The most notorious scientific feud in history - Lukas Rieppel

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  • @robertsawdon4077
    @robertsawdon4077 3 года назад +3008

    This sounded less like a rivalry, and more like Marsh routinely wiping the floor with Cope

    • @Yorick257
      @Yorick257 3 года назад +42

      Exactly!

    • @triccele
      @triccele 3 года назад +278

      To be fair, several of the species Marsh named were not real species, many were just diferent individuals of the same creature

    • @jiameiwang9741
      @jiameiwang9741 3 года назад +6

      FALSTAFF !!!!

    • @myczxr
      @myczxr 3 года назад +3

      honestly

    • @jackattack8661
      @jackattack8661 3 года назад +69

      It was not nearly as one sided as this video claims

  • @puneetmishra4726
    @puneetmishra4726 3 года назад +5391

    Is it only me who finds Cope "donating his brain to prove that he has larger mind" insanely hilarious?

    • @kobe51
      @kobe51 3 года назад +81

      "How's that funny?"
      - Donald Trump

    • @TheMightyN
      @TheMightyN 3 года назад +121

      Science has proven that our brains do grow when it comes to intelligence--albeit temporary. The common analogy our science teachers explain, the brain is similar to a sponge--it absorbs all knowledge until it resets itself filtering out any information useless. So, it wasn't entirely farfetched for Cope to assume this theory--and that's the beauty of science compared to just naming a few dozen bones. Nevertheless, Cope contributed his body to science to help us understand our human biology while apparently Marsh didn't do too much after he was granted a sliver patter due to his close connections with the science community. And ironically, most of Marsh's discoveries were either renamed, forgotten, or became a nomen dubious genus while most of Cope's findings are still household names to both science and the general public: Elamosaurus, Tylosaurus, Edaphosaurus, Clidastes, Camarasaurus, and Coelophysis are among this list.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 3 года назад +9

      Yeah and smaller brains are actually ironically smarter which is odd but true.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 3 года назад +7

      @@TheMightyN I think he was trying to measure physical size.

    • @TheMightyN
      @TheMightyN 3 года назад +7

      @@shambhav9534 Either way, the incentive to study our bodies was partly thanks to Cope.

  • @stanacc6999
    @stanacc6999 3 года назад +2929

    He just couldn't cope with his rival's unrelenting marsh forward

  • @Cheshire1501
    @Cheshire1501 3 года назад +5649

    They literally had a bone to pick with each other

    • @letsgetreal2501
      @letsgetreal2501 3 года назад +21

      Too obvious, dude. Try harder.

    • @ephsee8669
      @ephsee8669 3 года назад +22

      This comment gunna get like 10k likes

    • @Dimitri88888888
      @Dimitri88888888 3 года назад +73

      @@letsgetreal2501 hey, settle down now ok?

    • @SCP--fj2jr
      @SCP--fj2jr 3 года назад +23

      @@letsgetreal2501
      *Well, That Pun Was Gonna Come.*

    • @maddyjoh8488
      @maddyjoh8488 3 года назад +37

      @@letsgetreal2501 No knees to be rude 😁

  • @alaskawashington
    @alaskawashington 3 года назад +596

    I really like the way TED presents the “moral of the story” at the end of this one. It’s such a crucial concept.

  • @cheryl9809
    @cheryl9809 3 года назад +4260

    A true rivalry to the death with attempts to compare post mortem brain sizes

    • @aryan201
      @aryan201 3 года назад +94

      quite mind-blowing

    • @Sumirevins
      @Sumirevins 3 года назад +34

      Given Mental Capacities are independent of Brain Size and solely depends on number of neural connections within the caranium. That they didn't had any Technology to measure in 1897.I thinking that move was Pretty ridiculous and Only Show stupidity of cope

    • @gregmiller9710
      @gregmiller9710 3 года назад +1

      ..haha...i lil past that even..:D

    • @Sean_Connery
      @Sean_Connery 3 года назад +17

      @@Sumirevins i think cope knew marsh would decline and felt like as long as he had the last word, despite its stupidity, he still *won. Ironically, this proved him to be the lesser intellectual like you said

