I agree I have a 650 lbs cruiser and as I get older I want something a little lighter and nimble, I can't believe Harley can't make a 600 lbs bike with the 107 engine
Nobody huh? Large brush. Sorry ya can't afford one but there are folks that want a full, HD touring bike and not a hobbled together Advanblack franken bike.... bruh
I agree! They say they need new customers and yet every bike is a fortune. Who cares about the RG LTD when sales are already down 15%. It seems to me someone is trying to kill HD😡
Bring back the Road King Classic ( the special is ugly ) and the Electra Glide Classic. All limited models should have a turbo or supercharger from the factory. Get rid of all the electrical crap. We don’t need traction control or navigation or ride modes. We want motorcycles, not gaming centers.
Me and you both on the 117 RKS. I just don’t know how I could part with my Snake Venom RKS. Maybe if HD come out with a 117 RKS in Snake Venom…oh yeah!
I want something light and packed with features like the Nightster Special except "re-imagined" and made much better looking. I don't wanna hear anything about 800+lb baggers. I will never want to wrangle 800 lbs. Cmon lets get a more traditional Sportster but with the benefits of the Nightster Special like weight savings, increased power and a ton of features + tech. At least give us a better exhaust on that Nightster, clean up the left side and rid all the plastic.
Hey Man Mountain Mike, this is what I love about this channel, you are on top of what is happening at HDMC corporate. Looking forward to seeing what you have done to your SG. Y’all peace out and have a Merry Christmas
Be cool to have the Ultra in ST with a 121 with Heated Grips, Hard Lowers, and Lighted Tour Pack! Crossed fingers. Thanks for the insight! Great video. 2024’s are all over the dealerships none of them appealed to the real tourer. Me lol
I just bought a 2024 Streetglide. I definitely prefer the Limited and pulled the trigger because I was told that the Limited was definitely discontinued for 2025.
I did the same. Figured no full dresser so I pulled the trigger on what I felt was a good deal on a 24. May or May not be upset. Will have to wait and see.
I have to admit this is the first time I’ve been highly concerned about The Motor Company in a very long time. They are lost and their woke ceo has made so many bad decisions it’s almost like he’s trying to ruin the company. So many dealers are closing and the ones that remain are packed with 2024s. A price increase is a non-starter too. The limited decision would be good - they would have lost millions with the stupid package idea. People could have gotten it after market way cheaper. Plus it’s more than just a tour pack- lowers, windshield, suspension.
Looking forward to seeing what they do with the crash bar and lowers. Would LOVE some lowers on my '24 RG (hopefully they will be available in the OEM parts section for 2025 that we can order for the standards)!!
Large majority of people owning these bikes are not rich. They figure out a way to get it if they want it bad enough. Harley Davidson's always been expensive. I haven't found anything in our world That is not too expensive.
Thinking same thing, Traded in my 22 ultra on Black Friday and working on turning my 24 into the ultra comforts now, and the see this video .. ugh 😑 no turning back now 😢
@RidingintheOzarks I love the looks of the chopped tour pack as well, but I ride two up with full-face helmets and cardo's so I need that king pack. But 100% love the chopped !
Doubtful; Not having a RG Ultra would be a mistake. And get a proper touring front fender. My confidence level in the MoCo is low trending to very low.
I think they should just go to the packages. If you have the money for an Ultra, you have the money to do it as a package. They should be focusing on making HD more accessible in general with their sport and cruiser categories.
How would that benefit Harley. There are dozens of aftermarket retailers for Harley parts and accessories, and they are in some cases cheaper. Harley packaging out their motorcycle is the WORST way to go for the company!
Harley has screwed up their pricing big time! The Nightster should be $9,999 and there should be a "non-S" slightly detuned cruiser version of the Sportster that comes in around $13,000 or so. That would leave room to price the Sportster S around $15,000. Having the Softail Standard priced at $15k is an insult. The Standard should be $13,500 and the Street Bob should be $15,999. The Low Rider S at $20k is wild, when people are usually getting barely used Glides at that price range. It should be $17,999. Makes total sense to have the Breakout and Fatboy priced right at $20k. Have the other models between $20k-$23k so that way the Glides can be priced at $25k. Having so many models offering above $25k is ridiculous in todays economy
This is the bike I've been waiting for since my 2019 ultra limited was totaled last fall. I don't think they'll put traditional passing lamps on it based on the current fairing design. Maybe some auxiliary lights built into the lowers. Just speculating. Merry Christmas
Holy shnikes! I would never have guessed this was going to happen. Just hoping we get an RG Ultra. Cause this year I’m pulling the trigger on a new ride.
