2002 was the best year of the TC engine. All the cam bearing, flywheel, charging system issues were cured, but still had the Timken left side bearing, pre metal saver cases, bushings everywhere, etc.
Ya know I would be more likely to subscribe if you wouldn't ask. It feels very huckster to me. I know a lot of channels do it but for me it's an absolute turnoff. Having said that. I'll watch the episode and come back someday if I'm interested.
@@mpista7182 hey thanks for your continued support and watching the channel, I really appreciate it! If it wasn’t for repeat viewers like you, I wouldn’t be nearly as successful 🏁
@@haroldcotten1840 we all ride what we like/can afford… Unfortunately not a lot of options these days for new metric cruisers that are comparable to Harleys
Love the Harley haters who don't have a Harley and never have lol. I ride any brand and have found that Harleys can eat up miles and ride like a Cadillac on the highway. If you're looking to corner carve and knee drag, get a sport bike. I have a Kawasaki Z900 RS if I want to take flight. The Harley cruises much more comfortably for long trips and you aren't crouched over, you can sit up, lean back, and relax. They have their issues but HD is a great cruising bike and touring machine.
Great video! So many think Harley-Davidson motorcycles are too expensive. I disagree. If you buy one and actually ride it and keep it for a long time it's really a great value!
Couldn't agree more with the constant use thing. I ride year round have a few bikes and rotate them and never had a problem. Almost any bike is a good bike if you treat it right.
But wait! Everyone, on the internet, says Harleys are unreliable pieces of crap. Im confused 😁 I've got a 2013 103ci Twin Cam and i will put 50ish on it before i consider selling it. THEN, i will do so with a clean conscience because im sure it will serve its new owner well too. Maintenance is everything 👍
I had 118,500 miles on my 2003 Road King, when I sold it. The bike was stock and the only time the motor was opened was to inspect/change cam tensioners
I wish I could say the same for my 2019 sportster. The motor shit itself after 26,500 miles on it. I always took care of it and have done all the maintenance according to the book.
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcycles I’m not sure yet. The dealership near me has the bike. They will probably look at it this coming week. My guess is that a lifter failed. I’m not a mechanic though. From doing the old school compression test, the front cylinder doesn’t seem to have any compression and the rear cylinder does (I have no idea how much).
Maintenance and regular riding mileage, they will last long and serve you well. 106k on my 2005 fxdc, 80k on my 2007 flht, 45k on my 2005 xl1200, still stacking miles on the 1998 RK evo and 2015 heritage. They are all ridden regularly, daily commute is 100mi, days off usually big miles. They have never stranded me.
With the high cost of fuel, insurance per mileage and seasonal variations; I can only dream of getting that amount of miles on the road per year. Also fitting in gardening, DIY around the house and a good nights sleep takes up my time as well.
@PeterAngles-jq7gr no idea why you'd doubt it. I had 155k on my 1998 Road King when I reluctantly traded it in for an Ultra when my wife decided she wanted to start touring with me. I had 2 different HD techs fighting with the owner of my local HD to buy it. The guy who got it (that was in 2013) rodes it 40 miles to work and then back each day. It rolled 200,000 and was approaching 250k when he moved and I lost touch. Cha ge the fluids, do the checks, they basically last as long as you want them to. Plenty of 200,300, 500,000 mile HDs out there...and then Scooter Tramp Scotty puts us all to shame, lol. Enjoy your miles and smiles!!! I just got back from another 6 hours of wandering backroads in AR and OK... no worries and I got a TX trip in October coming up for the Born Free Texas #3 - that's about 7 hours one way for me. These bikes run well if you take care of them. Kinda like my 1990 Toyota that had 350,000 on it and the guy I sold it to flew 5 hours to get it and drove it home...no problems, probably still running, lol.