    • @solar0wind
      @solar0wind 3 года назад +20

      @@Sumirevins Yeah, many scientists back then were soo arrogant and thought they knew it all. "Science" back then was often used to confirm biases and even racism. Even races were invented in that spirit. Some guy who collected skulls took the largest European skull he could find and the smallest skulls of other origins and compared them in size, and obviously the European skull had the biggest volume, so he concluded that Europeans are the smartest and then went on to divide other people into races, even though the categories were different than today. I don't get why people think that races are a biological reality when their definitions have changed so much (they were disproven by genetic study). So yeah, that's why we have races, and that's what people called science back in the day and used to justify their horrible views.

  • @rin-rin4078
    @rin-rin4078 3 года назад +653

    Seeing those guys break bones that are millions of years older than them makes me wince

    • @henrylivingstone2971
      @henrylivingstone2971 3 года назад +7

      Uh....you didn’t see anything of the sort. You saw a cartoon depicting the scene. The actual event happened nearly a century ago.

    • @woodfur00
      @woodfur00 3 года назад +94

      @@henrylivingstone2971 Thanks for clearing that up /s

    • @jjOnceAgain
      @jjOnceAgain 3 года назад

      Well, technically they're just rocks

    • @bardiabasiri3857
      @bardiabasiri3857 3 года назад +18

      @@jjOnceAgain There fossilized bones not rocks.

    • @PelagiMilitis
      @PelagiMilitis 3 года назад +5

      Technically it's all just a simulation because we're all in the matrix

  • @annalittlemonster901
    @annalittlemonster901 3 года назад +858

    Imagine how many prehistoric fossils/remains would have been lost and destroyed due to this feud

    • @n.s.mcmahon6180
      @n.s.mcmahon6180 3 года назад +23

      At least six...

    • @chesscom6199
      @chesscom6199 3 года назад +53

      But Also imagine the advances science made because of it.

    • @AryanSharma-qj4eu
      @AryanSharma-qj4eu 3 года назад +59

      @@chesscom6199 but more it could have made if ego would not be there

    • @jjOnceAgain
      @jjOnceAgain 3 года назад +22

      From what I've read, they only destroyed either fossils they already had plenty of or worthless mix mashes of incomplete bones and fragments

    • @parthpiyushprasad709
      @parthpiyushprasad709 3 года назад +19

      I think the feud made more scientific discoveries than it lost tbh

  • @mudbucket1354
    @mudbucket1354 3 года назад +174

    one of my favourite stories in fossil history

  • @abhishekpattanayak1443
    @abhishekpattanayak1443 3 года назад +1492

    *"Wealthy pompous businessmen bullies fellow skinny bankrupt scientist!"*
    Me: *I have seen this one before!*
    (*cough cough* Edison-Tesla feuds *cough*)

    • @srtghfnbfg
      @srtghfnbfg 3 года назад +16

      This is so underrated x']

    • @gautamjuyal
      @gautamjuyal 3 года назад +7

      So true.

    • @chesscom6199
      @chesscom6199 3 года назад +82

      Lol the only difference is marsh was right in his research and debunking his opponent while Edison we all know. Everyone of them was a great scientists tho.

    • @jjOnceAgain
      @jjOnceAgain 3 года назад +24

      The difference is both paleontologist are revered rightfully in their field; while Edison is responsible (directly or indirectly) for more practical and important inventions; while his opponent is extremely overated and half of the stories of his magnificent inventions were made up or exaggerated

    • @ZOCCOK
      @ZOCCOK 3 года назад +65

      @@jjOnceAgain Tesla was great scientist in his own right with making one of the most significant invention in modern times (The AC Current is the reason as to why we can use electricity to such a high degree of efficiency).
      Edison was a great inventor as well credited with inventing some of the world's most celebrated inventions but he was know to be quite egotistical at times and would go to severe lengths to make sure that his reputation would never be outshone by any other person.

