PHEV is the best choice for the immediate future. Full EV's for urban-only users. PHEVs can still do the electric-only bit but have the range for longer journeys. Boot space? Buy the estate version!
Not every buyer needs adaptive cruise control unless you drive long distances regularly or lots of non-urban driving. Think New York/london/Beijing anywhere that traffic congestion is the norm. For suburban US drivers where regular cruise control is as common as aircon and highway driving is as common sticking to the 65mph speed limit, I 👍 agree
@@stephendoherty8291 I agree to disagree. I am still driving the old car with classic cruise control, but every time I get a rental company car (because of the insurance laws in the UK) I am amazed by the ACC. why I find it important? So first of all, you are correct. it's for the long-distance motorway trips (eeehhhmm... MB E class diesel anyone? ;) ) but for me it's just a part of safety systems, yes, you have an emergency braking system, but then if you have good brakes, but the guy behind you, drives 12yo car... you will get a hit anyway, but if thanks to ACC you will slow down earlier, in a more gentle way, you both may get a chance to brake.
informative review as ever Bob, Nice look on the exterior and ambient interior lighting is a nice touch, Shame about the downmarket plastic area's, anyone used to a Luxury car will be disappointed I think..
Smashing motor but I would hope that they've sorted their hybrid system reliability issues out. It's been poor up to now with other-worldly repair bills.
Bob, on the new BMW PHEVs, there's an option in the menu that allows you set the 'Battery Level' level so to speak. Meaning, if you set the 'battery level' level to 90% (or whatever), it will maintain that level when you enter that mode. Meaning, if your battery is depleted and you enter that mode, it'll charge the battery back to that 90%. FWIW, I had a 2017 330e and it was an on or off setting. My new 202 330e caught me out like the Merc did you before I figured it out So perhaps it's the same in the Merc.
They seem to have stripped out lots of features for the Irish market. Does it have Hey Mercedes, Lane and follow vehicle functions? Rear camera, speed management and usbs and climate control in the rear seats don't seem to be fitted either. Or maybe you just didn't have time to mention these features?
BBC Sounds app, it's free and all the channels are there. BBC 6 music is one of the best radio stations on earth. You can also use another app called Tunein that gets all stations in the world
Great review as always Bob. Wouldn't touch it though. Sister has 161 merc, hybrid. Starter motor went 1,000e, compressor for air suspension went 900e, torque converter went etc...Mercedes Ireland support was rubbish. Car has low mileage. Computer analysis found car stop started itself 50+ times in 6 miles. For that price, a Toyota Camry spec'd up much better option. Cheers Bob
Bob. Got my new Mercedes with your recommendations on it. Question for you ?? After been fully charged how many Km. does the click say. My max is 36 km not 50 km what was stated. Chat soon Peter
I had my last E-Class after your past review 4 years back, but changed to a Jaguar I-Pace this time. However the new front, I might as well had an A-Class. Just doesn't work for me.
Hi Bob.Try and get Mercedes to give you a drive of the E400d when its released.Its an animal of a car. Its now the only 6 Cylinder model in the E Class range. One point i want to make and maybe you have covered it in other car reviews. Im sick of car Companies especially Mercedes and BMW calling a car model lets say the new E300 which is about 245bhp but it makes a person think that it has a 3 litre engine when in fact its a 2 litre its the same as the BMW 330i which is a 2 litre again. One more figure to finish with Bob to get adapative cruise control fitted to a BMW 5 Series costs wait for it €7000.Thats because it only comes as part of the Tech plus pack. To me personally its the best safety feature any car can have after the seat belt. Nearly all VWs have it fitted as standard any car ive had since 2013 has it fitted. It brillant to have in any auto.Yes the E400d is a 3 litre engine. 😂
I have a feeling that Diesel Hybrid is somehow overlooked by automakers. PSA tried that, but gave up. Maybe, it has something to do with fact, that petrol heats up faster in town? Anyway, only thing that dissapoints me in this video, is exterior design of this E Class, which is rather bland...
A Diesel PHEV is sort of counter productive isn't it? Yes it's much more economical to use and I have always preferred it to Petrol but in this current climate of trying to protect the air quality perhaps the E Class ought to have been made to be used this a Petrol engine.
