Say Goodbye to BIG Air Conditioners - This Tiny Portable AC Blows them Away!
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- The Ecoflow Wave 2 is the first portable HEAT PUMP providing AIR CONDITIONING & HEATING in one super efficient, dual-hose appliance. Low power and tiny, makes it perfect for small spaces.
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I got an email from ecoflow yesterday. They featured you!
It looked so small by the spark plug, but then realized it's a giant spark plug.
Yeah, he got me.
Yeah, he clickbaited well. Got a thumbs down for it, too.
That's funny as hell!
That is really funny. Made my day!
I love the idea of being able to dry camp or boondock in my camper yet still have air conditioning.
It works very well for that, the output is amazing and you can do heat too if you need it.
I wanted to design one of these for many years (I am an engineer at heart). Glad someone finally did.
I have one, get the battery. Works better for a tiny home that is insulated than a 28 foot RV that is not 4 season or insulated. I have a dedicated solar panel for it. So assume if poor insulation might not be big enough. Outside of that I like it.
I don't understand the claim at 0:52 that in a big space it doesn't matter if the exhaust isn't ducted to the outside. If the exhaust isn't ducted away, the average temperature of the space will keep rising gradually (due to the power consumed by the device) and only the zone in front of the cool air flow will get a cooling benefit. That seems similar to an ordinary portable fan, which produces a breeze that cools who it's aimed at (a wind chill). A fan is much cheaper.
What I mean is that say you are in a two car garage working or large shop on a car and its 110 inside. You can set it up and have it blow cold air on you for spot cooling. That why I do in my crawlspace. You are absolutely putting out the exhausted air into the open space, but it still works. Think of like using a space heater, the room is still cold but you can get heat on you.
>SilverCymbal : A space heater increases the average temperature of the room, which is desired when the room is too cool. It doesn't only heat what its fan is directed at. So a space heater doesn't seem like a good analogy for a cooling device that _undesirably_ increases the average temperature of the room (if the exhaust isn't ducted to the outside).
@@brothermine2292 A fan might be a better analogy. You can blow a fan on you but a fan will not cool a room since the heat emitted from the motor will add to the room. But now you have much cooler spot cooling. Out the back, it blows hot air, but on you it is cold. A long-term/room solution it is not. Or you can use the hoses to duct the heat out, but a small unit like that will do nothing for a garage, it really is good just for spot cooling you. This is what SilverCymbal was getting at.
>LFTRnow : I agree that a fan is a good analogy. I understand SilverCymbal's point in his reply, which is that the A/C can be used for spot cooling like the fan I mentioned in my initial comment. My point is that a fan is a much less expensive solution to consider for that scenario. (My other point is that the video is misleading at 0:52.)
The portable a/c Heatpump would allow you to have the adapter hose laying on the dash of your car while you’re working inside of it and have cool crisp air conditioned air blowing in your face while the unit is out in the shop/garage not trying to cool down the shop/garage, unlike a fan blowing ambient shop air on you that’s just air. Same goes for heat mode as well, it’s not intended to change the temp of the garage/shop but make the spot where you’re at more comfortable/workable. Esp for hot confined spaces, having chilly air on you makes an unsafe condition into an all day work condition.
The price could be considered high when compared to a window air conditioner. But this isn't just a window air conditioner. It's a year round mobile HVAC unit, with an optional grid independence mode. By the time you include the price of install, you could buy one for every room in the house and still come out ahead. And then take a couple of them camping, if you can still call that camping.
Since this is a heat pump, it has an operation range. If it gets too cold, it won't heat the space. I learned that the hard way this winter.
Fortunately, I was able to save my camping trip by kickstarting the heating of my tent with some warm air from the car. I was then able to move the unit into the tent with me to maintain the right temp.
There is big practicality in this as a permanent fixture in a boondocking setup of camper trailer. No need for a separate AC/heater when this can do both for a power light load. Of course, the price is the heel, but I'd argue that given it's power efficiency it's worth it in power limited situations.
Unfortunately I wouldn’t recommend the Wave 2 in a limited power situation. For heating, it is going to use a lot less power than an electric heater but the heat function only works down to about 40°. I’ve used it camping and it uses a lot of power. In Eco Mode the battery lasts 8 hours. In my experience, depending on the time of year it has used more like 2.5 to 4.5 kWh in a day.
Alright buddy, let me break it down for you. When it comes to outdoor portable AC units, you've got two options: 2300BTU and 5000BTU. But here's the deal - even the 5000BTU might not give you the chilling power you need outdoors during the day. At night, though, 2300BTU is often enough to cool your space. And check this out, the Mark 2 seems to be more lightweight and user-friendly. Its one-handed design is a real win for my RTT setup.
