Abhinav : Now, we are going to remove the engine and gearbox from the bike, and the weight that comes off is 35-40 kilos, now the bike weights 100kgs, now the bike is completely modified and will have much better performance....
No no, we keep the engine. And as you can see the chain set is connected to the rear wheel and front wheel is free so, we are going to remove the front wheel and we will just wheelie from here onwards.
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Inspiring. Was worried about 195 kg wet weigh 17 L tank, but now, seems it can be dropped down to 175 to 180 with 12 to 13 L petrol, which would be AMAZING. Thanks for taking the initiative.
Nice video Abhinav. Even 20 years ago, round about 7-10 kilos is all we could shed from our 500s removing all the tin work. 196 kilos - 10.7 (round off to 11) is still 185 kilo bike. Not 170. Unless you plan to run it without fuel.
I'm talking dry weight here. Won't run on trails with 17 litres in the tank. Maybe 5-7. So, to keep it simple, just focused on dry weight. Of course ready to ride it will be heavier.
Wet doesn’t mean only Fuel.. engine oil 2 litres and coolant 1 litres will itself weights more than 3 kilos and fuel of 5 Litres is another 3 kgs at least. soo please don’t miss lead the viewers. PS: you can’t run a vehicle dry. Soo for practical purpose please mention wet weight. Talking about dry weight is like talking about Ex show room price. Practically you can’t own vehicle at Ex show room price and can’t run vehicle with dry weight. Now peace
@@mallelli99 how is anyone being misled when the first thing I say in the video is that the bike is 181 kg dry. Wet weight will always vary since I don't intend to ride this with a full tank of fuel. So, the constant figure here is the dry weight. Anyone smart enough can add the fuel, engine oil and coolant weight to it.
@@mallelli99 Practically speaking, if the bike were to be taken to a trail with only 7 litres of fuel, that means you are carrying 10 litres less than maximum. 10 litres of fuel equal 7.5 to 8 kg. That is the weight saving with fuel alone that can be realistically achieved as per Abhinav's plan. You can calculate total weight with zero fuel easily too. As I understand, dry weight is fixed according to the components on the bike. Wet weight varies as fuel is consumed. While we would all prefer to see the reduction in maximum (wet) weight, Abhinav seems to be focusing on the constant weight which is dry weight.
This video will definitely be popular among the international audience who are extremely obsessed with the heavy weight of the himalayan 450. After this they will copy the same and do many more customized modification.
I had planned to do pretty much this, maybe not the mirrors. I travel very lean and my total luggage is around 12 kgs out of which the tubes znd tools to change them is around 3-4 kgs. This is for my xpulse. So once i get the Him 452 withthe tubeless spoke rims, lot of weight from my luggage will go. And i carry just 1 tail bag so the rear rack also is of no use to me.
Hey, it’s good to see you guys working on making this machine more better than it’s present day. I would love to see the journey and the final outcome when this bike is done. Also if you can share more info on this team. It will be helpful
Hello Abhinav, Is the sari guard required for the motorcycle to be on the road, or does it just have to be on at the time of sale? I think the bike looks good without the front tank guards. I will be getting my bike in March, or April, and will remove them if I don't find them necessary for carrying small bags. Have you seen the swivel pegs? they are about the same size as the pegs that you installed, but they have a mechanism that allows the pegs to swivel forward, and back 40 degrees from full rotation to full rotation. They spring back to center if you remove your foot, but they move with your ankle as you stand, sit, shift, or use the rear brake. They are probably heavier than non swiveling pegs but they come in 2 sizes. Obviously the smaller ones (still larger than the stock pegs) will be lighter than the large. My use case will be 90% on road, so I am not too interested in removing weight, but a few of your mods make the bike look better. Thanks for the video.
Bro Awesome video... I always watch ur video... A very good Informative one... Can You Please Tell Me from Where you have purchased this rally seat???? I want to buy this..
Some more ideas, in case they were not considered: - replace the plastic fork protection by soft one made of neoprene - replace the wet battery by a Lithium one - check for a light weight chain/sproket kit You still have the chain guide installed, which might not be mandatory but I would bring back the chain guard for safety reason. And BTW "kg" sounds a bit strange for a European. "kilogram" is much more known 😉
So much fun experiencing your posts from here in New Hampshire ~ USA ~. Not gonna lie. I bought a pack of cigarettes at the local package store here. Two Young Indians here on visa. I just said "Royal Enfield" and out came their wallets with pictures of (smaller) "Royal Enfield" motorcycles. We talked for some time and I did buy the cigarettes 🤮. Anyway, I told them about have purchased a Himalayan 411 (2021 with 3000m) like new. I then got the deposit back when finding the gear ratio was low and not so good on the road @ 65 mph. And so "Keep the Faith" with the Royal Enfield solidarity. All good. Thank you! The 450 is the bike for me. Thanks. 〰✨🌿🦋🌳🌿👍🌿🌳🦋🌿✨〰
Nice video Abhinav, the new Himalayan has a huge potential to be close to the perfect ADV tourier in our country. But the only major issue that I felt when test-riding the vehicle was the weight of the motorcycle. It was a little too much for me, but some may not think of it the same way. I loved the idea of stripping it down to make it weigh less than the stock motorcycle, and the best part out of the whole lot was the saree guard. I don't see the necessity of it being a standard in our country as hardly women drape sarees these days and travel along as a pillion wearing it.