I don't agree. Everything depends on the price that you have to pay extra for a diesel, but.. there is always a but. I have two types of trips. Tesco runs or commute to work, or a gym, all three below 20 miles total. And then, during the weekend I want to go on a trip. like 200 miles per leg. and suddenly diesel PHEV is a perfect solution, because I got EV Mon-Fri and diesel during the weekend. the only question, do I really want to pay for this diesel economy for this weekend trips
@@michalklucz6907 I wonder what's the price difference between petrol and diesel PHEV, the economy savings on the weekend may not actually be that straight forward, and also petrols are just better 😁
@@mamba101 that's exactly my point. if you are driving a lot, then you don't want to carry a deadweight (motor+batteries). If you are driving short distances you may want to but a petrol... But I think about another reason... road taxes and BIK. as a PHEV you may get a nice discount, while you sill have a good diesel cruiser.
@@michalklucz6907 Oh...well then did you know that Petrol engines are lighter then Diesel engines? A PHEV would more then likely go farther on electricity with a Petrol engine fitted. No, not much consolation but till a cleaner engine.
@@daviddenley3512 yes, you are right... but if your standard trip is 20 miles, you don't care if you have a range of 30 miles with diesel or 33 with petrol. Because you need 20. You just want a car that will run on electricity Monday-Friday while you still can go for a long trip to a rural part of Scotland or travel across continental Europe.
That’s a lovely interior but can’t help thinking Merc E class is for those nearing retirement. Those who like a nice armchair to watch telly in. Who don’t like to be disturbed when eating their dinner.
@@BobFlavinVideo don’t get me wrong! I can’t wait to get to an age where I can be seen in a E class armchair, I mean saloon! I bought a similar armchair for the back this week!
Good review. Thanks, as a former merc driver, glad I'm not tempted by a 'diesel' PHEV that doesn't have adaptive cruise control. PHEVs seem even worse for climate change than ordinary efficient ICEs. Folks don't plug them in so fuel MPG is real world is awful. Folks get fed up plugging in twice a day, too much hassle, so after an initial period of enthusiasm and novelty which quickly wears off they end up just driving on liquid juice. You park up in the wind and rain at the office, are you really going to get a cable out of the boot and plug in? When leaving in your nice suit do you really want to pick up a dirty wet cable off the ground, coil it up and put it back in the boot? Good piece in IT yesterday on this.
I know. Just the concept of a Diesel PHEV solves a lot of the problems with both gas PHEV's and pure Diesels by combining the two but for some reason they don't sell them here.
@@RRW359 I'd buy a diesel-electric hybrid powered car if it were offered here in the USA. It's worse than unforgivable that they're not. You see diesel-electric powered locomotives here in the USA. I think it's long overdue for a much smaller displacement diesel-electric hybrid engine for everyday people to drive.
At your latitude there really isn’t enough sun (UV-B rays) to produce a meaningful amount of vitamin D between roughly September and April. So you should really be taking supplements, especially towards late winter/spring when your vitamin-D stores(it is stored in your fatty tissue) are getting depleted.
@@MrAndersie91 So with 10000 diesel engine production jobs in jeopardy, Mercedes thought of a clever marketing avenue of lets make a phev it sounds electric but still gives us the opportunity of polluting the atmosphere a bit longer. it's a loose loose strategy.
I like how you mix your life experience/advice into the car review. Top notch!
I have the smaller C350e petrol sport one... great yoke 4.4l/100km on average. Does not feel heavy, under 5s , 0-100kmh, brilliant car all around...
All hybrids are long range; they’ve a fuel tank
PHEV is the best choice for the immediate future. Full EV's for urban-only users. PHEVs can still do the electric-only bit but have the range for longer journeys. Boot space? Buy the estate version!
Are you going to test the GR Yaris?
Great review. You can still get the star on the bonnet on the Exclusive model (Ireland but not UK) although they are not as popular.
I am sorry, but active cruise control should be a standard in every car above 40k
Not every buyer needs adaptive cruise control unless you drive long distances regularly or lots of non-urban driving. Think New York/london/Beijing anywhere that traffic congestion is the norm. For suburban US drivers where regular cruise control is as common as aircon and highway driving is as common sticking to the 65mph speed limit, I 👍 agree
@@stephendoherty8291 I agree to disagree. I am still driving the old car with classic cruise control, but every time I get a rental company car (because of the insurance laws in the UK) I am amazed by the ACC. why I find it important? So first of all, you are correct. it's for the long-distance motorway trips (eeehhhmm... MB E class diesel anyone? ;) ) but for me it's just a part of safety systems, yes, you have an emergency braking system, but then if you have good brakes, but the guy behind you, drives 12yo car... you will get a hit anyway, but if thanks to ACC you will slow down earlier, in a more gentle way, you both may get a chance to brake.
Been standard kit on many "inferior" cars for a few years now, but we don't yearn for an "inferior" car .. and Merc/BMW/Audi know this!
Its part of the driving assistant pack the pack costs €2768.
