Year 2 with the Jotul F500 Oslo, improvements and future plans, mistakes and experiments
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- year 2 with the jotul. please forgive my mic performance. i made adjustments and it didnt work perfectly. yet. so sorry about inconsistent with volume levels in the popping. I think I have it sorted now after I'm done of course
Thanks for sharing. I just got the Oslo 500V last fall. Overall I am happy with it, but I found if I let the coals build up too much (which are nice to have to get the fire quickly going in the morning), the stove different get as hot. I feel like I am turning it into😮 a smaller stove by reducing the exposed burn area of the metal sides and back. I'm really puzzled by the ash pan. I just don't use it and let it stay full of ash. When I emptied it once, a bunch of ash from above feel into the void and I could not put the pan back in. So I had to vacuum it out. No problem that day since the ash was cold, but if it was hot ash it would have been a real problem since I don't want to be vacuuming hot ah or buying a special vacuum. I to like smaller pieces as they are easier to place. I did cut a bunch of my wood at 12" so I could put them in NS. That just seems so much easier than using the side door.
I've had the F500 v3 since Aug 2020, what I've found to work well is after the overnight burn, I use a flat shovel to move the ash/embers around so whatever falls through the grate goes into the ash pan. There has always been big enough embers that stay up in the stove to do a restart without "relighting." I usually crack open a window to allow a better draft until the flue heats up. I then empty the pan every morning prior to reloading with wood. I dump it outside in a metal pail so the turn around time is pretty quick, than empty the pail when that gets full. If I'm primarily burning Ash wood everyday is almost necessary, other well seasoned hardwoods you can go two days, "usually" between pan dumps. Just for the few moments that I have the pan out, not enough falls below to prevent the pan from going all the way in so the door can close. Doing this, I hardly ever have to clean under where the ash pan goes.
The stove is a bit picky and when the coals get too high. You have to open all the air up and they pile up. Also. Its a good idea to clean out the air inlet holes and passage a few times a year. Or the stove is so air tight it may put the coals out and you will have a stove full. Keeping those holes open and clean is important for function. Also. You need to empty the ask pan more is all it means. And only after you raked the coals to let all the ash drop. I empty mine every other day during lots of burning. It’s been way too long since I’ve made videos. But I do have the third video in the works likely to be released in the fall. And i will cover these topics
@@kennethconner5260 When reloading always from the side door, shovel the ashes from the rear to the front. Then when reinserting the ash pan there will be no ashes at the back of the ash pan slot. Try a small hand hoe to clean out the ash pan holder before reinserting the ash pan. From over a decade with the Oslo.
I've had the Consolidated Dutchwest Extra Large for at least 20 years and like it a lot. The F500 is my dream stove if I ever buy again. That's a beautiful stove. I wouldn't own a stove without a grate and ash pan.
I love it
How about the carrabassett?
Very well done videos. Been heating with a F600 for 14 years.
Look into top down fire building if you haven’t already. Keep up the good work and thanks for your content
I will be doing a video just on that very shortly. Thank you
Thank you for the follow up video! We just replaced out late 1970's fisher grandpa bear with a 2005 model jotul f500. It has definitely been a learning curve burning this stove but we are really liking it so far!
Almost my exact story. My father has had his fisher forever. Since the 70’s. Still uses it. Im going ti make a video about his old school set up sometime.
@@AlfonsLC im going to be building a workshop/barn in the next few years. The fisher will go in there. I have a hard time letting go of things lol. They are great stoves. Very user friendly and will burn basically whatever you put in them. They love to eat some wood though!
@@AlfonsLC please do make a video on that. We bought a home with a huge old fisher. It has trees all across the front. We are scared to use it before we learn all there is to know about wood burning stoves.
Not only does the wood continue to season but it also absorbs heat and makes a massive mass heater.
We keep our wood in the basement too... All I've seen is a few spiders but nothing else... Stay safe... Have a great day...
Thanks mine you too !
@@AlfonsLC My stove is actually a wood/coal furnace from the late 30s to early 40s... No markings on it... About 5 feet tall and 4 feet across the center... Holds a lot of wood, you can get a 26-inch log in but it really works best with 18 to 20-inch logs that are 14 inches across the center... Even dampening it off it'll run you out of the house... Has 10-inch ducts to each room... If you load it up you can melt snow 2 foot from the basement of the house on the outside... The wife wants to get a new or newer one... She doesn't understand the old one will need to be cut up to be removed and I refuse to remove it because it would destroy it...
