The real reason they don’t race at Oval’s like Daytona is the banking. They would be flat out through the turns and the Positive G-load would cause them to get light headed or blackout. And with the cars being able to go flat out you would probably see a lot of pack racing which Indy doesn’t want or need.
In 1959, shortly after the track opened in Daytona, the Sumar Special Streamline was testing this very concept. G-loads in the banking caused it to bottom out and the resulting crash killed the driver, Marshall Teague. Bill France, Sr. said no more and that was that. Could they run it today? Maybe...but the speeds would likely be close to 250mph and the safety of the fans and drivers would be questionable.
If the cockpit of the cars are modified to make it so that the drivers don't absorb the impact, then they should be a-okay. Remember NASCAR'S C.O.T. (Car of Tomorrow)? Now imagine those cars & their safety features built into the F1 car's chassis. They'd be a little slower, but considering how FAST they are, I'd say it'd be a small price to pay for the driver's safety.
The banking. The extreme speed combined with the G's from 31° of banking would cause drivers to black out. A CART race at Texas Motor Speedway was cancelled because drivers were "greying out". Also, the insane speeds would cause HORRIFIC crashes. Cars would be going into the catch fence. Remember Dan Wheldon and Tony Renna. The last time IndyCars DID race at Daytona was 1959; cars were hitting 180mph - in 1959 - and two drivers were killed.
It's not just the drivers, it's the fans. You go into a corner at 240 miles an hour and wreck, there's no way you're going to keep all that damage on the track.
@@bullainsworth3130 yes, they go into the corner at Indianapolis at those speeds. However, at a higher banked racetrack, your entry speeds into the corners are even higher. And you don't let off. Look what happened at texas. Banked race tracks will allow too much speed for Indy cars. That's what AJ foyt told us back in the late sixties.
I still have an original Play Station, that I used to run the PPG Indycar World Series on. You could run the whole series, or pick a track to run however many laps you wanted. My favorite was the full 500 miles at MIS. Once you got into a rhythm, you could run laps in the mid 240's. By the time you ran all 500 miles, you were worn out mentally. It was great fun.
The IndyCar PS1 game remains one of my all time PS platform games. There is supposed to be a new version for the PS5 next year, it was supposed to release this year. I’d be thrilled if it’s as good as Assetto Corsa.
@@rickb2432 the Motorsport Games one is dead. iRacing now has the license but you'll have to wait till after NASCAR's 2025 game is near it's end of development for the possibility of news
@@charliesmith7942 Indycars exceed 230mph at Indianapolis. Could easily go faster at daytona which with the banking could cause drivers blacking out. And even if not, do you have any idea how dangerous an accident would be at those sustained speeds?
It'd be sweet if the cars always landed, spun like that, and at the end, pop right back over to do it all over again. Hellava lot less body damage, that's for sure.
Indycar once had scheduled a race at Talladega, which has more or less identical design to Daytona, but it was eventually cancelled after they did track testing a few months before and discovered that it was so dangerous, that any crash that would happen in the race would lead to the certain death of at least some of the drivers. The amount of banking at talladega and daytona is such that it's like they're not even turning left, but instead are driving upwards. They of course are still turning left but the point is the fact it's angled so that it's more going uphill than it is going left (like at indianapolis which has no banking, so the left turns are completely left turns, no going upwards) makes it so they don't ever have to break and instead just keep going at full acceleration. Which is fine in a stock car when people are far better protected. But in an open wheel car it's just too dangerous, any contact with other cars, especially in pack racing, would lead to tons of cars being collected and almost certain death of drivers. Even today with the windshield thing indycars have where if the car flips upside down they don't land on their heads anymore, it'd still just be too dangerous. I do wish the opposite would happen though. For nascar to race at an indycar circuit, namely the oval track at Indianapolis. I know they didn't have great fan turnout, but few nascar races do anymore sadly. The brickyard 400 was completely unique on the nascar calendar because of how flat the track is unlike the ovals nascar usually race on. It required a whole different style of driving and different car set ups compared to something like daytona.
Ims has banking it just isn't much, and the drivers are pulling 4 lateral g's and 2 positive g's during each corner during the 500, it's nuts. But the banking at Daytona would likely have them pulling 6 or 7 positive g's, which is fighter pilot level. At that point if you mess up your breathing you pass out and it's a guaranteed bad day for pretty much everyone in the vicinity, crowd included
They did race there and it was a huge disaster. I don’t remember the story, but I think there were several big crashes and one or two drivers were killed.
