I know right, heck I get mad that some black sharpies are a different shade of black why because if I'm making some art and they are side by side I and others will see the difference
The watercolors community has a similar theme of buying out old tubes of paint that was discontinued. Lots of tears after Quinacridone Gold pigment (and other variants) (PO49 amd PO48), and Permanent Alizarin Crimson (PR206). I even suspect the reason is the same: big clients of pigment manufacturers (car paints etc.) stopped using that pigment.
Everything about this is fantastic. So much more my thing than, like, prank video trends and such. I’m totally looking into this situation further! 🧐🔏🟣🔏As a pen supernerd, it’s my duty. Free and fair acccess to the true Lamy Dark Lilac for all is the only just course.👩🏼🎤✊🏼 We all need to stand for something, right? 🫤 Obviously way past my bedtime. I’ll see myself out…
I'm not in a calligraphy community but if I wanted a certain shade of pinkish purple with a gold sheen, I don't want something slightly off. The smallest changes in shade can affect an art piece so much.
Pinely clearly knows more than he lets on. Posca markers are, in fact, made by the very same Mitsubishi Pencil Company that acquired Lamy!! Brilliant and totally intentional easter egg, I'm sure.
As a fountain pen lover, the way inks sheen on paper DOES matter a lot to us lol. Oh, and if you really wanna talk drama, you should cover the panic that happened when the gold standard paper for fountain pens changed and people overstocked on the original formula. Yes, I said paper.
Omg people were so hurt and heartbroken, some I saw took it very personally. Controversial opinion I wasn’t very into it but maybe I just have poor taste lol
I don’t even want to know how much it would cost to buy the fountain pens my dad would turn, considering a Myrtle wood one of his was gifted to the king of Georgia 😭
I recently went to a pen show, and a friend asked me to send a picture of the most expensive pen there. I’m not sure if it was the most expensive, but the one I found was $11,000.
I saw some Mont Blanc pens go for around £30,000. I was curious and looked on their site for the most expensive pens they sell, those have "please enquire" where the price tag should be
all these dramas in very obscure communities makes me realize how cute humans are for finding joy in these little things and also how humans will always find a way to get mad at these little things
It's fair. Though it wasn't until recently that everyone and their mom could comment or observe the dramas themselves. Up until about 2015ish, I remember some very calm, supportive parts of the niche communities around where damamongers were simply gatekept out. But some people simply make drama for content, some specific breed of toxicity that festered or untreated mental illness. You can't really go anywhere to get away from drama except small friend circles and cut off from anyone at your own home. I hope the fountain pen communities are doing alright, but I'm sure there's someone somewhere calling another person bigoted for not liking a certain pen or calling someone a slur 😅
I had the same realization as you when I found the hermit crab subreddit 2 weeks ago. Apparently there's SO MUCH hermit crab misinformation in mainstream media and there are totally different schools of belief for what is best for them and- Yeah point is humans will always find their niche. And be passionate about it, regardless of whether it's in a positive or negative way.
In my opinion something that is the result of hundred of years of research and that is an useful tools for millions of people cannot be called a "little thing". My opinion is almost opposite to yours: it's crazy the number of amazing things in the world that people choose to not consider at all. We have everything, we saw everything, so almost nothing is interesting or important anymore...
My Dean of Students when I was in high school was a HUGE fountain pen collector and subscribed to a Fountain Pen magazine. I think it was called Pen Fancy. We’d go in his office to hang out, and subtly move his pens, and he’d instinctively move them back into place. I’m 100% certain he has strong opinions about this fiasco.
As an artist we do tend to stick to specific names colors from specific brands when we find a product we really enjoy, and a lot of the time in the middle of a project we’ll run out of the specific color we’re using and need to buy more to continue. If i was continuing a drawing or painting and a different color than the one I was expecting came out on my paper I would be pretty upset and disappointed.
Honestly I think the most obvious thing is the sheen, which is so much greener- I wonder if whatever they use to make the gold is hard to find or just expensive
I've never known about or cared about the things you cover, you just make them entertaining. Then you said "Lamy Dark Lilac" and I almost dropped my drill.