I picked up a '99 TC88 FXDL with 25k dry miles and 7 owners. Declined a test ride before checking the tensioners. Ran like crap anything but warm enough days with the fuel screw 3 turns out and started cold without choke. Other times it would spit like it was cold, which it kind of was from running rich. Took a while to find but probably the first owner fitted fueling 525 cams and a Harley motor co fuel cap. The cap is non vented from an EFi and it's got a carb that didn't like being starved under all sorts of combinations. Sump threads were stripped with plumbers tape mod. After market bars with 600 grit wet dry packing and a clamp from a sportster with the wrong hole pitch. Sissy bar had to go with wiring chewed by the back tyre. Front discs destroyed by seized pins in the bracket,rear EBC pads incompatible with the caliper, Harley pads are now supplied with metric shims that don't fit, .0075" isn't .25mm and the caliper has to be modded if you don't fit pads with shims. Rear wheel was way off making left bends scary. It's taken 25 years for it to find the right owner with a factory workshop manual. Even then the manual is wrong about the front exhaust clamp torque spec,cross reference metric and check check and check again. Now if Honda made a Harley that's what this twin cam is like. I'm a clockmaker by trade and think the TC88 is better than the '95 evo FXDL I had before. Started with an 883 in '87 and still think 4 gears is enough most of the time. Happy days from sunny Devon UK.
I have a Chilton's for my old bike, but I still don't know what I'm doing, my model is if I don't know what I'm doing, Well I don't f with it. Thank you for the video.
2005 Deuce with Hayden M6 auto primary chain adjuster, full S+S in the cam chest , Gear Drive 509G cams , 35,000 miles 88B, 2014 Firefighter Streetglide 103 HO , Hayden M6 auto primary adjuster , 45,000 all run on AMSOIL with mini mite cooling fans and FLO reusable oil filters . And a little Honda CTX 700 with said oil filter and also run on Metric AMSOIL that has 35,000 on it .🤙🇬🇧🇺🇸😎
I had the stage two 103 kit put in my 07 Street Glide when the Dealer had a sale too good to pass up going even though there wasn't anything wrong with the 96". After I took the time to break it in properly (honest), & I road it to & from a church I attended & went on several of their rides, what I'm saying is the 103" was good & brokein, & I went to Texas on vacation & after I got back I put several hundred miles on it & went out to start it one day and nothing happened so I loaded it up & dropped it off at the Dealership & I hit the road for work. I got a call that the rotor went out & it had taken out the stator & of course I said "fix it". I come back in & trailered it home & left out on the road to work. I got home a few days later, rode it to church & afterwards we went on a ride as usual & made a pitstop & when I tried to start mine it acted like it couldn't overcome the compression. In 45 minutes it started good as usual but kept doing exactly the same until cooled off. The mechanics looked puzzled & one of the owners mentioned I needed compression releases since I put the 103 kit in. I mentioned the book didn't call for such & it had done a trip to Texas & ran many miles while doing fine so I honestly didn't think so & so I wouldn't let them hit my bank account hard & throw parts at the machine because I knew they honestly didn't know what was wrong. My question is is it possible the engine is off time and that's what's making it get hotter causing the compression to (cams) to ramp up where it caused starting issues? The starter & the battery check out fine. I can go out there right now & it will start up just like it did with the new 103 or even the 96. HELP!!! Nobody knows what to do!
@@jerryhayden8720 if it was me, I would start with a new battery. You can have a battery that test good but is still not good I’ve seen it multiple times. The 103 in this video does have compression releases, but will start without them. I would also recheck the stater and regulator rectifier, there’s a chance that may be they installed the defective part.
2012 EG owned since new. Over 100k. At 85k, installed new OEM cams, tensioners, timken bearings. Top end was clean. Mobil 1 every 5k. All bearings replaced in wheels, chassis. And it still gets compliments. Meh, I just ride. Also have 98 Springer ST & 09 Street Glide. Awesome bikes. Take care of them.
2014 Ultra with 70k on it. Before i owned a Harley i fell into the "They are junk" like most of internet. Bought it with 20k, 3 hole oil change every 5K not one issue.