Also if anaccident the carbon fiber debris would take an extensive cleanup (time wise) . This is the reason they stopped doing a race at Dover as the long yellow flags left little time for racing .
I am more curious why such large racing facilities as Daytona run so few events annually and remain relatively dormant otherwise. They could configure a suitable 3/8 to half mile course for a promoter to hold monthly, it not weekly, Saturday night events for the local asphalt short track racers when cup activity isn't scheduled. Of course that won't fill the stands, but could generate additional cash flow to the owners and be a win-win for their community, especially as more short tracks get turned into housing or commercial developments.
They rent the track out. You might find a regular car test running there. Say Ford want to see how a Fiesta acts after 500, 1000 miles. They have people get behind the wheel and drive at 55mph for 500 miles or whatever they want to test. Tire companies may test some regular road tires or some rich guys rent the track for a day so they can run their private cars there. There are some bike races there sometimes. It generates other revenue that is not publicized. Crowds are expensive to insure so unless there is a substantial profit, they aren't going to run something there that isn't cost effective.
The fact is that any race series CAN rent the track and open it to the public and race almost every weekend if they want, but the fees for the track are way too high for most circuits (or any amateur setup). The track has to make sure it's in good, operating order before and, more importantly, after it's used, fixing all issues, cleaning the track and the stands/washrooms/concessions etc. The whole thing costs a small fortune to operate and @kowalski3769 is right - the insurance for a public event (on top of normal track insurance) is probably the biggest, single expense of all.
They do run Events there yeat round. And some big name ones at that. And if you think a 3/8 short track would provide extra cashflow for NASCAR with a Track like Daytona its a Drop in the Bucket. Short tracks dont make money really
When the indy cars first attempted to run at Texas over 20 years ago, the race was cancelled because the G forces were so high that it caused a very serious possibility of drivers losing consciousness. Daytona is a mile longer, higher banking and no reason to ever lift. Besides the obvious reason, secondary problems could easily surface in fatigue of components, including tires.
@@PhotonBread Yeah i agree thats why i said Daytona of some Sort idk how theyd configure it but itd be cool. Roval at Charlotte could work wonders IMO. Think of a weekend where Nascar goes to the Indy GP weekend again followed by Indycar joining Nascar at one of its marquee tracks at the Roval for the weekend I think thatd be something worth looking into. the banking at Charlotte isnt far off what they Already have run Las Vegas,Texas and Charlotte are all identical so i think it would be a fun one to see. Likely will never happen but would love to see.
@@DSmith1997 I live in Indy and I’m excited to go to the Trucks at IRP on Friday, Indy and Xfinity Saturday, and NASCAR Sunday. I would be willing to travel to Charlotte 100% to see that. I think Indy could handle Charlotte. Might be a bit rough though, I’ve heard it’s become quite abrasive on the cars
@@PhotonBread They could safely run at Daytona with the road kit, which would top out at a little over 200 MPH and take longer to get to that speed. However, that probably won't happen anyway since NASCAR owns the track.
Probably the number one reason why Indy car won’t race Daytona is the danger of it. If there were to be a wreck going 240 mph plus, especially a wreck that caused a head on collision to the wall or flying into the catch fence, the chances of death are much much greater.
I may to be mistaken, but I guess the only way for the IndyCar Series run at Daytona it would be using the same road course track that is used at 24 Hours of Daytona. I guess that G force wouldn't so strong over drivers. A IndyCar racing machine running on the Daytona's oval track would be a madness and a lot dangerous.
Nice Iracing demo, but I'm pretty sure irl everything but the driver cockpit would be obliterated and the driver lucky to be alive.... The sppeds indycar carries well over 200mph Nascar barely gets to 200mph anymore with restrictor plates and for good reason otherwise the same thing would happen...
No way. Daytona is longer corner than Texas or Atlanta. Would be easier on tires and suspension. The sharper the corner ( like Bristol) would be way more taxing on the cars
Daytona and Talladega give those badass cars an opportunity to go TOO DAMN FAST !.. that's why. Stock cars would be too fast too, but they are artificially slowed down by the rules.
I believe Indycar drivers would pass out similar to Texas years ago. I did the RP driving experience at Daytona and sadly I only got to a little over 150 at end of backstretch BUT when you hit the banking in the corners you can feel your ass get planted down into the seat and I was below 150 so surely the G's are multiplied at higher speeds.
Above average person can take 7+ g's in loading up. Race drivers FAR exceed this. The problem was with fatigue and that schmo, Eddie Cheever running his mouth about that whichm apparently, HE couldn't withstand?