I was wondering what the drama would be about since I couldn't imagine what drama would be happening in this, with fountain pens and inks being a huge interest of mine... When he dropped the bombshell of "lamy dark lilac" my thoughts were just "oh no oh no oh no-" with a thousand yard stare 🤣. I'm personally not that bothered about the ink myself, but I _know_ how beloved it is by many others... The last ink you'd wanna mess with 😫
@@DaniCal1forn1a I'm always looking for the perfect purple, but dark lilac is the wrong direction on the spectrum. Right now, I'm using Kaweco's purple (I can't remember the name) with an EF nib, but I want to find something a bit more royal. Not almost black, but like almost almost black, maybe one more.
I wasn't expecting this to make it outside of the fountain pen communities let alone to youtubers I follow. So funny that THIS is what does it---and yes, fountain pens have a ridiculous amount of drama & brand beef
Hiiii Pinely!! OMG I am so suprised to see drama from MY COMMUNITY here! I appreciate that you went over this with a "I don't get it, but I know why you're mad" sort of tone. For us, inks are SO important with colors. I own so many shades of pink and blue which my family cannot tell the difference between, but I NOTICE! And I'm the one that has to use it for an ENTIRE BOTTLE. (Note that for most pens, 50ml like the Lamy Dark Lilac can go for 20-30 pen refills!) There are so many different colors out there, that if I don't find one that I'm in love with, why would I use it? And if I find one I love, and you sell it again after NOT doing so for almost a decade, but it's a FRAUD, a SHAM!? Yeah, it blew up. This was like if McDonald's changed the Big Mac but still sold it as a Big Mac. All this to say, thank you for addressing this with a level of respect to our nonsense! (Also, while $100 may seem like a lot of money for ink, I have 3 different pens all worth over $200 each, and some go for MUCH more than that. So yeah. Niche hobbies get a bit wild sometimes.)
Im not even into pens and I know they can get EXPENSIVE expensive. He doesn’t do it much anymore, but my dad used to turn pens on his lathe, and I think a politician friend of his gave a Myrtle wood one to the king of Georgia. One that he made me is essentially a giant mechanical pencil made of solid Purple Heart wood. The other one I have from him, that’s made with wood from the peach tree I grew as a child, stabilized via resin in a vacuum for over 24hrs, and inlaid with turquoise.
i'm not in the calligraphy community, but i am in the 'artist who collects and hoards all art/stationary supplies even if i won't use it' community, and you have no idea how filled with joy and interest i am to see a video covering this type of scandal/drama.
im a fountain pen lover (not on tiktok) and ive been waiting for someone on yt to cover this. im glad it was you! id never spend $60 on a single bottle of ink but the lamy inks i have tried do write / dry well so that's something ig
Fountain pens are genuinely one of the most niche hobbies anyone can get into but I am in fountain pen hell. Seeing a non fountain pen person talk about this is fun
The fountain pen community has so much drama it's wild, just off the top of my head, Lamy (for QC as well), Moonman / Majohn vs Kaweco, TWSBI vs Narwhal / Nahvalur, Noodler's weird ink formulation and antisemitism on their labels, TWSBI again with their cracking issues, paper manufacturing changing formulation and that being a big deal every time, it's got so much going on and that's just some of the stuff I've seen since getting into it a few years ago. Awesome to see you covering the Dark Lilac situation
funny thing is in germany we have to write with fountain pens in school and having a lamy pen was like a status symbol. If you had the (not permitted by the school) different ink color you were the GOAT. so yeah i'm really into this drama
Oh wow, drama that actually applies to one of my interests 😅. I think I even _own_ some original dark lilac cartridges because I bought the original special edition pen and it came with them... I used 1 and not the others since I don't like cartridges and didn't vibe with the ink as much as I thought I would (and the lamy safari isn't a pen I use anymore)... If I can find them I might donate them to another fountain pen enthusiast who actually wants that colour 😅. I can empathise though, one of my favourite inks ever - and one I use a LOT in my art - is kwz sheen machine, I'd be as devastated if it was discontinued then came back but wasn't the same 😭. There are other sheening inks in similar colours but none of them even come close to the crazy amount of sheen from sheen machine, and diluted/in areas where it's not saturated to the point of sheening it's the most gorgeous slightly turquoise leaning blue 😍
This is a legitimate scandal, because the company engaged in false advertising. They claimed they were bringing back an old color but since they used a different formula they knew that the results would be different. Lamy scammed their customers with a fake re-release.
