NO BRAKES!😱 ANGRY 700+ hp Audi RS6 C7 // Nürburgring

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 367

  • @AutoAddictionMedia
    @AutoAddictionMedia Месяц назад +571

    ECU remap needs to be checked, rev limiter does not match the red lights. Should be at 7200rpm after remap

    • @jojajo2707
      @jojajo2707 Месяц назад +78

      That is irritating a lot😅
      Misha is drilled to go to red line, that's why he hits the limiter hundreds of times 😂

    • @atnotthiolnoy1
      @atnotthiolnoy1 Месяц назад +1

      Thanks captain obvious

    • @bulbx1273
      @bulbx1273 Месяц назад +4

      ??? stock red line has nothing to do with new remap and engine tuning.

    • @AI-Records24
      @AI-Records24 Месяц назад +16

      That makes no sense, and remap shouldn’t have affected this at all - but seems they’ve lowered the limiter for some insane reason, it’s already set quite low by Audi and can do another 200rpm safely

    • @BeeBeefy
      @BeeBeefy Месяц назад +16

      Needs to remove pop and bangs too lol

  • @jochem1986
    @jochem1986 Месяц назад +268

    Super fast machine with all the space for a succesful night pharmacist.

    • @DaEVOthefreak
      @DaEVOthefreak Месяц назад +11

      underated😄

    • @costynvd
      @costynvd Месяц назад +24

      Or atm robberies; Dutch 'plofkraak' getaway car

    • @zf8496
      @zf8496 Месяц назад +1

      i see what you did there LOL

    • @world-karma9127
      @world-karma9127 Месяц назад +2

      From Joe 'chem'😅

    • @microfx
      @microfx Месяц назад

      @@zf8496what did he do there tho?

  • @midlifemods
    @midlifemods Месяц назад +22

    As an Audi fan boy, I love it when you feature Audis, even when their brakes suck! 😂 I’m track prepping my already modified S4 for a time attack competition in November. I’ll be adding a big brake kit on it!! Can’t wait!

    • @mark-ish
      @mark-ish Месяц назад

      Wonderful, best.

  • @NikodemSkibicki
    @NikodemSkibicki Месяц назад +141

    Bashing the limiter like a honda!!
    Great driving, Great passenger. This things moves. Looks heavy. Handled well :D

    • @chrisparker1267
      @chrisparker1267 Месяц назад +7

      He was on his phone trying to record garbage looking videos.

    • @mark-ish
      @mark-ish Месяц назад +2

      Third generation (C7/4G)
      Kerb weight
      1,950 kg (4,299 lb)

    • @NikodemSkibicki
      @NikodemSkibicki Месяц назад +1

      @@chrisparker1267 I agree with the telephone manner, not the best.
      However didn’t seem bothered about actually letting Misha enjoy his pride and joy.

    • @NikodemSkibicki
      @NikodemSkibicki Месяц назад

      @@mark-ish Thank you, I mean it doesn’t sound toooo heavy to be honest for what you get.
      I have a tiny car.
      “1,150kg empty”- the internet

    • @tyrantrixo3362
      @tyrantrixo3362 Месяц назад +1

      @@chrisparker1267 calm down bro

  • @itzjeanclaude7746
    @itzjeanclaude7746 Месяц назад +74

    Drive it like it’s a civic looks funny

  • @Toestyy
    @Toestyy Месяц назад +21

    It’s unfortunate the c7 rs6 wasn’t available in the US. Absolute dream car right here down to the paint color.

    • @benben071
      @benben071 Месяц назад

      Garbage bin grey😂

  • @PERZN4LIFE
    @PERZN4LIFE Месяц назад +133

    4:52 when the guy mentioned downforce, look at Mishas face 🤣

    • @Top_Gun_Engineer
      @Top_Gun_Engineer Месяц назад +32

      The passenger was not wrong though. It is a downforce increase due to the steep slope; it is just not coming from aerodynamic forces.

