G.Skill CL16 vs Corsair CL18 3600Mhz DDR4 ram with my Ryzen gaming PC
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Does low latency ram with very tight timings make enough of a difference to justify the extra outlaty?
Exact model as on Amazon uk.
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series F4-3600C16D-16GVK 16 GB (8 GB x 2) DDR4 3600 MHz C16 1.35 V Memory Kit - Classic Black
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Thanks for making this video. I was specifically looking for this kind of comparison and it was helpful, even though "pushing the entire setup to new heights" may be a little too dramatic for a 0.24% increase. Still, I found it amusing ;)
Also your "benchmarks" show a max of about a 3% difference...rofl.
When you have spare cash to splash, 3% is everything.
Ricco123tube lmaooooo
Sad but true
well pretty much after 3200mhz there's barely any improvement
@@ricco123tube In numbers only, but no in value for money. 3% gain for about a 30 - 50% price difference is definitely not worth it for 95% of the population.
New sub here. Great video.. Even with your cold, you are very easy to follow and listen to. I like your style, you are straight to the point with both visual and verbal explanations. I look forward to more content from you!
Your X-axis sucks on the graphs 2:54
Thanks
LOL! shocking until you look at the X-axis!
"we see the gskill ram push the entire setup to new heights with a clear victory"
18 POINTS OF DIFFERENCE LMFAO, literally margin of error
Congratulations, you have understood the point of the video.
Well done 👍
I can get the gskill one for only $85 and the Corsair one for $82 definitely getting gskill, great deal
That certainly is a great deal!!
Same
Just going to leave it out here that I managed to get a 32GB x2 CL18 kit for 120€ when a CL16 kit is 250€.
Definitely not worth the premium nowadays especially considering that I managed to bring it down to CL16, with SK Hynix modules even, very happy!
Thanks for the video, I think I'll most likely be grabbing the Corsair Vengence LPX 3600 @ CL18. Currently I have the Corsair 2133 MHZ @CL13.. I'm running an i7 8700k so I don't believe it will make that much more of a difference when compared to a RYZEN system, in terms of getting the GSKILL CL16 compared to the Corsair CL18. Hopefully that made sense.. ha
Yeah, made perfect sense 😁
Ryzen definitely benefits from faster ram and timings.
Good luck.
Thanks for the informative video. As mentioned by others a couple of the graphs looked like there was a bigger difference than there actually is, but as you said at least you labelled the numbers still! Been debating between various CL16 kits and whether to go with Gskill CL16/17 neo / RGB or Corsair's RGB pro at 18
Will do better job next time with the graphs, it was my first time.
If you have the best of everything else already, then go with the best sticks you can afford.
Obviously a better gpu or cpu is money well spent before the ram.
The g skill kit is on Newegg for $80. No reason not to get it.
I think charts should include all values starting from 0 because I did overrate the Gskill a bit.
These people do not understand british sarcasm 😂
Great video I've been looking for RAM for my new 3300 X project. I saw your comments on Amazon went to RUclips and saw your review great job , sold on these sticks thanks.
Good luck with your project.
Thanks for your video. Hope you will continue making many more videos. I'm currently building a gaming/ work pc, and I'm trying to see which ram i should buy, to go with my 5950x (by miracle the online retailer had a few units available, a few days ago, at 4am, and i was able to get it) . I know the ryzen cpus particularly adore the ddr4 3600 modules... but i wanted to find out if lower latency can have a impact, small, on the final performance. And according to your video, some tests have performed around 1% better/ faster with the cl16 over the cl18. Not a big deal, but...
Many people will argue 'ohhh, 1% faster, what a joke...'... but they tend to forget that, for over 10 years, intel kept their tic toc revisions BS... and very often, people willing to upgrade their cpu, not only three would need to replace their motherboard, because of the new socket, but the new cpu revision would only bring like 3 or 4% extra processing power...so... taking that into account, at the end, 1% isn't a lot.. but still is 1%... so, if people can pay the extra money, why not ?
