Michael Sandel vs Adrian Wooldridge on Meritocracy
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2021
- Micheal Sandel and Adrian Wooldridge go head to head in this debate on meritocracy. Meritocracy has long been an article of faith in the modern Western world. Get an education, work hard and the rewards of success will be yours, regardless of class, privilege or wealth. But recently meritocracy has come under attack, with the charge led by Michael Sandel, the Harvard philosopher whose public debates on how we define the common good have won him a global following.
But not everyone agrees. Taking issue with much of Sandel’s arguments is Adrian Wooldridge, the political editor at The Economist. In this week's debate they argue whether we need more or less meritocracy in society. The host is BBC broadcaster Ritula Shah.
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Actually, we practically live in an aristocracy rather than a meritocracy. I'll give one example. I applied to UCLA's school of film and animation and was one of only seven students chosen for the program. The competition was fierce but my abilities opened the door for me. Up to that point we have a meritocracy. But when I discovered that since I was an out-of-state student my fees were triple that of someone who resided in California and that my first year would have set me back about $100,000, I told the head of the program that I needed to see if I could get the money for that. He said, okay, but hurry it up because if you cannot attend, we have to go DOWN the list of applicants. I decided I couldn't afford it and they then chose a less qualified candidate merely because they had more money. No doubt, a kid with rich parents. That sort of devolution in selection of "talent" is happening all the time and in fields much more important than film and animation. What about medicine? Maybe the doctor making decisions on your health is some chump whose parents could afford their tuition even though they barely squeaked by the tests. Something to think about. Might be a contributing factor behind why the third leading cause of death in the USA is doctors making poor medical choices.
Thank you Mr. Sandel for introducing me to your lectures on Justice and John Rawls. The discussions and debates in your series among your students engaged me and made me challenge my previously held beliefs and understandings of the way the world works. What a time to be alive, where someone like me has access to this kind of content.
I noticed how several people in the comments seem appalled by the idea that Michael Sandel is objecting to the idea of "merit". But that is not the case.
This is primarily just a semantic debate between allocating opportunities to talent vs. do you ‘deserve’ your talent. They should clarified their definition of meritocracy at the start.
Meritocracy is about the outcome of talents plus efforts. The harsh reality is that not all are born equal. The smart has a easier path than the less smart to achieve the same outcome, other things being equal. Also. rewards for the outcome are not linear. Meritocracy inadvertently create inequality. It needs to be moderated to maintain sense of equality.
# IQ² Thank you: Great discussion, meritocracy offers some a competitive edge and opportunity for recognition and esteem.
So are one of these 2 guys saying that whatever success he has achieved wasn't based on his own merits?
The person who choses to peruse a carrier becoming an academic in most cases has enough family wealth as a safety net. So it's not just intelligence and hard work .
Great discussion! Though they don't seem to agree on the definition of meritocracy.
These academics fail to realize the drive parents have to leave a legacy to their children.
More and more meritocracy with absolutely no chance for corruption
We need more of it.
Wonderful debate. Michael is the best one to articulate the more human approach of equal opportunity and the dignity of life based on moral principle.
I'd like to see Sandel debate Jordan Peterson on this topic.
This is such a wonderful conversation.
Saying winners don’t deserve their winnings is pure insanity from a useless academic- sandel
Sandels ideas are insane.
A very engaging debate, full of deep insights. It is nobody's case that merit is a better yardstick to judge a person than the accident of birth. Adrian Wooldridge is right to an extent in placing faith in Meritocracy but he also agrees that there are issues. Prof. Michael Sandel is as persuasive as ever and he effectively brings out the problems of the current incarnation of Meritocracy. A number of comments on the video miss the basic point Prof. Sandel was making that current day Meritocracy has turned into another form of aristocracy with the rich spending a lot to train / tutor their progenies - whether one likes it or not but it creates an unfair playing field and creates Hubris - as he has famously said in few of his other talks on the sunject - They inhale their success too deeply.
Love Sandel[s thoughts. Would love to hear more solutions though.
Could you please tell which societies are non meritocratic?