The Jordan Poole Problem!
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2023
- Remember when James Harden got traded to the Houston Rockets from OKC after having a successful 6th Man of the Year campaign. Remember how no one expected the leap he would take as a superstar in the NBA and would shock the world with how talented he was when he was the leader on his own team.And year after year he became one of the best players we have ever seen in his prime.That is who Jordan Poole thinks he is but he is most definitely not even close to taking that leap.Jordan Poole has been a player that I have seen people talk about a lot recently but is all for the wrong reasons and we have to address the issues here.
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The comparison never made sense to me because James harden was a top 3 pick, him becoming a superstar was not a surprise necessarily. Jordan was the 28th pick, not even a similar comparison
Yup, and people seem to forget, Harden way before the OKC rise, went toe to toe on offense against Kobe in a amateur game, that's when he got famous and thought "might be the next guy after D-wade", when Kobe can't shut you up (he might not try the hardest but common, we know Kobe, he won't let someone score easy either, to score many on Kobe you are at least a top dog), well that says things.
even without considering this, in terms of statistical efficiency, they were not even close.
It makes sense when you think about the nba landscape. The loudest fans are the youngest/dumbest. Content creators and the media will appeal to these people to drive views. Kids love Poole and they’ve never seen okc or even prime harden. “It was only a few years ago” yeah and those kids were in elementary school.
Pick aside, Harden dominated off the bench. Poole was just a good player with some highlights
Poole got the ring and bag, and it went to his head. Then he goes to a team where he's in control, so even more ego boost. Plus, it's a losing team full of immature players like Kuzma. So it's like a classroom with a substitute teacher. Poole's main issue in a word... Immaturity. #StephCurryIsTheGOAT
Everyone had huge expectations. Poole thought he was already there. People were talking of his potential, he still needed to be humble and put in his work. That ring is probably more of a curse. Just cause you rode on the Curry bus doesn't mean you can drive it. He really needed to have more time under an OG that could guide and build him. He's a baby still. I hope he figures it out.
He didn’t just ride curry’s coat tails homie. Klay was inconsistent asf. They won cause of him and Wiggins without them they don’t even make the playoffs
This is part of the problem I had with him I’d watch his games and wondered where people got that he’s the next steph curry. Every time I watched him he looked soo sloppy and a hot and cold scorer with even curry on the floor with him. I saw him as just a good scorer and that’s it he doesn’t have a great handle he has some range but doesn’t knock down like curry does and he barely moves good off ball like curry idk where those comparisons came from besides him shooting decent.
@@adamdrach3894he helped but after that he’s never been the same he showed it all year last year and even more now this year
@@adamdrach3894if hes the reason for the ring why is he so ass now, who won finals mvp, exactly. bro carried I think like one game relax
@@Taylor-vj6ei I didnt only say him. If you’re gonna try to debate or argue at least don’t ignore the full context of what’s been said. Goofy ass kids like you need to just stay away from sports you can’t fully comprehend without espn
New Sub, I am a die hard Dubs fan when you said, "We Suck Right Now, But That's not the point". I knew I had found my people 😂😂!💯💯
Dubnation stand tf up
I'm a big Wiggins believer. Klay makes me nervous right now since he should be catching his hot streak by now but isn't. I'm still hoping for a Draymond trade since 2017. Dude is cancer.
@@fobinc OMG yes, I had my breaking point when he got the 2nd tech in the game against the Cavs. Had he not been being Draymond by yelling at the ref and got the first tech, that 2nd would not have gotten him ejected, causing us to lose that game. When I saw him fly and latch on to Rudy, then started pulling him, I stood up and turned my TV off, said I'm done with him and went to bed. Klay needs to figure out how to block out the noise, except the pay cut and maybe even be willing to play a lesser role. We have to accept that the league is full of athletic youngsters and if we are going to compete seriously, Kuminga Moody and Davis need consistent playing minutes.💯💯
This was unfortunately uploaded a day late, I am aware of the recent games that happened last night.
Ever since he got that punch man's ain't never been the same
Ayooooooo🤣
Warriors fans need to stop pleasuring themselves by beating up on Poole. Poole has his problems, lack of maturity and focus to name a few but GSW is missing his abilty to score. At this moment there's not a player on GSW's team other than Curry averaging more than Poole is now with all his bad play. Furthermore if you dont blame Green for having a part in the breakup of Poole and GSW youre only spewing hate. Steve Kerr, and Curry didnt do enough to discipline Green after the punch which is why he's still acting up today. Poole has moved on and doesn't talk about the Warriors maybe it's time the Warrior fans do the same about him.