We need a new exhaust system as quickly as possible, I am dying to know how much that gigantic catalytic converter / collection chamber weighs on the bottom of the bike. Also, is the Rally Seat comfortable? It looks awesome!
Cool video. I was going to tell not to remove stock toolkit. We never know when some tools fail and its better to have backup. And I was glad that you decided to keep it. Haha.
If ur going for an complete off road built then it doesn't need the headlights indicators speedometer/dash board all the extra wiring as well can come off with just the start button make it like a dirt bike
Hello bro very happy new you to you n entire family , you tube family , i rode this bike on launch at Saket Showroom it's a wonderful bike , slipper cluch and assist is very smooth . One issue is tubed spoke tyres same as older version , will RE launch tubeless Spoke tyres
Amazing! I think weight can be further reduced with lighter sprockets, also especially with SS Full system exhausts without the heavy unnecessary catcon. I hope Hero guys are watching, with the Xpulse 400/450, hope they can keep an eye on the weight. Considering how heavy the XMR is, compared to it's much lighter rival, the R15 (20kg difference), I don't have high hopes here though, they maybe able to prove me wrong.
Is the the bike given to you by RE? If yes, then its amazing that companies are allowing you to modify it. RE does showcase the custom builds on their YT. Hope to see this bike in RE's yt channel soon. Happy new year Abhinav.
Great Video Abhinav. I am in a fix now. I have had booked the Himalayan 450 in December and now it’s in transit. Will be in the dealership in a week’s time. However, watching so many negative reviews regarding vibration, coneset and what not, I thought of cancelling and booked the Honda NX 500. Now, yesterday I took a test ride of Himalayan 450 for around 200 kms from one of my friend’s dealerships. My observations, beautiful machine, it is big, did not find any issue lifting from side stand at all, good quality, powerful engine, torque under 2 k is slightly less, the best suspension I have tried so far in My last 15 yea of experience. Anything above 2k RPM and this machine is just a bliss. However what is confusing me is vibration on the foot pegs in between 4-5 k RPM in 4 th gear specially and the speed is between 50-65 kmph . Rest of the gears in the same RPM did not find much of vibration. It has slight buzz in the handlebar and foot pegs, which is a good feeling and nothing negative about. This vibration in 4th gear is worrying me only. Please Note, it was only 30km run bike. So after returning from the ride, they have serviced the bike and changed the oil for me. Today I am going for a ride again and see if it has made any difference. What should I do now Himalayan 450 or NX 500?? 👋
If you are comfortable with the pricing of the Honda and plan to mostly ride on road, get the Honda. It will age better than the Himalayan for sure. Vibrations - I don't really care about them, they are barely noticeable to me. If I were to get a bike between the both, I'd get the Himalayan due to my off-road riding bias.
Hello Abhinav, Like always you have taken the initiative for modifications. Kudos to you. What is the make of the footpegs that you have installed. And please try to develop a series of accessories for the new himalayan.
Motourenn footpegs. I can't develop accessories since I am not a fabricator or even into the automotive business. I am just a person who rides bikes for fun.
Hello, greetings from Spain. The weight reduction makes the new Himalayan very interesting. One question, isn't it dangerous for the brake cables to be loose?
@@abhinavbhatt Very kind for your response. I will be attentive to the solutions you find, in case I finally acquire this motorcycle. Personally I prefer to keep the ABS on mine, but perhaps for exclusive off-road use it would be more useful not to have it. Are you also thinking about how to solve the installation of front turn signals?
Also the Swing arm is cast iron steel something, so if cost is not an issue one can get customized Aluminum alloy KTM type to reduce weight , also fuel tank is metal if one can Fabricate it to Fiber - Plastic u'll save significant weight😎
I'm going through a similar process now. Few questions. Is the rally seat lighter? Is there a real detriment to removing the chain guard? With the finder cut off do you notice increased dirt and debris hiiting the radiator and engine?