@@warrenholmes3311 Look up Mark Donahue setting the world record for closed circuit land speed. He did it at Talladega which is very similar in design and amount of banking as Daytona. He said at those speeds, you begin to black out, you forget where you are and what you're doing, and it takes a miracle to be able to hold on and not crash because of it, the G-Forces involved are just that high. And remember, Mark Donahue was an F1 driver, so he already dealt with high g-forces for his day job, he was very used to it, yet even for him these speeds and the g-forces involved made him start to black out. You need to be an air force jet pilot, or an astronaut, to be able to handle these kinds of g-forces, and even then it takes years of training in those spinning g-force machines.
The banking is there - and at Talladega - to help the cup cars maintain speed while turning with their minimal comparative downforce. IndyCars have no such issue and could easily take those turns flat out. At that point, the constant G load would likely cause what happened at TMS with the drivers starting to black out
They tried in 1959 but because of several factors low attendance, lost money, high speeds, and George Amick's death, apart of testing in 2006 and 2007 on the motorcycle course, they never returned to Daytona. Plus USAC considered going to Talladega in 1980 but that race got cancelled.
Why not have the drivers control the cars by remote, from the safety of racing simulators? The only issue would be fan safety, but they could sign wavers before going trackside.
The actual reason is that open wheel racing isn’t possible when cars often side swipe each other as part of the racing. (Rubber to rubber contact creates an instant flip up so would ultimately be deadly)..
Same reason they only used a quarter of Indy's oval. G forces are far too high for the pilot to go flat out on a full oval. Also forget Daytona, send them to Talladega :D
Indy car used to race at MIS in MI on its high banking for a number of years. There were a number of bad crashes there, but they still held the race there. The official reason for ending it there was lack of attendance.
Oh yes it is high banked. With the Porsche club, I have done more than a few laps at that track. I did the turns at about 140mph never slowing down for the turn. I would imagine Daytona may have a higher banking, but MIS is definitely pretty high.
Well seeing how they hit close to 240 at indy while Nascar at its peak was hitting 200 and the Fact the car is 1/10th the weight with 10x the Downforce it would easily Gap the NASCAR by a mile. Even unrestricted max Power The nest you can get from a NASCAR is 255 mph. Indy is closer to 300 unrestricted
So what is the reason then? All I saw was some guy spinning out of a corner which happens anywhere, even at Indy itself. If you are going to make videos like this at least either provide some commentary, subtitles or an explanation in the description!
title should be changed to "driver crashes at Daytona because lack of skill", they tested racing at Daytona drivers complained of getting dizzy due to the amount of g-force generated by the cars, dont think you want cars pack racing and a driver passes out, open wheel cars run totally diffrent when it comes to G-forces than closed wheel cars, F1 & Indy Car have way higher G-forces than other motor sports, running super big banks with high g-force can also lead to tyre blow outs happening a lot more.
Indycar did some kind of running at Daytona a few years ago. Nothing official, trying to check out the road course, and they found the transitions between the apron and the backing were too severe for the cars, and would cause too many problems in a race.
just say at maybe at 250 mph if a few cars touch wheels, they may be able to clear the catch fence when they go airborne.GOD help the thousands in the stands when it hits them.if just a 5 pound part hits you at 200+ mph, its probably a fatality.memories of the 1955 le mans disaster.DONT NEED THAT AGAIN.
How in the world did this video get 514,000 views ? If I knew doing 1 lap around Daytona on iRacing and then wrecking would get half a million views then I would have uploaded one 15 years ago.
USAC tried in the 50s or 60s. A wreck killed spectators, if I'm recalling correctly, and they cancelled the race in the middle of the event weekend and haven't been back.
The driver should have never gotten down to the yellow lines. The pitch of the corner is gone, and that portion of the track is dead flat. That transition is what got the car loose. Had he stayed above those twin yellow lines this would not have happened.
The real reason they don’t race at Oval’s like Daytona is the banking. They would be flat out through the turns and the Positive G-load would cause them to get light headed or blackout. And with the cars being able to go flat out you would probably see a lot of pack racing which Indy doesn’t want or need.
What? You mean to tell me it's not because of a crash in a video game made decades after the decision to not race there was made?
@@theivory1 Nothing to do with a video game.
Yep. Already happened once at Texas with CART.