A couple years ago, there was an article in the HOG magazine about a guy that put 100k miles on a new Road Glide in a yr. Just did the normal servicing along the way. He rode an Iron Butt essentially everyday on it. I have no idea what the Harley haters think their bikes do better in the real world.
@@ananda_miaoyin the tensioners aren’t as much of a common problem as people think and most of the time when it is a problem the chain is the issue because it wasn’t finished properly and it cut into the tensioner.
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcycles I have read that myself. You are correct. It just sucks that a wear item is such a bitch to replace - especially the inside one!
I had a 2010 Softail Custom which I bought in 2016 that had 2660 miles on and at trade in had 143136 miles on it. Compensator, charging system and cam chain tensioners were the only things I had to do other than usual maintenance.
It’s quite amazing really. Very well made engines. Had a 2003 FXST and now have a 2005 Heritage Softail Springer both had/have lots of KMs and still running strong. Lots of highway miles.
I run a 2001 Wide Glide, 95 kit with stage 3, stored for the season with 254,145 kilometres (157,823 miles), engine never opened, runs like the day I bought it.
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Not blowing smoke at all or embellishing my time and miles on the road. Over a 19 year period I rode my 1952 Panhead for right at 211k miles. At least a dozen top end rebuilds and 2 lower end rebuilds. 2 transmissions replacements with 4 speeds and lots of chains. Probably close to 50 rear tires and maybe 25 front tires. I wrecked her for the last time and broke the left case and twisted the original wishbone rigid frame. I still have her but in order to repair it I need to replace the cases therefore I lose my vin. 52FL2272. I bought a 2010 Ultra Classic and what a difference! I have 82k miles on this one and the engine is tired. And so am I.
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I ride 1000km + a week on my 2019 Heritage, give it all the love it needs ❤
2002 was the best year of the TC engine. All the cam bearing, flywheel, charging system issues were cured, but still had the Timken left side bearing, pre metal saver cases, bushings everywhere, etc.
96,000 miles and counting on my '09 Sporty. Scooter Tramp Scotty has us all beat though.
Long Distance Sportster Pilots are a breed apart. Lol.
I yearn for an XR1000. I'll bear the pain as well.
Ya know I would be more likely to subscribe if you wouldn't ask. It feels very huckster to me. I know a lot of channels do it but for me it's an absolute turnoff. Having said that. I'll watch the episode and come back someday if I'm interested.
@@mpista7182 hey thanks for your continued support and watching the channel, I really appreciate it! If it wasn’t for repeat viewers like you, I wouldn’t be nearly as successful 🏁
I'll stick with metric bikes
@@haroldcotten1840 we all ride what we like/can afford… Unfortunately not a lot of options these days for new metric cruisers that are comparable to Harleys
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcyclesa power wheels has a better motor than a trash Harley
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr how long ago did your old lady leave you for a Harley rider? 😂
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcycles i never went looking for w trash covered in tattoos and a smoker. Leave that for the Harley people
Love the Harley haters who don't have a Harley and never have lol. I ride any brand and have found that Harleys can eat up miles and ride like a Cadillac on the highway. If you're looking to corner carve and knee drag, get a sport bike. I have a Kawasaki Z900 RS if I want to take flight. The Harley cruises much more comfortably for long trips and you aren't crouched over, you can sit up, lean back, and relax. They have their issues but HD is a great cruising bike and touring machine.
The engine has been rebuilt, how many miles are on the rebuild?
I believe he said around 150k
@@Brainwashedmorons69 at just under 150k it was rebuilt so it should be good to go until 300k
He must have taken good care of it.
That’s true. I was a car tech for 7 years. And the cars that where higher mileage highway cars, where always in better mechanical shape.
If it is maintained correctly, it definitely is 100,000 mile plus motor, regardless of what year down to an evo and that’s it.
A friend of mine put 100k hard miles on a '98 Evo Electra-Glide. Did a cam & bearing change early on, but that's it.
Great video!
So many think Harley-Davidson motorcycles are too expensive.
I disagree.
If you buy one and actually ride it and keep it for a long time it's really a great value!