I don’t care about fountain pens but as an artist I definitely see the difference in both inks so I can see why people would be pissed if they bought one expecting the other
don't underestimate the fountain pen community. their hobby is spending money on pens and inks they'll never use, but they care very deeply about never using those pens and ink
This is so funny - I just purchased my first fountain pen last week for line and wash. Thank you for informing me I have something to be upset about as a brand new member of this community.
Dude you are a beacon of light, I feel like all the other commentary channels are just falling fir rage bait crap on tiktok over and over but you show us the real stuff, the stuff I want to know about, the lamy drama that needs to be heard by the world I love this so fucking much, thank you for giving me hope again
FINALLY some real drama I care about. I love fountain pen ink, the sparkly bottles really make me understand how crows feel. That said, I have no idea what anyone is using this ink for lmao
dude I don't understand how you keep slaying like this, theyse simple yet goofy af subjects ive never heard of. You just keep pulling out these obscure internet scandals and I'm so intrested in it EVERY TIME.. Like I didn't know about this pen... scandal??? but now I want to. I eat it up video after video. Go off.. keep at it, I enjoy your content so much
I actually bought myself two LAMY pens this winter because I find fountain pens to be very nice and more sustainable than most plastic disposable pens, but they are indeed an investment lmao. Fountain pens are excellent for writing in cursive, which I tend to do most of the time, and I also find them good for ink drawings! Plus I got my name on it and I like that shit :)
I don't know if it still applies these days, but Lamy fountain pens were a requirement for some schools in Germany. Back in the 2000s. I still own all of mine. Kids started writing with this hideous wooden Lamy with a red plastic square on the end.
I'm not gonna lie. With how stressful life is right now, this is the "drama" I can handle and find fun in a way. Mostly because I can find fun niche communities on the internet without wading through putrid garbage piles. I don't use social media, bar RUclips, and this is an interesting insight into hobbies I actually might be interested in.
Thank you for this incredible coverage on hard hitting issues such as this. Truly the finest investigative journalist among our generation. (LAMY DARK LILAC FOREVERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!)
As someone who's constantly been told I have doctor handwriting, I pretty much stay away from pens. Writing tends to flare my arthritis. So I guess I'm an enemy of the pen community... And as such I will now go and come up with my villain costume.
If you have arthritis, a fountain pen may be for you. They take practically no pressure at all to write with. Rollerball pens are also an option but they're not as cool
I work at an art store so watching this is entertaining but also such a business insight because I know that brand but have never seen a purple lamy in my store
I don't know shit about pens, but I work in chem industry and "we couldn't get the ingredients" really means "it is no longer legal to use the stuff we did back then" lol
You should draw the evil wizard who forced you into the mirror corner
We need to see him!!
Actually I would like to see him draw out himself getting cast into the mirror dimension by the evil wizard. I need the lore!
Yess
Let this be the comment he writes
Dickhead Wizard must be drawn
after seeing what the original dark lilac looked like, i see why people are upset. that was a beautiful color.
ok davesprite
I know right, heck I get mad that some black sharpies are a different shade of black why because if I'm making some art and they are side by side I and others will see the difference
Yeah, it's lovely. There are other veeeeery similar inks out there that don't come with this premium resale cost, though.
The watercolors community has a similar theme of buying out old tubes of paint that was discontinued. Lots of tears after Quinacridone Gold pigment (and other variants) (PO49 amd PO48), and Permanent Alizarin Crimson (PR206).
