This is like throwing a party and everyone trying to debate what song should be played first. The DCU tells an over arching story yes but these projects are all individual, we have to get out of that MCU mindset that everything has to be an origin story, linear, and be connected constantly leading from one project to another, that’s exactly why people became fatigued with marvel.
No, people became fatigued with Marvel because the executives made the decision to switch from telling solid stories to preaching, politicizing, and generally NOT telling solid stories. As for the DCU, there’s nothing wrong with individual projects. It’s more so the QUALITY of those projects that I’m questioning.
Besides which, James Gunn has personally seen to it that neither CC nor Superman will be "individual" projects. Both are going to be heavily connected to his DCEU stuff.
I haven’t seen it yet, but in the defence of what James Gunn said - these projects won’t all be essential viewing for each other and it’ll just be a bunch of stories that take place in the same universe. In that case and as long as the series don’t bleed into the films then I’m fine with that.
James Gunn himself said that the true start of the DCU will be the Superman movie. It seems likely that the projects currently being released were already in pre-production, and canceling them outright would just result in a significant financial loss for Warner Bros. and DC Studios right now. Like by releasing these projects they're not only recouping some of the investments but also keeping some fans engaged while they gear up for the full REAL DCU reboot, which is Superman: Legacy. Either way this transitional phase or whatever allows James Gunn and the DCU to slowly transition and bridge the gap between the old and new vision for the franchise!!!
@@d2.deetwo I hear you, but the decision to even do PRE-production in this show was made AFTER Gunn took over. He has spoken about how he greenlighted it himself. So he could easily have just tossed it AS WELL AS his film Superman and started with content that made more of a complete break with the DCU. Or, if not that, he could’ve at least just STARTED with Superman and reworked it for the DCU.
I'm sorry, my friend; but I must disagree. Especially when the episodes are fewer than thirty minutes long and are all part of one ongoing story. That model works with Network TV, where you've got between thirteen and twenty-six episodes, most of which are filler or only add casually to the overall narrative, and where only five or six episodes REALLY advance the plot. Network TV is MADE for that sort of release schedule. A streaming series of only seven episodes, all of which add to a short story, is not.
@fred_flinstone8 you just got spoiled with binge culture that started with streaming. If you can't watch it weekly you still got the option of wathcing everything at once when it all aired
@@marvel22-mf1js James Gunn has already gone on record to say Peacemaker S1 is canon except for the justice league pop-in. And Peacemaker is very much canon to The Suicide Squad. The confusion arising from all that is EXACTLY why they should’ve just done a full and clean reboot on the DCEU.
I don’t think it’s A mistake at all. It shows the world that we aren’t the old DCEU and we aren’t marvel. It’s random and that how universe should be. Plus the first two episodes kicked ass.
I think starting with Creature Commandos is more of a practical decision. The project was ready to be watched much earlier than Superman, and it also helps filling the void of DCU contents. There is a 1 year 6 months gap between Aquaman 2, last DCEU content and Superman, first DCU movie. In this modern culture of searching for quick self-gratification, 'having a little snack' like Creature Commandos should be great to keep audiences interested. You can start your universe by throwing a smaller party, like Creature Commandos. You can also start by throwing a freaking carnival, like Superman. It's more like opening a business, and deciding whether to start with soft opening vs grand opening. Either way, everyone knows Superman is going to be much more profitable than Creature Commandos, and there's nothing anyone can do to change that. And does it work? Yeah, it works.
There's a very simple way to give the audience a taste while not making a bad first showing for the brand. And that is to START IT WITH A TACTICALLY SOUNDER SHOW.
That was the only script that was available to be released. They need to release something by this year, and they only have one option, as i the script was already completed before James gunn took longer.
