First off: the both of you are absolutely adorable!!! Like 2 kids on Christmas morning!!! I am such a newbie that I have never rolled a game, but the lore of the drukhari really speaks to me. Your enthusiasm for this faction really swayed me to go and play my first game tomorrow. Thank you guys for going through all this in a way that even a Warhammer virgin could understand. 😘
i miss the days of 4+/2++/5++ when you could stack ghost plate armour on your archon with the shadowfield so he wasn't completely useless after you enevitably failed the save.
Exactly, Scourge are 100% essential, i'd say 3 squads normally with 2 min in every list. Chronos is 100% essential also, 1-2 as the first names on the teamsheet for every Drukhari army.
I agree with the Scourges they are a great unit, as we said we Havnt had chance to field the army yet and see how each unit performs, but I do think the Talos is much better than a Chronos just for its damage potential, but I will deffo give it a try, if we did miss any other good data sheets let me know, myself and Aaron are keen to use this army it is so fun 😂
@@ajtame I really do like the mandrakes, we could of spoken about a lot more units we just thought the main ones we did discuss were more spicy but I do like the tactical play of mandrakes
@@VT_Jord Cronos isn’t for the damage it’s for the regen of pain tokens. I think the Talos is a bit of a trap, we have plenty of anti tank with all the dark lances we can pack. I think the core of every list is: Archon 2 or 3 Ravagers 2 or 3 Scourges 1 or 2 Cronos 1 or 2 Mandrakes 2 Venoms 2 or 3 Kabalites 1 or 2 Raiders I really like Reavers and Wracks as well.
Imo, Dark Eldar are a glass without a cannon part, unless you go heavy on covens. ATM, I'm rather dissapointed with them, but maybe beacuse I'm mainly a Kabal player. Court+ kabalites and archon, to me is just a point sink, that are very fragile. Remember, while embarked on the transport, none of the passengers can use thier abilities... so no re-rolls to wound from Achon, or +CP for opponenent's strats, or no lethal hits from lhamean. I also think, as for now, players are almost obliged to play full three subfactions, in order to perform well, and make up for DE weaknesses.
Great video 👍 I think you got the wrack loadout options incorrect. My understanding is that for each five you can take one of each of the four special weapons so a unit of ten can take eight special weapons. That's also how it works in the GW 40k app.
Yeah this all would be awesome if we weren't hamstrung by page 5 of the FAQ where it states embarked models don't count as been on the table soncan the targeted by stratagems or ability, so the archons abilities don't work while in a transport and let's be honest if we are out of our raiders sh#t has gone sideways for us.
I don't think you can target transports with the Prey on the weak strat since they don't have the Kabal keyword. You could find a good situation to use it on a ravager though.
Had a question about how army rules work vs. detachment rules. If you play a codex deviant chapter, let's say Dark Angels, you still get the generic space marine army rules as well as the DA one correct? But when it comes to detachment rules, you are only allowed to choose ONE, not both the space marine and dark angel detachment rule. Am I on the right track here?
Great overview, although I did disagree with some things, like needing to have all 3 characters so you can use Alliance of Agony, but its still a great discussion. With kabalite warriors giving sticky objectives we don't need wracks sitting on objectives. Cronos and Talos seen the coven units to take. Wyches just aren't that good for the points, Beastpacks are better, Lilith can only make up for the poor wyches. You miss out on Alliance of Agony and start with only 4 pain tokens (if you start without a Sucubus/Lilith or a Haemonoculus) but I think its better overall to have better units in your army.
Ive played some games with drukhari in 10th now. Its scourges and ravagers or bust in my meta. Regular units dont hit hard enough to make an impact. Anti-infantry is nice, but they feel like theyve lost survivability from 9th in my experience.
At 22 min you mention following up an empowered raider after using a ravager for wound re-rolls. Correct me if im wrong but the raider does NOT have the kabal keyword
@@VT_Jord just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing something!!! Would be amazing if they had the keyword LOL. I took my DE against CSM yesterday and had a 93-68 win
Considering that wyches are crap and wracks aren't that punchy, alliance of agony really isnt that great of a stratagem to use. A drukhari meta army would spam Kabalite Warriors, venoms, scourges and ravagers - none of which can be led by a succubus or a haemonculus and since youre spamming kabalites to put in venoms, that one archons kabalite unit being empowered wont matter for much either.
I'm thinking the same, although Lilith and a Heamy with the Art of Pain could be argued for the wyches and wracks seem like big taxes to get them. I've gone for just an Archon and will deal with only 4 starting pain tokens. I didn't even both with the Art of Pain enhancement because you need to be on the battlefield, ie. out of a transport, which to me means he won't get for the first 2 turns.