I even suspect the reason is the same: big clients of pigment manufacturers (car paints etc.) stopped using that pigment.
There's nothing like it. I have both the dark lilac pen and new lilac pen from this year, but no ink. It's perfection.
Guys I had to stop watching this video right after I started but I swear if Pinely adresses the large cardboard box behind him I'll be very upset
I have bad news
@@VengefulAzana Holy hell
I hate to break it to you man...
@@Eddysig I can't believe this...
@ville__ Sure I won't
I love craft community drama, it’s just usually so low-stake that I can get behind it
As a fountain pen nerd, you are welcome 😊
Everything about this is fantastic. So much more my thing than, like, prank video trends and such. I’m totally looking into this situation further! 🧐🔏🟣🔏As a pen supernerd, it’s my duty. Free and fair acccess to the true Lamy Dark Lilac for all is the only just course.👩🏼🎤✊🏼 We all need to stand for something, right? 🫤
Obviously way past my bedtime. I’ll see myself out…
I'm not in a calligraphy community but if I wanted a certain shade of pinkish purple with a gold sheen, I don't want something slightly off. The smallest changes in shade can affect an art piece so much.
Yep, plus it’s likely going to change how lightfast it is since different shades have different longevity
As an artist, I understand the frustration too.
Yeah! Thats is a whole another color!
Dark Lilac isn't calligraphy ink. It's writing ink. We use it the same way you use regular bic pens.
@@dacksonflux but with way more smoothness and ease.
“I own a pen” and he lifts up a marker
It’s a posca paint PEN.
Marker is a type of pen
Peak
@ville__ ok i won't translate
Pinely clearly knows more than he lets on. Posca markers are, in fact, made by the very same Mitsubishi Pencil Company that acquired Lamy!! Brilliant and totally intentional easter egg, I'm sure.
"Hardcore pen fans" actually goes SO HARDDDD WOOOOOOO I LOVE PENS YES
PEN GANG RISE UP
I do too but I think you forgot an i
LESSGOOOO PEN GANG GANG
REAL
i'm a patriotic citizen of Pen Island! 🫡🖊
As a fountain pen lover, the way inks sheen on paper DOES matter a lot to us lol. Oh, and if you really wanna talk drama, you should cover the panic that happened when the gold standard paper for fountain pens changed and people overstocked on the original formula. Yes, I said paper.
Omg people were so hurt and heartbroken, some I saw took it very personally.
Controversial opinion I wasn’t very into it but maybe I just have poor taste lol
@@annakeene7350understandable, I prefer midori MD to tomoe because it feels nicer for drawing.
RIP original Tomoe River. The replacement is actually fine but still, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I overstocked real bad.
And then when it switched to Sanzen... And when news about Cosmo's paper dropped too... TToTT
STOPP I HEARD ABOUT THE TOMOE RIVER PAPER DRAMA 😭
It seems Evil Pinely's evil plot has finally been revealed as he seems to be hoarding all the dark lilac ink in his channel logo
Great conclusion! So simple, yet so not. Perfetto!
You joke about a pen being $300, but my dude, that doesn’t even scratch the surface of what a limited edition Montgreppa or Namiki would cost you.
I don’t even want to know how much it would cost to buy the fountain pens my dad would turn, considering a Myrtle wood one of his was gifted to the king of Georgia 😭
i know lol, i have 2 pens already over $300. like, he has no idea how expensive fountain pens can get
Some pens are "infinite" hence why they cost a lot
I recently went to a pen show, and a friend asked me to send a picture of the most expensive pen there. I’m not sure if it was the most expensive, but the one I found was $11,000.