02 dyna 71k
05 hayabusa 79k
Keep up on maintenance, they'll go, and go, and...
Couldn't agree more with the constant use thing. I ride year round have a few bikes and rotate them and never had a problem. Almost any bike is a good bike if you treat it right.
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Can’t help but be impressed. Regardless of the brand that’s a lot of miles.
I've seen EVO s go 150,000 before they needed a top end done
Early Twin Cams, with a few upgrades, go forever.
Why only the early ones?
@@cj8172 less heat issues on early years. AFR is lean from the factory, unless tuned on later models, Later models can be bullet proofed, also.
But wait! Everyone, on the internet, says Harleys are unreliable pieces of crap. Im confused 😁 I've got a 2013 103ci Twin Cam and i will put 50ish on it before i consider selling it. THEN, i will do so with a clean conscience because im sure it will serve its new owner well too. Maintenance is everything 👍
Everyone with engineering and or mechanical experience knows theyre pieces of sht
I had 118,500 miles on my 2003 Road King, when I sold it. The bike was stock and the only time the motor was opened was to inspect/change cam tensioners
I wish I could say the same for my 2019 sportster. The motor shit itself after 26,500 miles on it. I always took care of it and have done all the maintenance according to the book.
@@CactusJack252 wow that’s very uncommon especially on a sportster! What was the fail point?
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcycles I’m not sure yet. The dealership near me has the bike. They will probably look at it this coming week. My guess is that a lifter failed. I’m not a mechanic though. From doing the old school compression test, the front cylinder doesn’t seem to have any compression and the rear cylinder does (I have no idea how much).
My ‘05 Super Glide just passed 100,000 miles.
I bought it new and do all my own work.
Engine is a stock 88, but has gear drive cams.
They were made to be ridden not just looked at. Low miles doesn't always mean the best miles.
Maintenance and regular riding mileage, they will last long and serve you well. 106k on my 2005 fxdc, 80k on my 2007 flht, 45k on my 2005 xl1200, still stacking miles on the 1998 RK evo and 2015 heritage. They are all ridden regularly, daily commute is 100mi, days off usually big miles. They have never stranded me.
They were definitely built a little more solid in a little bit more quality back then. Also a lot less plastic.
I had an 82 1/2 dark green wide glide, shovelhead with the oil control package on it, never leaked, 4 speed tranny. That’s all ya need
With the high cost of fuel, insurance per mileage and seasonal variations; I can only dream of getting that amount of miles on the road per year.
Also fitting in gardening, DIY around the house and a good nights sleep takes up my time as well.
I just hit 72k on my 103 Electra Glide Police. I love twin cams! Just subscribed Sir👊🏻
I have an evo.. if i was going to get a twin cam, it would be 99 to 02
Jist rolled 63,000 on my 2007 Road King Custom. 96 twin cam... I fully expect it to hit 200k before I need to rebuild it.
Not going to happen
@PeterAngles-jq7gr no idea why you'd doubt it. I had 155k on my 1998 Road King when I reluctantly traded it in for an Ultra when my wife decided she wanted to start touring with me. I had 2 different HD techs fighting with the owner of my local HD to buy it. The guy who got it (that was in 2013) rodes it 40 miles to work and then back each day. It rolled 200,000 and was approaching 250k when he moved and I lost touch.
Cha ge the fluids, do the checks, they basically last as long as you want them to. Plenty of 200,300, 500,000 mile HDs out there...and then Scooter Tramp Scotty puts us all to shame, lol. Enjoy your miles and smiles!!! I just got back from another 6 hours of wandering backroads in AR and OK... no worries and I got a TX trip in October coming up for the Born Free Texas #3 - that's about 7 hours one way for me. These bikes run well if you take care of them. Kinda like my 1990 Toyota that had 350,000 on it and the guy I sold it to flew 5 hours to get it and drove it home...no problems, probably still running, lol.
I picked up a '99 TC88 FXDL with 25k dry miles and 7 owners.