  • @gideonbrown4215
    @gideonbrown4215 3 года назад +96

    Can you imagine the level of knowledge we could've gained (or maybe even lost) if these two had worked together?

  • @pritamptr662
    @pritamptr662 3 года назад +467

    Ross would have joined them if got a chance.

    • @aryan201
      @aryan201 3 года назад +31

      all you needed to defeat Ross is steal his sandwich

    • @jaypat2546
      @jaypat2546 3 года назад +14

      Yes his contribution would have been pivotal

    • @pavan3634
      @pavan3634 3 года назад +8

      Relax guys, Ross is on a break

  • @imshruu3418
    @imshruu3418 3 года назад +581

    Cope had mistaken the creature's long neck for his tail😂😂
    *TRUE SCIENTIST*

    • @linhhoang1363
      @linhhoang1363 3 года назад +14

      Must admit I mistook it as well first time watching this video

    • @imshruu3418
      @imshruu3418 3 года назад +3

      @@linhhoang1363 😁😂

    • @paleoph6168
      @paleoph6168 3 года назад +40

      TBF, even scientists make mistakes, and prehistoric creatures weren't too well-known (anatomically speaking) since their fossilised remains were just being discovered.
      Besides, what modern day analogue do we have for these creatures, especially dinosaurs and other prehistoric reptiles? Not much.
      As a result, early reconstructions were what we now consider anatomically incorrect. For instance: one of the early reconstructions of Stegosaurus was depicted with an arched back.

    • @davidebic
      @davidebic 3 года назад +18

      Science is based on failure. As Popper stated, a theory is scientific as long as it can be proven false. Science is pretty much just an endless cycle of theories being proposed and either proven wrong by counterparts or remaining out there. It's an endless process of trial and error.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 5 месяцев назад

      Bones are not easy to analyze. Until very recently most reconstructions of dinosaurs could only work with broken bones.

  • @wormswithteeth
    @wormswithteeth 3 года назад +205

    We need a film of *The Bone Wars*

    • @markusnavergard2387
      @markusnavergard2387 3 года назад +8

      you need a whole show. and there has been many plans to make such a thing. but they all been cancelled

    • @justayoutuber1906
      @justayoutuber1906 3 года назад +1

      I saw that on Cinemax

    • @venkatasrikanth245
      @venkatasrikanth245 3 года назад +1

      Stone wars

    • @Rodanguirus
      @Rodanguirus 3 года назад +2

      There's a pretty entertaining historical fiction book by Michael Crichton (or at least, allegedly edited from his manuscript and published posthumously) called Dragon Teeth.

    • @oscarc.3597
      @oscarc.3597 2 года назад

      Or an Oversimplified video.

  • @AzurBarnitzke
    @AzurBarnitzke 3 года назад +84

    Cope definitely took the phrase "Mocking your enemy from your graveyard" too literally.

  • @Oatmeal_Queen
    @Oatmeal_Queen 3 года назад +375

    "Desperate Paleontologists" would be a great name for this reality TV series you're pitching here TED-Ed

    • @abhiroopdas3232
      @abhiroopdas3232 3 года назад +7

      Starring Ross Geller.

    • @parthpiyushprasad709
      @parthpiyushprasad709 3 года назад +1

      I would pay millions to watch the scene where he donates his brain to show his brain is larger lol

    • @xb70valkyriech
      @xb70valkyriech 3 года назад +1

      Only on the history channel

  • @shivannapv4262
    @shivannapv4262 3 года назад +471

    All the 'cope' puns aside, is everyone gonna ignore that his name was Edward *Drinker* Cope?
    seems like a strange middle name lol

    • @reese9705
      @reese9705 3 года назад +27

      I’m guessing he was an alcoholic lol

    • @parthpiyushprasad709
      @parthpiyushprasad709 3 года назад +28

      It's the 1800's man, drinker is like normal

    • @JohnnyAngel8
      @JohnnyAngel8 3 года назад +7

      Maybe it was his mother's maiden name.