1. He's trying too hard to prove his haters wrong that he's proving them right.
2. He has been knwon to ahve good work ethic and that earned him more playing minutes with the warriors. He needs to remember that feeling of being at the bottom
3. The money got to his head.
4. He took Steph and the warrior's system for granted.
5. He has brain damage from Draymond's punch
“The league was surprised at how talented he was”?!?!?!
More like how much he was allowed to get away with.
Carry, travel, off-arms, push offs, and flops. Let alone matador/turnstile defense. This dude was never great.
He is a Warriors fan, definitely going to exaggerate.
Never was a team player, never will be a team player
Just found your channel, love the video bro
Thanks man. Feel free to check out the channel I got more videos you'll might like.
That Draymond punch is crazy
Ayooooooo🤣
I'm a die hard Dubs fan as well. I wouldn't say we "suck," per se. But we're definitely not gelling like we were in the first 6 games. We need to find that chemistry and get back to playing Warrior's basketball. Either way, Poole definitely has the talent and the skill. But he's lost his work ethic that got him there. He's openly admitted that he and his family are set for life and now he can play "no pressure" basketball. He's not trying anymore. He's just going to enjoy the ride and coast until he either doesn't want to play, or can't play. So, unfortunately, I doubt he'll ever live up to the potential he actually has. He wants to be "Him." But he's not. Nowhere close.
He’s about to be the new Gil.
Wait what you mean
No employer wants their player held up to contempt, derision and ridicule because it reflects on the team.
Exactly
Important note on why this trade happened. Every warriors fan from last year knew that the only thing keeping us in contention was the wins during home games. The fact that the bench couldn’t play defense and there was such a lopsided win record on the road meant I was totally fine with the CP3 trade.
It was either jp or Draymond for golden state 😂. We are always talking about poole and how he's underperforming but never talk about how drayman's does nothing for the warriors.
The management that crazy Warriors team together are gone. 😅
Bro got the bag and instantly lost all his hardwork and humility. Well he himself said it best his legacy is secured with a ring and now he's playing like he's a goat on a retirement tour
Jordan Fool’s BIG EGO gets in the way of his “success”.
Why
Ima be real with y’all; if my teammate knocked me out, that shit went public, the team DIDN’T punish him whatsoever and the higher ups tried to make me sweep it all under the rug while that player also wasn’t willing to make proper amends, I’m mailing the entire season in too and doing whatever the hell I want, I don’t care how much you’re paying me.
Don’t blame Jordan for his last season in GS at all, the Warriors culture is super suspect to me and no one wants to talk about it lol
Him in Washington is just comedy though 😂
Thank you, someone finally says the truth. Poole on Washington is just a player who is not trying to see the silver lining of his trade because he was damn near promised the keys to the kingdom in GS.
Ego big and he's got his bag and he has more pressure on him and he decided to not go to the next level
MJ "when you get something so easily, you not gonna work as hard"
He’s the new JAVAAAAAAAAAAALE MCGEEEEEEEEE
It's because the baddies no longer show up to his games no showin’ out means less baddies, it's like a vicious cycle
the problem here is that he curry makes player around him looks great, if not for curry do you think klay and dray would be considered hof’r? would igoudala be seen as viable finals mvp? would wiggins bloom to a premier 3&D player? would looney be on the map? curry’s gravity on the court allows his team mates to move more freely on the court thus maximising their potentials
I still think that Poole's talent is still there and has been proven that when he is centered and humble the guy can shine. I believe at this moment life is giving him a lesson for forgetting how he got there. This is a pivotal moment to make or break it forever. Maturity vs stupidity.
Harden became the guy in Houston when he dropped 37 and 12 on night one.
What the Wizards need to do most now is...minimize his playing time in order to save the team.
Why you say that
I wouldn't say minimize his time, but demote him to being a 3rd scoring option. He's quite combo guard. He starts along side Ty Jones, so he can focus on scoring. When Jones is out, he can facilitate the offense. But he's trying too hard on offense, forcing shots instead of opening up shots to Washington plethora of shooters.
Jordan poole helped the warriors win that last championship he was playing like a all star stop hating on him
I always hear these claims made, like "everybody thought the Warriors made a mistake trading a young scorer" and like... I don't know that that's backed up by reality. Literally everybody I heard from thought Poole was paid too much, that his contract was fucking crazy and that the Warriors were lucky to be able to move him so soon after he signed it. And that the Wizards made so much sense for him, because now he can be a scorer for them without having to worry about whether or not he's actually good; he can score and whether or not his scoring is actually impactful towards winning, whether or not he does anything other than that, doesn't matter because the Wizards are always terrible and never competitive, so who cares?
My man everybody wanted him traded. Not just you!