With the rally seat and upper crash bars removed.I was wandering 🤔 If its possible to replace the wheels with guerrillas wheels ( with frond wheel mudguard) it can be a guerrillas 450 with a bigger fuel tank. I believe it has all the potential to be a 2 in 1 motorcycle (adventure + retro style street necked ). Could you please replace the front wheel with a 100 or120/70-17 wheel infront and make a video on it? However, i found this Himalayan 450 project very informative and helpful.
Great job guys. It's looking pretty sweet while being uncompromisingly functional. I do think using a couple of cable ties to secure those wires to the front fork would be prudent though.
One can remove the spoke wheels and have alloys for road use. Of some light weight options can be produced for tank guard and the rear storage rack, it will really help reduce the top heavy nature of this bike. Exhaust is another candidate but babus will be quick to reprimand.
The problem now is - from my point of view -•that you vave significantly reduced the touring capacity of the bike. No rear rack = no mounting points for luggage. No center stand = much more difficult to do tyre repairs in the field. No front fender = wheel is constantly throwing dirt onto the radiator = overheating. Plus I don't really like the fully exposed vital front break line.
See, almost everything is bolt on and off. The day I have to tour (twice a year), I can bolt the parts back on. And I'll fix the brake line and figure out the fender too.
I like this project!👍 Happy New Year btw.🎉 PS. I know some, like Tusk, have solved the front indicators by integrating them into the hand guards.. might be worth considering..🤔
The way he gave up explaining the composition of the stock footpeg 😂😂😂😂 I think I spotted you near the IIT Flyover today morning. Great video as always !!
The absense of the lower fender will splash mud and rocks on the radiator and eventually can damage it. How did you not consider it before removing it?
A simple radiator guard should be enough to deal with that. Then again, that's metal while the mudguard is plastic. Interested to see the rationale behind this
Went with what is available currently. May do a wire mesh radiator guard later or a high fender with a longer lip at the rear that covers the radiator to some extent.
NO radiator guard stops mud clogging up the radiator which in turn dries hard and leads to overheating. At most I would just have cut off the front of the mudguard in front of the bracket and then raised it on brackets 1-2cm to give more tyre clearance. The removal of chainguard and mirror replacement with those small mirrors would not be legal in the EU and many other countries.
sock protection or wraps on the front forks would be more protection from dust and particles,,ktm duke owners used to buy these or get them made, also rear chain guard should be re added to prevent oil plash marks all over on the bike and on rider and pillion.You can Remove catalytic converter for better performance as well as weight reduction.
I think RE designed it as a touring machine that goes on occasional off roads than a pure off road machine. Yeah shredding weight helps off the road , but on highways weight helps to keep the bike on track at higher speeds.
Great weight saving there🙌🏻 Curious to know what else can be removed or replaced with lighter equipments. Loved that double take trail mirror 🤠, i was assuming it's Zefal spy mirrors on the previous video.
possibly - Lighter wheels, lighter exhaust or Aluminum sprockets (and sprocket sizes if tuning required), But most importantly, one just needs 10 to 12 L of petrol (which would save 4 to 5 Kgs) on top of this weight loss.
My 2009 bmw xcountry weighs 160kg wet as standard. I've changed my exhaust so mine is around 157kg. It is fully road legal, has indicators, mirrors, number plate, rear footrests, etc.....and 53bhp ( standard tune)....
Dear God, I'm writting this to let you know please make this a complete series. The last time a performance series started with r15 the next generation model came out before the bike finished. Please give us the satisfaction that is the completion of project. May there be no pandemic or crashes in between. May there be always a free flow of cash available to Abhinav. Give us bike worthy of this build. Har Har Mahadev🙏🏼
Genuinely bothers me RE mounted the indicators on the front cage. The bike looks so much better without the cage, but the indicator mounts make it essential.
Hold it. The bike you are working on seems to have TL rims fitted on it as if from stock . Where did you get those? Nice video. Let's see how you will save weight on the front number plate, footpegs (Fand R), mirrorsand front mud guard. Will be interesting to note the alternatives to the stock. But my first obsn still stands. Where did you get the TL rims from ???
The bike definitely looks much better without the cage. It is a heavy bike for a 450cc. 11kg reduction would be huge and you would definitely feel the difference I think.
how to compare it to the African Twin? :) I am new to biking, but now I am into buying my first! wanna go far, and a little bit off here and there and feel is foremost fun!
My guy different categories. This is a 450cc bike, africa twin is 1000cc. This produces 40bhp africa twin produces 100bhp. And africa twin is more than 3times as expensive as this one.