This product looks terrific for race/track cars that have factory a/c removed. You can put the unit in the backseat, secure it down, and run the hoses outside. Only thing you would have to make it a mount which is pretty simple.
800-1200 dollars for 5100 btu? That insane. If you don't need the battery power a standard Chinese RV heat pump/ mini split is only 300-400 dollars and they are 11000 btu. They are all over ebay.
It's $799 without a battery, and you can use an existing power system or add a battery if you want. Those ebay ones are fine, but keep in mind those are no names, and require a permanent installation. The Ecoflow's strong is that you cna move it where you want. I don't think they are trying to displace Mr Cool or anyhing type systems
By your own number the ecoflow is a better deal if you need more than 2200btu. By your numbers you could buy two Ebay ones for the price of this one but that only gets you to 2200btu. This one is over double that, has battery capability, and isn't some mystery machine rebranded by 30 different "companies" from china that might run for 3 years or 3 days. Just food for thought.
I would only suggest these units are great for emergency purposes. It is, however, not my choice for that. I would simply use a window AC and run it off another solar battery or gas/propane generator.
Thanks mate, got a link to one?
You're missing the point. Can you walk around carrying your cheap Chinese RV heat pump? :D
Not an awful price for its packaging and features. However if it is going to be primarily stationary, might be better to get a traditional heat pump. You can get a full ton of cooling (12000 btu) for about that price if you can DIY. This is pretty neat though.
I'd love to get a heat pump installed for my garage someday. 1 ton would be plenty just to keep it ~10F below OAT in the summer and above freezing in the winter. My electric heater could then just bump on when the HP can't keep up.
When I started on RUclips in 2007 I was exposing the evaporative "coolers" that were everywhere. Nice to know that today you can buy an actual portable air conditioner even if it is massively overpriced.
Would be PERFECT for my shed tiki bar. But dang, that thing is pricey.
So when is ECOFLOW going to sell tents?
Just a heads up to anyone interested in ordering: I placed an order 5 days ago and it hasn't moved from San Diego. Assume this is a FedEx delay. Maybe don't order if you need it quickly!
So question... I have an RTT, if its 100°F outside or 90° at night, could 5100 btu cool the tent to 70° F for comfortable sleeping conditions?? Or would I have issues keeping the tent 20 degrees below ambient temp??
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Great idea, especially for people that can afford it
Cool product
200 - 800 watts. I suspect to be of any practical use that wattage is going to be 800 pretty much all the time. A typical small window ac uses about 500 watts. A decent effort. But the tech isn't there yet.
how many watts to run on full power/highest setting?
There is a lot of hype around these portable heat pumps but I'd save your money until they evolve into separating the condenser so it's back outside like it's supposed to be, with an easy way to connect/disconnect it. I know this EcoFlow works but it's quite bulky in the smaller spaces it's designed for and it does fight itself, even if it's less than other brands.
Is the tube actually insulated? They usually aren't, and end up leaking tons of heat by becoming hot themselves
No its thick but not insulated. You could add something if desired, I have some folks do that and gain some added efficiency.
I fixed a similar "portable" Ac unit tube that had that issue with two towels.
Didn't even use insulation.
There was also leaking around the base of the tube where it hooked to the AC. I fixed that with tape.
The connectors and hoses leak a lot. I have the Wave 2 set up in my office when I’m not camping. There is a phenomenal amount of pollen on and around the unit from the exhaust this spring.
Wrap a blanket around the discharge hose then.
Do you think you could run this off a River Pro?
Where'd you get the spark plug lamp from? Insanely cool and would be a great addition to my work bench
3-D printed.
Way over due. I looked for one of these last year was baffled they didn't exist.
Agreed, whats weird is you would have expected Mr Cool or someone else to build one but no one has been able to, or maybe they don't realize how many people RV/camp, etc. This Wave is a very well done setup
Curious how long the exhaust pipe is.
Sounds like a garage shop solution.
It's certainly a luxury but its great to have this to bring to where you and keep you warm or cool even just for spot cooling that you can carry.
5000k btu wouldnt even put a dent in a garage space
@@theripper121 a typical portable AC unit is 10k btu, I’ve used one on a 20x20 room. Wasn’t an ice box but it helped. This is half that so yeah it would dent it. But I’m also not paying 1200 bucks for a dent. I saw the price after I commented.
@@BenNawrath Yea most garage spaces are simply not insulated well. A 5k btu unit would constantly run and probably not be nearly enough on a humid day.
@@theripper121 mine happens to be well insulated in the walls but not at all in the roof or second floor (walk up attic). So it would be a losing battle. But I’m also not out there for extended periods. So it would just be something to take the edge off anyway.
It is IPX4, so light rain should be fine.