Big Auto and motorcycle hurt by all the inflation, debt, and high interest rates. Big 3 expecting bailout but government also too overextended. Bailouts cause more inflation. 46 billion to Silicon Valley bank. 5 billion to delta 2019.
How Funny! When I first saw the title of this video i overlooked the “New 2025” and I thought your new bike was leaking. My heart sank as I said to myself “Oh no! No way!! Are you serious?” Then I watched after I washed my underwear. 😊
I put Kromewerks 4.5 HP’s with the performance inserts on mine. I liked the thought of being able to quiet it down some with the inserts they have for them and according to their techs the new M8’s like the back pressure and the inserts help match the stock tune so you don’t loose the torque that happens when just adding slip ons. I’m in California so I can’t even do a stage one because I can’t change the tuner. B.S. Without the inserts I noticed a loss of bottom end torque and horsepower. Tabs are nice but just too loud for me on long distance runs but they do sound awesome for sure. Did you notice any change in performance? Good or bad or noticeable?
As I stated before, I doubted the Ultra would not return. Since HD is streamlining models, there may just be only one Ultra in SG version. Since they offered Limited in SG and RG version in past couple of years, they probably only want to bring back one version, the best seller of course, so looks like it will be the SG Ultra Limited. Not to say a RG Ultra won’t follow in 2026. Or maybe, RG Ultra SVO in 2025. Who knows.
I would hate to be a Harley-Davidson dealership these last three months waiting for another “big reveal” marketing scam. If I was in the market for a bike there is no way I would buy a year end model until the new model release especially when you’re spending over $30K+. If I liked a 2025, the dealership would a have a deposit and know they have new one that are going to sell, if I didn’t a 2024 would be in my garage now. No other car or motorcycle manufacturer does these type of next year model release marketing. Sorry, the excitement is gone Harley Davidson, just release the models early so we can choose what to buy now.
My guess is the RG ultra remains unchanged, if it even makes a return. I'm sure it was a low volume model in the ultra line anyway. One would think they would be reviving the Road King. It's so over priced.
Coming from someone who trade their 18 CVO for a 24 CVO last year and it being my 12th Harley I’ve ever owned I hugely regret it, the new SG’s and RG’s are aerodynamic garbage Cut 2 inches out of the bottom of your vehicles windshield and see what happens when you drive around Zero protection to the rider now I recommend don’t buy them until they can make significant changes to the aerodynamic of the bike
I never cared what Harley was coming out with. I bought bikes when I were ready to buy one. I always ended up with last years models before the big changes . I think Harley being secret hurts them in the long run. At least give teases to people to get them hyped. If they did replace the snorkel breather with a current factory one it’s to cut cost for one. 2, most people hate the snorkel because it gets in their way when riding. Their Knees end up hitting it. 3, the snorkel is falling out of popularity and being replaced with round or oval intakes. I can’t wait to get rid of my snorkel that came standard with my ST.
Wow! So excited about the ultra now being available in 2024 touring format. I think it's great that the ultra is offered in the 2024 touring format but being 'excited' about it. I would be excited if we truly had a 'new' model that had the motorcycle world talking and sold like hotcakes because it was a bike that looked, smelled and tasted like a HD with the goodies folks want as stock, at an affordable and competitive price point, instead an updated old model at a price outside of ordinary peoples reach or they simply are not interested in a big fat heavy bike. It's not rocket science why many dealers are overstocked with bikes.
This is painfully boring 😩. The whole Softtail line up need a Lowrider S upgrade treatment. HD should put double front disc , cruise control and traction control in all of them. 😮💨
Im excited to see what the Trump era EPA will do to enable manufacturers and after market tuners to create. I know the people installed during the Biden admin where aggressively trying to end tuning packs and pressuring makers to develop electric instead of ICE.