    • @davinci2810
      @davinci2810 3 года назад +14

      I mean the S in CS Lewis (the guy from Narnia) stands for "Staples" so, not the weirdest one out there

    • @WilliamChoochootrain
      @WilliamChoochootrain 3 года назад +19

      I mean, Benedict Crumblebumble is a thing, so I don't think this is that out of the ordinary.

  • @ShortHax
    @ShortHax 3 года назад +3282

    Of course the guy born to a rich family with a wimpy moustache lost. Someone should’ve told him to cope harder

    • @shivajidhawale5475
      @shivajidhawale5475 3 года назад +23

      Wow

    • @walnutalpaca8608
      @walnutalpaca8608 3 года назад +30

      Hello Mr Verified, first time being able to rely early to your comments

    • @shivajidhawale5475
      @shivajidhawale5475 3 года назад +5

      Ello I see u everywhere in ted ed videos!

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 3 года назад +90

      Wasn’t the other guy richer?

    • @baz1184
      @baz1184 3 года назад +165

      @@grimaffiliations3671 and the other guy was the one who was committing bribery and intentionally embarrassing Cope the whole time. Plus March was even destroying fossils so Cope couldn't have them even though Marsh himself didn't want them.
      It seems people in these comments are only on Marsh's side because he won.

  • @inaliann
    @inaliann 3 года назад +74

    What was relation between Marsh and Cope?
    They have bone to pick.

  • @jefuryo
    @jefuryo 3 года назад +73

    Throwing shade to Branson vs. Bezos haha!!!! VERY TIMELY!

    • @rangv733
      @rangv733 3 года назад +3

      So who's Marsh and who's Cope?

    • @jefuryo
      @jefuryo 3 года назад +7

      @@rangv733 Only history and time will tell.

    • @kingdinodragonite3470
      @kingdinodragonite3470 3 года назад +2

      @@rangv733 Marsh is Bezos because he is richer?

    • @luklov8801
      @luklov8801 3 года назад +1

      @@kingdinodragonite3470 But branson's already succeeded

  • @letsgetreal2501
    @letsgetreal2501 3 года назад +74

    If only Marsh had accepted the challenge...imagine the portraits could've been of their brains instead.

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 3 года назад +25

    You guys should do a video on Heinrich Schliemann. He was one of the first “Archeologists” in the modern age and most likely found the city of Troy, but he destroyed dozens of artifacts in pursuit of wealth and had a pretty crazy/sketchy life before that.

  • @chinesecabbagefarmer
    @chinesecabbagefarmer 3 года назад +11

    Yes! The classic Leibniz vs. Newton! I'm so certain that this is what the video covers, and so familiar with the feud, that I don't even have to watch it to know. This was a great video, thanks for sharing!

    • @BobHutton
      @BobHutton 2 года назад +2

      Or Newton v Hooke.

  • @망고스틴껍질
    @망고스틴껍질 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'M TOTALLY OBSESSED WITH THE ARTWORK
    So awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jlee4039
    @jlee4039 3 года назад +99

    An interesting story from the Gilded Age as we contend with two spoiled billionaires competing to become the first space tourist.

    • @chrisdominguez5097
      @chrisdominguez5097 3 года назад +10

      Their money, their choice.
      Also if Branson and Bezos were actually spoiled, it was themselves who did the spoiling. They became billionaires by the sheer merit of their achievements.

    • @peel8043
      @peel8043 3 года назад +4

      Bruh this is basically an advancement in science tf u talking about

    • @cevcena6692
      @cevcena6692 3 года назад +6

      Their ambition is paving the way for all of us to get to space, first the elites, then in a hundred years, maybe it'll be as simple as riding a bus

    • @peel8043
      @peel8043 3 года назад +1

      @@cevcena6692 isnt that a good thing

    • @chrisdominguez5097
      @chrisdominguez5097 3 года назад +1

      @@peel8043 Course it is.

