This box is absolutely amazing. In fact, I think that Supraphon should release a Josef Suk box (or a Josef Suk edition, such as the Talich or Ančerl editions), as he was one of the very greatest violinists of the last century.
I agree with you about both Suk's stature as a violinist and the need for a comprehensive Suk box, but Supraphon have done a box of early Suk recordings.
Thank you very much. Never heard of the Suk Trio, but love the Beethoven piano trios. They always sound, fresh, original and uplifting. Gorgeous music. I have two sets of the Beaux Arts Trio, but the Suk Trio will be a nice addition.
Thanks, Dave, for initiating what will probably become a series on piano trio repertoire. I have greatly enjoyed the Suk Trio's Dvorak but have never heard their Beethoven, so this was a particularly helpful and informative talk. The samples you played were gorgeous. Some of the late Haydn trios, as I recall, break out of the piano-sonata-with-string-accompaniment pattern and indeed paved the way for Beethoven's.
Wow, since your Eroica video release, I have been occupying myself with Beethoven's String Quartets, following your recommendations of course. It was only a few hours ago that I finally finished my personal survey (I found Leipzig to be my favourite!). And so it was that just a few minutes before you released this video, I was sitting in my car thinking, "Maybe I need a break from Beethoven. Who do I turn to now?". Lo and behold, I see the notification for this video. Clearly, my Beethoven sessions must continue! Thank you David for covering this repertoire.
I had been looking at this set after recently enjoying the Supraphon box with Suk and Jan Panenka playing Beethoven's complete violin sonatas, and your recommendation pushed me over the edge even though I have Ashkenazy/Harrell/Perlman and others in this music. I can hear from the examples you played that these are distinctive interpretations, as one would expect from Josef Suk. More chamber music videos please!
They sound wonderful performances - may have to invest! Interesting you mentioned about humour in classical music getting short shrift; some of my favorite listening is accompanied with a smile. Case in point I've been listening to Poulenc's Les Biches recently - Rondeau always has me grinning from ear to ear as it's genuinely witty music (and to me has some striking similarities to the final Allegro assai movement in Stravinsky's Pulcinella). It's also music difficult to get out of your head - real ear worm stuff!
It's a pity the Haydn trios are not better known, and I hope one day you talk about them. They have some extraordinary music, and if you play the one in E flat minor in a party, I'm sure everyone would say it's from Schubert.
A splendid set, only a pity that Supraphon has never reisued the Suk Trio's 1960 "Archduke" (still with Panenka on piano), which is a bit swifter and yet more poised. Same with the glorious 1967 Dvořák F minor, which is simply the best-ever recording of that piece. We need a Suk Trio box. Edit: date.
Good news! Supraphon DID reissue the Suk/Chuchro/Panenka Archduke on cd, at least twice: first coupled with the equally glorious Suk Trio/Czech Phil./Masur Triple Cto; and then again in 2008, in an absolutely essential 2cd set of the Archduke, Ghost, and Op.1/3 Trios, plus the Schubert Bb Trio, all with Panenka on piano. I treasure ALL these recordings...as I do the later complete set with Hala, which I first bought on then-rare Denon Lps, and then again on Denon CDs.
The early string trios are fine music, as are some early piano sonatas, but the first 3 trios are Beethoven's first great statement of intent, displaying a wide range of emotions. Du Pre and Barenboim's set was my first experience of this music, and I still treasure it. Great video as usual.
I read that Haydn tried talking Beethoven out of publishing the C minor. I'm always amazed at the amount of passion in the largo of no. 2. Quite astonishing for an opus 1!
Hello Dave! Thank you very much for making this talk about the Beethoven piano trios. Now I would like to ask you to consider to make a talk about the ten greatest recordings of the Vienna Philharmonic. Best wishes Fred.
Thanks for pointing out the similarity between the Archduke's opening theme and that of the Rasumovsky no 1. Whenever I listen to one, it always drives the other out of my memory and I thought it must be me. The performance of the Archduke I always listen to is the Suk Trio in its earlier 1962 incarnation with Suk, Chuchro and Panenka. If these performances are anything like as good as that, then I'll have to get them
Thanks Dave. I just got acquainted with Beethoven’s wonderful piano trios through the Stern Isotomin set. As I was listening I thought it get any better than this? Maybe it can. Thanks for the recommendation.
I live the beethoven trios. My first encounter with them was through the beaux arts trio, and that disk is very dear to my heart, as is basically every disk I heard of that fine group. Thank you for the recommendation I will.check it out.
Hi dave.may i suggest a new survey topic? The name of this topic should be named " forgotten or buried pearls" ..and the first one to appear needs to be anton arenskys,first piano trio...my god the beuty of this piece is indescribable..from beginning to end. Many thanks.moshe.
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This box is absolutely amazing. In fact, I think that Supraphon should release a Josef Suk box (or a Josef Suk edition, such as the Talich or Ančerl editions), as he was one of the very greatest violinists of the last century.
I agree with you about both Suk's stature as a violinist and the need for a comprehensive Suk box, but Supraphon have done a box of early Suk recordings.
I would LOVE an Ancerl box.
