is why Ichigo had to learn Dangai (& lose the power afterwards) to beat him.
So Butterfly Aizen > Yama > Base Aizen.
And? Madara is a SoSP level character.
With Juubi + 3 Rinnegan + Hashirama Level Chakra + Hax, he should at least be similar to Zeref IMO.
So my personal final list? Would be like-
Aizen >= Madara >= Zeref > BB >= Sukuna >>> Everyone else.
If they’re in the same tier though? Honestly I think the fight could go mostly either way. So? Take it for what you will.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY
aizen isn't above zero squad at that point maybe when fighting ywach but he was getting folded by ywach so he's not really in the same tier as him
idk how aizen will deal with limbo clones attacking from another plane existence , being put into a genjutsu or a reality warp to bring himself back at the cost of his eye, aizen lacks the power to me and only has suigetsu he no long has the wish orb since it rejected at the end of his fight with ichigo and according to ywach in the anime aizen is killable just would be troublesome.
zeref on the otherhand is definitely above those two due to timestop and instant death magic , there's no way around it zeref just stops time as soon as the fight starts and GG instant death you unless you can restart your heart you are dead immediately.
@@halojeff15 Both Madara and Aizen don’t require their heart to survive, hell, both have had their heart obliterated on panel and laughed it off.
And honestly, Time Stop shouldn’t stop Limbo as it exists in a different dimension with a different flow of time.
Madara, Aizen, and Zeref are close for sure, and they’re definitely significantly above everyone else here.