Quality over quantity. If it isn't that good, it's better not to release anything until something better comes along. It's better than making suicide squad type film again for the 3rd time
Dude seriously this is blown out of proportion. The first two episodes have entertaining characters, expected humour, great action. The world building is slowly moving, we all knew what to expect from this show. Why are you people bashing on it for that ? This feels like click bait barely any substance to your points
Thank god I don’t have Max. I knew this show was going to be terrible. The DCU sucks already. This is basically Velma 2.0. This is not how you start a cinematic universe. They need to fire both David Zaslav and James Gunn.
…depends. The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are Gunn’s pride and joy and this show starts the new Universe off with them. I actually rewatched Peacemaker because of this show….
@@fred_flinstone8 barely , I mean I didn't have to (I'm not some smart individual)... BUT At absolute maximum you'd need to watch a recap . But not the entire show to get what's happening
@@RacerMcJack Yeah, that's my whole point. It's a misstep for WBD to START a new universe with content that cannot be fully understood WITHOUT exposure to the previous universe's content.
It’s like an appetizer that you try in a restaurant and then you send it back because it was nowhere near as good as advertised on the menu. In other words and to your point, terrible way to launch a new cinematic universe.
CC is soft corn and potentially worse, and a very niche project. Not a way to start a cinematic universe for the general audience. And Superman doesn't look good. WBD should have stayed the course and made MOS 2 and let the other 4 films they threw under the bus be released as intended and not chopped up by Gunn, and THEN looked to see if they needed to reboot (They really wouldn't have). Killing those last 4 films, screwing Cavill, and lying to the fans was not a good business move. WBD stock tanked that day and hasn't recovered.
Feels like the script for this video was written weeks before Creature Commandos even came out. You'd made up your mind you disliked it long ago. Smh. This video is a sponsored hit. Sponsored by the SnyderCult and all the hate they stand for
I see your point but I disagree; you have to remember this universe is already in progression it’s already started so you have to understand it’s not gonna be nothing like the MCU. Again creatures commandos is not a bad show ; it’s actually good, not my favorite but good. I will say this is a DC fan , like you I would’ve started different but I can see how this also can work. And to all DC fans we don’t know how the Superman movie will be but if we are a DC fan we definitely don’t want it to flop we need to hope for the best and see what reality shows .
Wasting Circe who comes from a A list Dc property like Wonder woman on a c list properry like creatures commando is stupid. Not to mention that weirdo james gunn creepy obssesion over a crapy character like damien wayne
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This is like throwing a party and everyone trying to debate what song should be played first. The DCU tells an over arching story yes but these projects are all individual, we have to get out of that MCU mindset that everything has to be an origin story, linear, and be connected constantly leading from one project to another, that’s exactly why people became fatigued with marvel.
No, people became fatigued with Marvel because the executives made the decision to switch from telling solid stories to preaching, politicizing, and generally NOT telling solid stories. As for the DCU, there’s nothing wrong with individual projects. It’s more so the QUALITY of those projects that I’m questioning.
Besides which, James Gunn has personally seen to it that neither CC nor Superman will be "individual" projects. Both are going to be heavily connected to his DCEU stuff.
Agreed
I haven’t seen it yet, but in the defence of what James Gunn said - these projects won’t all be essential viewing for each other and it’ll just be a bunch of stories that take place in the same universe. In that case and as long as the series don’t bleed into the films then I’m fine with that.
Fair enough.
Creature commandos is a great start to the DCU cause it explained the continuity rather well
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@ the animation looks better than invincible
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James Gunn himself said that the true start of the DCU will be the Superman movie. It seems likely that the projects currently being released were already in pre-production, and canceling them outright would just result in a significant financial loss for Warner Bros. and DC Studios right now. Like by releasing these projects they're not only recouping some of the investments but also keeping some fans engaged while they gear up for the full REAL DCU reboot, which is Superman: Legacy. Either way this transitional phase or whatever allows James Gunn and the DCU to slowly transition and bridge the gap between the old and new vision for the franchise!!!