    • @kimnotking9742
      @kimnotking9742 Месяц назад +39

      Maybe it's called G-force

    • @Bomblebee666
      @Bomblebee666 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@kimnotking9742 ye bro took it literally 😂

    • @PERZN4LIFE
      @PERZN4LIFE Месяц назад +19

      @@Top_Gun_Engineerthe passenger isn’t wrong but it’s the terminology. The face of Misha says you aren’t wrong but you aren’t right 😂

    • @Top_Gun_Engineer
      @Top_Gun_Engineer Месяц назад +3

      @@PERZN4LIFE hahahaha exactly this! Of course when we say about downforce we refer to aerodynamic forces but you got my point 😉

  • @Lukas323f
    @Lukas323f Месяц назад +55

    Rev Limiter Party🔥🥳

  • @hdhfdhddhdk
    @hdhfdhddhdk Месяц назад +48

    So weird that other people have problems with folks who have their phone out. Its not your experience. Someone is experiencing something the way they want. We just get to enjoy. We dont even contribute content, the guest is by providing a car. Just watch the car n track in stead of focusing on 1 of the only 2 dudes on camera.

    • @tadassmolskas3014
      @tadassmolskas3014 Месяц назад

      I suppose Misha is the only one that can really complain about it. It's dangerous if they drop the phone and fly into his face or go under the pedals.

    • @Vancev99x
      @Vancev99x Месяц назад

      ​@@tadassmolskas3014 i could see going onto the floor but physics isn't allowing the phone to smack anyone in the face. That phone ain't going BACKWARDS in a crash. And if velocity holds up that windshields not stopping it either that phones a projectile sure but it's to the things OUTSIDE the car. 😂

    • @Vancev99x
      @Vancev99x Месяц назад

      ​@@tadassmolskas3014 Misha also records. Some of his shorts he has his phone out chasing down a gt2s and 3s. 😅

  • @matZe0086
    @matZe0086 Месяц назад +5

    WOW 🫣 how you sail over the track hardcore respect and then the sound from the RS6 🤯🤯🤯 absolutely fascinating to see a professional at his craft

  • @MR-JWW
    @MR-JWW Месяц назад +4

    Top tip: if you put the dash display into laptimer mode you would have had shift lights + boost gauge + oil temp for us to look at rather than the map

  • @taylorkelly6145
    @taylorkelly6145 Месяц назад +9

    0:13 That is the definition of a nervous laugh.

  • @Pabla98
    @Pabla98 Месяц назад +2

    As a c7.5 RS7 performance owner I loved watching this video, while these cars aren't made for the track they do handle themselves fairly well. Especially with the DRC suspension (I think this RS6 had it too) and some minor suspension mods such as sway bars and even just lowering it really grips well in corners. I have the CCBs as well and haven't had any pedal issues (I have tracked too). As for the redline issues, these cars have a weird upshift delay, when you press the paddle the upshift doesn't happen instantly so you kind of have to short shift.
    You are right Misha the C7 generation is the best gen for the RS6, not heavy regulations, lighter than C8s and quicker. The C8s have become to soft.

  • @BostelD
    @BostelD Месяц назад +2

    RS6 C7 is the first fast car I was able to drive, what an amazing machine, gotta love that v8 sound...

  • @esaedvik
    @esaedvik Месяц назад +6

    Always love the sounds Audis make.

  • @JimmyGaikovert
    @JimmyGaikovert Месяц назад +2

    Уже через пару минут езды, парень обмяк, как мешок.
    Смотришь в этот момент на накачанные 💪 руки Миши и понимаешь как важна для пилота хорошая физическая подготовка 👍

  • @mikeypv6
    @mikeypv6 Месяц назад +10

    This has to be the ultimate daily 👌😍

  • @HeliShed
    @HeliShed Месяц назад +43

    Misha - I have a C7.5 RS6 - 2016 - mapped to 680hp. The no 1 rule, put simply, is NEVER, EVER drive this car spirited unless you have braided hoses and at least yellow / blueback pads or.................................... you'll get exactly this and on the road, likely a dead car and possibly you. The owner should know better! (PS, I'd question the performance + package - that was tripping out at 6.5k - easy to OBD Eleven raise the light to 6.8 / 7 but unless properly mapped (mine is Lichfield), it will stomp at 6.6. Finally, those intakes should be silver if it were a perf package - granted though, he could've had them painted. In my view though, that wasn't a performance + RS6 at all. Thank you.)