@@theivory1Lmao.. the amount of people taking this seriously cracks me up
@@theabsolutedrive you missed the joke man
In 1959, shortly after the track opened in Daytona, the Sumar Special Streamline was testing this very concept. G-loads in the banking caused it to bottom out and the resulting crash killed the driver, Marshall Teague. Bill France, Sr. said no more and that was that. Could they run it today? Maybe...but the speeds would likely be close to 250mph and the safety of the fans and drivers would be questionable.
Also heavily reinforce the cars so that if they eventually crash, they don't immediately DISINTEGRATE.
@@captainfordo3978But then the driver absorbs all that impact.
If the cockpit of the cars are modified to make it so that the drivers don't absorb the impact, then they should be a-okay. Remember NASCAR'S C.O.T. (Car of Tomorrow)? Now imagine those cars & their safety features built into the F1 car's chassis. They'd be a little slower, but considering how FAST they are, I'd say it'd be a small price to pay for the driver's safety.
Restrictors to slow them down to about 195 would solve that issue. Cup cars run restrictor plates to this day at Daytona and Talladega
@rdsii64 Yeah but then they'd have pack racing and another deadly disaster like Las Vegas where Wheldon got killed.
The banking. The extreme speed combined with the G's from 31° of banking would cause drivers to black out. A CART race at Texas Motor Speedway was cancelled because drivers were "greying out". Also, the insane speeds would cause HORRIFIC crashes. Cars would be going into the catch fence. Remember Dan Wheldon and Tony Renna. The last time IndyCars DID race at Daytona was 1959; cars were hitting 180mph - in 1959 - and two drivers were killed.
I was going to point that out but you beat me to it
Got all the way to the track for the cancel that day
It's not just the drivers, it's the fans. You go into a corner at 240 miles an hour and wreck, there's no way you're going to keep all that damage on the track.
They already enter corners at Indianapolis at over 240. It’s the banking that’s the issue.
@@bullainsworth3130 yes, they go into the corner at Indianapolis at those speeds. However, at a higher banked racetrack, your entry speeds into the corners are even higher. And you don't let off. Look what happened at texas. Banked race tracks will allow too much speed for Indy cars. That's what AJ foyt told us back in the late sixties.
They could put the fans ( all 3 thousand of them) in the infield
@@russellcurrie6099 😂
I still have an original Play Station, that I used to run the PPG Indycar World Series on. You could run the whole series, or pick a track to run however many laps you wanted. My favorite was the full 500 miles at MIS. Once you got into a rhythm, you could run laps in the mid 240's. By the time you ran all 500 miles, you were worn out mentally. It was great fun.
Nothing to do with a video game.
The IndyCar PS1 game remains one of my all time PS platform games.
There is supposed to be a new version for the PS5 next year, it was supposed to release this year.
I’d be thrilled if it’s as good as Assetto Corsa.
@@rickb2432 Doesn't seem like it's coming out, hopefully iRacing can pick up the license again and make a console game.
@@GageHeibeck we can hope.
@@rickb2432 the Motorsport Games one is dead. iRacing now has the license but you'll have to wait till after NASCAR's 2025 game is near it's end of development for the possibility of news
G-forces in the banking would get high enough to cause drivers to black out. Had this problem at Texas.
Not at Daytona. Not as sharp of a corner
@@charliesmith7942 Still 31 degrees of banking. Speeds could easily exceed 240-250mph. Would for sure cause driver's to black out.
@@ceeinfiniti1389 nascars did 220 mph back in the 80s before restricotor plates
@@charliesmith7942 Indycars exceed 230mph at Indianapolis. Could easily go faster at daytona which with the banking could cause drivers blacking out. And even if not, do you have any idea how dangerous an accident would be at those sustained speeds?
The IRL drivers were fine at TMS. It was CART's more powerful (significantly faster) Champ Cars whose drivers that had the problems.
I thought this was REAL footage until I saw the car pop itself back up 😂
"it's still real to me dammit!" :)
Plus the car didn't break apart. Carbon fiber breaks apart to reduce the impact to the driver.
It'd be sweet if the cars always landed, spun like that, and at the end, pop right back over to do it all over again. Hellava lot less body damage, that's for sure.
They should race the road course instead
Indycar once had scheduled a race at Talladega, which has more or less identical design to Daytona, but it was eventually cancelled after they did track testing a few months before and discovered that it was so dangerous, that any crash that would happen in the race would lead to the certain death of at least some of the drivers.