@@d2.deetwo I hear you, but the decision to even do PRE-production in this show was made AFTER Gunn took over. He has spoken about how he greenlighted it himself. So he could easily have just tossed it AS WELL AS his film Superman and started with content that made more of a complete break with the DCU. Or, if not that, he could’ve at least just STARTED with Superman and reworked it for the DCU.
Bro is mad asf LOL the show did great and James Gunn is going to make a great universe
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I like that they're releasing the episode weekly,it's better for buisness and give you something to watch every week
I'm sorry, my friend; but I must disagree. Especially when the episodes are fewer than thirty minutes long and are all part of one ongoing story. That model works with Network TV, where you've got between thirteen and twenty-six episodes, most of which are filler or only add casually to the overall narrative, and where only five or six episodes REALLY advance the plot. Network TV is MADE for that sort of release schedule. A streaming series of only seven episodes, all of which add to a short story, is not.
@fred_flinstone8 you just got spoiled with binge culture that started with streaming. If you can't watch it weekly you still got the option of wathcing everything at once when it all aired
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 Which is what I'll be doing regarding CC, as I said in the video.
By the way a 7 is a very good score,not mid and 7.5 is great score,not mid either.
@@marvel22-mf1js Meh. I see 7 or 7.5 as decent, 8 as good, 9 as great, and 10 as perfect. Opinions differ.
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Peacemaker season 1 and the the suicide squad are not canon to the dcu. In the dcu similar events mention in dceu past projects will be canon.
@@marvel22-mf1js James Gunn has already gone on record to say Peacemaker S1 is canon except for the justice league pop-in. And Peacemaker is very much canon to The Suicide Squad. The confusion arising from all that is EXACTLY why they should’ve just done a full and clean reboot on the DCEU.
Phase 4 and 5 did not failed. In fact phase 4 made more money then phase 1 and 2. Most of phase 4 and 5 movies were hits by the way.
@@marvel22-mf1js Well, I don’t know about you; but doing Ant-Man 3 and The Marvels and Dr. Strange 2 etc. performances is a new way to succeed to me.
I don’t think it’s A mistake at all. It shows the world that we aren’t the old DCEU and we aren’t marvel. It’s random and that how universe should be. Plus the first two episodes kicked ass.
How does it definitely show that it isn't the old DCEU when it's heavily predicated upon an intricate understanding of the old DCEU?
Technically it started with the suicide squad and peacemaker and the documentary about Christopher reeves
And that's part of the EXACT problem. This "new universe" technically STARTED with projects from an old one.
I think starting with Creature Commandos is more of a practical decision. The project was ready to be watched much earlier than Superman, and it also helps filling the void of DCU contents. There is a 1 year 6 months gap between Aquaman 2, last DCEU content and Superman, first DCU movie. In this modern culture of searching for quick self-gratification, 'having a little snack' like Creature Commandos should be great to keep audiences interested.
You can start your universe by throwing a smaller party, like Creature Commandos. You can also start by throwing a freaking carnival, like Superman. It's more like opening a business, and deciding whether to start with soft opening vs grand opening. Either way, everyone knows Superman is going to be much more profitable than Creature Commandos, and there's nothing anyone can do to change that.
And does it work? Yeah, it works.
There's a very simple way to give the audience a taste while not making a bad first showing for the brand. And that is to START IT WITH A TACTICALLY SOUNDER SHOW.
Great video. Subscribed. Turn down the music volume next time tho
😂🤣😂 I hear you...
You show lack of knowledge, not just of the new DCU and it's structure, but of the individual project too. It's impressive how bad this is.
That was the only script that was available to be released.
They need to release something by this year, and they only have one option, as i the script was already completed before James gunn took longer.
@@Muhsin-ox1vj And the very fact that they’re even IN that position is yet one more indicator of this company’s problem(s).
Quality over quantity. If it isn't that good, it's better not to release anything until something better comes along. It's better than making suicide squad type film again for the 3rd time
@@fimmyf bro released one animated show that was ready as an appetiser. What’s quantity over quality about that?