  • @justaman9344
    @justaman9344 3 года назад +176

    Ah yes, that time when two people played jigsaw puzzles with Dinosaur fossils

  • @kirthanasivakumar640
    @kirthanasivakumar640 3 года назад +27

    Can't believe I'm early to a ted ed video!!

    • @kbjejuzbtpobxbof5514
      @kbjejuzbtpobxbof5514 3 года назад +1

      Mee toooooo

    • @Itakion
      @Itakion 3 года назад +1

      Heck yeah! Usually the ones I watch are at least a day or two old. I made it!

  • @anonymoususer638
    @anonymoususer638 3 года назад +2

    Nothing encourages progress more than a rivalry

  • @iuvyne
    @iuvyne 3 года назад +99

    “By his own admission, he wasn’t constructed for getting along comfortably with the general run of people.”
    okay but my weird and chaotic introverted self relates to this on a spiritual level

    • @markusnavergard2387
      @markusnavergard2387 3 года назад +2

      Cope was a gentleman scholar. If i recall he came from wealth, so he was Upperclass from the get go. Marsh was not poor, but he did not have the same background as Cope.

  • @unrellated
    @unrellated 3 года назад +10

    "Bone Wars" sounds like something from a fantasy novel, a great battle against a necromancer.

  • @hippotripo6145
    @hippotripo6145 3 года назад +29

    “Edward Drinker Cope”
    Now hold on we don’t need to talk about how he deals with life issues

  • @thulasi1798
    @thulasi1798 3 года назад +42

    Cope: Hey Marsh, look at this long tailed dinosaur
    Marsh: SO, YOU HAVE CHOSEN NECK!

  • @shubhajoshi9505
    @shubhajoshi9505 3 года назад +35

    The animation is so good, just like watching a very good animated movie.

  • @marksmusings670
    @marksmusings670 3 года назад +7

    Michael Crichton’s novel Dragon Teeth provides some insight into this rivalry.

  • @demonic77_77
    @demonic77_77 3 года назад +14

    *Ted-Ed* you are the best ! I always like to learn new things, and you help me a lot in this regard. I can't express my love for you *Ted-Ed* . Thank you sooooo much !

  • @fredericklang9982
    @fredericklang9982 3 года назад +22

    This kind of sounds like the gravel wars from TF2

  • @longerthanyouthink
    @longerthanyouthink 3 года назад +20

    I've never seen so many puns in a single comments section. I just can't cope with it

    • @jjOnceAgain
      @jjOnceAgain 3 года назад

      There's not. There's 2 puns reused. "a bone to pick" and "coping". That's practically it

  • @rizkybraymango9655
    @rizkybraymango9655 3 года назад +1

    Imagined being so angry towards other person and your angry became future generation's blessing.

  • @hautakleightontam771
    @hautakleightontam771 3 года назад +3

    Indeed, Cope practically lost his mind with rage.

  • @satriyono1
    @satriyono1 3 года назад +1

    Love the artworks here, and very informative too as usual, top notch👍

  • @SCP--fj2jr
    @SCP--fj2jr 3 года назад +42

    _"science is a personal enterprise conducted by individual-and at times deeply flawed-human beings."_
    *Science In A Nutshell*

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +8

      Scientific Research and Publishing in a nutshell. You'd be surprised by the craziness happening behind the scenes: the tampering of data, the slide of quality in peer review, the bribery, the threats against junior assistants, the publication of objectionable theses...

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 3 года назад +2

      @@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Not at all. That might have happened in the past but not in modern times, you need to prove any of that because scientists nowadays try to be logical and rational as possible if they're going to agree if something is true, makes sense, and it should be publicly announced to be accurate after all the researching since scientific publishment is take extremely seriously in institutes in order for people to take them seriously as they can't afford mistakes..

