William Shatner is a far better actor than some people give him credit for. He knows how to ham it up, and he knows how to be dead serious. One thing his acting is not, is boring! 🖖
My favorite scene of him hamming it up is from his well known appearance in The Twilight Zone episode “nightmare at 20,000 ft. At the end, when he’s strapped to a bed and wheeled off the plane to head towards an insane hospital, his wife assures him it’ll be ok. He sits up, looks at the camera, smiles, and says, “ I know, but I’m the only one who does know, right now” then lays back down. Of course, they show the badly mangled plane engine.
Shatner gets a lot of crap for overacting on this series, of which granted there are many examples. However, there are also other examples of some excellent performances by Shatner in this series. He really is a great actor, even if some of his choices are questionable.
@@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft well, my ex girlfriend paid for some VIP tickets to a Star Trek convention which let her meet a lot of Trek stars, including Shatner, and he was just an _absolute_ veruul to her. Plus I know a Trek actor and in one conversation he confirmed that Shatner is just _the worst._ Between my ex (who's still like family to me) and that actor, I feel comfortable that my impression of Shatner is well sourced and verified, and what those two have told me lines up very well with the public descriptions of the man from so many of his Trek costars. That is how I know it for a fact. Great question though, always be sceptical of things you hear online. Live long and prosper! 🖖😊
People, this was the 1960's, it was revolutionary at the time to portray an African-American as a superior officer over a white officer. So modern for it's time. Star Trek lead the way.
@@tamaspacso9899 Horribly, badly and in a poor show. Star Trek was GOOD. STD is a disgrace. Nothing done there means anything. Because nobody is watching.
What I love about this scene is that these are two dedicated hard core professional men acting like men. They both believe in what they are saying and neither will back down.
You...are praising them for yelling and staring each other down? Hm. Uh, well, I can't really tell which one is more wrong. Forgive me if I disagree that it wasn't whichever one could roar the loudest. Seems kinda backward and grotesque for a confrontation taking place in a civilized future. At the same time, it doesn't surprise me that anyone would romanticize this...wrongly...
You are correct. This is from the experience of 1940s military men in peacetime. They can have a heated argument but not hold a lifetime backstabbing grudge. They get on with their jobs and when one is proven right there may be a Sorry Jim, or they may not ever mention it at all. Finney was contrasted as mentally ill. He got in trouble once and let it fester into a lifelong grudge that was eventually going to ruin Kirk and even kill others as need be. The same mental illness in Khan.
It really bears pointing out that Stone refused to flinch in the face of Kirk's typical bluster. He knows his history, knows how decorated he is, and refuses to stand down simply because of who Kirk is. Percy Rodriguez is indomitable here.
Yes. Rodriguez gives a great performance. Both officers are doing what they think is best. As much as I like Kirk, the video does show him to be wrong on the facts at this point in the story.
Pretty sure a Starfleet commodore with starship command experience as stated here has had to face alot more harrowing experiences than William Shatner throwing a tantrum.
Agreed. Rodriguez was great casting. The only issue is that when Kirk stands up in defiance, the director has Rodriguez remain sitting for too long. Stone should have stood immediately too.
@@CaminoAir Not sure I agree. Stone just chillin and keeping cool while Kirk gets all riled up further shows that Stone will not be intimidated or bullied by even a captain of Kirk's standing, and that whether you think he's right or wrong, he's still in charge.
@@mackgiver875 That's a good point I hadn't thought of. My take though would still be that no one would tolerate Kirk's response, without drawing up to their full height (i.e. rank). And there's an unfortunate visual in terms of ethnicity. Again, my opinion and I could be wrong.
I recently started TOS fully expecting to hate it, thinking it would be just a silly sixties goofy show. But Kirk is actually super awesome and a great captain. I finally get why the love for that character has persisted all these years
First time I watched TOS I was surprised by how few redshirts actually get killed, and how pissed Kirk gets when his people die, especially needless deaths.
@@clancyholdopen3781 Someone did a breakdown counting the number of yellow, blue and red shirts on away missions and how many died and what percentages. While a "red shirt" is now a meme or something, it's true that more of them died. Kirk got a good bridge crew and engineer, but needed a top-notch security officer.
"That's as far as you go, sir." Kirk was such a badass. This is why he was my hero growing up. Such a great scene. He wasn't about to back down, even in front of a superior officer. Well acted by both men. Right away in the episode, it really seemed like Stone had it in for him, for some reason .
I don't think he had it in for Kirk, he wanted to protect Starfleet, which is understandable given the evidence at the time. But both men coming from different sides, convinced they are right. Kirk angry but still respecting him with "sir" because he understood that Stone thought he was right also.