@@randombully3798 that has nothing to do with my question at all. If you have no understanding of how to compare manoeuvrability and how two bikes will function compared to each other over a long trip in various terrains, it is better you just stay silent... I understand you have little to no experience travelling around the world on your own...
However, the bike is looking cool. Can't we redesign the front beak as it doesn't look good (has slightly curvy design), sharper streaght design may be better.
I would suggest you to design a fork brace for better stability bcoz that's missing here..... It will play a vital role on the entire handling n braking part
Abhinav ji, I've a out of the context question,.. What is the seat height of the motorcycle after installing the rally seat? Actually, I'm planning to buy a himalayan with rally kit for me. But the main problem is, I'm just 5'8". Can a person of my height flat foot on a rally spec Himalayan? Please answer. And if there is any embargo on you then please make a detailed video on the RALLY SPEC HIMALAYAN after the embargo is over.
So my question is , can you link the the front foot pegs please. Aldo have you made little bracket for the front indicators , as I would like to do the same to mine 😊
Hi Bro. You explain in detail. Really i appreciate your work, that each and every part weighing and making a vlog Cooperation of the garage. I observed that you have a TN registration. How is it possible? If you have a idea please make a vlog on this because we get a factory made. Less tax i think so.
Abhinav : Now, we are going to remove the engine and gearbox from the bike, and the weight that comes off is 35-40 kilos, now the bike weights 100kgs, now the bike is completely modified and will have much better performance....
No no, we keep the engine. And as you can see the chain set is connected to the rear wheel and front wheel is free so, we are going to remove the front wheel and we will just wheelie from here onwards.
Good one
haha, was about to comment something like this..ese to sb hata do 😆
😂
Enna v weight ghatt gaya hai jab se baal uda hai...baklol.. Creativity ke naam par bakloli
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And now we're gonna remove the bike from the garage because i don't need the bike so it will come out 0 kg
Inspiring. Was worried about 195 kg wet weigh 17 L tank, but now, seems it can be dropped down to 175 to 180 with 12 to 13 L petrol, which would be AMAZING. Thanks for taking the initiative.
Why stress, ride with 5L in the tank only.
I love the style of your bike.
Without tank guards is the bike totally different.
Thanks for this!!!!
Nice video Abhinav. Even 20 years ago, round about 7-10 kilos is all we could shed from our 500s removing all the tin work. 196 kilos - 10.7 (round off to 11) is still 185 kilo bike. Not 170. Unless you plan to run it without fuel.
I'm talking dry weight here. Won't run on trails with 17 litres in the tank. Maybe 5-7. So, to keep it simple, just focused on dry weight. Of course ready to ride it will be heavier.
@@abhinavbhattmake a video on tool kit you carry.
Wet doesn’t mean only Fuel.. engine oil 2 litres and coolant 1 litres will itself weights more than 3 kilos and fuel of 5 Litres is another 3 kgs at least. soo please don’t miss lead the viewers. PS: you can’t run a vehicle dry. Soo for practical purpose please mention wet weight. Talking about dry weight is like talking about Ex show room price. Practically you can’t own vehicle at Ex show room price and can’t run vehicle with dry weight. Now peace
@@mallelli99 how is anyone being misled when the first thing I say in the video is that the bike is 181 kg dry. Wet weight will always vary since I don't intend to ride this with a full tank of fuel. So, the constant figure here is the dry weight. Anyone smart enough can add the fuel, engine oil and coolant weight to it.
@@mallelli99 Practically speaking, if the bike were to be taken to a trail with only 7 litres of fuel, that means you are carrying 10 litres less than maximum. 10 litres of fuel equal 7.5 to 8 kg. That is the weight saving with fuel alone that can be realistically achieved as per Abhinav's plan. You can calculate total weight with zero fuel easily too.
As I understand, dry weight is fixed according to the components on the bike. Wet weight varies as fuel is consumed. While we would all prefer to see the reduction in maximum (wet) weight, Abhinav seems to be focusing on the constant weight which is dry weight.
Abhinav, please don’t remove chain guard.. never.. unless you want to get a whiplash from chain incase it beaks while riding off-road..
YES, EXCELLENT Point.
This video will definitely be popular among the international audience who are extremely obsessed with the heavy weight of the himalayan 450. After this they will copy the same and do many more customized modification.
Looks so much better! Well done! Weight reducing is the poor (and clever) mans tuning.
Now that's a healthy crash diet if I ever seen one. Nice going Abhinav. Looking forward to this build series and updates ahead 👍🏼
Thanks
I had planned to do pretty much this, maybe not the mirrors. I travel very lean and my total luggage is around 12 kgs out of which the tubes znd tools to change them is around 3-4 kgs. This is for my xpulse. So once i get the Him 452 withthe tubeless spoke rims, lot of weight from my luggage will go. And i carry just 1 tail bag so the rear rack also is of no use to me.