What is the SEER rating. It's a heat pump butt diving 5100BTU by 495W DC gives a SEER of 10.3. It is good if you need portable but if you can use a window air conditioner, every window air conditioner you can buy today will use less power. The only advantage is IF this is inverter based and not single/dual stage. If you don't need portability, get a split heat pump.
Where’d you get 5,000 watts for power consumption? In the video it showed a range of 200-800 watts. That’s a potential of 25seer. And this isn’t trying to be a mini-split Heatpump but definitely beats a noisy window shaker by a long shot in diversity and capability, but also portability.
@@dallynsr My bad that was a typo. I meant 495W which is what ecoflows site says the DC power is. Which gives you the 10.3 because SEER is BTU divided by wattage. That's interesting because for normal ACs the minimum SEER is 14 in the northern US and 15 in the southern US and that number. This AC uses 45% more power than the current legal minimum. I wonder how it's classified to get around the SEER regulations which still apply to the wheeled "portable" ACs.
This thing getting 25 SEER is about as likely as my 4955W typo. SEER is seasonal so while there may be times where it's in a perfect sweet spot of internal and outdoor temperature. If this thing got 25 SEER they wouldn't fail to mention SEER anywhere in the product documentation.
Also considering this is 1100$, or 800$ on sale, you need to compare it to window units or splits of comparable pricing. Midea sells inverter air conditioners that are as low as 32dB to the Ecoflows 44dB, so its not beating ACs half its price. I don't know what you mean by diversity. I stand by my point, that this is a neat device if you need absolute portability (at the cost of efficiency) to cool a small area, but for any permanent or semi-permanent use case this thing is the wrong choice for cost and performance.
RV ACs are way better bang for your buck, even with prices being insanely high. With that being said this is good if you don't want the hassle of installing a rooftop AC or indoor furnace.
Just got one… great deal right now
I think you will love it. In a world of crappy ACs its to hard to believe these work this well but this one is totally different. Glad you got the deal!
Great. They just need to sell this for comparable pricing to portable AC’s one might buy from Home Depot, Lowe’s etc. So that means under $400.
At $1200, this product is so out of reach that it may as well not exist. I truly don’t understand who can afford ecoflow products these days.
Its $799 for a limited time left - bit.ly/3W63uVp - Scroll down on the bottom. The base unit is what I showed here. The others all come with extras that aren't required.
The price though! 👋😅👉💵💵💵
Air conditioner is very important.
hmm, I confused. Using google's energy conversion calculator, 6100 BTUs should be ~1787 watt hours. Honest question. How can wave 2 get 6100 BTUs using less than half the power?
Heat Pumps can have efficiencies that exceed traditional heating /cooling solutions. If you did a quick search, you'd find that 6100 BTU AC units can run at 1000W. Most AC units are basically one-way heat pumps.
On the flip side, when it comes to heating, heat pumps can actually extract heat from cold air outside provided that the coolant can still liquefy and boil at that temperature. This can be several times more efficient than directly converting energy into heat. I saw a source cite 300 - 400%. Basically, a 1000W space heater which directly converts electricity to heat with nearly 100% efficiency will generate about 3k BTUs. Which is where your number comes from. Heat pumps can give better performance than that because it extracts heat instead of directly converting something to heat. Less energy needed to pull out something that's already there instead of making it yourself from scratch. Based on the efficiency cited, you could even say that this EcoFlow unit is low to mid-range in terms of efficiency for a heat pump.
With such high efficiencies, why don't more people have heat pumps? Basically, if the outside air is colder than like 30 degrees F, the heat pump's efficiency drops like a rock. The coolant doesn't behave the same at that temperature so more energy is needed to coerce the coolant to maintain its liquefication and boiling cycles. And, somewhat related, the condenser coils ice over and need to be defrosted. In other words, when you REALLY need it to heat, it's either barely working or unable to operate. Whereas a traditional heater will happily run even in the dead of winter in Siberia as long as you give it fuel.
When it comes to cooling then, as you may be aware, when it's really hot outside, the AC can only bring the temperature down so much.
Heat pump COPs can be 3-5x. The Co-efficient of Performance greater than one means you’re Moving more heat than you would produce directly with that power.
Put simply,
Refrigeration draws heat from one heat exchanger and releases it at the other one. Heatpumps use refrigeration to make the discharge air outside colder than outside air warming it up and then making the coil exchanger inside warmer than the air inside, thereby pumping heat from outside, inside. This is an exchange process not a watts vs wattage calculation like with resistive heater coils that produce nearly the same heat output as the electrical watts used. Typical heat pumps nowadays can be 500% efficient in that way.