The amount of banking at talladega and daytona is such that it's like they're not even turning left, but instead are driving upwards. They of course are still turning left but the point is the fact it's angled so that it's more going uphill than it is going left (like at indianapolis which has no banking, so the left turns are completely left turns, no going upwards) makes it so they don't ever have to break and instead just keep going at full acceleration. Which is fine in a stock car when people are far better protected. But in an open wheel car it's just too dangerous, any contact with other cars, especially in pack racing, would lead to tons of cars being collected and almost certain death of drivers. Even today with the windshield thing indycars have where if the car flips upside down they don't land on their heads anymore, it'd still just be too dangerous.
I do wish the opposite would happen though. For nascar to race at an indycar circuit, namely the oval track at Indianapolis. I know they didn't have great fan turnout, but few nascar races do anymore sadly. The brickyard 400 was completely unique on the nascar calendar because of how flat the track is unlike the ovals nascar usually race on. It required a whole different style of driving and different car set ups compared to something like daytona.
I think that was Daytona actually.
NASCAR attendance is up dramatically the past 2 seasons. I attended a sell out 2 weeks ago at Pocono. First sell out at Pocono since 1998.
@@Oz_Darkr1d3rWas there my self. A good race
Ims has banking it just isn't much, and the drivers are pulling 4 lateral g's and 2 positive g's during each corner during the 500, it's nuts. But the banking at Daytona would likely have them pulling 6 or 7 positive g's, which is fighter pilot level. At that point if you mess up your breathing you pass out and it's a guaranteed bad day for pretty much everyone in the vicinity, crowd included
@@Oz_Darkr1d3rIt was so packed. Cool as shit. Even Dale Jr said he hadn’t seen a track so packed for a long time
The IndyCar did a simulated lap in the 31-second bracket around the 2.5-mile tri-oval, and that translates to an average speed of over 290!
Ooooooooooooo I likeee 290
Almost thought this was real until that last bounce at the end
Just imagine a Indy calendar with Indianapolis 500 and Daytona 500
IndyCar did race at Daytona back in the sixties. They were not doing 250 mph but they were there.
They did race there and it was a huge disaster. I don’t remember the story, but I think there were several big crashes and one or two drivers were killed.
It was 1959, one race, driver George Amick was killed, they never returned.
It’s probably more a speed and pack racing concern for accident into catch fence. They probably would be doing high 240’s or 250’s
I think the high banking would also be a big concern at those speeds
The G loads on the drivers would be way too high, like what happened at Texas many years ago where the drivers were starting to pass out.
Also if anaccident the carbon fiber debris would take an extensive cleanup (time wise) . This is the reason they stopped doing a race at Dover as the long yellow flags left little time for racing .
More like 270 or 80
I am more curious why such large racing facilities as Daytona run so few events annually and remain relatively dormant otherwise. They could configure a suitable 3/8 to half mile course for a promoter to hold monthly, it not weekly, Saturday night events for the local asphalt short track racers when cup activity isn't scheduled. Of course that won't fill the stands, but could generate additional cash flow to the owners and be a win-win for their community, especially as more short tracks get turned into housing or commercial developments.
They rent the track out. You might find a regular car test running there. Say Ford want to see how a Fiesta acts after 500, 1000 miles. They have people get behind the wheel and drive at 55mph for 500 miles or whatever they want to test. Tire companies may test some regular road tires or some rich guys rent the track for a day so they can run their private cars there. There are some bike races there sometimes. It generates other revenue that is not publicized. Crowds are expensive to insure so unless there is a substantial profit, they aren't going to run something there that isn't cost effective.
The fact is that any race series CAN rent the track and open it to the public and race almost every weekend if they want, but the fees for the track are way too high for most circuits (or any amateur setup). The track has to make sure it's in good, operating order before and, more importantly, after it's used, fixing all issues, cleaning the track and the stands/washrooms/concessions etc. The whole thing costs a small fortune to operate and @kowalski3769 is right - the insurance for a public event (on top of normal track insurance) is probably the biggest, single expense of all.
They do run Events there yeat round. And some big name ones at that. And if you think a 3/8 short track would provide extra cashflow for NASCAR with a Track like Daytona its a Drop in the Bucket. Short tracks dont make money really
Because there are several such tracks nearby...nascar sanctioned.
When the indy cars first attempted to run at Texas over 20 years ago, the race was cancelled because the G forces were so high that it caused a very serious possibility of drivers losing consciousness. Daytona is a mile longer, higher banking and no reason to ever lift. Besides the obvious reason, secondary problems could easily surface in fatigue of components, including tires.
Always thought seeing them race the Charlotte Roval would be cool even daytona Road course of some sort.