Thank you very much. Never heard of the Suk Trio, but love the Beethoven piano trios. They always sound, fresh, original and uplifting. Gorgeous music. I have two sets of the Beaux Arts Trio, but the Suk Trio will be a nice addition.
Thanks, Dave, for initiating what will probably become a series on piano trio repertoire. I have greatly enjoyed the Suk Trio's Dvorak but have never heard their Beethoven, so this was a particularly helpful and informative talk. The samples you played were gorgeous. Some of the late Haydn trios, as I recall, break out of the piano-sonata-with-string-accompaniment pattern and indeed paved the way for Beethoven's.
Wow, since your Eroica video release, I have been occupying myself with Beethoven's String Quartets, following your recommendations of course. It was only a few hours ago that I finally finished my personal survey (I found Leipzig to be my favourite!). And so it was that just a few minutes before you released this video, I was sitting in my car thinking, "Maybe I need a break from Beethoven. Who do I turn to now?". Lo and behold, I see the notification for this video. Clearly, my Beethoven sessions must continue! Thank you David for covering this repertoire.
I had been looking at this set after recently enjoying the Supraphon box with Suk and Jan Panenka playing Beethoven's complete violin sonatas, and your recommendation pushed me over the edge even though I have Ashkenazy/Harrell/Perlman and others in this music. I can hear from the examples you played that these are distinctive interpretations, as one would expect from Josef Suk. More chamber music videos please!
They sound wonderful performances - may have to invest! Interesting you mentioned about humour in classical music getting short shrift; some of my favorite listening is accompanied with a smile. Case in point I've been listening to Poulenc's Les Biches recently - Rondeau always has me grinning from ear to ear as it's genuinely witty music (and to me has some striking similarities to
the final Allegro assai movement in Stravinsky's Pulcinella). It's also music difficult to get out of your head - real ear worm stuff!
I've recently bought the suk trio rendition of the Smetana's trio ...simply astonishing! A box of their complete recordings is a cultural duty!
It's a pity the Haydn trios are not better known, and I hope one day you talk about them. They have some extraordinary music, and if you play the one in E flat minor in a party, I'm sure everyone would say it's from Schubert.
Weren't they a pretty big deal from that Beaux Arts series? The Penguin Rosettes and all that.
You attained a very lovely tone of ambient warm orange lighting in this video with the natural light playing off the tam-tam.
It was an accident. I need a new light.
Suk's Beethoven violin sonatas are wonderful too, so I'll look forward to this!
A splendid set, only a pity that Supraphon has never reisued the Suk Trio's 1960 "Archduke" (still with Panenka on piano), which is a bit swifter and yet more poised. Same with the glorious 1967 Dvořák F minor, which is simply the best-ever recording of that piece. We need a Suk Trio box.
Edit: date.
Good news! Supraphon DID reissue the Suk/Chuchro/Panenka Archduke on cd, at least twice: first coupled with the equally glorious Suk Trio/Czech Phil./Masur Triple Cto; and then again in 2008, in an absolutely essential 2cd set of the Archduke, Ghost, and Op.1/3 Trios, plus the Schubert Bb Trio, all with Panenka on piano. I treasure ALL these recordings...as I do the later complete set with Hala, which I first bought on then-rare Denon Lps, and then again on Denon CDs.
@@richardfrankel6102 Thank you for your response. I will seek out that set you mentioned. We still need a box, though.
The early string trios are fine music, as are some early piano sonatas, but the first 3 trios are Beethoven's first great statement of intent, displaying a wide range of emotions. Du Pre and Barenboim's set was my first experience of this music, and I still treasure it. Great video as usual.
I read that Haydn tried talking Beethoven out of publishing the C minor. I'm always amazed at the amount of passion in the largo of no. 2. Quite astonishing for an opus 1!
Hello Dave!
Thank you very much for making this talk about the Beethoven piano trios. Now I would like to ask you to consider to make a talk about the ten greatest recordings of the Vienna Philharmonic.
Best wishes Fred.
Thanks for pointing out the similarity between the Archduke's opening theme and that of the Rasumovsky no 1. Whenever I listen to one, it always drives the other out of my memory and I thought it must be me. The performance of the Archduke I always listen to is the Suk Trio in its earlier 1962 incarnation with Suk, Chuchro and Panenka. If these performances are anything like as good as that, then I'll have to get them
Thanks Dave. I just got acquainted with Beethoven’s wonderful piano trios through the Stern Isotomin set. As I was listening I thought it get any better than this? Maybe it can. Thanks for the recommendation.
I live the beethoven trios. My first encounter with them was through the beaux arts trio, and that disk is very dear to my heart, as is basically every disk I heard of that fine group. Thank you for the recommendation I will.check it out.
Hi dave.may i suggest a new survey topic? The name of this topic should be named " forgotten or buried pearls" ..and the first one to appear needs to be anton arenskys,first piano trio...my god the beuty of this piece is indescribable..from beginning to end.
Many thanks.moshe.
I've got a whole playlist about that.
The last century and a half has seen some extraordinary violinists amongst whom Josef Suk ranks with the best.
Such a great box!
A wonderful talk as always but as a European, I can't help but feel a little excluded from this "Make America Classical Again" thing... :-)
That's OK... we can have M.E.C.A instead :)
Exactly.
@@ftumschk , even M. W. C. A...😉