Also, maybe the low latency will have an higher impact on the latest zen3 ryzen 5900x and 5950x.
Anyway, thank you for the video. :)
@Ricco123tube Dear Ricco, I'm thinking of upgrading from my current VENGEANCE LPX 16gb (2X8GB) 3200MHz, to either "G.SKILL 32GB Ripjaws V DDR4 3600MHz CL16 KIT" or "CRUCIAL 32GB Ballistix DDR4 3600MHz CL16 KIT". My current specs are the following: Ryzen 7 5800x, B450 Aorus Elite from Gigabyte, GTX 1660Ti and a Samsung 970 EVO Plus. I play ArmA 3 most of the time, it eats processors and RAM for breakfast, graphics cards not so much, can you please give an advice on which DDR4 to go for? Kind regards.
I'd buy a cheap but decent 3600mhz cl 16 kit and the money you save should be invested into a gpu upgrade. A 3060 ti will dominate the 1660 ti and dlss is pretty good.
Or do whatever pleases you.
@@ricco123tube Thank you for replying. Kind regards.
It's hard to trust a person when their graphs don't start at zero.
Yeah he seems very dodgy.
For extra performance you can set your FCLK to 1900 (or 1866 if 1900 is not stable) and then further optimize the ram timings. On B-Die 3800 CL 14-14-14 @1.4V and optimized secondary and tertiary timings should giv you even more performance.
I have not seen anyone have their FCLK 1900 stable i.e pass memory tests maybe tweaking of the SOC voltage and maybe PLL voltages too along with some other things are needed.
@@Dazzxp im probably really lucky but after a lot of tweaking my R5 3600 finally does 1900 FCLK stable. Not only voltages, but also the ram frequency and timings influence it heavily. And since it is the cheapest of all 3rd gen ryzen products i would assume that some others should be able to do so as well.
@@anonymouscommentator It's possible depending on the motherboard that out of the box it is overvolting which can increase stability i could hit 1900 FCLK games would play without issue but memtest would bring back errors. Then again my board was defective anyway as when i got a second pair of 16GB 3200CL14 errors was popping up all over even at stock JEDC and XMP speeds indicating a tracing fault, the LED didn't work on IO panel either so there may have been multiple issues with that board. I a replacement board now and have trouble in hitting 1900 with 4x sticks of ram and i am limited to 3733MT/s seems i am not the only one but other people hit their limit with 4x sticks at 3600MT/s. Need to know the specific voltages needs to be increased and hopefully can do through Ryzen master as if i change options in the BIOS after setting a overclock in ryzen master results in a no post so memory voltage has to be increased before i use the app otherwise even something like changing the CPU multiplier results in a no post.
Hey man cool video, just wish you standardized your graphs a bit more, getting down to the 10s in differences is very good for these sort of small comparisons, but then you do a graph where youre comparing 2 graphs on the 1000s and theres barely any difference. Keep up the good work though, I can see you going somewhere with this.
The thing is......I'm crap at graphs. Turns out it's hard if you have no clue what you are doing.
yeah those graphs scales remind me of those eggs industry funded studies about cholesterol...
AT 2:32, was that a joke? The numbers are identical, the bars aren't. These are wash numbers.
Yes it is supposed to be misleading in a truthful way. I thought it was me being clever trying to emulate marketing bulshit but I guess it doesn't make sense to most people. The numbers at the bottom of the graph don't start at zero which is deceptive.
The video is about spending your money more wisely, but if you've already bought the best of the best on everything else then I suppose you could buy this sort of RAM for the tiny extra performance.
Personally I'd spend extra money on a night out having good food and a few beers. Suffice to say I don't have that RAM anymore.
Do you think Ballistix 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL16 RGB
would be great? Also, some memory says they are ''for ryzen'', this one doesn't, but is cheaper and CL16 instead of CL18 so should I get it even though it doesn't say ''for ryzen''?
I would look at user reviews and see if they have had success with Ryzen.