Think of this: You're the prosecutor, you have the crime on video and the suspect is claiming that the video, the witnesses, and the physical evidence are wrong. Now add in the trouble of actually liking and respecting the suspect on top of that.....
@@JackPonissi i think protecting starfleet was his primary objective. that the compromise might protect kirk too was a handy bonus. i dont think he wanted to destroy kirk but he would have to attempt it to protect starfleet if kirk didnt compromise
Gene Roddenberry helped us to forget ‘black and white,’ just content of character personified. We are a better species because of him, even if ever so slightly
Unfortunately, modern culture lost sight of racial indifference a long time ago. A modern audience would probably call this scene racist because they dared to have a black guy play a villain opposite a white antagonist.
@@Kyrieru or even a white protagonist -- or maybe there'll be a scream of "reverse racism" by all the chuckleheads who can't emotionally handle a colored person in a position of authority over the white protagonist. Who knows, people suck in general on both sides.
@@Kyrieru The black guy was Kirk's superior officer. Pretty sure the only people complaining are the ones who can't handle a black guy with a higher rank than a white guy.
I love this as an early example of the hypocrisy of the Star Fleet brass. From TNG on the story of a corrupt admiral , etc became common place. But we didn’t see much of that in the original series. This was a great scene showing that Star Fleet still has bureaucratic red tape despite the cheery future. One of Shatner’s best scenes too. “So that’s how we do things now? Sweep it under the rug and me along with it! Not on your life!” Also pretty cool that a black guy was ranked higher than Kirk, that was probably a big deal at the time. As an aside, I always wondered why they got rid of the rank of commodore after TOS. Cheers all 🍻🖖🏼
I imagine the hypocrisy of Star Fleet brass is why Kirk is so depressed in Star Trek II and nervous when he's on the Enterprise. He does NOT want to be like the stereotype of brass being hypocritical, corrupt, bureaucratic, overbearing, etc.
Nick Colbert same reason the U.S. Navy did. Commodores had the responsibilities and duties of an Admiral, so they made them Rear Admiral Lower Half and Upper Half.
This is one of my personal favorite episodes and one that's WAY underrated. No alien battle, no explosions or exploring alien worlds. Star Trek can be Star Trek with a court case lol
"It's in the transcript, and computer transcripts don't lie!!" This episode is so important as Samuel Cogley's warnings about human rights being reduced to the level of machines is becoming the norm now.
Indeed. I was denied access to my card account despite verifying DOB, SSN, card number, and name. Why? Because I couldn't recall the answer to the "secret question". Is that frigging nuts or what? Retina scans are not far behind....
Cogley also warned that the rights of machines would be elevated above ours. Experts predict that Artificial Intelligence will become self aware within ten years. When that day dawns it will be our last day, because logically, we are a waste of resources, consuming too much and returning next to nothing.
Loved this episode, shows you how a true starship Captain reacts under pressure while in command of his ship, which, throughout the whole series, Captain Kirk there love is his ship, his crew and his career over anything else out there and proves that he is and always has been the very BEST starship Captain out there.
Such a great scene. Tautly written, directed and acted. I watched this episode a couple of weeks ago and it still holds up as gripping drama after all these years. Kudos to Roddenberry and his team for making such a great show.
Overall I'm way more a of a TNG guy as its what I grew up with, but there's a few episodes of TOS which the cheesiness of the time its made just fade away in the face of how well written it is. Remember the first episode of TOS i watched fully was 'the enterprise incident' was like 18 and at a mates and we put on that silly space show from the 60's so we could laugh at how bad it was. After like 15 minutes we were just glued to the screen in silence utterly absorbed in it!
Star Trek back then was awesome. It really felt like the future with no need to label people and I never thought what race people were when I watched it. The only thing was McCoy and his Green Blooded Vulcan statements seemed a bit racist but at least he never said that black skinned security officer.
@@dbloyd2 Although Spock got on McCoy's nerves a lot, McCoy knew that Spock was right 9/10. He even once said that Spock was the best first officer in the fleet.
Can't do that these days without the so-called alt-right making videos calling it crap SJW bullshit brought about by globalist Hollywood liberal elites. **Sigh** How the world has changed.
One of my favorite episodes. Commodore Stone is an awesome character and gives the command structure of the fictional Starfleet a sense of realism and depth in that these officers seem like actual no nonsense tough as nails experienced commanders with true command authority going through a court-marshal. No hokeyness like you see in the newer series, although TNG did a good job in some episodes. I remember seeing this as a kid and thought nothing of the races of the two characters. Same with the famous kiss scene. Star Trek showed what the human race, if united, could accomplish. Except for getting rid of Yeoman Rand, Roddenberry had a gift of picking good actors for this series and it shows in the final product.