I think the problem with Roval layouts is they use too much of the oval for IndyCar. Daytona still uses most of the oval
@@PhotonBread Yeah i agree thats why i said Daytona of some Sort idk how theyd configure it but itd be cool. Roval at Charlotte could work wonders IMO. Think of a weekend where Nascar goes to the Indy GP weekend again followed by Indycar joining Nascar at one of its marquee tracks at the Roval for the weekend I think thatd be something worth looking into. the banking at Charlotte isnt far off what they Already have run Las Vegas,Texas and Charlotte are all identical so i think it would be a fun one to see. Likely will never happen but would love to see.
@@DSmith1997 I live in Indy and I’m excited to go to the Trucks at IRP on Friday, Indy and Xfinity Saturday, and NASCAR Sunday. I would be willing to travel to Charlotte 100% to see that. I think Indy could handle Charlotte. Might be a bit rough though, I’ve heard it’s become quite abrasive on the cars
@@PhotonBread oh i dont doubt it thats awesome IRP is a all time favorite for me glad its back. should be a hell of a weekend.
@@PhotonBread They could safely run at Daytona with the road kit, which would top out at a little over 200 MPH and take longer to get to that speed. However, that probably won't happen anyway since NASCAR owns the track.
😂😂😂😂 omfg I could watch these all day
Bruh, donkeygat93?? Lmao
I'm glad you like video games
you enjoy seeing violent ossibly fatal accidents? even in a game format? hmmmm you might wanna see someone about that
That car held together better than nascar cars.
LMAO...I was gonna comment on da same!
Only in iRacing
When it's a computer program cars don't break at all
That’s one well built race car.
I remember Indy cars at Richmond… like watching fish in a barrel…
The reason why the 1000cc superbikes don’t race Daytona now is the Tires don’t last. They run the 600 instead.
Probably the number one reason why Indy car won’t race Daytona is the danger of it. If there were to be a wreck going 240 mph plus, especially a wreck that caused a head on collision to the wall or flying into the catch fence, the chances of death are much much greater.
All 267 likes are from the engineering team that designed the roll bar.
You mean the software engineers?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I may to be mistaken, but I guess the only way for the IndyCar Series run at Daytona it would be using the same road course track that is used at 24 Hours of Daytona. I guess that G force wouldn't so strong over drivers.
A IndyCar racing machine running on the Daytona's oval track would be a madness and a lot dangerous.
Nice Iracing demo, but I'm pretty sure irl everything but the driver cockpit would be obliterated and the driver lucky to be alive....
The sppeds indycar carries well over 200mph
Nascar barely gets to 200mph anymore with restrictor plates and for good reason otherwise the same thing would happen...
AJ Foyt ran 245 at talledaga in either 67 or 68 in a closed course test.
No one ran at talladega in 67 or 68 because it had not been built then first race was fall 69 .he did make a run in the 70s
the lap record is 221.16 set by mark donohue in a porsche 917.
Those cars had neither the speed nor the doenforce of todats carts,And they were more fun to watch,i think.
Congratulations, you got 18 thumbs by clueless idiots.
AJ ran that speed in a specially designed Buick on a test track at a GM facility not at a racetrack
And you have to remember it’s only a game
The road course would be pretty fun to be fair
The drivers felt like they were in a centrifuge at that speed. They quit running in Texas because they were starting to black out.
They still run Texas.
No, they were feeling bodily fatigued. There were no blackouts. The g-loading wasn't high enough.
Indycars on the rolex 24 layout would go hard ngl
Before Rusty retired. He ran some test at Talladega. He was turning 230 MPH in the strights and 218 MPH in the turns. No restricter plates
They tried at Texas and had problems with drivers blacking out. Daytona would be even worse.
Nice to see you kept your head through all that and brought her in safe! Lol
The G on the drivers that’s why all the other mechanical stuff would be sorted out
Most sturdy t-cam in the world
😂😂😂😂😂
It landed upright after flipping over multiple times. Looks like it can run at Daytona to me! 😅
The crashing physics are amazing.
The right front suspension would fail because of the loading in the banking at 250 mph
Tire loads would probably go way outside spec too for long periods
No way. Daytona is longer corner than Texas or Atlanta. Would be easier on tires and suspension.
The sharper the corner ( like Bristol) would be way more taxing on the cars
I was expecting it to lift somewhere, honestly.
It took me a lap and a half to realize this was simulated. The graphics are that good!
You should visit a doctor and get your eyes checked asap
@@philipplutki You should visit a gun store and do humanity a favour, chucklefuck.