The corsair lpx and G-skill ram i use for two separate systems don't specify Ryzen support but work perfectly.
I've just made the decision to go with Ballistix. Low latency, high frequency. Ryzen is supported. Proper job.
I just built a 3950X PC, been 11 years since I last owned an AMD system. Is there a REAL WORLD difference between CL16 vs CL18 at 3600? Particularly for video editing on Premiere Pro. I do some gaming, but this will mainly be a productivity workstation. Does the difference justify the price?
I'd spend the extra cash on a more powerful gpu. More fps while gaming and better video rendering/exporting due to gpu acceleration.
before i bought my new pc end august 2021 i informed myself on all hardware from case to power unit its almost like i know by heart what to buy price to quality and i can say that im pretty happy with the result of my build take in mind the price compare to now i have lost maybe 500 euro due the fall of price whats normal i asume but if i compare to a build sold to big surface store what not change almost at price given ( belgium tax here 21 percent ) well im glad cuz at least i know whats in the build
my build
case thermaltake core v21 min 28 celcius at idle room temp 15-20 c
mobo asus tuf b550 gaming wifi matx
cpu ryzen 5600 x
ram gskill f4 3600c16-16gvk 2x8
gpu powercollor 6700 xt
cpu cooler noctua nh-d15
nvme wd 240 green
hdd seagate 2 tb
power unit coolermaster mwe v2 850 gold
5 fan silenciumpc 2300 rpm
Suffering from a cold, and it's almost 2020 for you? 😐
Not to worry, feeling tip top right now 😁👍
How would these do vs a 32gb setup with the corsair vengeance 3000mhz ddr4? Seeing as this was not a huge bump, would me downgrading from 32gb to 16, but with higher mhz be a good upgrade or not that much?
3200 cl16 32gb is very cost effective and probably far more useful.
@@ricco123tube Alright, i currently have 32gb 300mhz, but cant get them over 2800mhz for some reason, was looking for an upgrade just not sure which one. thanks for the answer!
Durability test? I use my corsairs for almost 4 years and still working great!
I've personally never had any ram fail, overclocked or not.
Kinda late reply but I used my gskill rams for 5 years nd they are still working
Just ordered 16gb to go with my R3 3100 and 1650 super oc
Nice
Ryzen5 3400g
Mb: Asus prime a320m-k
G-skills ripjaws v 2x8 3600 cl18
Is this okay? Will it work perfectly for me? Help, please
The motherboard is the weak point. It may not run the ram at 3600mhz and best check cpu compatibility too. Go to asus support site for reference.
A b450 is a better option for a budget build.
make sure to check the Motherboard manufacturer's official website, in the support page and look at the compatibility pages. Trust me, I upgraded my motherboard and CPU (only) and when I moved the ram to the new MoBo, it only supported the same ram at 2133MHz (base clock) compared to 3200MHz on the previous build.
Check the supported CPUs, Memory, amount of PCIe lanes (this matters if you're going to use many slots on MoBo, if you're just going to put in 1 GPU and 1-3 drives you can ignore this), storage (yes this is a thing, especially for very high speed SSDs
hope this helps
Hey Rico i know it's now old topic but i'd ask you for advice i currently run similar system :
3600x/b450 tomahawk max/adata d41 16gb cl16 3200mhz/strix 1080ti
My question is would this ram suffice for an upgrade i have a chance to pick it up for 115€
you think its a good deal ?
Personally I would put your money towards a 5600x as this will give you a much better upgrade, especially if gaming at a lower resolution. Also better for other tasks too.
I would only spend money on top tier ram if the rest of the pc is fully updated with high end hardware.
@@ricco123tube the system i have works well i play on 2560x1080 the thing is i started playing star citizen and other games that just eats ram meanwhile the cpu and the gpu are fine
So, if you require more ram, ie going from 8gb to 16gb or even 32gb if required, then yes it is a good investment.
If you are for example going from 16gb 3200mhz cl16 to 16gb 3600mhz cl16, then no it is not good value.