I saw some Mont Blanc pens go for around £30,000. I was curious and looked on their site for the most expensive pens they sell, those have "please enquire" where the price tag should be
all these dramas in very obscure communities makes me realize how cute humans are for finding joy in these little things and also how humans will always find a way to get mad at these little things
It's fair. Though it wasn't until recently that everyone and their mom could comment or observe the dramas themselves. Up until about 2015ish, I remember some very calm, supportive parts of the niche communities around where damamongers were simply gatekept out. But some people simply make drama for content, some specific breed of toxicity that festered or untreated mental illness. You can't really go anywhere to get away from drama except small friend circles and cut off from anyone at your own home. I hope the fountain pen communities are doing alright, but I'm sure there's someone somewhere calling another person bigoted for not liking a certain pen or calling someone a slur 😅
@@luvhair255 You explained this so well
I had the same realization as you when I found the hermit crab subreddit 2 weeks ago. Apparently there's SO MUCH hermit crab misinformation in mainstream media and there are totally different schools of belief for what is best for them and-
Yeah point is humans will always find their niche. And be passionate about it, regardless of whether it's in a positive or negative way.
In my opinion something that is the result of hundred of years of research and that is an useful tools for millions of people cannot be called a "little thing".
My opinion is almost opposite to yours: it's crazy the number of amazing things in the world that people choose to not consider at all.
We have everything, we saw everything, so almost nothing is interesting or important anymore...
My Dean of Students when I was in high school was a HUGE fountain pen collector and subscribed to a Fountain Pen magazine. I think it was called Pen Fancy. We’d go in his office to hang out, and subtly move his pens, and he’d instinctively move them back into place. I’m 100% certain he has strong opinions about this fiasco.
Lmfaooooooooooo why’d you move the pens around, diabolical 😂
That's extremely devious
Seriously low stakes pranks like this are the kinds that I just LOVE. No one is harmed, someone is just mildly annoyed.
Pinely always manages to find most niche dramas I had no idea existed
Indeed. And I’m here for it.
As a fountain pen enthusiast myself, ink swatching is a hugeee part of the hobby! People love it
youre getting closer to your pencilgate dreams
As an artist we do tend to stick to specific names colors from specific brands when we find a product we really enjoy, and a lot of the time in the middle of a project we’ll run out of the specific color we’re using and need to buy more to continue. If i was continuing a drawing or painting and a different color than the one I was expecting came out on my paper I would be pretty upset and disappointed.
This is what virginity looks like.
Oh my god- a trending internet drama of something I actually AM PART OF- damn. Fountain pen Community let’s go
Yeah, I was just waiting for this, surprised to see it’s about dark lilac and not some of the other mess we have in this community
@@jartecusis there other pen drama you could recommend looking in to? 👀
@@jartecusspill the tea! 😂
Yeah same here. it's really weird lol
@@capybaracakenoodlers ink guy is a weird racist and had to change the names on a lot of his inks to be not racist
Honestly I think the most obvious thing is the sheen, which is so much greener- I wonder if whatever they use to make the gold is hard to find or just expensive
omg lmaooo I forgot i sent that from my business account 😭 Glad it was good enough for a video!
As an artist, yes, accurate pigment labeling matters and makes a difference, especially if you're mixing colors.
I've never known about or cared about the things you cover, you just make them entertaining.
Then you said "Lamy Dark Lilac" and I almost dropped my drill.
I was wondering what the drama would be about since I couldn't imagine what drama would be happening in this, with fountain pens and inks being a huge interest of mine... When he dropped the bombshell of "lamy dark lilac" my thoughts were just "oh no oh no oh no-" with a thousand yard stare 🤣. I'm personally not that bothered about the ink myself, but I _know_ how beloved it is by many others... The last ink you'd wanna mess with 😫
@@DaniCal1forn1a I'm always looking for the perfect purple, but dark lilac is the wrong direction on the spectrum. Right now, I'm using Kaweco's purple (I can't remember the name) with an EF nib, but I want to find something a bit more royal. Not almost black, but like almost almost black, maybe one more.
@@infinitesimalperinfinitumHave you tried the diamine tyrian purple?