Hey, it’s good to see you guys working on making this machine more better than it’s present day. I would love to see the journey and the final outcome when this bike is done. Also if you can share more info on this team. It will be helpful
Hello Abhinav, Is the sari guard required for the motorcycle to be on the road, or does it just have to be on at the time of sale?
I think the bike looks good without the front tank guards. I will be getting my bike in March, or April, and will remove them if I don't find them necessary for carrying small bags.
Have you seen the swivel pegs? they are about the same size as the pegs that you installed, but they have a mechanism that allows the pegs to swivel forward, and back 40 degrees from full rotation to full rotation. They spring back to center if you remove your foot, but they move with your ankle as you stand, sit, shift, or use the rear brake. They are probably heavier than non swiveling pegs but they come in 2 sizes. Obviously the smaller ones (still larger than the stock pegs) will be lighter than the large.
My use case will be 90% on road, so I am not too interested in removing weight, but a few of your mods make the bike look better.
Thanks for the video.
Bro Awesome video... I always watch ur video... A very good Informative one... Can You Please Tell Me from Where you have purchased this rally seat???? I want to buy this..
I can't wait till this bike comes to the U.S. I want to get a close look at one. I figure it carries similar weight to a Gen2 KLR.
Absolutely brilliant thinking Mr. Bhat. Good going keep up the innovative work.👍
Thanks
Some more ideas, in case they were not considered:
- replace the plastic fork protection by soft one made of neoprene
- replace the wet battery by a Lithium one
- check for a light weight chain/sproket kit
You still have the chain guide installed, which might not be mandatory but I would bring back the chain guard for safety reason.
And BTW "kg" sounds a bit strange for a European. "kilogram" is much more known 😉
So much fun experiencing your posts from here in New Hampshire ~ USA ~. Not gonna lie. I bought a pack of cigarettes at the local package store here. Two Young Indians here on visa. I just said "Royal Enfield" and out came their wallets with pictures of (smaller) "Royal Enfield" motorcycles. We talked for some time and I did buy the cigarettes 🤮. Anyway, I told them about have purchased a Himalayan 411 (2021 with 3000m) like new. I then got the deposit back when finding the gear ratio was low and not so good on the road @ 65 mph. And so "Keep the Faith" with the Royal Enfield solidarity. All good. Thank you! The 450 is the bike for me. Thanks. 〰✨🌿🦋🌳🌿👍🌿🌳🦋🌿✨〰
Abhinav i bought RE Meteor 350 after watching your videos and I am loving it.
Nice video Abhinav, the new Himalayan has a huge potential to be close to the perfect ADV tourier in our country. But the only major issue that I felt when test-riding the vehicle was the weight of the motorcycle. It was a little too much for me, but some may not think of it the same way. I loved the idea of stripping it down to make it weigh less than the stock motorcycle, and the best part out of the whole lot was the saree guard. I don't see the necessity of it being a standard in our country as hardly women drape sarees these days and travel along as a pillion wearing it.
If we dont buy the bike, we can drop the weight by 195 kgs! 😂😂 Love from Mumbai! ❤❤
We need a new exhaust system as quickly as possible, I am dying to know how much that gigantic catalytic converter / collection chamber weighs on the bottom of the bike. Also, is the Rally Seat comfortable? It looks awesome!
Hey ! I like how it's look without the front cage , but do you think it's possible to keep the turn signal light without the structure?
Not with this set-up.
Interesting video.& easy to lose some weight off the himmy.looking forward to next 1
Tried this weight redux journey on my Himalayan411 and it really really helps a lot! The bike really feels different!🔥
Love your crisp and clear content Abhinav. Subbed+
Thanks
Did you manage to re house the front indicators once the crash bars were removed?
No. I put the guards back on since the tank comes in contact with the ground on crashing.
Is it the rally version which RE showed during launch? Or did you modified the seat?
Cool video. I was going to tell not to remove stock toolkit. We never know when some tools fail and its better to have backup. And I was glad that you decided to keep it. Haha.
If ur going for an complete off road built then it doesn't need the headlights indicators speedometer/dash board all the extra wiring as well can come off with just the start button make it like a dirt bike
Hello bro very happy new you to you n entire family , you tube family , i rode this bike on launch at Saket Showroom it's a wonderful bike , slipper cluch and assist is very smooth . One issue is tubed spoke tyres same as older version , will RE launch tubeless Spoke tyres
Wrong decision for removing the mirror, mirror is most important part of driving time
Love the look of the bike after stripped off, a lot cleaner, I would do the same if I own the bike, look forward to future videos about this bike :D
Could you please tell us where did you get the spoke tubeless wheels from? Really wanting to know that.