I've been building a Drukhari army since they where made of metal and I still have my models. i still wish to build my army with the old metal miniatures and kit bash a kill them from the metal minis.
you see so much anti-infantry 3+ but no AP and dmg 1 is just not good enough. For how squishy they are most units dont hit hard enough. Drukhari are supposed to be a trade army but most units dont trade back any significant dmg.
With the detachment rule where you gain the additional pain token for a Succubus model for example - I read that as a Succubus model and not a model with the keyword Succubus. So I assumed Lilith wouldn’t give me the additional token. So do I get the additional token or not? (Same goes for Urien\Haemonculus)
The detachment rule is awful. Considering players are starting to run maybe only 1 hq, it does almost nothing. Compare to the craftworld detachment, where they get free re-rolls to hit and wound throughout the game. Also, I doubt anyone will ever use the alliance of agony strat, the restrictions are too specific. You're having a laugh if you think that's the best one! All 3 characters on the board needing to do the same thing at the same time... 2CP also too much for strike and fade considering how little there is available to dark eldar during the game. Should go back to 1CP.
I find these videos really dull and uninspiring. I realise it's a lot of info but talking heads and no cuts to models or examples of play and just text popping up that's too small to read, these videos feel like they're for experienced players who already know this stuff. This should be exciting and make me want to go play or pick up a box. It doesn't. That's not the guys fault it's the copy paste insert name format of these
Sad I was not consulted on this . Ahhh the dark kin 😢
😂 jokes . Love what you do ! Can’t wait to be in studio on the 16th of august.
fair haha
Would love to see you do a reaction video!
Lets see the reaction vid Skarri! No way any ones catching up to you as best Drukahi in the iTC
Make it happen Skari!!❤
First off: the both of you are absolutely adorable!!! Like 2 kids on Christmas morning!!! I am such a newbie that I have never rolled a game, but the lore of the drukhari really speaks to me. Your enthusiasm for this faction really swayed me to go and play my first game tomorrow.
Thank you guys for going through all this in a way that even a Warhammer virgin could understand. 😘
Scourges are huge in 10th. Built in Fire and Fade especially through walls is so good. Can't wait for the more detachments.
Yeh! It’s crazy they missed them. Those are the actual top unit in the index
@Lothrean Yup! I used 3x5 of them with Dark Lances and it's hilarious!
@@samuelparkinson5407 exactly the 3 units that get clicked first in all my lists!
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Loving all your content. Thanks for sharing this as we jump into 10th
I am new to 40K and you guys have hyped me up to start this army.
Thank you for another faction focus video!
i miss the days of 4+/2++/5++ when you could stack ghost plate armour on your archon with the shadowfield so he wasn't completely useless after you enevitably failed the save.
Sleeping hard on the Scourge and chronos
Exactly, Scourge are 100% essential, i'd say 3 squads normally with 2 min in every list. Chronos is 100% essential also, 1-2 as the first names on the teamsheet for every Drukhari army.
I agree with the Scourges they are a great unit, as we said we Havnt had chance to field the army yet and see how each unit performs, but I do think the Talos is much better than a Chronos just for its damage potential, but I will deffo give it a try, if we did miss any other good data sheets let me know, myself and Aaron are keen to use this army it is so fun 😂
Also Mandrakes imo are essential, I would always take min 1 unit, they are crucial for missions
@@ajtame I really do like the mandrakes, we could of spoken about a lot more units we just thought the main ones we did discuss were more spicy but I do like the tactical play of mandrakes
@@VT_Jord Cronos isn’t for the damage it’s for the regen of pain tokens. I think the Talos is a bit of a trap, we have plenty of anti tank with all the dark lances we can pack.
I think the core of every list is:
Archon
2 or 3 Ravagers
2 or 3 Scourges
1 or 2 Cronos
1 or 2 Mandrakes
2 Venoms
2 or 3 Kabalites
1 or 2 Raiders
I really like Reavers and Wracks as well.
Imo, Dark Eldar are a glass without a cannon part, unless you go heavy on covens. ATM, I'm rather dissapointed with them, but maybe beacuse I'm mainly a Kabal player. Court+ kabalites and archon, to me is just a point sink, that are very fragile. Remember, while embarked on the transport, none of the passengers can use thier abilities... so no re-rolls to wound from Achon, or +CP for opponenent's strats, or no lethal hits from lhamean.
I also think, as for now, players are almost obliged to play full three subfactions, in order to perform well, and make up for DE weaknesses.
The current best way to play them is to cram as many darklances into your list as possible and those do pack a serious punch!
@@Arisawa_Heavy_Ind That's also true, unfortunately.
@@Arisawa_Heavy_Indisn’t that how it’s always been lol
Great video 👍
I think you got the wrack loadout options incorrect. My understanding is that for each five you can take one of each of the four special weapons so a unit of ten can take eight special weapons.