    • @stfu6397
      @stfu6397 Месяц назад +8

      Audi braking at it’s finest, same with B8.5 S4 over here

    • @Pabla98
      @Pabla98 Месяц назад +1

      I have a RS7 performance and the intake tubes are black, I have also tracked the car with the stock CCBs and they handled a tight track well. He is probably overdue for a flush or pads. The rev limiter is interesting though, mine goes all the way up to 7k rpms but there is a slight delay from pulling the paddle and actually upshifting so you do have a upshift a few milliseconds earlier.

    • @HeliShed
      @HeliShed Месяц назад +1

      @@Pabla98 RS7s are black yes. RS6 performance are silver.

    • @Pabla98
      @Pabla98 Месяц назад

      @@HeliShed hm they share the same part number.. I know the intake tubes underneath the cover are metal but the exposed parts are black plastic

    • @JerainJezza
      @JerainJezza Месяц назад +1

      3 consecutive hard laps at the ring in my stage 2 F90 M5, no problem with brakes whatsoever. Also no understeer like this RS6 at for example at Adenauer Forst but some oversteer at will :D

  • @AlexanderJe
    @AlexanderJe Месяц назад +1

    Haven't really noticed it on other cars, but I like a lot that it shows the map and says "Nürburgring".
    Just a little detail, but adds nice feeling.

  • @_J.P._
    @_J.P._ Месяц назад +4

    I like the fact that the Nurburgring is on the GPS map :D

  • @renaultmeganesuperleggera
    @renaultmeganesuperleggera Месяц назад +3

    So funny that people always got bothered when someone is recording videos with their phones when riding with Misha 😂 sounds like it's your problem. We all have different ways to enjoy things and it's not often to experience the same thing over and over again

  • @fastflyer666
    @fastflyer666 Месяц назад +15

    Odd the limiter hard cuts before the redline on the tacho. Don’t think I’ve ever noticed that in a car before.

    • @patteyh
      @patteyh Месяц назад +14

      @@fastflyer666 bad tune most likely

    • @mark-ish
      @mark-ish Месяц назад +2

      Tuned to minimize his insurance premium.

    • @AI-Records24
      @AI-Records24 Месяц назад

      @@patteyhnot necessarily bad, they maybe lowered the limiter for engine longevity. Considering it’s set conservatively from factory anyway good tuner knows this but as they say: customer is always right and if they want they get😂

    • @teamracing07
      @teamracing07 Месяц назад +2

      That's the way it's from factory. Not all tuners raise the limiter for longevity

    • @Jack-qn4vt
      @Jack-qn4vt Месяц назад

      Cx5 turbo does it too from factory :/

  • @mark-ish
    @mark-ish Месяц назад +1

    4:21 when you weren't looking through your iph you were having the time of your life, hilarious.

  • @stratman9449
    @stratman9449 Месяц назад +5

    fast and heavy......quite the beast......makes the rest of the cars look like they're parked on the side....

  • @kazmis1398
    @kazmis1398 Месяц назад +9

    Burning the limiter 😂 hahaha but loving it it's part of the c6 rs6 legacy that limiter sound

    • @TranceFur
      @TranceFur Месяц назад +1

      Nah, his ECU tune just has the limiter set at the incorrect RPM.

  • @Vampirebear13
    @Vampirebear13 Месяц назад

    Another GREAT video of course Misha !!! I'm recovering from a mini stroke & have NO memory of anything from September 9th to the 19th.
    Thankfully I was out of the hospital to enjoy my birthday September 28th. I'm catching up on the videos I've missed on both your channels.

  • @tony_b
    @tony_b Месяц назад +51

    What's going with the rev limiter? Limp mode? The tune? Valet mode?

    • @survey1010
      @survey1010 Месяц назад +17

      the tune

    • @gyula6516
      @gyula6516 Месяц назад +9

      I think the rev limiter is quite conservative. I've seen a few vids where (when tuned) the cars go over 7K rpm. I suppose this is healthier for the engine. Especially on track

    • @mark-ish
      @mark-ish Месяц назад +1

      Insurance policy tune. 😅

    • @tescoshortage
      @tescoshortage 22 дня назад

      @@gyula6516 Yeah, whoever tuned it kept the factory settings for the rev limit

  • @elroyjacobs7153
    @elroyjacobs7153 Месяц назад

    Wow….!!!!! What a lap misha. You surely drove the hell out of that RS6….. Great job man. 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @Powersproductions130
    @Powersproductions130 Месяц назад +2

    Nurburgring on the instrument cluster map is pretty cool.