  • @BoyProdigyX
    @BoyProdigyX Год назад +4

    I literally thought about this story's moral earlier today! I was learning about ancient languages that hadn't been decoded, and how many of the "scientists" who discovered them greedily stole the relics away, just so they could be the one to decipher it (The Rosetta Stone and Linear B specifically come to mind). There's science for the sake of knowledge and enlightenment, and then there's science for the sake of fame, glory and profit. You'd hope we'd have grown since then, but then there's incidents like the Viktor Ninov scandal, the particle physics arms race, and the new space race we're dealing with still today, so...

  • @MarcTelang
    @MarcTelang 3 года назад +27

    Cope can't cope with his mistake

  • @Kriegerdammerung
    @Kriegerdammerung 3 года назад +21

    - Yes, Tesla and Edison are the greatest rivals in scientific history
    - You know nothing, mate!

  • @arakachukwunweike7259
    @arakachukwunweike7259 3 года назад +9

    At least they found “Copious” amount of bones

  • @TheGOAT_
    @TheGOAT_ 3 года назад +2

    YES! As a palaeontologist, I love this

  • @micahbush5397
    @micahbush5397 3 года назад +3

    As the mentor of a friend of mine once said a great scientist is ideally likeable, gets quick results, and is really good at what he or she does, but two out of three is usually enough to be successful. I guess we should add deep pockets to the list, at least for this era of discovery.

    • @Yorick257
      @Yorick257 3 года назад +1

      Or at least having a silver tongue. A lot can be done if you can persuade powerful enough people

  • @Altmetalpunk
    @Altmetalpunk 3 года назад

    This came up on a podcast I listen to a few weeks back. Such an insane feud.

  • @nutzo4402
    @nutzo4402 3 года назад +8

    Theory: The Gravel Wars in TF2 were inspired by the Bone Wars.

  • @riverofstyx2319
    @riverofstyx2319 3 года назад

    This is now my favorite science feud 😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @zackattackjoseph7279
    @zackattackjoseph7279 3 года назад +35

    It’s not really an “accusation” of bribery when the person “accused” traded currency for a benefit (which also happened to come at the expense of another), is it?

    • @Ditidos
      @Ditidos 3 года назад +5

      It is an accusation, but it isn't a false one.

    • @aoikemono6414
      @aoikemono6414 3 года назад +1

      More like backstabbing and treachery.

  • @swastiksahu6889
    @swastiksahu6889 3 года назад

    These is one of the most exciting and entertaining ted ed videos I've watched

  • @atomsmasher9595
    @atomsmasher9595 3 года назад +13

    The two smartest kids in the class fighting be like:

  • @Pallum13
    @Pallum13 3 года назад +1

    This would make a great film

  • @altinmares8363
    @altinmares8363 3 года назад +10

    Please post more videos about
    -Aristotle teaching Alexander the great
    -Islamic golden age (achievements,discoveries)
    -Plato,Socrates,Aristotle teachings
    -Tengrism religion
    -Astronomy in Ottoman Empire
    -Aristotle writings
    I'm waiting for...

  • @jackobrien3574
    @jackobrien3574 3 года назад +2

    If you want to delve deeper the author of Jurassic Park ( Michael Crichton’s estate) published a book back in 2013 I think. It’s called Dragon Teeth, and it delves into the Cope/Marsh rivalry and some western people alive and active at the time, including Wyatt Earp and Calamity Jane. It’s a really fun and interesting read, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @jfei64
    @jfei64 3 года назад +4

    Wow. Before even clicking on the link I was thinking of this feud specifically. A speaker at a natural history museum told us the story and it always bothered me that they were destroying fossils as part of their feud. I was so surprised when I nailed it. One thing we were told is that Marsh named coprolites after Cope as an insult and when you didn't mention it I got curious and looked into if there is any truth to that story. Turns out that it's a pretty common myth but just a myth and absolutely not true. Probably why you guys didn't mention it :p.

  • @noisy99_
    @noisy99_ 3 года назад

    At first seeing the thumbnail, I thought that this will be about the classic physics vs. quantum physics feud, but boy this one was blazin'

  • @sebastianelytron8450
    @sebastianelytron8450 3 года назад +16

    This is the only kind of war this world needs more of.

