The sounds on this are unique to the P.O. collection. The sequencer seems weird if you’re coming from a gen 2 or above, but it gets the job done. If you approach it as a rhythm instrument, more so than melodic, it makes more sense. I sometimes use it to add a sparse pulse behind an ambient drone. It’s application is limited, but I like it for being so.
I'm further in the video, you dislike the drum kit ? Aww man, I absolutely love it ! I agree that the actual drums are limited, but trust me pair it with a PO-12 or Office or Po32, and let them take care of the drums and the Sub of all the ear candy and you'l see that they're terrific in a "adding interesting things to a drum kit" way :D The po-14 really can't be a standalone PO. Drums aren't there, and bass only gets a little boring. The Po-12 however is actually quite good being alone ^^
Yeah haha the reason I disliked it is because you almost have to pair it up with another PO. I'd imagine I'll like it quite a bit more once I get some "normal" drums under those bass tones though. Thanks for watching as always!
I love the Sub! Never use it for Drums, just Bass Lines. It has gnarly base, the FX and the * buttons both do separate effects that can be applied, and they can overlap! First Gen; I have the Sub and the Rhythm, and they are different to later models in many ways, they are limited to how many sequences you can chain together compared to the later models, only 16 if memory serves? I will say that both of the Gen 1 POs I own are prone to distortion, especially if left for a while, but popping the battery out and in sorts this out, refreshing the sound without losing the sequence. Using the Sub, the K.O. And the Rhythm/Tonic together I’ve made some fun improvised Techno, in better hands (better than mine!) these little beauties are really good at what they do.
I'd like to pick one up eventually, but since I already have the Tonic (I know they're completely different machines) it's not high on my list haha. Thanks for watching!
I bought this po bc I didn't like bass sounds on the Ko. But it's very difficult sequence something you have in mind, its more for random things. The sounds are very unique as a synth, that's good. Also if you keep pressing a note in the sequencer you can modify the length of the note with the B knob, bc is hard to make it on live sequencing
I keep the sub on my desk just to noodle with while I'm at work. I don't really use it for music production, more as a toy to clear my head for a few minutes while I work on some problem. I like to program in a drum beat and then live play over the top of it for a little jam and then it goes back in the drawer when I'm done.
My first PO was the 16 Factory (I've since gotten three others- the Office, KO, and Speak). Yeah, it's limited compared to later generations but it's great for melodic synth leads. I don't know if this is the same on the 14, but the "key" button activates punch-in arpeggio effects. Along with the "style" effects, that's a total of 32 various punch-ins, which really is a lot of performative options.
Years ago, when the Gen 1s were new, a friend (who had a lot more disposable income) lent me his Pocket Operator. I couldn't remember until now whether it was a -14 or a -16, but listening to this, I think it was a -14. I remember being quite impressed by how much was crammed into the thing.
My biggest problem with the gen 1 POs is the very limited pattern chaining. You can only chain 16 patterns! I didn't discover this limitation until I tried to make a song while sync connecting my PO12 to my PO20. I was thinking I messed up my chaining because the sound was all wrong. A little research and I figured it out (interestingly, the PO20 can chain 128 patterns!) Otherwise, I love the simplicity and rawness of the gen 1 POs. The PO12 is a beast!
Yeah that's a little rough haha. I'll definitely be sampling the PO-14 into my PO-33 or PO-133 for the album just so I can get around that 16 pattern limitation. Thanks for watching!
I bought the Rhythm and loved it. I bought the Factory and immediately regretted it. I bought this one and felt it works best when paired with a more advanced PO. This week, though, I had a breakthrough with the Factory and it made me reassess its abilities. I hope to have the same experience with the Sub. Funny, you must have given yours to Oliver before I started watching with regularity bc I always thought it funny you didn't have one🤷♂️
Its one of my favorites for jamming with friends without music knowledge. I play a rumble kick on Syntakt and use the effects on the PO randomly to get amazing rhythms 🤯
Hey FB, I own a PO33 and PO14 and like you say, the difference between the generation 3 and 1 sequencing is jarring. I struggle to pick up the PO14 purely because of the weird quirks that I can't quite figure out. For example, any automation on the patterns seems to be impossible to clear without going through the lengthy process of overdubbing it all, and even then it's inaccurate as hell. Would love some advice or tips to get the hang of it if anyone has any!
Yes, the sounds are excellent on the sub, I think I told you before I have my series running through a digitech droptune so everything is in C until I change it which may be why my opinion of this little gem is higher than yours. Jus my opinion! I’ve come up with some legitimate great jazz sequences and the Sub is incredible with a little tweaking sounds like a fretless! Peace
I love the sub, it's a great PO (in my opinion - I like the bassline sound generation and effects: I've not got a OP-1 or OP-Z and this little unit can craft some awesome basslines!