This is Royal Enfield's bike. They provided the wheels.
Oh, I see. That's why they're not available anywhere yet. Thanks for the reply.
😂👍🏻@@the_nomad_soul
EXCELLENT work and job guys. EXCELLENT.
WELL done.
10/10.
Greetings from OZ'. (Australia)
Highly interesting. Thanks a lot for the good work.
Wish you could work more offroad bikes in this aspect of weight reduction.
Now this is totally a different type of video....Hats off for making such great video 🔥🔥🔥
Amazing! I think weight can be further reduced with lighter sprockets, also especially with SS Full system exhausts without the heavy unnecessary catcon. I hope Hero guys are watching, with the Xpulse 400/450, hope they can keep an eye on the weight. Considering how heavy the XMR is, compared to it's much lighter rival, the R15 (20kg difference), I don't have high hopes here though, they maybe able to prove me wrong.
Yeah. We will do both. Full system and lighter sprocket.
@@abhinavbhatt Also the windscreen
You have done what the new generation wants 👌
Super useful video, thanks for bringing in so much clarity on this regard.
Is the the bike given to you by RE? If yes, then its amazing that companies are allowing you to modify it. RE does showcase the custom builds on their YT. Hope to see this bike in RE's yt channel soon. Happy new year Abhinav.
err this is basic nut-bolt stuff...
Great Video Abhinav. I am in a fix now. I have had booked the Himalayan 450 in December and now it’s in transit. Will be in the dealership in a week’s time. However, watching so many negative reviews regarding vibration, coneset and what not, I thought of cancelling and booked the Honda NX 500. Now, yesterday I took a test ride of Himalayan 450 for around 200 kms from one of my friend’s
dealerships. My observations, beautiful machine, it is big, did not find any issue lifting from side stand at all, good quality, powerful engine, torque under 2 k is slightly less, the best suspension I have tried so far in
My last 15 yea of experience. Anything above 2k RPM and this machine is just a bliss.
However what is confusing me is vibration on the foot pegs in between 4-5 k RPM in 4 th gear specially and the speed is between 50-65 kmph . Rest of the gears in the same RPM did not find much of vibration. It has slight buzz in the handlebar and foot pegs, which is a good feeling and nothing negative about. This vibration in 4th gear is worrying me only. Please Note, it was only 30km run bike. So after returning from the ride, they have serviced the bike and changed the oil for me. Today I am going for a ride again and see if it has made any difference.
What should I do now Himalayan 450 or NX 500??
👋
If you are comfortable with the pricing of the Honda and plan to mostly ride on road, get the Honda. It will age better than the Himalayan for sure. Vibrations - I don't really care about them, they are barely noticeable to me. If I were to get a bike between the both, I'd get the Himalayan due to my off-road riding bias.
@@abhinavbhattThanks Abhinav. Will let you know about my decision.
Hello Abhinav,
Like always you have taken the initiative for modifications. Kudos to you.
What is the make of the footpegs that you have installed.
And please try to develop a series of accessories for the new himalayan.
Motourenn footpegs.
I can't develop accessories since I am not a fabricator or even into the automotive business. I am just a person who rides bikes for fun.
@@abhinavbhatt Thanks man. I understand. Happy riding to you.
Please share some insights as well as to how to reduce more weight from my old Himalayan. Thanks in advance.
Hello, greetings from Spain. The weight reduction makes the new Himalayan very interesting. One question, isn't it dangerous for the brake cables to be loose?
I'll figure a routing out once I do direct brake lines. I'm planning to remove the ABS unit. I'll do a video on it once we get there.
@@abhinavbhatt Very kind for your response. I will be attentive to the solutions you find, in case I finally acquire this motorcycle. Personally I prefer to keep the ABS on mine, but perhaps for exclusive off-road use it would be more useful not to have it. Are you also thinking about how to solve the installation of front turn signals?
@jrodalv yes. I'd be making a custom bracket for the front. The ABS is too intrusive off-road so just can't have it on the bike. Cheers
Also the Swing arm is cast iron steel something, so if cost is not an issue one can get customized Aluminum alloy KTM type to reduce weight , also fuel tank is metal if one can Fabricate it to Fiber - Plastic u'll save significant weight😎
I have a project that managed to save 15kg from the old model and for that I used a 17in rim on the front wheel. That would be a nice thing to do.
I remember motorist removing the hub caps from the steel wheels on their minis to save weight - they then stored them in the boot!