  • @DreamDaddie
    @DreamDaddie 3 года назад

    Trippy that these two spent so much time feuding that they uncovered quite a few new fossils in the process.

  • @manf1sh995
    @manf1sh995 3 года назад +25

    *The most notorious scientific feud in history*
    The chicken and the egg: _Are we a joke to you?_

    • @Think_Inc
      @Think_Inc 3 года назад

      The egg came first ‘cause evolution.

  • @thecarnivore3799
    @thecarnivore3799 3 года назад +2

    we need more Scientific competition so that we can get more ted ed videos like this

  • @cancerino666
    @cancerino666 3 года назад +3

    What I got out of this is that March was a ruthless very self centered individual, who didn't mind how many fossils were destroyed if nobody else got to publish about them.

  • @norvemer5613
    @norvemer5613 3 года назад

    This is so interesting. Nobody told me about this feud. Thanks TedEd❤️

  • @BoogerFart956
    @BoogerFart956 3 года назад +3

    I’m still waiting for Ted himself to show up for the talk.

  • @xaviermantha63
    @xaviermantha63 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @kvassmacncheese
    @kvassmacncheese 3 года назад +11

    why would someone downvote this in the first minute

    • @spongeOfMystery4
      @spongeOfMystery4 3 года назад +1

      Cause their salty from losing the "war"

    • @Alfa-uu7zb
      @Alfa-uu7zb 3 года назад +1

      They probably saw someone with a red bow and a blue scarf and thought this was something political…

    • @vincenttt8289
      @vincenttt8289 3 года назад

      because they thought "bone wars" was something nsfw

    • @srtghfnbfg
      @srtghfnbfg 3 года назад

      I'm #12 and it's because i hate seeing 2 rich bastards wasting money on very petty things, including destroying invaluable samples just to sabotage another.
      Btw Marsh did well to refuse the brain-size challenge, it was probably tiny.

  • @alparslankorkmaz2964
    @alparslankorkmaz2964 3 года назад +2

    Nice video.

  • @jamiehall1460
    @jamiehall1460 3 года назад +5

    Some of the quarries Marsh supposedly had blown up where really just covered over, so the bones left behind are still there and hopefully we can get them.
    I also think it was Marsh who would name every single bone he had a new species, so he ended up naming something like 14 kinds fo triceratops but really we only have two (and maybe three)

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah Marsh only really "won" because he kept claiming to find new species with every new discovery.

  • @minibagels
    @minibagels 3 года назад

    I liked the comic relief added in this informative talk

  • @jisspalelil9450
    @jisspalelil9450 3 года назад +6

    Unable to cope up with the Bone Wars, Joseph Leidy, a man who followed more scientific and methodological quest for paleontological discoveries, abandoned the field all together. If interested, read more about him! ✨️

    • @markusnavergard2387
      @markusnavergard2387 3 года назад +3

      he just went " iam sick of you guys and your damn drama, i just wanna study dinosaurs! I am out!"

  • @lalsagar4666
    @lalsagar4666 3 года назад

    Your videos are very helpful

  • @thefroag1128
    @thefroag1128 3 года назад +4

    This is really interesting.

  • @silvle01
    @silvle01 3 года назад

    Love the old West music for this one. TED-ED knows how to spin a yarn

  • @Hershewed
    @Hershewed 3 года назад +3

    Ah yes, my favorite scientific fuse of petty revenge and dinosaur bones, I love paleontology 😍

  • @mr.markofski4267
    @mr.markofski4267 3 года назад

    Brings a whole new meaning to “copium”

  • @HellsideBurnton
    @HellsideBurnton 3 года назад +12

    Imagine if this feud happend on Twitter, theres gonna be chaos between one side and the other, forcing people to choose sides.

    • @jjOnceAgain
      @jjOnceAgain 3 года назад

      We call that Minecraft Streamer Twitters

    • @Oaglor
      @Oaglor 3 года назад

      And nothing would end up being done in the process.