I don't think it's an ultra why would they put a polished rotor on a ultra especially non cvo also rotor doesnt fit anything else except the flhxu novway they would come out with new front end or wheels just for an ultra
Frankly, these never ending bigger and bigger engines are ridiculous. No one needs and no one can even use all that power on the street. My FXRS with the 81.6ci Evo and an EV13 cam has all the power I could ever want.
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Do you think there will be a NEW ROADGLIDE LIMITED/ULTRA also to match the new STREET GLIDE ULTRA?
Nobody wants bloated Harley couches on wheels that cost 50 grand. I say that and I own a Harley!
I agree I have a 650 lbs cruiser and as I get older I want something a little lighter and nimble, I can't believe Harley can't make a 600 lbs bike with the 107 engine
Nobody? That's all anyone buys nowadays!
Nobody huh? Large brush. Sorry ya can't afford one but there are folks that want a full, HD touring bike and not a hobbled together Advanblack franken bike.... bruh
@@Irish_FLTRUI totally agree with you. The Ultra is the way to go.
I agree! They say they need new customers and yet every bike is a fortune. Who cares about the RG LTD when sales are already down 15%. It seems to me someone is trying to kill HD😡
Harley and Leaked in the same sentence is so natural.
It saddens me but I thought the exact same thing.
Bring back the Road King Classic ( the special is ugly ) and the Electra Glide Classic. All limited models should have a turbo or supercharger from the factory. Get rid of all the electrical crap. We don’t need traction control or navigation or ride modes. We want motorcycles, not gaming centers.
Sounds like you are talking about an Indian Springfield. 😊
Hoping for a new 117 Road King.
Merry Christmas
Me too
Me and you both on the 117 RKS. I just don’t know how I could part with my Snake Venom RKS. Maybe if HD come out with a 117 RKS in Snake Venom…oh yeah!
@ Or ….
You can have BOTH 😅
Been a while since they came out w/CVO model too!
@ Amen to that, but I believe if there is a new CVO this year it would be the LowriderST CVO
The Ultra has never been based on a Street Glide. It and the SG has always been based on the Electra Glide.
Splitting hairs to me but ok, the street glide, Electra glide, ultra are all touring models with the bat wing. I owned a 1990 ultra before my 2016 SG.
🎄MERRY CHRISTMAS☃ Y'ALL! Mike, thanks again for all the great informative vids!
Jochen the Destroyer's new model is called the FU, of course made in Thailand.
If they're keeping the ultra around I would assume they're gonna do a RG ultra just because of the popularity of the road glide the last few years.
I want something light and packed with features like the Nightster Special except "re-imagined" and made much better looking. I don't wanna hear anything about 800+lb baggers. I will never want to wrangle 800 lbs. Cmon lets get a more traditional Sportster but with the benefits of the Nightster Special like weight savings, increased power and a ton of features + tech. At least give us a better exhaust on that Nightster, clean up the left side and rid all the plastic.
Or by an Indian Scout 60 that just came out. A much nicer looking motorcycle.
Hey Man Mountain Mike, this is what I love about this channel, you are on top of what is happening at HDMC corporate. Looking forward to seeing what you have done to your SG.
Y’all peace out and have a Merry Christmas
Appreciate the support! Merry Christmas to you guys!
Love your channel. Even though I’m not in the market, still lookin forward to try Jan ‘25 new bike intros from Harley.
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄
Same to you!
Be cool to have the Ultra in ST with a 121 with Heated Grips, Hard Lowers, and Lighted Tour Pack! Crossed fingers. Thanks for the insight! Great video. 2024’s are all over the dealerships none of them appealed to the real tourer. Me lol
I hope you get what you want!
I just bought a 2024 Streetglide. I definitely prefer the Limited and pulled the trigger because I was told that the Limited was definitely discontinued for 2025.
I did the same. Figured no full dresser so I pulled the trigger on what I felt was a good deal on a 24. May or May not be upset. Will have to wait and see.
start a file for the recalls
A lot of every model still left around on showroom floors.
I have to admit this is the first time I’ve been highly concerned about The Motor Company in a very long time. They are lost and their woke ceo has made so many bad decisions it’s almost like he’s trying to ruin the company. So many dealers are closing and the ones that remain are packed with 2024s. A price increase is a non-starter too. The limited decision would be good - they would have lost millions with the stupid package idea. People could have gotten it after market way cheaper. Plus it’s more than just a tour pack- lowers, windshield, suspension.