Yes i totally agree. To get adapative cruise control on a BMW 5 Series it costs €7k as its part of the Tech plus pack.
Nice down to earth review. My car has the odd thing that’s a pain in the hole too.
Nice review. You can get the the Adapative Cruise Control as an option it comes in the Driver Assist Pack.The pack costs about 3k.
Another 3k on top of a 75k car! You’d never notice in the PCP deal 😀
Nice yoke alri👍
informative review as ever Bob, Nice look on the exterior and ambient interior lighting is a nice touch, Shame about the downmarket plastic area's, anyone used to a Luxury car will be disappointed I think..
I just bought one used a basic 300de electric seats only 20000 and it's absolutely glorious
I am geting one two, used one, are you still happy with the choice, mainly reliability and service vise. :-) thx for reply
Smashing motor but I would hope that they've sorted their hybrid system reliability issues out. It's been poor up to now with other-worldly repair bills.
Don’t know why Mercedes don’t just stack the batteries behind the back seats
But you can unfold the seats than?
Bob, on the new BMW PHEVs, there's an option in the menu that allows you set the 'Battery Level' level so to speak. Meaning, if you set the 'battery level' level to 90% (or whatever), it will maintain that level when you enter that mode. Meaning, if your battery is depleted and you enter that mode, it'll charge the battery back to that 90%. FWIW, I had a 2017 330e and it was an on or off setting. My new 202 330e caught me out like the Merc did you before I figured it out So perhaps it's the same in the Merc.
It used to be there in Mercedes but they've removed the ability to charge from the engine. Co2 levels probably
@@BobFlavinVideo Wonder if it's a diesel thing and there in the petrol variant.
@@vincentrichardson1205 Only battery level on petrol variant too, no charging using the engine.
Gr8 video Bob! Thx
They seem to have stripped out lots of features for the Irish market. Does it have Hey Mercedes, Lane and follow vehicle functions? Rear camera, speed management and usbs and climate control in the rear seats don't seem to be fitted either. Or maybe you just didn't have time to mention these features?
How are you getting bbc radio great review
BBC Sounds app, it's free and all the channels are there. BBC 6 music is one of the best radio stations on earth. You can also use another app called Tunein that gets all stations in the world
I'm seriously thinking of one of these. Did the rear seat coming down ever get addressed?
Great review. E75k but no A/CC - c'mon MB...
Best review ever. I’m going to get one
Great review as always Bob. Wouldn't touch it though. Sister has 161 merc, hybrid. Starter motor went 1,000e, compressor for air suspension went 900e, torque converter went etc...Mercedes Ireland support was rubbish. Car has low mileage. Computer analysis found car stop started itself 50+ times in 6 miles. For that price, a Toyota Camry spec'd up much better option. Cheers Bob
Is that a c350e?
Yes, c350e
Bad news for me 🥴 Luckily I still have about 9 months of warranty left
Bob. Got my new Mercedes with your recommendations on it. Question for you ?? After been fully charged how many Km. does the click say. My max is 36 km not 50 km what was stated. Chat soon Peter
Is this car better than Bmw 5 serie Plug in hybrid Sir? Which one would you buy for comfort and less noise in cabin?
I had my last E-Class after your past review 4 years back, but changed to a Jaguar I-Pace this time. However the new front, I might as well had an A-Class. Just doesn't work for me.
Is this 2021 model?
Hi Bob.Try and get Mercedes to give you a drive of the E400d when its released.Its an animal of a car. Its now the only 6 Cylinder model in the E Class range.
One point i want to make and maybe you have covered it in other car reviews. Im sick of car Companies especially Mercedes and BMW calling a car model lets say the new E300 which is about 245bhp but it makes a person think that it has a 3 litre engine when in fact its a 2 litre its the same as the BMW 330i which is a 2 litre again.
One more figure to finish with Bob to get adapative cruise control fitted to a BMW 5 Series costs wait for it €7000.Thats because it only comes as part of the Tech plus pack. To me personally its the best safety feature any car can have after the seat belt. Nearly all VWs have it fitted as standard any car ive had since 2013 has it fitted. It brillant to have in any auto.Yes the E400d is a 3 litre engine. 😂
I would love to see the e400d PHEV. that’ll be one amazing car.
I don't like the fact the engine could be cold after driving 25km or so before u hit the pedal to go on the highway for instance..
This not a problem, the motor is heated while you are driving in electric modus .So the motor is not cold and there will be no problems with wear .
“Eco, which allows the car to try and be as ecological as it possibly can be” 😂
I have a feeling that Diesel Hybrid is somehow overlooked by automakers. PSA tried that, but gave up. Maybe, it has something to do with fact, that petrol heats up faster in town? Anyway, only thing that dissapoints me in this video, is exterior design of this E Class, which is rather bland...