Po 14 sub, Some amazing sound, a few hard to incorporate in a track, very tedious workflow with a few bugs in my experience which breaks my experience. If it had the sounds, but the ease of the Po-33. Id like it ! But some pattern chaining bugs, and how complicated it is to me to enter a melody and FX recording, it breaks it to me :/ Teenage engineering, if you make a remake, I would love it! PO : 12, other than the pattern chaining quirks, amazingly fun and easy to use :D Highly recommend you get one !
My favorite approach is to pair the PO Sub with another PO. First I program a catchy bass groove with the Sub, then I switch over to the other PO for everything else. No other PO does bass quite like the Sub!
I have a PO 16 and PO 33 but I have a PO 14 coming and this makes me really excited this can make some really neat noises. I also have an arcade coming that I got cheap with a broken speaker, tho I plan to just sync through another PO.
This was my first pocket op as well. I tried to sell it after I got the arcade. Somehow it makes it's way into my set up every time. There's always a happy accident moment I have with the sub.
@@FreeBeat I try to lay my notes down then I'll go and choose tone and note length. Then I'll press play and mess with the sequence after it's all laid down. Agreed its the most odd PO to mess with.
Thanks for making stuff! Been a huge help learning more about the POs! I gotta ask, I've been considering getting a sub to pair with the KO, love the sounds but wondering if it's instead worth getting into the chiptune side of things with the arcade or megman! Would be fun to pair with LSDJ! Do you have any recommendations? Either with those POs mentioned or any other? :0 In either case all the best! Thanks again with everything! ♥️
I suppose it really depends on how much you like chiptune haha. The sub would pair really well with the KO, as it sounds awesome but the sequencer is rough to use. But the Arcade or Megaman would probably be a lot of fun with LSDJ, especially with a PO-33. You'll have fun either way :)
@@FreeBeat super appreciate it! Think I might go for the MegaMan ....I don't know why but I feel compelled to try and make some 8-bit jazz covers haha! Thanks again with everything! Have an amazing day!
If you are on melody sound Be in writemode and press long the note of your sequence (1-16) and turn knob b or a while you holding the note You can change the length of your note But i really really really want to know is the po14 sub (looks pretty but sounds shitty) can do acid Really Can it do acid Acid sounds shit so maybe But i never found somebody who do a kinda acid bassline on the sub
@@FreeBeat yes i found it also 1 year ago I searched exactly for 1 year (covid stretch the time) for a acid techno demo But still Its only 1 video ruclips.net/video/YOmTGk_83sE/видео.html The other videos are bot really acid
5:10 "Yeah all the sounds are terrific"
*Next sound is a hellish digital shriek*
I was hoping someone would catch that lol
And I loved it.
The Sub is my favorite. Love it!
The sounds on this are unique to the P.O. collection. The sequencer seems weird if you’re coming from a gen 2 or above, but it gets the job done. If you approach it as a rhythm instrument, more so than melodic, it makes more sense. I sometimes use it to add a sparse pulse behind an ambient drone. It’s application is limited, but I like it for being so.
I love the Rhythm! The drum sounds are soo punchy and it's so fun to always carry around, u should get one haha
I probably will some day, I've just been holding off since I already have the Tonic haha. Thanks for watching :)
I'm further in the video, you dislike the drum kit ? Aww man, I absolutely love it !
I agree that the actual drums are limited, but trust me pair it with a PO-12 or Office or Po32, and let them take care of the drums and the Sub of all the ear candy and you'l see that they're terrific in a "adding interesting things to a drum kit" way :D
The po-14 really can't be a standalone PO. Drums aren't there, and bass only gets a little boring.
The Po-12 however is actually quite good being alone ^^
Yeah haha the reason I disliked it is because you almost have to pair it up with another PO. I'd imagine I'll like it quite a bit more once I get some "normal" drums under those bass tones though. Thanks for watching as always!
I bought the 12 first. It’s great . The Sub and the 12 are good together
Nice! I'd imagine a proper drum machine really elevates the PO-14. Thanks for watching :)
I love the Sub! Never use it for Drums, just Bass Lines.
It has gnarly base, the FX and the * buttons both do separate effects that can be applied, and they can overlap!
First Gen; I have the Sub and the Rhythm, and they are different to later models in many ways, they are limited to how many sequences you can chain together compared to the later models, only 16 if memory serves?
I will say that both of the Gen 1 POs I own are prone to distortion, especially if left for a while, but popping the battery out and in sorts this out, refreshing the sound without losing the sequence.