The new gen has 13 in shocks like the limiteds did.
No one is buying ultras anymore. It’s better to do a cart system and add what you want to the bike.
@ except that’s not true at all.
Sadly, it's the MoCo that is closing the dealers, even though they are still profitable. The tennis shoe CEO has no clue.
Looking forward to seeing what they do with the crash bar and lowers. Would LOVE some lowers on my '24 RG (hopefully they will be available in the OEM parts section for 2025 that we can order for the standards)!!
Yeah I ran Lowers for speakers on my 2016 eventually, not sure I will do them on my 2024 yet, guess it will depend on looks and cost...
Thank you very interesting
Oh boy another 40,000 motorcycle hope all the rich boys have fun with that
I’m not rich just financially irresponsible and I paid a LOT less than that, MSRP was 28k on mine!
Amen, it’s all about having skill, getting and keeping a job and financial priorities. I ain’t rich and I have one.
Large majority of people owning these bikes are not rich. They figure out a way to get it if they want it bad enough.
Harley Davidson's always been expensive.
I haven't found anything in our world That is not too expensive.
I’m not rich, just financially irresponsible. I can’t take it with me. Taking all my memories. I refuse to die with just dreams.
@@kerrymcclure7503 I work a full time job and have multiple other side incomes. If you want it bad enough you find a way.
Can you comment on the size of your Klock Werks windshield??
It’s the new 10, I just installed it and will be trying it out this weekend.
@@RidingintheOzarks It makes a huge difference! You will notice and love it!!
Merry Christmas to you both
@@87ricer merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to you Mike
Merry Christmas!
I literally pick up my 24 Street glide friday.. Saw this video and thought Dammit Mike don't do this to me 😂
Love your content!
You are gonna love it! Thanks for watching!
Thinking same thing, Traded in my 22 ultra on Black Friday and working on turning my 24 into the ultra comforts now, and the see this video .. ugh 😑 no turning back now 😢
@freshcleanshave3569 yep ordered the long haul package for mine as well. Once you have a tour pack it's hard to go without it !
@@gregmannos I like having a chopped pack.
@RidingintheOzarks I love the looks of the chopped tour pack as well, but I ride two up with full-face helmets and cardo's so I need that king pack. But 100% love the chopped !
Doubtful; Not having a RG Ultra would be a mistake. And get a proper touring front fender. My confidence level in the MoCo is low trending to very low.
How about 16" tires and wheels front and back? Cruiser tires and fenders on the front look stupid.
Merry Christmas to you brother 🏴👌
Merry Christmas!
Is there any rumors on fairing updates for the 2025 RG3 or Triglide ?
Hoping for a street/hooligan package 975 Pan Am with 17" wheels. Heck, they should do it for the 1250 too.
I think they should just go to the packages. If you have the money for an Ultra, you have the money to do it as a package. They should be focusing on making HD more accessible in general with their sport and cruiser categories.
How would that benefit Harley. There are dozens of aftermarket retailers for Harley parts and accessories, and they are in some cases cheaper. Harley packaging out their motorcycle is the WORST way to go for the company!
MERRY Christmas Mike And Family!
Thank you and Merry Christmas to you and your family as well!
🛑🛑 Merry Christmas, Mike!! 🎄🎁
Merry Christmas!
Harley has screwed up their pricing big time! The Nightster should be $9,999 and there should be a "non-S" slightly detuned cruiser version of the Sportster that comes in around $13,000 or so. That would leave room to price the Sportster S around $15,000. Having the Softail Standard priced at $15k is an insult. The Standard should be $13,500 and the Street Bob should be $15,999. The Low Rider S at $20k is wild, when people are usually getting barely used Glides at that price range. It should be $17,999. Makes total sense to have the Breakout and Fatboy priced right at $20k. Have the other models between $20k-$23k so that way the Glides can be priced at $25k.
Having so many models offering above $25k is ridiculous in todays economy
You could get an Indian Scout 60 bobber for $9,999. And it is manufactured in the USA on top of that.