  • @Freesmilesforeveryone
    @Freesmilesforeveryone 3 года назад

    Never ever ever knew about this, but very interesting. Thanks ted-ed :)

  • @miavo1240
    @miavo1240 3 года назад +7

    Who would think that paleontologists could have such feuds

    • @kingofworms831
      @kingofworms831 3 года назад

      Apparently there was also a big argument as to how the dinosaurs died

  • @pontifexmaximoose7433
    @pontifexmaximoose7433 3 года назад +1

    YOOO!!! Ohmhayghad I recognize this story!!! I read it in a old Dinosaur Book that my Mom bought for me when I was like 8 yrs old.. Damn what are the odds of bumping in this story again

  • @wajid2004khan
    @wajid2004khan 3 года назад +3

    Still Edison VS Tesla is the biggest science rivalry

  • @immyownperson1375
    @immyownperson1375 3 года назад

    I love these opening quote, it's such a mood😂

  • @shiprapaul2033
    @shiprapaul2033 3 года назад +5

    Imagine if cope lost it in the Brain size competition too.

  • @all3ykat79
    @all3ykat79 3 года назад

    this has been in, and ignored, in my feed for days. if I'd known it was geologically based I would have clicked straight away. I'm trying to train the algorithm... and I think it's working for bone-rocks (fossils) to stick around waiting for my clock. thanks.

  • @letsgetreal2501
    @letsgetreal2501 3 года назад +10

    Imagine how it would've all unfolded if both had started out poor...

  • @knightofarkronia9968
    @knightofarkronia9968 Год назад +2

    ‘Bone Wars?’ More like ‘Bone-Head Wars!’

  • @AbrahamSamma
    @AbrahamSamma 3 года назад +3

    Rivalry in scientific research can you reach ridiculous heights.

  • @rachelbockrath6276
    @rachelbockrath6276 3 года назад +1

    I saw the title, and immediately went "that's got to be Marsh and Cope, right?" Funny that I feel like they are more famous for their rivalry than their science.

  • @casparvoncampenhausen5249
    @casparvoncampenhausen5249 3 года назад +11

    Cope be like "I've got a bigger one"

  • @overcookedbbqchicken5235
    @overcookedbbqchicken5235 2 месяца назад

    Someone should make a miniseries about this

  • @sliceolifer
    @sliceolifer 3 года назад +23

    27 seconds 27 views perfectly balanced.

  • @LifeUntilLove
    @LifeUntilLove 3 года назад +2

    I will say, as far as rivalries go, this seems decently one-sided. Marsh had the money, the prestige, and the resources while Cope did not. However, I love the animation as usual!

  • @ASLTheatre
    @ASLTheatre 3 года назад +8

    Imagine what we could of gained if they worked together.

    • @TheAlps36
      @TheAlps36 3 года назад +5

      I'm not so sure - I think their competitive rivalry is what made them so driven

    • @ASLTheatre
      @ASLTheatre 3 года назад +2

      You have a good point but they also spent much of their time and money to hurting each other.

  • @alkasaket379
    @alkasaket379 3 года назад +1

    I love Teded Videos

  • @thoughtfuldevil6069
    @thoughtfuldevil6069 3 года назад +3

    This would have been a fantastic chance to re-use the Demon of Reason.

    • @ghmongo
      @ghmongo 3 года назад

      I think it's the same voice actor too.

  • @chanbricks4461
    @chanbricks4461 3 года назад +10

    The earliest fight that started with dinosaur figurine collecting

  • @nitinsaxena4906
    @nitinsaxena4906 3 года назад +2

    AWESOME VID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @joshuagcwong734
    @joshuagcwong734 3 года назад +4

    Seem that Marsh started the pettiness so...

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 3 года назад

    A this story of scientific discovery and furious feuds deserves a dramatic comedy film of its own.

  • @MasterCivilEngineering
    @MasterCivilEngineering 3 года назад +8

    Only the dead have seen the end of war!