  • @andigaming1991
    @andigaming1991 Месяц назад +1

    Even with the really low RPM rev limiter, tired brakes and bad traffic can still easily see how fast the car is.

  • @Eric_the_Hiking
    @Eric_the_Hiking Месяц назад +18

    When you're flying on the Nürburgring, your phone should be in airplane mode.

    • @mark-ish
      @mark-ish Месяц назад +1

      *your pocket.

  • @bani.bani97
    @bani.bani97 Месяц назад

    this video responds to all those who say that Audi has understeer and goes straight through curves, with more than 2000 kg it didn't go off the track in the slightest, Audi is truly incredible 👍🏻

    • @jesukxd8494
      @jesukxd8494 Месяц назад

      It did have understeer but not that bad

    • @AI-Records24
      @AI-Records24 Месяц назад

      People mean comparably mate don’t be so literal😅eg they do… COMPARED to a bmw, but they aren’t un-drivable still good cars of course, just not driver focused cars.

  • @mark-ish
    @mark-ish Месяц назад

    Supremely relaxed driver.
    You're not that far away from driving blindfolded, by memory alone.

  • @NoWayBroggs
    @NoWayBroggs Месяц назад

    we need this guys comeback with the proper things at the car

  • @Frenzinh0
    @Frenzinh0 Месяц назад

    I swear the RS6 sounds absolutely menace.

  • @deancampbell724
    @deancampbell724 Месяц назад

    it’s the size of a bus moving with the speed of a rocket i’m not surprised the brakes are tired i think they flipping well 😂. absolutely loved this what a weapon all the sounds amazing!!!!

  • @l8tapex
    @l8tapex Месяц назад +34

    eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, uh uh uh uh uh shift!

  • @Gtcars12
    @Gtcars12 Месяц назад

    That shifting sounds really really good

  • @DrivenToChaos_0331
    @DrivenToChaos_0331 Месяц назад

    She's quite a big girl at 1950-2100ish kg (43-4600lbs) but man how the Quattro system just claws it out of the corners. Could see you were extra focused on those necessary corrections, shame the brakes were fatigued a bit early but handled like a boss as always. I'm curious what the most noticeable difference is, besides weight, between the Avants & sedans handling at the limit...?

  • @idklol3602
    @idklol3602 Месяц назад

    I like that Polestar 2 at the beginning. I want to see another Polestar lap in the future!

  • @AlexGeorgiev777
    @AlexGeorgiev777 Месяц назад +1

    Amazing video as always from Misha! I have this car in my collection and absolutely love it, but doesn't exist Performance "Plus". There is a Dynamic plus package...

  • @yassineyangossa3148
    @yassineyangossa3148 Месяц назад

    5:22 Misha knew that car ain't trusted anymore

  • @5zu-der3
    @5zu-der3 Месяц назад +1

    Ready voor bruilooft met die waggie in duitsland👍👍

  • @edje858
    @edje858 Месяц назад

    the power even after 180 and 200 is insane

  • @Tech-Savvy1
    @Tech-Savvy1 Месяц назад +4

    The best looking and sounding RS6 generation period!

    • @elko8679
      @elko8679 Месяц назад

      Look up dmo deejays rs6 that's the best looking and sounding rs6 hands down😊

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 Месяц назад

      I much prefer the C8 one.

  • @Alim_Hapov.
    @Alim_Hapov. Месяц назад

    ..как же он хорошо чувствует трассу и автомобиль 🫡, .. удивительный талант

  • @peterpyzer
    @peterpyzer Месяц назад

    If i did Not RS 6 Avant i didnt know alone From the insane Corner Performance , wasnt expecting this

  • @Vukan2493
    @Vukan2493 Месяц назад +8

    Yeah it's for family trip
    Wdym?