Using the Sub, the K.O. And the Rhythm/Tonic together I’ve made some fun improvised Techno, in better hands (better than mine!) these little beauties are really good at what they do.
It was my least po as well but it's actually pretty cool. It adds so much character combined with other po's.
Yeah, I'm pretty excited to start pairing it with the other PO's!
I’m surprised to hear you don’t own the rhythm!! It’s a solid Drum machine.
I'd like to pick one up eventually, but since I already have the Tonic (I know they're completely different machines) it's not high on my list haha. Thanks for watching!
I bought this po bc I didn't like bass sounds on the Ko. But it's very difficult sequence something you have in mind, its more for random things. The sounds are very unique as a synth, that's good. Also if you keep pressing a note in the sequencer you can modify the length of the note with the B knob, bc is hard to make it on live sequencing
Yeah I wish the gen 1 sequencer was a little more sophisticated, but I'm still excited to pair the PO-14 up with my other PO's. Thanks for watching!
And I just paid $40 more than you, just a couple days ago, this will be my sixth PO.
Definitely going to go well with my current set.
At the end of the day, if you love it than that's all that matters!
Dang I don't know why you don't like it. I Totally love this pocket operator and it makes my sequences and stuff so much better.
I keep the sub on my desk just to noodle with while I'm at work. I don't really use it for music production, more as a toy to clear my head for a few minutes while I work on some problem. I like to program in a drum beat and then live play over the top of it for a little jam and then it goes back in the drawer when I'm done.
That sounds exactly like what my friend was using it for haha. The Pocket Operators are so good at that, instantly inspirational!
I Love the sub. With it, I make endless VERY fat, heavy, dark, cool and inspiring beats.
Yeah it can get pretty big!
My first PO was the 16 Factory (I've since gotten three others- the Office, KO, and Speak). Yeah, it's limited compared to later generations but it's great for melodic synth leads. I don't know if this is the same on the 14, but the "key" button activates punch-in arpeggio effects. Along with the "style" effects, that's a total of 32 various punch-ins, which really is a lot of performative options.
Yeah, that's what it does on the PO-14 as well. Pretty fun for live playing. Thanks for watching :)
Love them all, they are like my little babies .
I love PO14! You'd def need to get PO12 as it is the best drum machine for the price ^)
Yeah, I don't have the PO-12 but I have the PO-32, can't wait to pair these two up!
Very cool like a moog sound
I got PO14 teamed up with PO33 and they work really great together
Yeah that's what I'm gonna be doing while I work on my PO album I think. Thanks for watching!
Years ago, when the Gen 1s were new, a friend (who had a lot more disposable income) lent me his Pocket Operator. I couldn't remember until now whether it was a -14 or a -16, but listening to this, I think it was a -14. I remember being quite impressed by how much was crammed into the thing.
Thanks for sharing!
I think I have agreed with you on all things till now.. I really like the 14 sub!
The sounds are awesome! I just wish the sequencer was better haha. Thanks for watching :)
My biggest problem with the gen 1 POs is the very limited pattern chaining. You can only chain 16 patterns! I didn't discover this limitation until I tried to make a song while sync connecting my PO12 to my PO20. I was thinking I messed up my chaining because the sound was all wrong. A little research and I figured it out (interestingly, the PO20 can chain 128 patterns!) Otherwise, I love the simplicity and rawness of the gen 1 POs. The PO12 is a beast!
Yeah that's a little rough haha. I'll definitely be sampling the PO-14 into my PO-33 or PO-133 for the album just so I can get around that 16 pattern limitation. Thanks for watching!
I bought the Rhythm and loved it. I bought the Factory and immediately regretted it. I bought this one and felt it works best when paired with a more advanced PO. This week, though, I had a breakthrough with the Factory and it made me reassess its abilities. I hope to have the same experience with the Sub.
Funny, you must have given yours to Oliver before I started watching with regularity bc I always thought it funny you didn't have one🤷♂️
Yeah haha, I think my last video on the sub came out in mid April of 2021. I'm excited to do some more revisiting!
Factory is great with NTS-1
Its one of my favorites for jamming with friends without music knowledge. I play a rumble kick on Syntakt and use the effects on the PO randomly to get amazing rhythms 🤯
Hey FB, I own a PO33 and PO14 and like you say, the difference between the generation 3 and 1 sequencing is jarring. I struggle to pick up the PO14 purely because of the weird quirks that I can't quite figure out. For example, any automation on the patterns seems to be impossible to clear without going through the lengthy process of overdubbing it all, and even then it's inaccurate as hell. Would love some advice or tips to get the hang of it if anyone has any!