CPU and GPU always first.
Am j understanding you correctly? Is that a 3600mhz ram with 16 16 16 36? (16gb cards?) Where did you get these, I can't find them anywhere. Looking for the best cards for my strix x570e and my Ryzen 7 3700.
Herebis a link for you.
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series F4-3600C16D-16GVK 16 GB (8 GB x 2) DDR4 3600 MHz C16 1.35 V Memory Kit - Classic Black www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0199STG76/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_2fgQEbV1Q9MG9
Hi Rico. Are these new G.Skills F4-3600C16D-16GVK? I have not found exact part number.
Hi. Yes they are.
@@ricco123tube Thank you! I just ordered them! As you are deep in these topics I would like to ask you for recomendation for a thermal paste. I used to be a fan of Zalman's STG-2 but I realized that after 5 years it is no longer in stock ;). Therefore - can U propose something?
My go to is Artic silver 5.
There isn't much between the good brands.
thankyou, really helped!
Is a gain of less than 1% worth it? dunno, dunno
Hi, I recently bought Dominator Platinum 32gb 3600Mhz (8x4 CL18)
SKU: CMT32GX4M4C3600C18
I'm afraid I made a wrong purchase, could it limit performance?
I am a very competitive person, I am about to buy a 1440p 240hz monitor and I dont want have any problems..
Here are all the specifications of my pc:
Case: Rog Helios
MainBoard: Rog Strix x570-E
PSU: Rog Thor 850w
GPU: 1060 zotac 3gb (I'm waiting for the Rog Strix 3080Ti)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5900x Overclocked 4.6Ghz
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32gb (8x4 CL18)
SSD: 1tb Sabrent 4.0
Liquid Cooler: NZXT z73
Fans: Corsair QL120 / QL140
could you tell me what you advise me to do?
sorry for my bad english btw
Your memory is fine, the difference is negligible.
As for a 3080ti, well, it's an overpriced money maker for Nvidia. Massive increase in price compared to the 3080, with minimal increase in performance. IMO.
@@ricco123tube the order of the 3080 Ti Strix obviously has just been canceled, I had taken it for only 1250 euros ... so I guess I will stay for a couple of months with the old 1060 until this problem is resolved
I'm waiting for msrp prices. I cannot, will not pay more than it should be.
Anyway.... good luck.
@@ricco123tube thank you ❤
You should be able to get the CL of the G.Skill ram down to LC 14. I have16gb of G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600mhz and my timings are 14-17-17-38-56-480 @ 1.4volts.
Maybe that could be a subject of another video.👍
@@ricco123tube I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in lowering their timings. A cording to Geekbench my multi core latency value is 69.7ns. Stock was 87ns.
I quite like the platform there is alot of tweaking that can be done, i have 4x 8GB Teamgroup 3200CL14 running 3733MT/s 16-16-16-16-37-58-412 @1.45v CMD 2T because 1T is impossible beyond 3600 with 4 sticks and CL14 produces lots of errors. Then overclocking each CCX on my 3900X 3x 4.5GHz, 3x 4.45GHz, 6x 4.3GHz at 1.38v.
I should note the CPU clock speeds is not stable in AVX workloads that Chinebench R20 at these clock speeds unless i disable SMT. Kinda wish i could enable a offset for AVX workloads. However i use any applications that uses AVX instructions so doesn't bother me, CHinebench R15 works perfectly fine.
I am still tweaking, have to be careful as my ASUS Strix X570-F has issues with memory timings sticking and have to use Ryzen master Util to do it, which i hate but it's the only way to get things like gear down and CMD settings to work and god knows what other memory settings an't working either from the BIOS because using Ryzen memory calculator always results in having to clear the CMOS despite using settings that worked with the memory on a Ryzen 1700 which was 3600MT/s 14-14-14-14-35-47.
This is my CPU-Z result for some reason it's not linking to my account valid.x86.fr/w9b0gb
Where did you get 16-16-16-36 3600 gskill v ram? Mine is 16-18-18-36 on the box.