The way the driver balanced the car on top of his head at 1:02...impressive.
Bros the type of person to make a 200 word essay into a 59,894 word essay 💀
Many years ago, CART tried to race Texas, when qualifing speeds hit 242 and the G-force exceed 4Gs they called the race off.
I was there. They were so insanely fast, and the drivers were complaining of blackouts.
1:00 *Proceeds To Play You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)
Of course they could. If Tom Cruise can downshift to 3rd in a stock and speed up to 400 mph they can race Indy Cars there.
Guess nobody has heard about the tire tests at Talladega with NASCAR and Goodyear, and Indy car and Firestone. Speeds pushing 240 and up
Luyendyck ran in excess of 239 at Indy on a practice lap. First turn trap speed was reported in excess of 250 mph.
@@warrenholmes3311😊😁😎. 🎉
Theyve had worse crashes than that at other ovals, this is a ridiculous video
I think that was the point 🤷♂️
That annoying mosquito sound is enough for me to ban them.
It could be an interesting experiment
Not a scratch on her. Well done.
Daytona and Talladega give those badass cars an opportunity to go TOO DAMN FAST !.. that's why. Stock cars would be too fast too, but they are artificially slowed down by the rules.
The car was "Brake Dancing" on his head.
I believe Indycar drivers would pass out similar to Texas years ago. I did the RP driving experience at Daytona and sadly I only got to a little over 150 at end of backstretch BUT when you hit the banking in the corners you can feel your ass get planted down into the seat and I was below 150 so surely the G's are multiplied at higher speeds.
Above average person can take 7+ g's in loading up. Race drivers FAR exceed this. The problem was with fatigue and that schmo, Eddie Cheever running his mouth about that whichm apparently, HE couldn't withstand?
So NO PASS out situations if you are the average real-life Indy Car driver.
Arie Luyendyck ran a practice lap at 239.986 at Indy MANY years ago. It is said that his end of turn 1 trap speed was in excess of 250 mph.
@@warrenholmes3311 Look up Mark Donahue setting the world record for closed circuit land speed. He did it at Talladega which is very similar in design and amount of banking as Daytona. He said at those speeds, you begin to black out, you forget where you are and what you're doing, and it takes a miracle to be able to hold on and not crash because of it, the G-Forces involved are just that high.
And remember, Mark Donahue was an F1 driver, so he already dealt with high g-forces for his day job, he was very used to it, yet even for him these speeds and the g-forces involved made him start to black out. You need to be an air force jet pilot, or an astronaut, to be able to handle these kinds of g-forces, and even then it takes years of training in those spinning g-force machines.
I went to the Indy car test at Daytona a few years ago and was hoping they would end up racing there at some point but it never happened.
No dude! They should race there every weekend.
The banking is there - and at Talladega - to help the cup cars maintain speed while turning with their minimal comparative downforce. IndyCars have no such issue and could easily take those turns flat out. At that point, the constant G load would likely cause what happened at TMS with the drivers starting to black out
A Cup car couldn't stay near an Indycar at Daytona
They tried in 1959 but because of several factors low attendance, lost money, high speeds, and George Amick's death, apart of testing in 2006 and 2007 on the motorcycle course, they never returned to Daytona. Plus USAC considered going to Talladega in 1980 but that race got cancelled.
Interesting fact: Indy Car used to race at Daytona in 1959, which they never returned because it was too dangerous to race.
That was a test session and I believe a driver died.
40 Open wheel cars on a banked oval 2 1/2 mile super speedway. I don't see any problems.. 😊
I live in Daytona bring on Indy cars I'll sit front row just to hear the roar. If I get hit by a car flying into the stands. Oh well worth the risk.
I was at the Ferrari Finali Mondiali at Daytona in 2016 when Kimi Raikkonen and Sebastian Vettel did the Road Course in their F1 Ferraris. Incredible!
Still did better than the normal Daytona crunchables
Why not have the drivers control the cars by remote, from the safety of racing simulators? The only issue would be fan safety, but they could sign wavers before going trackside.
Sounds like a vacuum cleaner from the front angle
Well... it's not like a stock car never went airborne at speed...
I give him a 10 for sticking the landing .
There imply should be no Indycar races on the Nascar ovals. Those track are designed for the Cup cars' behavior.
Incredibly, 1800 people actually touched the like button.
The actual reason is that open wheel racing isn’t possible when cars often side swipe each other as part of the racing. (Rubber to rubber contact creates an instant flip up so would ultimately be deadly)..