Mike that sounds really cool. And yes it should be preserved. I think i know what your next video should be ! This time of year everyone is looking at stoves. Id love to see it and find out some of the history behind it of you had it.
Getting ready to put the new 445 in this week
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing! About to instal the F45.
I heat with a legacy tlc 2000 I usually burn anthracite once it gets really cold , this year coal prices threw the roof and is unavailable around my area I’ve had a pallet ordered since June - I used to run a federal consolidated Dutch west in the house but that was replaced with the tlc 2000
In the garage I have Dutch west by Vermont castings with the Cat
I’m excited for
The next video , really enjoyed thanks 😊
Fantastic video! Thank you for all your hard work!
Any timeframe on year 3 update? I'm finally, 2 years debating, about to pull the trigger on this model and your video will probably be my final recommendation.
I had some life events happen. Im going to back into the youtube game very soon. I will get it done. Thanks allot for reaching out. Hope theres still some interest.
You make great videos buddy! Congrats!
Thank you !!
Jotul makes an amazing stove. The 500 was my biggest seller when I had the Hearth Business. Hey I see by your plate you are in PA too.
Yepp. North eastern pa
@@AlfonsLC we are in Northwestern. I started a water plant up in Ulster in 2009. Beautiful country and wonderful people up there! Everyone was wonderful! Loved it!
Happy burning!
@@752brickie ulster! I’m in Athens PA! Small world!
@@StraightPineAcres yep only a few Mike apart. I ate at a restaurant coming into town from the south on the right side . I cannot remember their name but the food was amazing!
I work allot in that area. Water trucking
I would never jam pack a firebox full like that. Never more than 1/2 full and even that is too much for most stoves. The Oslo must be a good stove! Thanks for the video.
I agree. Its generally not a great idea. But keep in mind. The wood is bone bone dry and the stove does a good job with it.
The Oslo 500 was going to be my second choice but the new ones are catalytic and I wanted to stay away from that. I ran a Regency stove for 30 years but wanted a bigger one so I bought a new PE Alderlea T6 and started using it this winter. It's not without its faults and I've already made 3 modifications to the stove:( Anyway, I'm in Bruce County Ontario only a couple of hundred miles (edit: more like 400 miles) away from you and that lovely bridge.
Jotul is designed to be filled with wood like he is doing. It may be the difference between a cat stove and this.
great videos...love to see video of when you adjust the lever to bank down.
A very good video, Guy. Thanx. But I am startled: can you really heat the house with the stove in the cell? How does the warm air go up to the man rooms in this case?
Thanks allot!! Its described in the first video. Natural convection.
I use ammonia to clean fireplace and woodstove windows. Works really well.
You shouldnt. If you buy fireplace cleaner it is ammonia free specifically because this causes the ceramic to crack
Thank you for your reply, the Nicholson bridge is also known as the Tunkhannock Viaduct. I was able to find an article on Wikipedia with your info.
I appreciate the comment. I’m going to do a short video about what it is and a brief history of it in the future because many people are asking about it
Also. If you call it that in nicholson. Welp. Dems fightin words (-;
Damn that scratching of the glass!
I still feel that cringe 10 min after I heard that sound.
😀
Try mother's aluminum and mag polish with a standard cotton rag or washcloth I'm a metal fabricator and it's what I used to clean my lens and guess my welding lens a little bit more of a boost and life expectancy maybe it'll help you
I appreciate the suggestion. But this is the problem I already fixed. The ash is imbedded i. The glass. Needed to he buffed out. But mothers is good shit. Theres a video i linked that shows the repair if youre interested.
The Jotul F500 Oslo is our second Jotul (after our old Jotul #6) and we're happy with it. However, I watch the Jotul F500 Oslo on RUclips and they all have very clean window. That's not the case for us. After a few hours of operation, the window turns dark gray and we can't see the fire anymore. What should we do to correct the situation? Our wood lighting is like most of those on RUclips, but unlike them, with a flame that burns upwards, our flame comes back towards the glass and that's where the grey deposit (soot) builds up on the glass and prevents us from seeing the fire. Thank you for your suggestions.