Imagine a team with Poole, Harden, Zion, Dwight and Ja
With melo before he was humbled & AI too
Wasted talent and even more wasted money
All at their best. They win a title
A team that no one would see on the floor long as a full unit 😂😂😂 could never imagine a team with them lmao
@@ciscoflores5512 choke a title
A 3rd option? a young outside the warriors he a role man 😂😂
(He’s not that guy, man) FACTS 😂
JP is a unique case in which, he can actually ball but he has appalling decision making problems.
He had his 5 mins of fame in GS because Steph and Klay but its apparent by Kerr's demeanor that Poole grew overconfident and started running his own plays and thus, took bad shot after bad shot and after the Dray thing, the rest of the crew distanced themselves from JP.
Now he is playing without thr court spacing that made him relevant and it shows
You know he just dont wanna go to there he heart still at warrior and he wanna play with them n without stressing and issue like draymon but you know if you could make up with dray its all gonna be ok and take less money and a little considering about taking a shot that what he need coz confidence ardy there but decision making and without veterans like warriors before make him doing like that coz he listening he watching what people say he could be star there lead the team own the team could be nghtmare to anyone so he tried it without thinking come on poole even you are wizard now you olso make us ur fan before n still got some hope in you to get back to your old self you have the skill force to have that talent but don't waste it
Bro is currently -202 on plus minus 😵💀
The truth , being honest = sounding like a hater smh we are doomed
I wanna see a Poole and LaMelo team up just for the culture and horrendous fan base it would create.
When Steph Curry realizes he's not hot, he stops shooting 3s and starts attacking the basket.
Jordan Poole needs to humble himself
everything you said is on point... china is waving... 👋🤣
Ayoooooo🤣
This site is always focusing on poole never hear much positive things about him, I have to move away from all of this negative comments
What is new? It is not like it did not happen before.. some player named jordan move from a great team, with a great teammates and coach that can win 70+ games in a season, to washington wizards then immediately get exposed that he cannot carry a team on his own. 😂😂😂
I liked to call him JR smith 2.0
JP3 can't guard a traffic cone. He and Kuzma are dumb and dumber...
Jordan Alr got a better career than 99.9% of nba players it’s a win to me 🤷🏾♂️
😂😂😂who compared him to harden needs to be fired 😂😂 harden was just different right away he showed he was different
So glad this kid got snuffed on camera 😂
How tf does he even score his shot is effed up he releases it from his chin wtf 😂
Poole, the person, who knows, i don't know him. But, Poole's game, man, I hate it. I am not gonna lie. I hated it when he was on GS. I liked some of his playoff play during our championship year, but that might be the Jordan Poole career high watermark. What Poole has become, I blame on Bob Myers. He didn't have to pay him. Just let him play another year, and match if you need to. But, that poisoned and killed the following year. Yeah, Draymond Super man punched him -- which Poole needed more of. But, it didn't knock sense into him. Somehow, he got worse! Anyway, as a diehard GS fan, I am glad he's gone. We'll figure it out, and be better. Curry missed some games as did Draymond, which are probably our two best players. That said, Klay and Wiggins need to be better on a day-in and day-out manner.
If Poole played for Memphis grizzlies I think he would do better
Notice how the Warriors suck now that Poole is gone? Poole may not be "him" yet, but Poole haters keep under rating his contribution. What happened to Poole was horrible, and maybe that's affecting him, but all the ego talk is from fans, not players.
The NBA has too many toxic fans. Y'all cheer when players get hurt. All that self-righteous outrage over Ja Morant showing off, and none for Draymond punching people, stomping on people, and choking them out. NBA fans are horrible.
Also, Draymond without Curry, would be doing way worse than Poole. He'd be out of the league in a season. If not sooner for the bad behavior.
you might be asking how i commented on this video already
Wizards don't build well, and they don't rebuild well, losing all those years yet they don't have good young players, other than Kuzma, CP3 is like the only valuable price they can offer on the table, and they got Poole for that, this might not be the worst thign a team can do, but not far off.
Listen the Warriors should have never traded Jordan pool the Warriors should trade Jonathan kaminga, he hasn't developed Moses Moody is better than Jonathan the thing is Jonathan kamanga is more athletic so everybody like his entertaining qualities he has the ability to be explosive but he is not better. Moses Moody is more fundamentally sound another thing Robert Williams is so injury-prone he would be the perfect player for Golden State, the Warriors need an elite rim protector like him but he is so damn injury-prone.
Common, warriors turned all time Shaqtin a fool all star Javale Mcgee into a pretty decent player. Why do all these players get a huge head when they are in golden state and get great looks and opportunities because of their big 3 taken the pressure off them.
I think most Warriors fans were happy to get rid of Poole.