Same reason they only used a quarter of Indy's oval. G forces are far too high for the pilot to go flat out on a full oval.
Also forget Daytona, send them to Talladega :D
They could always run the road course at Daytona which better fits them, anyway
That hoop is built stout, that car spun on the hoop like a top. I guess they took most of the downforce out thus going airborne.
Sounds like Stuka dive bombers!
Indy car used to race at MIS in MI on its high banking for a number of years. There were a number of bad crashes there, but they still held the race there. The official reason for ending it there was lack of attendance.
MIS isn't high banked.
Oh yes it is high banked. With the Porsche club, I have done more than a few laps at that track. I did the turns at about 140mph never slowing down for the turn. I would imagine Daytona may have a higher banking, but MIS is definitely pretty high.
Looked it up...MIS banking is 18 degrees. Talladega has the highest banking at 33 degrees.
@michaelsheedy
Maybe for a Porsche it's high banked , 18 degrees isn't considered "high banks" in the NASCAR world , we race in the Xfinity Series.
@@michaelsheedyDaytona is 31 degrees
Now hit the B button and you can go again.
I think it has something to do with the fact the cars go 240mph and explode into a million smithereens if you barely touch them?
I'd like to see a sim of an Indycar and a Nascar racing on Daytona. How much faster would the Indycar be there?
Well seeing how they hit close to 240 at indy while Nascar at its peak was hitting 200 and the Fact the car is 1/10th the weight with 10x the Downforce it would easily Gap the NASCAR by a mile. Even unrestricted max Power The nest you can get from a NASCAR is 255 mph. Indy is closer to 300 unrestricted
So what is the reason then? All I saw was some guy spinning out of a corner which happens anywhere, even at Indy itself. If you are going to make videos like this at least either provide some commentary, subtitles or an explanation in the description!
Massive g forces and tremendous speeds that could cause driver vertigo or blackouts ,plus regular Indy car tires couldnt handle the banking stress
as for blacking out they would simply reduce the speed of the cars
DRADDLE DRADDLE DRADDLE I MADE YOU OUT OF CLAY
title should be changed to "driver crashes at Daytona because lack of skill", they tested racing at Daytona drivers complained of getting dizzy due to the amount of g-force generated by the cars, dont think you want cars pack racing and a driver passes out, open wheel cars run totally diffrent when it comes to G-forces than closed wheel cars, F1 & Indy Car have way higher G-forces than other motor sports, running super big banks with high g-force can also lead to tyre blow outs happening a lot more.
They tested on the motorcycle road course several years ago with no problems...
Indycar did some kind of running at Daytona a few years ago. Nothing official, trying to check out the road course, and they found the transitions between the apron and the backing were too severe for the cars, and would cause too many problems in a race.
G-suits for all drivers. It works for pilots. The only difference is this flyers never leave the ground… unless.
Fricken Nailed it at the end 😅
He should have stayed at the top and hugged the wall. The centrifugal force would give an additional 20-25 more mph .
just say at maybe at 250 mph if a few cars touch wheels, they may be able to clear the catch fence when they go airborne.GOD help the thousands in the stands when it hits them.if just a 5 pound part hits you at 200+ mph, its probably a fatality.memories of the 1955 le mans disaster.DONT NEED THAT AGAIN.
That wreck looked more like a driver fk-up than anything else.
How in the world did this video get 514,000 views ? If I knew doing 1 lap around Daytona on iRacing and then wrecking would get half a million views then I would have uploaded one 15 years ago.
This is a simulation right because it sure doesn’t look like a real run around the track and a real accident
Maybe they could do a road course race, But no chance at Oval.
I’d love to see indy car come to the Daytona roval
Years ago they raced at Dover,it was a disaster 🤯🤯
At least the wreck stopped that infernal noise. Jesus, doesn’t even sound or look like a car
when TMS opened the Indy drivers complained about the speeds they were reaching...
USAC tried in the 50s or 60s. A wreck killed spectators, if I'm recalling correctly, and they cancelled the race in the middle of the event weekend and haven't been back.
There's still an Indycar series active?
Dover has high banks. The Indy cars ran there in 1999 or so.
The driver should have never gotten down to the yellow lines. The pitch of the corner is gone, and that portion of the track is dead flat. That transition is what got the car loose. Had he stayed above those twin yellow lines this would not have happened.
I saw Indy at Fontana in 2015 and I thought that was way too big of an oval for those cars. Saw a few insane wrecks.