So the ashpan door seal seems to be letting air through. This is what i sounds like. Hard to say without seeing it. Maybe you are not closing it right. I made that mistake too
Ok we are ready for video #3
Hey how are you lighting your fires? I switched to Top Down 2 years ago in my Jotul F400 and it's been so much better. Thanks
Video in the works.
Great video, hope to see an update video soon.
There will be one more with the finished room and a fee final thoughts.
Thank You for a fine video !
Thank you so much. Great video. Couldn’t find your video on how you fixed your glass. Did you ever post it?
Its up. Linked at the end also
Ha I know where you are, I'm few miles away... thanks for the video!
I just said the same thing
Thank for the follow up. I just purchased my first wood stove Jotul 500 all your tips will help me tremendously! It looks like you have a good draft. I have it in the basement as well, but I have to run my pipe through the wall and up the side of the house. I hear I may be having drafting problems with the pipe being cold on start ups. Time will tell...
I think it will draft will be slow to start. As long as you dont have flat spots more than a foot you’ll be fine. Just burn sole cardboard to get the pipe warmed up a bit. Im filming the third year now. Big changes to my basement and my final system of wood cutting. Also. I have a double insulated chimney liner. You should always use insulated pipe with these gas reburning stoves.
Nice stove, nice review and nice firewood stacks. How many sq ft are you heating? What kind of temps do you see on the main floor?
My basement is still pretty drafty. Not the best on one side. The main floor is about 980sqft. Plus basement. With a steady fire it can roast you out even when its 0 upstairs is well insulated. I show some temps of out and in in the video.
No one seriously using a wood stove for major heating places it in a cellar . Wood stoves are for heating areas where you spend time; local heat. Sure "heat rises", but.... In a cellar most of the BTUs pass out the foundation into dirt. In over 12 years with the Oslo ( and another stove in another part of the home ) we never used the front door since the ashes pile up and fall out when loading. Experience.
Im sure your way is the only way. Been heating my house for years this way. Works great. Its my only heat source. My house is always warm and i dont use much wood. So it must be just fine.
@@AlfonsLC No not the only way. You have another heating source ?
@annaaron3510 no other heat source. Just firewood from one stove.
Awesome video on your amazing stove. Seeing that you heat your whole house with wood, do you think a catalytic stove would've saved you on the amount of wood used? My understanding is that catalytic stoves have extremely slow burn times of up to 30 hours. I'm currently shopping for a wood stove, your videos have been extremely helpful - I'm thinking about going with the same model!
The only model now available is the cat oslo. I cant imagine the burn times being that long. I suspect whoever told you that is exaggerating. But again. It depends on what you cann burn time. My holds hot could to start another fire after 25 hours or more. But the stove is cold to the touch
@@AlfonsLC Thanks! Been doing a lot of research. I was looking at some soapstone stoves, they claim 30 hrs but I think that is more heat retention via thermal mass. However it seems as though some of the Blaze King stoves can do a very slow and low controlled burn for 20+ hrs as this one review claims. Seems similar to your Oslo.
ruclips.net/video/ViUvF_n90i0/видео.html
@hapaboy0808 ill check it out. I dont consider a bed of coals. Burn time. But. It maybe fair to say so. It produced some heat that way
just bought this stove as I love your videos. Thank You! Do you have an suggestions for hearth material for a more finished space. Will tile work? Seems like the stove would crack tile?
Wow. Well. I hope you like it as much as i do. When it comes to stoves. Nothing beats natural stone. There are options for more finished spaces and still have natural stone. With a good contractor. But tile is alright if you like that sort of thing. If the tiles ever got hot enough to crack the stove would be far too close.
thanks this is very helpful
Im glad. Making a final part soon. I love the way my basement turned out.
I Hope all is well with you and Your family. Please be well. We all look foreword to your year 3 review, and hope more will come!
GodBless, stay safe and be well.
I very much apologize for the delay in videos. I have not produced one in a year. But my circumstances have now improved and I plan on making some very soon. I hope I still have an audience left by the time I get around to it. This comment is very encouraging for me to move forward and out of this slump. Thank you
I have a Jotul 600. That stove you have is awfully high end for basement heating. You really have things figured out but you really need to move the stove and get at least another 2 lengths of stove pipe. This will dramatically increase your heating. I have 5 1/2 lengths of pipe going up to a 28 ft vaulted ceiling.