Most annoying thing is if you are not using the AC adaptor you have to use an ecoflow battery or power station. If you wire it to an existing 12v power bank the compressor won't work. Ecoflow has made it so you need to use their proprietary gear, very frustrating, especially when I already have a large lithium system I have to buy the tiny ecoflow battery which does not run for the stated time
Can those hose screw into a window adapter from the like of LG and such?
The exhaust hose is 5 inches the other one is 6 inches but it’s used to bring in air from outside, you can buy an adapter that fits a 5 inch hose to a 6 inch I use one to extend the length of the 5 inch hose.
Small but price is hugh, nope nope nope
gonna use this to cool my pc
Seriously, I used to use those Movincools to cool racks when our room systems would fail. Just point them at the racks, and then we could go home for the night
I'm not a fan of the battery design. It's integrated into the AC unit, so you have to charge it along with the AC. Plus, the unit is far too heavy to be labeled "portable".
Where did you get that large WAGO display?
Left overs from when he wago’ed his service entrance to his main panel
Ecoflow is a good product producer and I have several but it is not for the poors.
I freaking luv this channel. ❤
Very nice of you to say, thank you
this guy got paid lol
What's the measurements on the window adapter
Its 14" x 10" but it can be trimed. A bunch of campanies now make specific window adapters out of hard plastic that go right into windows of common RV/Vans
I wonder how this compares to the zero breeze mkII?
Do not buy a Zero Breeze. ZB sold an idea, not a product. People thought it worked and it didn't or barely. Their reviews got so bad they had to pull it off Amazon and put it back on and instantly it's back to 2 stars. Worst product I ever tried. They created the first AC and it was horrible, but it blew some cold air. The Wave is as close as I have ever seen to a true portable AC in a tiny package but it actually works. Night and day.
if they would make one with only ac to bring down the price i would buy.
You too can spend $1300 to cool or heat a teeny space.
Just hope it doesn't go below 40 degrees or it won't work. Not sure how they sell this as a heater. Kinda useless for heating below 40 degrees.
Warranty on this??
Sorry I should have included that! It's two years if you register it with Ecoflow, if you buy with the direct link I believe they do that for you. If for some reason you don't register (which is fre) its 1 year
I wish this was cheaper like the price of a windows ac $800-$2,000 its just too pricey
I agree, last year they were $1099 and up amd its the most power portable small AC on the market, so its good they can do $699 for the next week. If you compare it to Zero Breeze, they were $999 and they don't cool even half as well. Hopefully prices for these minis will continue going down.
2000 Bucks! 😮 umm....
$799 bit.ly/3W63uVp - Its regularyl $1199, go to the bottom. The others include batteries and different adapter not everyone needs.
Shouldn't cost any more then an equivalent window AC. There is nothing special about heat pumps that justify this price.
It would be perfect if you didn't have to use the vent hoses.
I agree, I'm not sure that will ever be possible with the tech we have today but maybe in the future.
Glad it's dual hose! Single hose should be illegal
Battery is NOT LiFePO4! Only 800 cylcles to 80%
That is an issue. However, you can also power it with Delta 2 or similar EcoFlow power station with a specific cord. I do this sometimes. Maybe not the best solution but it’s an option.
Mine arrived nonfunctional, sad.
Sorry to hear that, its a fantastic unit. I would have them replace it asap, which they will do. There is no better unit on the market that comes close to this super portable, I hope you can give it another chance.
Whatever but why the f spark plug there
Nice, but to many bones 💰 for my wallet.
Agreed, at the moment the $799 is a lot less than the $1299 last year so I am glad its going the right way but still costly, but good
@@SilverCymbal oh, I didn't notice the extra coupon. That makes it almost reasonable!
$1299 regular price? Thanks but no thanks.
Its $799 on sale now: bit.ly/3W63uVp
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I just love that the ECOFLOW web shows it being used out door's in a camp site. They're jus begging for idiots to buy one and return it cause it won't keep warm in storm or cold by the camp fire. Stupid advertising for a decent product with valid use.
Sadly I think that Zero Breeze started that and Zero Breeze was the worst unit I have ever tried, no way that was ever cooling a space But I totally agree with you, that why I called that out in the video so that peopel know its not waterrpoof.
The battery is IP65 and the Wave 2 is IPX4 so technically they should be okay in light rain. However in my experience, quality control was so poor on the early units I wouldn’t trust putting it outside.
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Looks matter, this one is ugly af 2001 design sticks out too much.
WAAAAAY overpriced. $1300.
It’s 799 at the moment. Top comment has a link
At $1200.00 Amazon, no thanks.
Hilariously overpriced. It's just a glorified window unit with hoses and drain lines. Totally ridiculous.
Nahhh
dude 6,000 BTU is LAME ! LOL