That's also how it works in the GW 40k app.
Exactly! 4x2 weapons.
3 things - Dark Lances on everything, Cronos to get back your pain tokens, 3 units of Scourges (with dark lances)
Did this against a Necron player who used ghost arks. Did not land one hit again his invulnerable saves. Quite bad luck.
Drukhari, totally vile. But some awesome tactics.
Yeah this all would be awesome if we weren't hamstrung by page 5 of the FAQ where it states embarked models don't count as been on the table soncan the targeted by stratagems or ability, so the archons abilities don't work while in a transport and let's be honest if we are out of our raiders sh#t has gone sideways for us.
I don't think you can target transports with the Prey on the weak strat since they don't have the Kabal keyword. You could find a good situation to use it on a ravager though.
Ravengers have the kabal keyword
Had a question about how army rules work vs. detachment rules. If you play a codex deviant chapter, let's say Dark Angels, you still get the generic space marine army rules as well as the DA one correct? But when it comes to detachment rules, you are only allowed to choose ONE, not both the space marine and dark angel detachment rule. Am I on the right track here?
That Haemonculus…. DAMN
Great overview, although I did disagree with some things, like needing to have all 3 characters so you can use Alliance of Agony, but its still a great discussion.
With kabalite warriors giving sticky objectives we don't need wracks sitting on objectives. Cronos and Talos seen the coven units to take. Wyches just aren't that good for the points, Beastpacks are better, Lilith can only make up for the poor wyches. You miss out on Alliance of Agony and start with only 4 pain tokens (if you start without a Sucubus/Lilith or a Haemonoculus) but I think its better overall to have better units in your army.
Have you done orks already?
Orks is out on Thursday bud
Ive played some games with drukhari in 10th now. Its scourges and ravagers or bust in my meta. Regular units dont hit hard enough to make an impact. Anti-infantry is nice, but they feel like theyve lost survivability from 9th in my experience.
I just started getting into the Dark Eldar. My other is Tau.
At 22 min you mention following up an empowered raider after using a ravager for wound re-rolls. Correct me if im wrong but the raider does NOT have the kabal keyword
Yes good spot I did mean the unit inside getting out but I didn't say it like that lol! But yeah your right
@@VT_Jord just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing something!!! Would be amazing if they had the keyword LOL. I took my DE against CSM yesterday and had a 93-68 win
Considering that wyches are crap and wracks aren't that punchy, alliance of agony really isnt that great of a stratagem to use. A drukhari meta army would spam Kabalite Warriors, venoms, scourges and ravagers - none of which can be led by a succubus or a haemonculus and since youre spamming kabalites to put in venoms, that one archons kabalite unit being empowered wont matter for much either.
I'm thinking the same, although Lilith and a Heamy with the Art of Pain could be argued for the wyches and wracks seem like big taxes to get them. I've gone for just an Archon and will deal with only 4 starting pain tokens. I didn't even both with the Art of Pain enhancement because you need to be on the battlefield, ie. out of a transport, which to me means he won't get for the first 2 turns.
I've been building a Drukhari army since they where made of metal and I still have my models. i still wish to build my army with the old metal miniatures and kit bash a kill them from the metal minis.
you see so much anti-infantry 3+ but no AP and dmg 1 is just not good enough. For how squishy they are most units dont hit hard enough. Drukhari are supposed to be a trade army but most units dont trade back any significant dmg.
With the detachment rule where you gain the additional pain token for a Succubus model for example - I read that as a Succubus model and not a model with the keyword Succubus. So I assumed Lilith wouldn’t give me the additional token. So do I get the additional token or not? (Same goes for Urien\Haemonculus)
Makes sense, thats how I play granted how they’re just amped versions of their unnamed kin
Waiting for the WE!!!....
The detachment rule is awful. Considering players are starting to run maybe only 1 hq, it does almost nothing. Compare to the craftworld detachment, where they get free re-rolls to hit and wound throughout the game.
Also, I doubt anyone will ever use the alliance of agony strat, the restrictions are too specific. You're having a laugh if you think that's the best one! All 3 characters on the board needing to do the same thing at the same time...
2CP also too much for strike and fade considering how little there is available to dark eldar during the game. Should go back to 1CP.
I find these videos really dull and uninspiring. I realise it's a lot of info but talking heads and no cuts to models or examples of play and just text popping up that's too small to read, these videos feel like they're for experienced players who already know this stuff. This should be exciting and make me want to go play or pick up a box. It doesn't. That's not the guys fault it's the copy paste insert name format of these
Lowkey music would do a lot
*3 months later* wyches killing things…that’s funny
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