  • @scotthergert1668
    @scotthergert1668 Месяц назад

    those brakes r crazy at 2:02

  • @mrmorizofan7001
    @mrmorizofan7001 Месяц назад

    3bar from factory - thats madness! My Valenos for GR Yaris recommend using higher pressures than 1 bar. :D

  • @Vajitteee
    @Vajitteee Месяц назад

    nice to see the sat nav? doing its thing the whole way :D

  • @strelokreg
    @strelokreg Месяц назад

    ибическая динамика. Аж до мурашек.

  • @RD-vb9cr
    @RD-vb9cr Месяц назад

    Something bout the RS6❤ just an epic drive Misha❤

  • @Aristophanes73
    @Aristophanes73 Месяц назад

    C7, the pinnacle of the RS6 evolution

    • @HeliShed
      @HeliShed Месяц назад

      @@Aristophanes73 c7.5 actually pal. C7 was shit in comparison.

  • @ALCLCFVIS
    @ALCLCFVIS Месяц назад +3

    it's painful to watch and hear that limiter

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 Месяц назад

    The passenger feels like a character I'd encounter in GTA. I'm glad he had a good time even if his brakes didn't.

  • @Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel
    @Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel Месяц назад +1

    this is what you get when you pay 200 euro for a tune xD

  • @bavarianshooter
    @bavarianshooter Месяц назад +1

    have you guys noted the change in exhaust sound during the last third? What was that? It was way less crisp and more "whooshy" like the exhaust flap closed partially during the run.

  • @Notasheepleandneverwillbe
    @Notasheepleandneverwillbe Месяц назад

    I don't see a lot of Audis where I live , but if I was going to look for a Audi station wagon . An older RS4 would be the one I want .

  • @hogwild5844
    @hogwild5844 Месяц назад

    Fabulous piece of kit but as others have said the brakes DEFINITELY need upgrading on the C6 or C7 if you want to do anything more than average braking as they have a LOT of weight to slow down and stop.

  • @ItzMosa
    @ItzMosa Месяц назад

    Just when I thought by myself I want to see Misha in an Audi. This video pops up! 🎉

  • @bpgaming069
    @bpgaming069 Месяц назад

    Misha needs to get his hands on a GTD

  • @arm_luvr1002
    @arm_luvr1002 Месяц назад

    It sounded fantastic Misha

  • @Statisticsprincipal
    @Statisticsprincipal Месяц назад +2

    Misha needs to drive a Ford GT

  • @stfu6397
    @stfu6397 Месяц назад

    Best RS6 generation indeed. Looks, sound,…

  • @kealke
    @kealke Месяц назад +1

    Die mapping moet opnieuw, je hoopt een hoop mis zo. Ook het geluid met gas erop tegen het eind is anders dan aan het begin, waarschijnlijk ergens een boost lekje, zou ik ff na laten kijken.

  • @jonfollows7553
    @jonfollows7553 Месяц назад

    These drive so well. Big estate or not it’s a great car on track. That limiter is weird though? Great video as always Misha

  • @alfredsaalo1441
    @alfredsaalo1441 Месяц назад

    Misha has thought me the importance of a proper break system

  • @DaEVOthefreak
    @DaEVOthefreak Месяц назад +9

    all the "propper HighPerformance" bombers suffers the same. Engine Temps and Brakes. Nothing for a track but entertaining if Misha drives.

    • @lecalendal
      @lecalendal Месяц назад +4

      It's overtuned and brakes are probably because of an overdue brake fluid change

  • @HAWKbest
    @HAWKbest Месяц назад

    1. There is no "Performance Plus" version. Just performance.
    2. Yes, its handling better, than new one. And sounds better. And faster with same hp)))

  • @sylvainjamais904
    @sylvainjamais904 Месяц назад

    Addictive rev limiter sound

  • @MatthewReid-ww6qt
    @MatthewReid-ww6qt Месяц назад

    Misha - " Oh you have friends "
    lmao

  • @MrSamblomer
    @MrSamblomer Месяц назад

    I have a C5 RS6, might come over when I’ve done the correct mods.

  • @dorianmentor3921
    @dorianmentor3921 Месяц назад

    Super nice video pity brakes where cooked but it is a heavy car and tune seemed like that's all she needed 😮 lovely acceleration n sound Misha is correct. Older version would be interesting as well

  • @NickV1978
    @NickV1978 Месяц назад

    160 km of range blown through in ONE LAP!!!! 🤑

  • @Marcotabacchi
    @Marcotabacchi Месяц назад +5

    he understands that the limiter is at 6500 rpm and continues to go to the limiter for the whole track anyway 😂

    • @olds97lss
      @olds97lss Месяц назад

      Was kind of weird because sometimes it didn't.