I wasn't expecting this to make it outside of the fountain pen communities let alone to youtubers I follow. So funny that THIS is what does it---and yes, fountain pens have a ridiculous amount of drama & brand beef
Hiiii Pinely!! OMG I am so suprised to see drama from MY COMMUNITY here! I appreciate that you went over this with a "I don't get it, but I know why you're mad" sort of tone. For us, inks are SO important with colors. I own so many shades of pink and blue which my family cannot tell the difference between, but I NOTICE! And I'm the one that has to use it for an ENTIRE BOTTLE. (Note that for most pens, 50ml like the Lamy Dark Lilac can go for 20-30 pen refills!) There are so many different colors out there, that if I don't find one that I'm in love with, why would I use it? And if I find one I love, and you sell it again after NOT doing so for almost a decade, but it's a FRAUD, a SHAM!? Yeah, it blew up. This was like if McDonald's changed the Big Mac but still sold it as a Big Mac.
All this to say, thank you for addressing this with a level of respect to our nonsense! (Also, while $100 may seem like a lot of money for ink, I have 3 different pens all worth over $200 each, and some go for MUCH more than that. So yeah. Niche hobbies get a bit wild sometimes.)
Im not even into pens and I know they can get EXPENSIVE expensive.
He doesn’t do it much anymore, but my dad used to turn pens on his lathe, and I think a politician friend of his gave a Myrtle wood one to the king of Georgia.
One that he made me is essentially a giant mechanical pencil made of solid Purple Heart wood.
The other one I have from him, that’s made with wood from the peach tree I grew as a child, stabilized via resin in a vacuum for over 24hrs, and inlaid with turquoise.
@@gracel2mart
Okay those sound cool as hell. And I’m also not really into pens.
i'm not in the calligraphy community, but i am in the 'artist who collects and hoards all art/stationary supplies even if i won't use it' community, and you have no idea how filled with joy and interest i am to see a video covering this type of scandal/drama.
Omg, that’s me! Where do I sign up?!
✨️drama✨️ in harmless niche hobby communities has this comforting quality to it, like a scrumptious tea time treat
Damn Evil Pinely's flexing on us, he can afford and got hold of dark liliac for his profile pic
im a fountain pen lover (not on tiktok) and ive been waiting for someone on yt to cover this. im glad it was you! id never spend $60 on a single bottle of ink but the lamy inks i have tried do write / dry well so that's something ig
my youtuber? talking about drama in MY HOBBY? its more likely than you'd think. apparently. big win for fountain pen enjoyers
Fountain pens are genuinely one of the most niche hobbies anyone can get into but I am in fountain pen hell. Seeing a non fountain pen person talk about this is fun
never underestimate the ability of niche communities to have insane levels of drama… have you learnt nothing from the existence of fandom?
The fountain pen community has so much drama it's wild, just off the top of my head, Lamy (for QC as well), Moonman / Majohn vs Kaweco, TWSBI vs Narwhal / Nahvalur, Noodler's weird ink formulation and antisemitism on their labels, TWSBI again with their cracking issues, paper manufacturing changing formulation and that being a big deal every time, it's got so much going on and that's just some of the stuff I've seen since getting into it a few years ago. Awesome to see you covering the Dark Lilac situation
You forgot this fountain pen/stationery influencer who was exposed for going to the Jan 6 Insurrection lmao
@@12thdominion I totally missed out on that story oh my god, I am too nosy Not to look into that now TToTT
Noodler’s Nazi
Wait, who? I didn’t hear about that one, but chances are I would know of them!
I think you should draw yourself as a supervillain riding a rocket powered cat!
@ville__ ville you little troll
@ville__Guess I’ll die
funny thing is in germany we have to write with fountain pens in school and having a lamy pen was like a status symbol. If you had the (not permitted by the school) different ink color you were the GOAT. so yeah i'm really into this drama
Oh wow, drama that actually applies to one of my interests 😅. I think I even _own_ some original dark lilac cartridges because I bought the original special edition pen and it came with them... I used 1 and not the others since I don't like cartridges and didn't vibe with the ink as much as I thought I would (and the lamy safari isn't a pen I use anymore)... If I can find them I might donate them to another fountain pen enthusiast who actually wants that colour 😅. I can empathise though, one of my favourite inks ever - and one I use a LOT in my art - is kwz sheen machine, I'd be as devastated if it was discontinued then came back but wasn't the same 😭. There are other sheening inks in similar colours but none of them even come close to the crazy amount of sheen from sheen machine, and diluted/in areas where it's not saturated to the point of sheening it's the most gorgeous slightly turquoise leaning blue 😍
This is a legitimate scandal, because the company engaged in false advertising. They claimed they were bringing back an old color but since they used a different formula they knew that the results would be different. Lamy scammed their customers with a fake re-release.