Yeah, TE was very much still figuring the whole PO interface out in the first gen. I'd love a revamped version in the future! Thanks for watching :)
Your vids are great man! I've always loved the Sub, I think it's my second favourite behind the KO. Its grizzly!!
Thanks for watching!
Yes, the sounds are excellent on the sub, I think I told you before I have my series running through a digitech droptune so everything is in C until I change it which may be why my opinion of this little gem is higher than yours. Jus my opinion! I’ve come up with some legitimate great jazz sequences and the Sub is incredible with a little tweaking sounds like a fretless! Peace
That's awesome! I can't wait to start playing around with the sub in my down time and get to know it better.
I love the sub, it's a great PO (in my opinion - I like the bassline sound generation and effects: I've not got a OP-1 or OP-Z and this little unit can craft some awesome basslines!
Nice! I'm thinking I'll really start to appreciate it once I combine it with my other PO's for some better drums. Thanks for watching!
There seem to be a lot of cool sounds, I bet sampling into the OP-1 would be fun.
Oh yeah for sure, a lot of possibilities there!
Agreed wish it had the better Sequencer but I still love the sound out of it
Definitely!
@@FreeBeat fun to sample into mpc the po's
those bass sounds would really SLAP on a more versatile PO. but leave it to freebeat to make something great even with gear he doesn’t like
Yeah, imagine these sounds with the sequencer of the Megaman. That would be amazing! Thanks for watching :)
The Best ist the halftone-thing. ;P
Thanks for watching!
Po 14 sub, Some amazing sound, a few hard to incorporate in a track, very tedious workflow with a few bugs in my experience which breaks my experience.
If it had the sounds, but the ease of the Po-33. Id like it !
But some pattern chaining bugs, and how complicated it is to me to enter a melody and FX recording, it breaks it to me :/
Teenage engineering, if you make a remake, I would love it!
PO : 12, other than the pattern chaining quirks, amazingly fun and easy to use :D Highly recommend you get one !
Imagine next gen po the 3 first in one, pure gold
A remastered version of the first three PO's would be insane. Probably a day one purchase for me!
My favorite approach is to pair the PO Sub with another PO. First I program a catchy bass groove with the Sub, then I switch over to the other PO for everything else. No other PO does bass quite like the Sub!
Definitely agree!!
I'll have to give that a shot, thanks for watching!
I have a PO 16 and PO 33 but I have a PO 14 coming and this makes me really excited this can make some really neat noises. I also have an arcade coming that I got cheap with a broken speaker, tho I plan to just sync through another PO.
This was my first pocket op as well. I tried to sell it after I got the arcade. Somehow it makes it's way into my set up every time. There's always a happy accident moment I have with the sub.
Yeah I'm definitely coming around to it as well while working on my PO album. The sequencer is such a pain but the sounds are worth it!
@@FreeBeat I try to lay my notes down then I'll go and choose tone and note length. Then I'll press play and mess with the sequence after it's all laid down. Agreed its the most odd PO to mess with.
Thanks for making stuff! Been a huge help learning more about the POs! I gotta ask, I've been considering getting a sub to pair with the KO, love the sounds but wondering if it's instead worth getting into the chiptune side of things with the arcade or megman! Would be fun to pair with LSDJ! Do you have any recommendations? Either with those POs mentioned or any other? :0 In either case all the best! Thanks again with everything! ♥️
I suppose it really depends on how much you like chiptune haha. The sub would pair really well with the KO, as it sounds awesome but the sequencer is rough to use. But the Arcade or Megaman would probably be a lot of fun with LSDJ, especially with a PO-33. You'll have fun either way :)
@@FreeBeat super appreciate it! Think I might go for the MegaMan ....I don't know why but I feel compelled to try and make some 8-bit jazz covers haha! Thanks again with everything! Have an amazing day!
I find I can a bit more use out of the drum sounds if you turn knob A most of the way down (ccw).
I'll have to give that a shot, thanks!
If you are on melody sound
Be in writemode and press long the note of your sequence (1-16) and turn knob b or a while you holding the note
You can change the length of your note
But i really really really want to know is the po14 sub (looks pretty but sounds shitty) can do acid
Really
Can it do acid
Acid sounds shit so maybe
But i never found somebody who do a kinda acid bassline on the sub
I did a quick search here on YT for "PO-14 Acid" and found a bunch of awesome results!
@@FreeBeat yes i found it also
1 year ago
I searched exactly for 1 year (covid stretch the time) for a acid techno demo
But still
Its only 1 video
ruclips.net/video/YOmTGk_83sE/видео.html
The other videos are bot really acid