Declined a test ride before checking the tensioners.
Ran like crap anything but warm enough days with the fuel screw 3 turns out and started cold without choke.
Other times it would spit like it was cold, which it kind of was from running rich.
Took a while to find but probably the first owner fitted fueling 525 cams and a Harley motor co fuel cap.
The cap is non vented from an EFi and it's got a carb that didn't like being starved under all sorts of combinations.
Sump threads were stripped with plumbers tape mod.
After market bars with 600 grit wet dry packing and a clamp from a sportster with the wrong hole pitch.
Sissy bar had to go with wiring chewed by the back tyre.
Front discs destroyed by seized pins in the bracket,rear EBC pads incompatible with the caliper, Harley pads are now supplied with metric shims that don't fit, .0075" isn't .25mm and the caliper has to be modded if you don't fit pads with shims.
Rear wheel was way off making left bends scary.
It's taken 25 years for it to find the right owner with a factory workshop manual.
Even then the manual is wrong about the front exhaust clamp torque spec,cross reference metric and check check and check again.
Now if Honda made a Harley that's what this twin cam is like.
I'm a clockmaker by trade and think the TC88 is better than the '95 evo FXDL I had before.
Started with an 883 in '87 and still think 4 gears is enough most of the time.
Happy days from sunny Devon UK.
I have a Chilton's for my old bike, but I still don't know what I'm doing, my model is if I don't know what I'm doing, Well I don't f with it.
Thank you for the video.
I ride mine every day, unless the weather makes it unsafe, and zero issues.
2005 Deuce with Hayden M6 auto primary chain adjuster, full S+S in the cam chest , Gear Drive 509G cams , 35,000 miles 88B, 2014 Firefighter Streetglide 103 HO , Hayden M6 auto primary adjuster , 45,000 all run on AMSOIL with mini mite cooling fans and FLO reusable oil filters . And a little Honda CTX 700 with said oil filter and also run on Metric AMSOIL that has 35,000 on it .🤙🇬🇧🇺🇸😎
@@williamjohnson6517 Amsoil rules!👍🏁🤙
I had the stage two 103 kit put in my 07 Street Glide when the Dealer had a sale too good to pass up going even though there wasn't anything wrong with the 96". After I took the time to break it in properly (honest), & I road it to & from a church I attended & went on several of their rides, what I'm saying is the 103" was good & brokein, & I went to Texas on vacation & after I got back I put several hundred miles on it & went out to start it one day and nothing happened so I loaded it up & dropped it off at the Dealership & I hit the road for work. I got a call that the rotor went out & it had taken out the stator & of course I said "fix it". I come back in & trailered it home & left out on the road to work. I got home a few days later, rode it to church & afterwards we went on a ride as usual & made a pitstop & when I tried to start mine it acted like it couldn't overcome the compression. In 45 minutes it started good as usual but kept doing exactly the same until cooled off. The mechanics looked puzzled & one of the owners mentioned I needed compression releases since I put the 103 kit in. I mentioned the book didn't call for such & it had done a trip to Texas & ran many miles while doing fine so I honestly didn't think so & so I wouldn't let them hit my bank account hard & throw parts at the machine because I knew they honestly didn't know what was wrong. My question is is it possible the engine is off time and that's what's making it get hotter causing the compression to (cams) to ramp up where it caused starting issues? The starter & the battery check out fine. I can go out there right now & it will start up just like it did with the new 103 or even the 96. HELP!!! Nobody knows what to do!
@@jerryhayden8720 if it was me, I would start with a new battery. You can have a battery that test good but is still not good I’ve seen it multiple times. The 103 in this video does have compression releases, but will start without them. I would also recheck the stater and regulator rectifier, there’s a chance that may be they installed the defective part.
Still have a bought from new 86 evo sportster with greater than 220k miles
@@scotfield3950 wow that’s awesome!!!
My father in law has had three ultra classics in the last 10 years . All went over 100000 miles . His present bike has 126 000 miles .