Lovely and really amazing !! would eagerly waiting to see the final cut weights but hope there is no compromise with Bike and rider/s safety.
I'm going through a similar process now. Few questions.
Is the rally seat lighter?
Is there a real detriment to removing the chain guard?
With the finder cut off do you notice increased dirt and debris hiiting the radiator and engine?
awesome content brother
Really Educational
Btw How much did the rally seat cost you and what is its seats height?
Seat height is 859 mm. Cost not revealed yet. This is a prototype.
It's the engine dead weight which is difficult to handle. Triump is 185kg but the weight distribution is done well to handle and ride.
With the rally seat and upper crash bars removed.I was wandering 🤔 If its possible to replace the wheels with guerrillas wheels ( with frond wheel mudguard) it can be a guerrillas 450 with a bigger fuel tank. I believe it has all the potential to be a 2 in 1 motorcycle (adventure + retro style street necked ).
Could you please replace the front wheel with a 100 or120/70-17 wheel infront and make a video on it?
However, i found this Himalayan 450 project very informative and helpful.
Great job guys. It's looking pretty sweet while being uncompromisingly functional. I do think using a couple of cable ties to secure those wires to the front fork would be prudent though.
Will explore it.
One can remove the spoke wheels and have alloys for road use. Of some light weight options can be produced for tank guard and the rear storage rack, it will really help reduce the top heavy nature of this bike. Exhaust is another candidate but babus will be quick to reprimand.
Nice! How and where did you get the cross spoke wheels??
Abhinav, does the engine remain emission compliant after modifying the ECU and exhaust? Powertronic is working on one of those.
Unlikely.
The problem now is - from my point of view -•that you vave significantly reduced the touring capacity of the bike. No rear rack = no mounting points for luggage. No center stand = much more difficult to do tyre repairs in the field. No front fender = wheel is constantly throwing dirt onto the radiator = overheating. Plus I don't really like the fully exposed vital front break line.
See, almost everything is bolt on and off. The day I have to tour (twice a year), I can bolt the parts back on. And I'll fix the brake line and figure out the fender too.
Swap in a lithium battery as well. Not free, though.
Some good quality adjustable lever give you adjustability and you might lose a few grams as well.
I did. Still looking for adjustable levers though. Cheers
I am really searching for a video like this... You are doing a great work💖
a full system exhaust would be of benefit...with some aftermarket air filter and an ecu tune, it would be a Christmas tree.
In the works
Satisfying video. Great Content Bro!
I like this project!👍 Happy New Year btw.🎉 PS. I know some, like Tusk, have solved the front indicators by integrating them into the hand guards.. might be worth considering..🤔
Happy new year. I don't want the indicators on the handguards since we ride in the bush a lot. I'll figure out something.
Excellent work!!! THANKS
The way he gave up explaining the composition of the stock footpeg 😂😂😂😂 I think I spotted you near the IIT Flyover today morning. Great video as always !!
Possible. I was riding to work.
@@abhinavbhatt whoaaa! I was right!!! My celebrity spotting moment 🥲
The absense of the lower fender will splash mud and rocks on the radiator and eventually can damage it. How did you not consider it before removing it?
A simple radiator guard should be enough to deal with that.
Then again, that's metal while the mudguard is plastic. Interested to see the rationale behind this
Went with what is available currently. May do a wire mesh radiator guard later or a high fender with a longer lip at the rear that covers the radiator to some extent.
NO radiator guard stops mud clogging up the radiator which in turn dries hard and leads to overheating. At most I would just have cut off the front of the mudguard in front of the bracket and then raised it on brackets 1-2cm to give more tyre clearance. The removal of chainguard and mirror replacement with those small mirrors would not be legal in the EU and many other countries.
I'll find a fix for it.
Looks so cool. Is the rally seat a straight fit? I thought you needed the rally rear end as well.
Straight fit.
sock protection or wraps on the front forks would be more protection from dust and particles,,ktm duke owners used to buy these or get them made, also rear chain guard should be re added to prevent oil plash marks all over on the bike and on rider and pillion.You can Remove catalytic converter for better performance as well as weight reduction.
I think RE designed it as a touring machine that goes on occasional off roads than a pure off road machine. Yeah shredding weight helps off the road , but on highways weight helps to keep the bike on track at higher speeds.
Great weight saving there🙌🏻
Curious to know what else can be removed or replaced with lighter equipments.
Loved that double take trail mirror 🤠,
i was assuming it's Zefal spy mirrors on the previous video.
possibly - Lighter wheels, lighter exhaust or Aluminum sprockets (and sprocket sizes if tuning required), But most importantly, one just needs 10 to 12 L of petrol (which would save 4 to 5 Kgs) on top of this weight loss.