Why you say that
I don't know if he's elite or just mid
Jordan poole got easy buckets cuz well theres an offense the kings used to run with rick adelman. Where chris webber would pass from the top of the key and had screens running everywhere and shooters to fill the spot. Similar to golden state. poole benefited off of people having to double team either klay or steph. While draymond would pass from the top of the key. Now he aint got shit and is the #1 option now hes exposed because defense is focused on him the entire time. And its obvious the dude cant create a shot for his own. Where as harden his offense was clear in okc that he could easily create his own shot. Harden is vastly different then poole. Poole is like basically the next nick young in wizards scores 16-17 a game because hes basically the only one who can shoot.
I'm not sure how it works in the NBA but to me It was kind of lame that he was traded immediately after that playoff.
I mean, he was a great contributor to them winning and then he didn't play so well but why not offer him a chance for redemption?
Or do teams don't have time to work on their players?
I think there are a few reasons why Poole got shipped as soon as possible.
1. The situation didn't look promising. I am sure Warriors would like to keep Poole if possible. But, they must have saw no hope in this situation.
2. Warriors can't afford to wait. The core is definitely getting old, and everything can collapse at any time.
3. Luxury tax and second apron. If they kept Poole, they were in yet another year of massive luxury tax. And with the new CBA, numerous penalties for 2nd apron made the retooling nearly impossible. Then, Wizard came in and offered to take Poole for Paul and his expiring contract only (they did trade 2030 first rounder, but that's top 25 protected). It's a deal that Warriors couldn't pass up, and they are now on schedule to reset the 2nd apron at least. If they don't resign/sign a small contract to Klay, they can get out of the luxury tax all together.
Lmfao we do suck rn
Wizards shouldn’t trade Poole instead get some wise vets fire the coach because it’s clear when he talks nobody respects or listens and hire a guy like mike d'antoni or Nate McMillan and start building a culture around jp where he can become a bette r player
SKIP, no basketball IQ= no credibility
He thinks Chris Paul and Jordan play the same position.
Poole is like Monta Ellis, but with a basketball IQ of a toddler.
You make this video now. ..I said when he was traded..... you and everyone else all thought he was gonna average 26ppg... you know better
Being compared to Harden is not a compliment. 🤷🏿♂️just saying.
Should have kept Jordan and got rid of Green. Green is toxic and a dirty player. Warriors losing is karma.
I think Poole is suffering from Got The Bag syndrome. He is not the only player to do this. Jaylen Brown, Andrew Wiggins, Ja Morant I can keep going.
He is James Harden, but it's the Harden who left Houston.
Literally he doesn’t want to be there that’s why he is playing like poop
Yeah no defense
“I am a warriors fan”
Me:Annnnnnnnd dislike
Curry wanna be who has no identity. He needs to stop.
"glass houses" huh. idc how bad jordan poole plays or how self-centered he is/was. draymond green is still in the wrong and is still more of a nothing without steph curry than even poole is. green either gives up or flat out gets himself suspended when he know he not gon be playin w/steph lmfao. w/o steph, green woulda been pushed all the way out the league for his antics before his 5th year, nevermind that he wouldnt develope to the player he was a few years ago. dubs fans ride too hard for that man-child.
The Warriors are seemingly forgetting how to win. They just let KD go and Poole was being treated like shit by Draymond and nobody stood up for him. Hope Dray's no offense helps you score more points. The front office is becoming a joke. Everybody seems to think the big trio is enough, it's not. They better start holding onto some important pieces.
Harden imo is one of the most overrated players out there. Probably gets in hall of fame for scoring but teams cannot win championships with his defense. Just like carmelo
Can't blame the Warriors for paying Jordan Poole at the time
I think any GM at the time would have paid Poole. I think we all expected Poole to take it to the next level.
GSW could have had 2 more chips if Draymond hadn’t dissed KD. Draymond is a drag on this team. It’s just everyone is scared of him. Keep in mind his former partner accused him of domestic abuse. Given Green’s violent temper this accusation probably ain’t too far from the truth.
H8tr
bro i swear Jordan is already give up ahaha even street he will destroy badly ahaha
such a hater
Wayyy overrated!
Warriors have been horrible without Poole and lack scoring outside of Steph… This video is pure copium
you’re overreacting. draymond has been suspended for 6 games. curry has been injured for a couple of games. klay and wiggs are starting to shoot better. it’s a bad start, but it’s still too early. the warriors are still 8-9 and just 3 losses below the 4th seed
Let's see, after 10 more games
Lmao, YOU are the definition of copium my guy
Bruh you high 😂 watch basketball then talk
And how are the wizards doing?? 🤣🤣
You’re wrong about harden. He got that contract cause of what he did on okc. He was Houston’s number option as soon as he agreed to the contract and he scored more than 15 ppg off the line stop it.