Got it from Amazon. I noticed another very similar g.skill with your timings while i was looking.
Exoticus same here. I was about to buy them
Should there be a noticeable difference in gaming between 16-16-16-36 and 16-18-18-36? I have i7 7700k
There is also a 16-19-19-19-39 of the same model...
@@ArthurM1863 no. 16 and 36 are the numbers that matter, both r same. u will barely see a difference on 18 42... though i guess the lower latency ones can be lowered more than the other ones when overclocking
So you had a gain of 1% to 2% perf by spending 136£... Definitly worth ^^.
Worth every penny as clearly mentioned in the video!!!!
@@ricco123tube Well, I definitly don't think so but... Whatever, as long as you are happy with your purchase, it is all that matters !
I say in the same sentence that the money is better spent on a more powerful gpu.
I on the other hand have spare cash to splash so not an issue for me.
@@niklosupinfo I think it's worth it in the long term
@@ricco123tube Why didn't you splash the cash on a better CPU? The difference to FPS would be a lot greater.
I have two different sets of ddr4. Dominator platinum rgb 3200 cl 16-18-18-36, and G.skill 3600 cl 16-16-16-36..
Cinebench r20
Corsair 5200pts
G.skill 5100pts..
I thought faster ram will benefit in thise test, but is not.. Why..?
Lol your cas literally the same. There is no difference between them. 5100pts and 5200pts not that big
I’m buying these sticks!
OMG! Another "supposed" benchmark vid for "gaming" with only 16GB of Ram! The absolute MINIMUM for Any new gaming title in the last 3+ years! If only 1 RUclipsr could actually do a benchmark for Latency VS Mhz that actually had results that mean anything with 32GB of ram. DONT EVEN BOTHER doing a benchmark Ram comparison vid for "Gaming" with a lousy 16GB! Save yourself & anyone that wants to know thew actual difference the time please. Anyone know a single RUclipsr that has used 32GB or over for a Timings VS Mhz video?? just one vid is all I want! When I buy the new Ram this month I might upload the FIRST one! Finally.
Nah!
Okay question all ram works with anyone type of ryzen or intel because i got this exact ram and it came with intel xmp 2.0 ready no idea what the means
the difference is nearly nothing and not worth the money.. decent 16gb above 3200 mhz with low latency cost pretty much 50% more then corsair xmp with cl18.. rather invest that in decent gpu
Yeah. That's what i said.
why do people always need nvidia when amd can do just as good job
CUDA cores and Iray
Alot of people are acknowledging ryzen now
Nvidia has always been the best at gpu but amd does have good value for performance. Amd is doing really well in the CPU sector now.
Not always the best. At times AMD dominated Nvidia and yet no one bought AMD graphics cards which lead to where we are today.
Lack of competition is never good.
Nvidia is an better quality product never will buy shitty cheap AMD cards for my rig even to save some penny's
Ryzen 5 3400 g and gskill 3600 mhz ram ram max mhz 3300 mhz docp dped 3200 mhz what the problem
Its zen+, 12nm. Not zen 2 7nm.
Is the G.SKILL Ripjaws V 16GB 3600mhz cl16 ram compatible with b450 tomahawk max?
What you have to look at is if the motherboard accepts ddr3 ddr2 or ddr4 dram with the newest being ddr4, a motherboard only supports 1 type of ram with it often being ddr4 on new moitherboards and ddr3 on a little bit older ones. And if the motherboard accepts the ram it will be compatible with everything else aswell.
Yes
@@Hugo-xr4rg thanks for this
g-skill ripjaw v 32gb 3600mhz cl16 for ryzen 9 3900x ?
What is the specific question??
@@ricco123tube can that ram be compatible with ryzen 9 3900x? By compatible i mean the frequency is it fast enough for ryzen 9
It would work very well indeed.