Lithium battery and a full system exhaust would probably drop the weight by another 7-10kgs. Bike looks beautiful without the crash bars now.
That's the plan.
Hello , can you tell me the brand of the footpegs you put on please? Great video...👍👍👍
Hello abhinav very interesting video also could u please make a video on power increment as well.
My 2009 bmw xcountry weighs 160kg wet as standard. I've changed my exhaust so mine is around 157kg. It is fully road legal, has indicators, mirrors, number plate, rear footrests, etc.....and 53bhp ( standard tune)....
Lucky guy
you can remove the muffler from exhaust to drop the weight by another 6-700 grams
Ciao bellissimo video... la sella rally monta anche da sola ?nin c'è bisogno di tutto il kit.? grazie
Dear God,
I'm writting this to let you know please make this a complete series. The last time a performance series started with r15 the next generation model came out before the bike finished. Please give us the satisfaction that is the completion of project. May there be no pandemic or crashes in between. May there be always a free flow of cash available to Abhinav. Give us bike worthy of this build.
Har Har Mahadev🙏🏼
Genuinely bothers me RE mounted the indicators on the front cage. The bike looks so much better without the cage, but the indicator mounts make it essential.
Hold it. The bike you are working on seems to have TL rims fitted on it as if from stock . Where did you get those? Nice video. Let's see how you will save weight on the front number plate, footpegs (Fand R), mirrorsand front mud guard. Will be interesting to note the alternatives to the stock. But my first obsn still stands. Where did you get the TL rims from ???
the two higher-end models (black&gold and this one) come with the option of TL rims
What happens if you remove half the spokes... Or why half.. remove all.
The bike definitely looks much better without the cage. It is a heavy bike for a 450cc. 11kg reduction would be huge and you would definitely feel the difference I think.
You are forgetting to remove the pistons from the engine.... Then air filter.., fuel gage etc....
how to compare it to the African Twin? :) I am new to biking, but now I am into buying my first! wanna go far, and a little bit off here and there and feel is foremost fun!
My guy different categories.
This is a 450cc bike, africa twin is 1000cc.
This produces 40bhp africa twin produces 100bhp.
And africa twin is more than 3times as expensive as this one.
@@randombully3798 that has nothing to do with my question at all. If you have no understanding of how to compare manoeuvrability and how two bikes will function compared to each other over a long trip in various terrains, it is better you just stay silent... I understand you have little to no experience travelling around the world on your own...
This channel is underrated
However, the bike is looking cool. Can't we redesign the front beak as it doesn't look good (has slightly curvy design), sharper streaght design may be better.
The horn and the metal cover on the exhaust could be removed too or be replaced by a lighter one.
I think front fender also protects Radiator from debris hitting it, shouldn't have removed it.
I would suggest you to design a fork brace for better stability bcoz that's missing here..... It will play a vital role on the entire handling n braking part
Upside down forks don't need a fork brace. The thicker tubes take care of it.
Abhinav ji, I've a out of the context question,.. What is the seat height of the motorcycle after installing the rally seat? Actually, I'm planning to buy a himalayan with rally kit for me. But the main problem is, I'm just 5'8". Can a person of my height flat foot on a rally spec Himalayan? Please answer.
And if there is any embargo on you then please make a detailed video on the RALLY SPEC HIMALAYAN after the embargo is over.
I like to use that Race Factory's 49T Sprocket,, but can you tell me did i need to change the chain as well or does it fits also with the stock chain?
In next video remove Tank also, it will reduce more weight 😂
Nice job. But at the same time, I don't know what is the point of a bike like this over any dual sport on the market.
It looks awesome without the cage and lower fender. That exhaust must weigh a bit?
Yes it does. We will put in a full system soon.
quick question, do the rally seat fit without the Rally kit? i read that you would need the kit for the seat to fit. but you guys did it.
It fits.
So my question is , can you link the the front foot pegs please. Aldo have you made little bracket for the front indicators , as I would like to do the same to mine 😊
Pls do a ride and let us know ur views on the lighter Himalayan. Is the weight drop worth it??
Already up on my channel. The video before this one.
@@abhinavbhatt Ohh wow! Tq
Foot pegs are like Xpulse 200
How did you source the tubeless spoke rims when it’s not officially launched in India?🤔🤔
Hi Bro.
You explain in detail.
Really i appreciate your work, that each and every part weighing and making a vlog
Cooperation of the garage.
I observed that you have a TN registration.
How is it possible?
If you have a idea please make a vlog on this because we get a factory made.
Less tax i think so.
How you got the cross spokes wheels? Is this a test bike that you bought afterwards?