Dude seriously this is blown out of proportion. The first two episodes have entertaining characters, expected humour, great action. The world building is slowly moving, we all knew what to expect from this show. Why are you people bashing on it for that ? This feels like click bait barely any substance to your points
@@fimmyf But better STILL would've been NOT MAKING THE SERIES AT ALL.
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Thank god I don’t have Max. I knew this show was going to be terrible. The DCU sucks already. This is basically Velma 2.0. This is not how you start a cinematic universe. They need to fire both David Zaslav and James Gunn.
@@cartooncentral263 I’m willing to wait for Superman before I make FINAL decisions. But no, the signs are NOT looking good as of now.
…depends. The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are Gunn’s pride and joy and this show starts the new Universe off with them. I actually rewatched Peacemaker because of this show….
@@jamesstewart8376 Which, I’m sure, is exactly what Gunn wants. DCU be darned.
I didn't think it was really important for you to watch season 1 of peacemaker unless you wanted to watch it?
@@RacerMcJack Unfortunately, it now is (because of how all these projects are basically extensions of the Peacemakerverse).
@@fred_flinstone8 barely ,
I mean I didn't have to (I'm not some smart individual)...
BUT At absolute maximum you'd need to watch a recap .
But not the entire show to get what's happening
@@RacerMcJack Yeah, that's my whole point. It's a misstep for WBD to START a new universe with content that cannot be fully understood WITHOUT exposure to the previous universe's content.
The show was the garbage
Watch Tom & Jerry than this garbage cartoon, worst cartoon ever
It’s like an appetizer that you try in a restaurant and then you send it back because it was nowhere near as good as advertised on the menu. In other words and to your point, terrible way to launch a new cinematic universe.
Yep.
CC is soft corn and potentially worse, and a very niche project. Not a way to start a cinematic universe for the general audience. And Superman doesn't look good. WBD should have stayed the course and made MOS 2 and let the other 4 films they threw under the bus be released as intended and not chopped up by Gunn, and THEN looked to see if they needed to reboot (They really wouldn't have).
Killing those last 4 films, screwing Cavill, and lying to the fans was not a good business move. WBD stock tanked that day and hasn't recovered.
Hard to argue with that.
Feels like the script for this video was written weeks before Creature Commandos even came out. You'd made up your mind you disliked it long ago. Smh. This video is a sponsored hit. Sponsored by the SnyderCult and all the hate they stand for
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@@fred_flinstone8 Believe me, I scrolled through all your videos before making that comment
It feels loke the suicide squad all over again and rated r marvel movie. I just don't care for this new DCU
Hard to argue with you.
I saw the first two episodes. I was bored.
You and me both.
Snyder fans so I automatically think less of you
1. Not a Snyder fan so much as a DC ENTERTAINMENT fan and a teller of truth.
2. Then watch something/someone else.
The show was trash and superman will flop
Show was mid at best. Superman, I'm willing to wait for the movie to come out before I make final judgments on its quality.
I see your point but I disagree; you have to remember this universe is already in progression it’s already started so you have to understand it’s not gonna be nothing like the MCU.
Again creatures commandos is not a bad show ; it’s actually good, not my favorite but good.
I will say this is a DC fan , like you I would’ve started different but I can see how this also can work.
And to all DC fans we don’t know how the Superman movie will be but if we are a DC fan we definitely don’t want it to flop we need to hope for the best and see what reality shows .
I wouldn't be so annoyed by Snyder riders if they actually provided arguments behind their outrage.
@andraw4002 What
I got about 1 minute and 42 seconds into Creature Commandos before turning it off
Unfortunately, those of us who review these things don't have that luxury. 😵💫
Wasting Circe who comes from a A list Dc property like Wonder woman on a c list properry like creatures commando is stupid. Not to mention that weirdo james gunn creepy obssesion over a crapy character like damien wayne