If you ever want to do more hobby drama, the Neopets pet trading economy (and the illegal black market pet trade) is always interesting to me.
draw a pencil as a teaser for the pencil drama video
You've missed the real big drama in the fountain pen community, if you want the spicy stuff look up things around Noodler's Bernanke Red
I was looking for this exact comment lol
Bruh. Finally drama I can relate to! I might still get the new Dark Lilac though, it's really hard to find the perfect purple.
As a fountain pen and ink collector FINALLY MY TIME HAS COME
Craft drama and scandal has become my new drug
WOOOOHOO ITS FINALLY HERE!!!! THE PEN DRAMA WEVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
Ig this drama really made a *mark* on the communuty
ayyy lmfaoo
They took note of it for sure
I don’t care about fountain pens but as an artist I definitely see the difference in both inks so I can see why people would be pissed if they bought one expecting the other
I really appreicate that Evil Pinely doesnt act like he knows these community in-depth when he covers drama from them
don't underestimate the fountain pen community. their hobby is spending money on pens and inks they'll never use, but they care very deeply about never using those pens and ink
This is so funny - I just purchased my first fountain pen last week for line and wash. Thank you for informing me I have something to be upset about as a brand new member of this community.
What pen was it?
After the hall of mirrors we now have the hall of cardboard, Pinely is really visiting a lot of magical kingdoms through his Evil descent
Dude you are a beacon of light, I feel like all the other commentary channels are just falling fir rage bait crap on tiktok over and over but you show us the real stuff, the stuff I want to know about, the lamy drama that needs to be heard by the world I love this so fucking much, thank you for giving me hope again
I understand them since I’m a massive pencil fan and purist and I can tell even the SLIGHTEST difference in pencils
woah pinely talking about fountain pens. epic my guy
Every day we’re getting closer to pencil drama
I was just scouring the online pen forums to find a new nib for my fountain pen before you posted this. Great minds truly.
Thank you Evil for delivering obscure community drama I have no stakes in, as a business student I can say you are a pillar of the global economy.
im literally a stationery nerd. i LOVE pens
stationery
@@sapincher thanks, bigger nerd
Pinely, “I’m not much of an artist” also Pinely, creates award winning animated movie.
Seeing a content creator outside of the fountain pen community cover this is just bizarre. And awesome. Cheers.
Finally, someone is discussing the Great Pen Scandal of 2024.
we sell lamy at my workplace and my 71 y/o boss will definitely love hearing about this hahah XD
FINALLY some real drama I care about. I love fountain pen ink, the sparkly bottles really make me understand how crows feel. That said, I have no idea what anyone is using this ink for lmao
Honestly learning about drama in more niche communities is pretty fun
I want the pencil drama just to see how he draws a pencil
dude I don't understand how you keep slaying like this, theyse simple yet goofy af subjects ive never heard of. You just keep pulling out these obscure internet scandals and I'm so intrested in it EVERY TIME.. Like I didn't know about this pen... scandal??? but now I want to. I eat it up video after video. Go off.. keep at it, I enjoy your content so much
this ABSOLUTELY counts as pencil drama
stares at LAMY pen collection next to me... "yeah what weirdos... pens are lame..."