  • @Nevilebartos
    @Nevilebartos Месяц назад

    Harbuckle just sittin there sniggering

  • @dominiquehuot-fp3dd
    @dominiquehuot-fp3dd Месяц назад

    Pas besoin de l'emmener au garage, pour un décalaminage. C'est Misha qui s'en charge.

  • @R-R-R-R-R
    @R-R-R-R-R Месяц назад +1

    4:21 😆

  •  Месяц назад

    He looks like a son of one coffeshop owner here in Den Haag.

  • @Purple_zip-z9v
    @Purple_zip-z9v Месяц назад

    And all that in a family car😮🤯

  • @xguboekoberav1980
    @xguboekoberav1980 Месяц назад +2

    Beast of a car, better on the bahn then on the ring with all that weight. Just not a fan of the ploppy gargly limiter/cutoff sounds….🤷🏼‍♂️ VAG things i guess.

  • @RobbertKlunder
    @RobbertKlunder Месяц назад

    Eindelijk de beste (geluid)gezinsauto gehad!😂👌🏻

  • @Gary_HTX
    @Gary_HTX Месяц назад +1

    Holy bouncing off the rev limiter batman

  • @brian_SuperbikesofHolland
    @brian_SuperbikesofHolland Месяц назад +128

    Plz stop filming with your phone people 🙈😂

    • @thizzkidclips9709
      @thizzkidclips9709 Месяц назад +17

      He only recorded like around 2mins, chill.

    • @Verybadbiker
      @Verybadbiker Месяц назад +25

      let people do what they want

    • @legacygtb5934
      @legacygtb5934 Месяц назад +13

      Please stop riding bikes on the track

    • @MatthewReid-ww6qt
      @MatthewReid-ww6qt Месяц назад +1

      @@Verybadbiker Yeah, I used to think the same thing but people will do people things :) Lifes too short to stress about something like this.

    • @CoyoteSwapEverything
      @CoyoteSwapEverything Месяц назад +4

      it’s literally they car they can do whatever they please inside

  • @si1208
    @si1208 Месяц назад

    What a glorious noise !

  • @Bassinfection1
    @Bassinfection1 Месяц назад +1

    2100kg no more comments needed

  • @cg-ji8ul
    @cg-ji8ul Месяц назад

    Beautiful RS6 and video of around the track with it, but seems that the TCU map isn’t refined while shifting in gears

  • @jul1k1ng81
    @jul1k1ng81 Месяц назад

    Misha uploaded 🔥🔥🔥

  • @andypandy5486
    @andypandy5486 Месяц назад

    Brilliant sound

  • @francoisjarzabek1412
    @francoisjarzabek1412 Месяц назад

    I felt like in a game with the map bottom right telling me where is the next corner 😁

  • @robertsimondj
    @robertsimondj Месяц назад +3

    do not disturb pls on iPhone :D the car is 😻

  • @Itsallfun3000
    @Itsallfun3000 Месяц назад

    Now this monster does have 700 ponies!

  • @biljancanin
    @biljancanin Месяц назад

    The C7 also looks the best...

  • @tamtdc
    @tamtdc Месяц назад

    Lucky you had the sat nav on to show you where to go on the ring.,!! 😂😂😂

  • @michalmatejov3264
    @michalmatejov3264 Месяц назад

    fast ride, but the sound could be better. For me, the only Audi RS6 V10 is the performance of the V10 engine is nice sound 😉

  • @alemultijet
    @alemultijet Месяц назад

    Le Audi RS, da quando usano i motori Lamborghini hanno fanno un salto di qualità

  • @scarlett.5
    @scarlett.5 Месяц назад

    holy fuck this sounds amazin

  • @ibirubyxx
    @ibirubyxx Месяц назад

    Misha has mor fun in a Subaru Impreza sti❤

  • @Pure-Luck447
    @Pure-Luck447 Месяц назад

    Who doesn't love a C7RS seems like 700hp also.