You wanna' talk about heat?
Oh thats a nice use of hot pipes for sure. Sounds great. I am filming year three now. I think you will like what i do with what ive got to work with. Its very different down there right now (-: the 600 fire light is awesome. Loads from the wrong side for my set up or i might gotten it. But it also wouldve cooked me out. Sometimes this does.
When are you going to do the next video on this wood burning stove?
Im very sorry. Im trying to complete the basement project to button up a final video with final basement look and function.
@@AlfonsLC okay sounds good. I can’t wait !
We bought a house with a similar model and it’s my first winter with wood heat wish me luck 😅
Good luck. Seasoned dry hardwood is key !!
Good stove!
Are you still liking your Jotul i am about 4 days from ordering mine would you say its a good efficient stove what are some good burn times
Thanks for checking it out. The burn time depends on many factors. Wood. Dryness and spilt size. 5 hours is average. Holds hot bed of coals for 10-12
@@AlfonsLC will you be making a part 3 i have really enjoyed your wood stove videos and have watched them both many times before finally pulling the trigger on my Jotul 500 v3 cf today
I see that the new F500 V3 now has a catalyst with refractor (insulation) above it, my CDW has the same setup and the one thing I dislike about that is, the stovetop won't get hot enough to cook on. I wonder if the new F500 will be the same. That would definitely be a deal breaker with me.
The government ruins everything they touch. They’re even ruining would fires that I’ve been heating homes and they were homes in human history. It is utter and complete nonsense.
@@AlfonsLC we bought the last one left before the government got a hold of it. Jotul Oslo 500, I think it is called. The old fisher that was here in our new house is on the opposite end of the house.
That old stove will last longer than the house.
How do you adjust the air control after reloading on hot coals? Just let it catch then damp in down in one step?
I have a video planned talking more about this actually. But these stoves must be up to temp before cutting the air flow. No dampener in the pipe.
Hi I want to ask you about the stove f 500 after 2 years of using it did the iron of it have problems or the in side pipes air pipes and how you find it it’s good or you will change it to something else and thank you
I readying for my third year now. I have no plans on changing it. So far its held together perfect except for the mistakes i have made.
We never got a year 3 update...
I think is is the year i will finally finish my basement updates and be done with it all
@@AlfonsLC sweet! Can't wait. I've been binging wood heating videos again
@denverbasshead i have a few other project started with firewood. Just gotta make the time to edit and post. Thanks for checking me out.
Nice video. Why do you have the stove in the basement rather than in your living room? How are getting heat to your living areas?
Its explained in part one.
Does that interesting bridge in the background have a name?
Nicholson bridge (-:
Great video make more
Thank you there is much more to come. Your three is in production as we speak. It will be the last year of burning experience. As I feel there will be a little left to add to the topic. Maybe after 10 years. But there is still more firewood and other stove content to come in the future
Why do I keep stumbling across videos of people starting fires in their woodstoves with a blowtorch?! Lol! Crumple up some newspaper and light a match, dude! :-D
Who the hell reads newspapers anymore lol
Have you ever tried putting large full logs in there that are NOT split? I find that putting non split wood in the fire gives me longer burner times. It the tree has a large diameter then cut them into 8 or 10" thick sections and dont split. so you get one big huge disc in the firebox and let it go I find it burns for a long long time compared to split wood.
Sure. I did. I wish i filmed the burnns with full logs. But i didnt. Like a fool. The burn times putting out meaningful heat remained the same. The bed of coals holds longer with low low heat put out.
@@AlfonsLC interesting. every stove is different and all the different shapes and sizes make a difference. love your vids watched the whole series on your wood stove. I have a Regency CI2700 pro series wood stove "insert" basically a wood stove that fits inside an existing fireplace
@@scottcoleman7304 Thanks so much I appreciate that. I do a variety of things in this channel. But I’m going to be focusing more on stoves and firewood’s and metalworking in the coming months. I believe the difference with these logs is that they are not seasoned as well as the other stuff I burn. And actually hinder the burn in this particular stove a little bit. It is much harder to get an on split piece of wood seasoned maybe if I had some that were a few years old. It would work better.