This is the bike I've been waiting for since my 2019 ultra limited was totaled last fall. I don't think they'll put traditional passing lamps on it based on the current fairing design. Maybe some auxiliary lights built into the lowers. Just speculating. Merry Christmas
It Seems as Leaking is still Normal For Harley Operation just info instead of Oil in the Earlier years....Great Video
If there is going to be a price increase hopefully it’s because they change the 117 to the 121 on the Road Glide
Yes. A minimum of 2k on MSRP is forecasted. Has nothing to do with upgrades. Has everything to do with new tariffs on imports / exports.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
Holy shnikes! I would never have guessed this was going to happen. Just hoping we get an RG Ultra. Cause this year I’m pulling the trigger on a new ride.
I am sure they will have something for you! Hope they make exactly what you want.
Big Auto and motorcycle hurt by all the inflation, debt, and high interest rates. Big 3 expecting bailout but government also too overextended. Bailouts cause more inflation. 46 billion to Silicon Valley bank. 5 billion to delta 2019.
Thanks for the update, I hope you are correct on this info. 👍
Me too!
If that is the new tour pack? I’m here for it.
We will see soon!
Wow, it looks like you're really going to town with the accessories for your new bike,but thanks for the information 😀
I have been lucky to have some brands agree to help me and some stuff I got on Black Friday sales!
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas!
I hope they come out with the Road glide ultra also
2025 touring models come with a brand new msrp price hike of a minimum of 2k.
I have heard that too. I talked about it in a previous video.
I’m waiting for a Limited with the new screen!
Will the Center Cooling work if they use the big Ultra front fender? Lowers will be effected also, this is going to be interesting. 🤔
I think it would but I would just go to wrapper style if I was them!
How Funny! When I first saw the title of this video i overlooked the “New 2025” and I thought your new bike was leaking. My heart sank as I said to myself “Oh no! No way!! Are you serious?” Then I watched after I washed my underwear. 😊
Oh I’m sorry for the scare but don’t fret the 2024 is fine so far and the new Tabs I just installed sound awesome!
I put Kromewerks 4.5 HP’s with the performance inserts on mine. I liked the thought of being able to quiet it down some with the inserts they have for them and according to their techs the new M8’s like the back pressure and the inserts help match the stock tune so you don’t loose the torque that happens when just adding slip ons. I’m in California so I can’t even do a stage one because I can’t change the tuner. B.S. Without the inserts I noticed a loss of bottom end torque and horsepower. Tabs are nice but just too loud for me on long distance runs but they do sound awesome for sure. Did you notice any change in performance? Good or bad or noticeable?
Love my TAB slip ons
As I stated before, I doubted the Ultra would not return. Since HD is streamlining models, there may just be only one Ultra in SG version. Since they offered Limited in SG and RG version in past couple of years, they probably only want to bring back one version, the best seller of course, so looks like it will be the SG Ultra Limited. Not to say a RG Ultra won’t follow in 2026. Or maybe, RG Ultra SVO in 2025. Who knows.
The bubble design on the tourpak will help facilitate a helmet
You mean turr pack
I owned an Ultra Limited back in 2013 … felt like I was driving a Soccer Mom Van !
That's probably because you didn't know how to properly handle and maneuver the bike. It's okay to take riding classes for a large bike like that.
Hell, if my new 2025 Harley Davidson leaked, I wouldnt be bragging about it....wait, what ? Oh...never mind.
Unless they change the leadership Harley is doomed
2025 is the end without a big haircut and a re-think.
I would hate to be a Harley-Davidson dealership these last three months waiting for another “big reveal” marketing scam. If I was in the market for a bike there is no way I would buy a year end model until the new model release especially when you’re spending over $30K+. If I liked a 2025, the dealership would a have a deposit and know they have new one that are going to sell, if I didn’t a 2024 would be in my garage now.
No other car or motorcycle manufacturer does these type of next year model release marketing. Sorry, the excitement is gone Harley Davidson, just release the models early so we can choose what to buy now.
My guess is the RG ultra remains unchanged, if it even makes a return. I'm sure it was a low volume model in the ultra line anyway. One would think they would be reviving the Road King. It's so over priced.
I hope the Road King is revived!
New Fairing I'm guessing nice
Queria ver uma HD FX 2025
The new Harley “leaked?” Pity. I thought they had that stuff fixed.