@@ricco123tube Okay thanks for replying!
i used Dram tool for ryzen to overclock my G-skill flare x 3200 cl14 to 3600mhz .. cl14 :)
2:24 that’s what you call a misleading graph 😂. Starts at 7565😂😂😂 2:39 that’s how it should look, almost the same
If no numbers were on screen I'd agree. Suppose it's the difference between a picture book and a book with words.
😁
I just bought 4x4 for $90
What model number? There are two that look same but are different.
@@ricco123tube G Skill F4-3200C16-4GVKB 4x4GB
Will it work on ryzen 5 3600
And mbo gigabyte ab350m ds3h v2 ?
Should work fine.
Not quite the same as i tested but will serve you well.
@@ricco123tube ok ty.
Can you try a 1080p CS go benchmark, if you have it? I wonder if my intel 9600k chip would notice a difference.
I'm afraid I don't have CS go.
Intel chips do see a boost but no way near the Levels Ryzen does, because Ryzen has much higher latency due to the way the memory IO controller works and communicates with the CCX's. Depending on memory Ryzen can see upto 21-23% gain in minimum frame rates while on a Intel platform it's around 7%, of course these are only in CPU bound games or graphics on low.
@@ricco123tube CSGO is free to play now if I recall correctly but yeah
what's the difference between cl18 and cl16?
Tighter timings which improves performance, especially when using Ryzen.
RipJaws "veee" ??? It's roman numeral... it's RipJaws five.
Bro how did u buy the g skill for 130 in black friday
its 82 dollars for cl16 and less for cl18
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0199STG76/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jOX6EbX9B70BG
This is the 16-16-16-36 not the cheaper 16-19-19-39.
Also, this is the UK so prices are higher and also this was purchased when prices weren't as low as now.
Not in stock
I think now I regret buying CL15 ram...
Yeah....better spending on better gpu or cpu.
Should hold price better on used market though.
@@ricco123tube actually I don't regret it at all xD I thought less CL was worse. I got a 2x8 Corsair 3000 mhz CL15 for only 55€ second handed. I think it was a bargain.
Now I think I just have to OC to 3400 or 3600 and I'd have a pretty solid RAM.
Well good luck with the Corsair OC, I've not had much luck.
just seen your amazon review on the listing. do you think this would be ok with 4x sticks rather than the 2 on XMP with a B450 tomahawk max. Ryzen 3600 OC to 4.5Ghz
I have the two gskill sticks in a msi b450i mb and all works well.
I have 4 of these in the x570 pc, all works well.
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083TSFB5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_R0JDFbCHG3DTH
Aida64 reached a letency of 57ns with my cl14 kit. Works wonders in fps mouse latency
so...you could of linked the items on amazon or something lol...
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RM39V5F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_MhXzFb9273H05
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0199STG76/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_AiXzFbFTBX6DQ
CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) CMW16GX4M2C3200C16 DDR4 3200MHz C16
Or
G.SKILL F4-3200C16D-16GTZR
Which is best?
Splitting hairs here. Whichever is cheaper.
Or
Go for a 3600mhz cl18 pair.
So should i get a cl16 one or the cl18? I have a deal on a shop for a gskill trident 3600mhz cl18 for 85 euros, while the cl16 one is at 135 euros🤔
I'd spend the extra money on a more powerful cpu or gpu depending on your needs.
If you have spare money and want a small improvement for what is relatively a lot of money, get the cl16.
@@ricco123tube i think ill go for cl18 and go for a 3800x , thanks!
@@1337ZodeK I went for CL 18 and got a 3900X
3200 CL 14 vs 4400 CL 18 ???
lol this RAM cost 84 dollars now xD
Are you referring to the G-skill?
If so, where is it on sale for that price?
Ricco123tube I bought it today 83.99 at Microcenter.com. Walked in and picked it up. Thanks for video!
Ricco123tube idk but if you look on pc part picker you can find some for 82$ right now
covid-19 patient zero
Haha, not quite back then.
lol that garbage came out of a lab. There is no patient zero.