Does the jotul have a air wash System ?
Yes. This one does
Where is that bridge in the background?
Nicholson Pennsylvania
Ill be making a video in this and other amazing old rail road bridges in my area.
@@AlfonsLC Nice! My family is from Altoona. Horseshoe Curve. Love PA. Great state. We are......!
Update plece 😃
Did you try cleaning the glass with ash and water?
I appreciate the Thought. Please check out the pin to comment and the follow up video on the subject. Thanks for checking in
give us un new video, it is very good
Thanks. Theres lots of stove stuff coming. This is year three. Filming now. All year.
Use cold ash an water make a paste to clean the glass
I wish i had a buck for Every time this has been in the comments (-: there is a follow up video on this topic. If you care to see how the glass was repaired. Lye water can clean it. Its not dirty. Its damaged. Thanks for caring though
Just curious, how well insulated is your house?
It has basic insulation under the siding only. The walls are old plaster. No insulation between the wall and the plaster. The windows are brand new and well sealed. The basement wall is completely on insulated also on the side that is not in the dirt. But that is something I will address this winter likely
A Guy Named Alfons ah okay, yeah insulation will make a big a difference. I wish it would get colder here in southern Louisiana (Just to have a fire of some sort) but not while in my current house. It’s well over 100 years old and only has 10KW of electric heat. I spray foamed the attic and under the floor and it’s made a huge difference as far as cooling, but the single pane windows and 11 foot ceilings still make it difficult to heat whenever we get a cold snap. Since we have nat-gas available, installing a furnace will be our next purchase. Been putting it off for other expenses.
@@jaysson1151 well. At least you have access to the best boudin down there. I work in the natural gas industry. Lots of Louisiana guys up here. They eat well. My house was built in 1899. Also very old. But it had some good updates that i will continue. After a cold bight shift. I am sitting in front of the stove right now getting the fire going again before I go to sleep. It held a bed of coals for over 14 hours and is not putting out any heat but a fire is quickly started. Its a great comfort to have in the cold. And i love the change of seasons up here.
A Guy Named Alfons lucky you! I’m jealous! I just play videos on RUclips of fireplaces with weather in the background just to simulate having a hot cozy fire! I’m gonna live vicariously thru you now hahahahaha! 😁
@@jaysson1151 haha. I have my jotul fire screen video. I use it myself in summer (-:
Nobody would ever have dry leaves in or around a wood stove......
I have a mask on. So why not
when you choose to air dry your firewood indoors you also choose dangerous airborne fungi and spores
Should i wear a mask indoors ? Live in terror and change my way of life for all small insignificant risks in it ? Na. Been living in a house full of firewood my 41 years. Hard for the to be any kind of problem when its air dried for almost a year before coming in amd becoming even drier on just a day or 2.
No you do not need to use a mask indoors You can just stack your firewood outdoors!💪🏻🤗
@@atouristfromdenmark9422 youre clearly not paying attention. Do you think someone is putting wet wood to season indoors ?
Lots of wood near the stove........
Drys and burns better as winter goes by. The temps for it to burst into flame are much higher than it could ever get that far from it. The floor above would burn first.
@@AlfonsLC Don't play smart. A spark set fire to my friend's barn. You can't imagine how FAST it was.
Are you sure i cant imagine ? A spark can come from anything and set fire to any home at any moment. On the rare occasion this stove throws sparks. You keep the door cracked until finished. Even when thats not being done. Those sparks dont travel more than 15 inches from the open door. The wood is 7 or 8 feet from the door. Either way. Caution isnt a bad thing. You do what you feel comfortable and i will do the same.
Was that diesel steam furnace an OM617? ;)
Lol.
Ci vogliono i sottotitoli in italiano
Buona. il mio italiano è una merda
@@AlfonsLC in sintesi ... È una stufa buona oppure no ?
la stufa è ottima. uso meno legna e ottengo più calore. più. la vista è bellissima. aggiungerò un altro video su questa stufa
You even warned us that we were going to cringe, I didn’t believe you… 🥴😖
You overheat your stove again and again - it must work close to 50% full, not full of fuel - there is no place to properly burn and gas circulation. All this cause you problems with glass.