Nothing about the title new 2025 models leak, no new models showing.
The tour pack should have the speakers up higher. The ole ladies bottom covers the sound..
Breakout Springer maybe?
I have been told ABS is an issue with a Springer. I doubt we will ever see a factory springer again from HD 😢
Coming from someone who trade their 18 CVO for a 24 CVO last year and it being my 12th Harley I’ve ever owned
I hugely regret it, the new SG’s and RG’s are aerodynamic garbage
Cut 2 inches out of the bottom of your vehicles windshield and see what happens when you drive around
Zero protection to the rider now
I recommend don’t buy them until they can make significant changes to the aerodynamic of the bike
Waiting on Road Glide CVO Limited
why
Bloated, gaudy, overpriced, out of touch.
over-teched, under tested.
I never cared what Harley was coming out with. I bought bikes when I were ready to buy one. I always ended up with last years models before the big changes . I think Harley being secret hurts them in the long run. At least give teases to people to get them hyped. If they did replace the snorkel breather with a current factory one it’s to cut cost for one. 2, most people hate the snorkel because it gets in their way when riding. Their Knees end up hitting it. 3, the snorkel is falling out of popularity and being replaced with round or oval intakes. I can’t wait to get rid of my snorkel that came standard with my ST.
They usually do a teaser video when they announce the launch that just hasn’t happened yet this year.
Wow! So excited about the ultra now being available in 2024 touring format. I think it's great that the ultra is offered in the 2024 touring format but being 'excited' about it. I would be excited if we truly had a 'new' model that had the motorcycle world talking and sold like hotcakes because it was a bike that looked, smelled and tasted like a HD with the goodies folks want as stock, at an affordable and competitive price point, instead an updated old model at a price outside of ordinary peoples reach or they simply are not interested in a big fat heavy bike. It's not rocket science why many dealers are overstocked with bikes.
Harley has never sold cheap, entry-level bikes. Keep dreaming. Oh, and get a better job so you can afford one.
Hopefully that 117 road king so people can trade in their old ones and I can grab those older ones for a deal 😂
Nice plan!
This is painfully boring 😩.
The whole Softtail line up need a Lowrider S upgrade treatment. HD should put double front disc , cruise control and traction control in all of them. 😮💨
Im excited to see what the Trump era EPA will do to enable manufacturers and after market tuners to create. I know the people installed during the Biden admin where aggressively trying to end tuning packs and pressuring makers to develop electric instead of ICE.
I sure hope he cleans the EPA’s house. The tuning thing is a big deal!
Great video
My opinion you always do the homework on new models
@@robertperry5272 thanks!
I don't think it's an ultra why would they put a polished rotor on a ultra especially non cvo also rotor doesnt fit anything else except the flhxu novway they would come out with new front end or wheels just for an ultra
The part isn’t necessarily for that bike but they list it for fitment meaning it could fit it.
Lets just hope they step up their game on paint...so tired of lame paint from HD.
I love my White Onyx !
@@RidingintheOzarksMe too! Especially under sunlight!!
Yeah! Where's the shocking pink and romantic rose for the more tender bikers?
Exciting paint will come with a price. Harley-Davidson found another piggy bank charging extra for black.
HD was known for their paint quality. What, now that went away also?
One dealer told me Harley is going to put the 121 in a softail platform. I hope he's right.
Wow that would be something!
Frankly, these never ending bigger and bigger engines are ridiculous. No one needs and no one can even use all that power on the street. My FXRS with the 81.6ci Evo and an EV13 cam has all the power I could ever want.
@@mrpoizun This just in: Chokin Jochen will add another 9 engine variants to the existing 43 engine line up built since 1999.
Same old B.S everybodyglides.
Street Glides are way overpriced at the dealerships. Let the dealers keep their woke bikes and see how they pay the bills
Thank you. So much BS is generated by AI having a person talk about stuff makes its a bit more believable. exciting news!
Thanks for watching!! I hate these AI channels
harle rather
Yeah, more geezer glides. Snore
Your always wrong
Lol....
Other than the US nobody like the look of a Road Glide.
I ride Evos and non-Harleys. This here stuff doesn't matter one bit.
EVO: The last of the real ones.
🤮
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you too!
Merry Christmas
@@robertperry5272 merry Christmas