What! And they say Twin Cams are crap buy an Evo. 🙀 And yes I have a TC88 and all is good.
Love to see it!
My 05 RK ,I have 78,000.88 ci
2012 EG owned since new. Over 100k. At 85k, installed new OEM cams, tensioners, timken bearings. Top end was clean. Mobil 1 every 5k.
All bearings replaced in wheels, chassis. And it still gets compliments.
Meh, I just ride.
Also have 98 Springer ST & 09 Street Glide.
Awesome bikes. Take care of them.
2014 Ultra with 70k on it. Before i owned a Harley i fell into the "They are junk" like most of internet. Bought it with 20k, 3 hole oil change every 5K not one issue.
15.000 miles on my 1997 fat boy
I hade a red 04 Wide Glide that looked very similar to this👊🏻
A couple years ago, there was an article in the HOG magazine about a guy that put 100k miles on a new Road Glide in a yr. Just did the normal servicing along the way. He rode an Iron Butt essentially everyday on it. I have no idea what the Harley haters think their bikes do better in the real world.
Anyone with a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, or Kawasaki has an infinitely better bike than a pos Harley
Harleys are trash for bald fat old men
Awesome love stories like that
I ride an 05 ST Deluxe.
89K miles; running and looking great!
Those cam tensioners shoes though...dude.
@@ananda_miaoyin the tensioners aren’t as much of a common problem as people think and most of the time when it is a problem the chain is the issue because it wasn’t finished properly and it cut into the tensioner.
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcycles I have read that myself. You are correct. It just sucks that a wear item is such a bitch to replace - especially the inside one!
It's not really got 190k on it then if it was rebuilt
@@inout3513 you don’t sent your odometer back to zero after you rebuild an engine bud lol
I had a 2010 Softail Custom which I bought in 2016 that had 2660 miles on and at trade in had 143136 miles on it. Compensator, charging system and cam chain tensioners were the only things I had to do other than usual maintenance.
I have an 05 Dyna with lots of work done to it, stage two, suspension and otherwise, many things, it has 75,000 mi and runs great. I love that bike
6:59 there is a fine line between lugging and low RPM. as long as you don’t cross that line, low RPM is fine ..,
200000 klms on my dyna great bikes
It’s quite amazing really. Very well made engines. Had a 2003 FXST and now have a 2005 Heritage Softail Springer both had/have lots of KMs and still running strong. Lots of highway miles.
Theyre slow pieces of sht
Long live the Wide Glide!
That leaked and sucked lol 😂
I run a 2001 Wide Glide, 95 kit with stage 3, stored for the season with 254,145 kilometres (157,823 miles), engine never opened, runs like the day I bought it.
@@kevint907 that’s awesome!!!
You said Stage 3 so the engine has definitely been opened. Cams cylinders piston so basically a rebuild lol
Has he changed the cam support plate to the upgraded hydraulic cam chain tensioners?
@@HellfighterPreacherman I believe that was done at just under 150K when the engine was rebuilt. I like the S&S gear driven cam set up.
@@MasonGeorgeMotorcycles yes, that all depends on the runnout.
What make of oil did he use ?
@@earlmarsh2285 he said he’s used a couple different brands but always full synthetic. I put Amsoil in it.
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EVO ENGINE?
@@jayfurness6695 twin cam
The gayest motorcycles known to man. I'll stick with my FJRs.
Not blowing smoke at all or embellishing my time and miles on the road. Over a 19 year period I rode my 1952 Panhead for right at 211k miles. At least a dozen top end rebuilds and 2 lower end rebuilds. 2 transmissions replacements with 4 speeds and lots of chains. Probably close to 50 rear tires and maybe 25 front tires.
I wrecked her for the last time and broke the left case and twisted the original wishbone rigid frame. I still have her but in order to repair it I need to replace the cases therefore I lose my vin. 52FL2272.
I bought a 2010 Ultra Classic and what a difference! I have 82k miles on this one and the engine is tired. And so am I.
@@MicheluceRizzuto that’s super impressive!