Lamy is pulling a bait and switch and then backpedalled when called out? Classic Lamy
Oh boy i can't wait for the pencil drama video
I love the respect you have towards communities you don't know much about and that you don't spend the whole video shitting on them for being "weird"
I wish the world truly was so peaceful that a fountain pen ink scandal really was the biggest news on the NYT
I actually bought myself two LAMY pens this winter because I find fountain pens to be very nice and more sustainable than most plastic disposable pens, but they are indeed an investment lmao. Fountain pens are excellent for writing in cursive, which I tend to do most of the time, and I also find them good for ink drawings! Plus I got my name on it and I like that shit :)
I used to have a Lamy pen back in primary school!! Then I smashed it in math class because I was frustrated and had an autism moment
We've all been there lol
@@lanskandal1181we really have
Love the phrase “had an autism moment.” Sorry about your pen though.
I never know what you’re gonna talk about next (looking forward to pencil drama)
I don't know if it still applies these days, but Lamy fountain pens were a requirement for some schools in Germany. Back in the 2000s. I still own all of mine. Kids started writing with this hideous wooden Lamy with a red plastic square on the end.
really waiting for the climax of the evil pinely pencil saga
I shook with excitement when I got this notification!
my uterus twitched!
@@shihohinomorisbiggestfanomfg hahahaha i’m about to cry 😂
The internet needs someone to cover drama in niche online communities fr.
I have no idea why I clicked cos of the title, but here I am, and I want the deets!
It’s so funny seeing what topics come up in your videos on this channel
bought a lamy safari yesterday in violet blackberry and now I am thrust into this unexpected pen lore
I'm not gonna lie. With how stressful life is right now, this is the "drama" I can handle and find fun in a way. Mostly because I can find fun niche communities on the internet without wading through putrid garbage piles. I don't use social media, bar RUclips, and this is an interesting insight into hobbies I actually might be interested in.
I love fountain pens and it was fun seeing you try to decipher the lore 😂❤
Thank you for this incredible coverage on hard hitting issues such as this. Truly the finest investigative journalist among our generation. (LAMY DARK LILAC FOREVERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!)
as someone who has recently fallen into the rabbithole of fountain pens i absolutely love this i never expected there to be drama in this community
that guy is gonna become like the channel mascot and get 5838482848284828 fanarts ok
He wasn't joking when he said next episode is gonna be about a pen
Bro did not draw a pen💀
:(
@@EvilPinely cant win em all
@@EvilPinelyi thought it was rather impressive if it makes you feel better😔
@@EvilPinelyit’s a paint pen, it still counts .
Cobalt??? Did not think I would see you here
I FOUND THE ORIGIN OF THE CARDBOARD?!?!?
As someone who's constantly been told I have doctor handwriting, I pretty much stay away from pens. Writing tends to flare my arthritis. So I guess I'm an enemy of the pen community... And as such I will now go and come up with my villain costume.
If you have arthritis, a fountain pen may be for you. They take practically no pressure at all to write with. Rollerball pens are also an option but they're not as cool
please draw your favourite, uh, your favourite pair of evil sunglasses
I love videos like these so much, they’re so silly and fun! These are the kind of drama videos that make my day better
still waiting on that juicy pencil drama, but pen drama is pretty darn close
oh wait he answered my questions lmao 3:03
I work at an art store so watching this is entertaining but also such a business insight because I know that brand but have never seen a purple lamy in my store
You should cover the Noodler's ink controversy while you're on the topic of fountain pens.
Who’s here catching up on lore for the 100k pencil vid?
"dark lilac" "violet blackberry" That's Welcome to Nightvale purple actually
Omg thank you for agreeing lol
As someone who looked at fountain pen and mechanical pencils aficionados for a bit, yeah, they are really serious about it.
I'm not a fountain pen collector but I am an artist so I completely get formula changes and when the color's not right
I don't know shit about pens, but I work in chem industry and "we couldn't get the ingredients" really means "it is no longer legal to use the stuff we did back then" lol
pinely is my number one source for useless controversy coverage
I do calligraphy and I follow some people who are very seriously invested in this drama and I’m so excited that Orr is covering this fr
And before the seaglass drama, there was a scandal in the yarn dyeing community!
oh, there’s ALWAYS drama in the yarn community