A Diesel PHEV is sort of counter productive isn't it? Yes it's much more economical to use and I have always preferred it to Petrol but in this current climate of trying to protect the air quality perhaps the E Class ought to have been made to be used this a Petrol engine.
I don't agree. Everything depends on the price that you have to pay extra for a diesel, but.. there is always a but. I have two types of trips. Tesco runs or commute to work, or a gym, all three below 20 miles total. And then, during the weekend I want to go on a trip. like 200 miles per leg. and suddenly diesel PHEV is a perfect solution, because I got EV Mon-Fri and diesel during the weekend. the only question, do I really want to pay for this diesel economy for this weekend trips
@@michalklucz6907 I wonder what's the price difference between petrol and diesel PHEV, the economy savings on the weekend may not actually be that straight forward, and also petrols are just better 😁
@@mamba101 that's exactly my point. if you are driving a lot, then you don't want to carry a deadweight (motor+batteries). If you are driving short distances you may want to but a petrol... But I think about another reason... road taxes and BIK. as a PHEV you may get a nice discount, while you sill have a good diesel cruiser.
@@michalklucz6907 Oh...well then did you know that Petrol engines are lighter then Diesel engines? A PHEV would more then likely go farther on electricity with a Petrol engine fitted.
No, not much consolation but till a cleaner engine.
@@daviddenley3512 yes, you are right... but if your standard trip is 20 miles, you don't care if you have a range of 30 miles with diesel or 33 with petrol. Because you need 20. You just want a car that will run on electricity Monday-Friday while you still can go for a long trip to a rural part of Scotland or travel across continental Europe.
PS: Interesting that its a diesel PHEV rather than petrol
The rear seat vents look like a little face 😀
Clock not click 👍
1K with a tank of 60l? My G30 does 1300km easy with 66l tank
That’s a lovely interior but can’t help thinking Merc E class is for those nearing retirement. Those who like a nice armchair to watch telly in. Who don’t like to be disturbed when eating their dinner.
I used to think that until I drove this one, it's still not sporty but I'd be happy driving it forever
@@BobFlavinVideo don’t get me wrong! I can’t wait to get to an age where I can be seen in a E class armchair, I mean saloon! I bought a similar armchair for the back this week!
Good review. Thanks, as a former merc driver, glad I'm not tempted by a 'diesel' PHEV that doesn't have adaptive cruise control. PHEVs seem even worse for climate change than ordinary efficient ICEs. Folks don't plug them in so fuel MPG is real world is awful. Folks get fed up plugging in twice a day, too much hassle, so after an initial period of enthusiasm and novelty which quickly wears off they end up just driving on liquid juice. You park up in the wind and rain at the office, are you really going to get a cable out of the boot and plug in? When leaving in your nice suit do you really want to pick up a dirty wet cable off the ground, coil it up and put it back in the boot? Good piece in IT yesterday on this.
Having this car, I plug in several times a day on a 7kw home charger, no problem. I do well over a 1000 miles in a full tank. Best car I had
Diesel/Electric Hybrid? Hell no! I consider it a damn travesty that such an engine isn't available here in the USA.
I know. Just the concept of a Diesel PHEV solves a lot of the problems with both gas PHEV's and pure Diesels by combining the two but for some reason they don't sell them here.
@@RRW359 I'd buy a diesel-electric hybrid powered car if it were offered here in the USA. It's worse than unforgivable that they're not. You see diesel-electric powered locomotives here in the USA. I think it's long overdue for a much smaller displacement diesel-electric hybrid engine for everyday people to drive.
At your latitude there really isn’t enough sun (UV-B rays) to produce a meaningful amount of vitamin D between roughly September and April. So you should really be taking supplements, especially towards late winter/spring when your vitamin-D stores(it is stored in your fatty tissue) are getting depleted.
Major fail by Mercedes with those steering wheel controls.
3:40 but the booze space is enough it seems 😁
58K in Germany, bloody gov.....
Ah Jaysus no, not in black
This mercedes looks good but is so cheaply made,is all plastic where ever you touch
Not bad for a taxi lol
Bob really? a diesel!
No... Diesel PHEV 🤣
@@MrAndersie91 So with 10000 diesel engine production jobs in jeopardy, Mercedes thought of a clever marketing avenue of lets make a phev it sounds electric but still gives us the opportunity of polluting the atmosphere a bit longer. it's a loose loose strategy.
72000 euro for a basically standard E class is getting a bit steep. its a 50000 euro car,