Well, about the races. Normal 97,5% of people are just like you. You barely even register their different colors. In context of the show, you notice they are humans, men, military rank and then their dialogue. And thats how it should be. But in todays world of sick SJW and Wokenes, it will be made damn sure and clear that you will notice their color, sexusl orientation, religion, parents and what else. None of those matter of course to you, but The Message must ne delivered!
I am really impressed with Jim’s ballsiness here. Keeping one’s cool in the face of an accusation and demanding to have justice seen through rather than save face by sweeping it under the rug. I have had self doubt many times in my life and I wish I could be unerringly confident in myself as Kirk is.
IRL that was a lot of what really got Sobel reassigned. Winters was very popular with the NCOs and men because of his competence and fairness, and Sobel resented it - Winters insisted he never tried to make it a popularity contest between him and Sobel, but Sobel insisted on bringing him up on trumped-up charges to bring him down a peg. After Sobel was transferred out the charges were quietly dropped. I don't think the series mentioned what became of the charges.
Loved this episode, of course loved ALL of the Original Star Trek Series episodes. In this episode, you will see a starship Captain who took protective decisions used to save his ship, and his crew that ment MORE to him than anything else out there. He didn't shirk his duties, he did what his experience and training lead him to do in a crisis situation. Face it folks, actor William Shatner brought the tole of Captain James T. Kirk alive, and face it he did do an unbelievable excellent job of taking the Original Star Trek Series to greater heights that still exist to this day in 2018. When on the stand he was as cool as a cucumber, and explained his movements and judgements with perfect rationality. The Original Star Trek Series will always easily outshine forever more as a much better Star Trek than that next generation stuff.
There are a few crummy episodes, but the original series was dope. I just watched it for the first time a couple months ago. I grew up with TNG, and I love both, but Kirk was such a bad ass.
@@SuStel I didn't like those episodes either. I've watched them quite a few times now and I can see what they're trying to say. My only problem still is Gem in The Empath. She just weirds me out.
"I don't need no stinking computer record. I was on that bridge. I know what happened.. I know what I did.. I will *not* admit to wrong doing when I've done ne wrong." Kirk was a man of principles. He would *never* take the easy way out. Doing the right thing is hard? Sure is, but it's worth every bit of effort you expend to see that that the right thing is done.
The commodore was played by a Canadian, Percy Rodriguez. He was born in Montreal and has black and Portuguese ancestry. He was a professional boxer in his youth and then turned to acting. He shunned stereotypical roles and opted for roles that projected intelligence and authority.
Please understand that any Black people watching this in 1966 were eating it up. Roddenberry said tolerance isn’t good enough such that people would enjoy differences, not hate them. Like everyone in his gleaming future believes Black is beautiful which was a popular phrase that came out soon after Star Trek’s first season. So race did matter, in a cool way.
This show is so good. You just don't see acting like this today. It's seriously so easy to get sucked into each episode. Nothing like it for its time, and nothing like it to this day. Favorite show of all time. I'm only 23, but I've never had a show draw me in so much in my life. Even the silly episodes (Spocks Brain, Tribble Trouble, etc.) Are fun to watch.
Older shows have far better acting, plots, even music. They also had tremendous character, and were original. Today, they reboot everything, and make inferior copies. Today there's no imagination, thinking outside the box, or creativity. Everything is shallow, with millions of action scenes and no plot or storyline worth following.
"Computer transcripts don't lie." That line probably didn't provoke the same howls of laughter it would today, when most people are painfully familiar with exactly how infallible computers are and the practical effects of the GIGO principle.
I really admire scenes like this. Just tense 'boardroom' talk. No action. Simply, two officers staring one another down, pulling rank, spouting protocol.
I just want to say that seeing a person of color who is in charge didn't even phase me. I thought it was normal. Only reading the comments made me realize that yes, in the 1960's it was very, very rare.
The fact it comes across as normal is part of the strength of how this was shot: Stone is a commodore and the fact that he also is black is totally irrelevant to the story, they could have cast an actor of any ethnicity to play him. Because of this it’s shown that racial conflict is no longer an issue in the future.
@@michaelkeha That's the frustration: to see people thinking this way, instead of thinking "Why are the media trying to make me think like that?" The media by its very existence is able to, metaphorically speaking, exaggerate its troop size by putting helmets atop broomsticks. All this and advertisements, too! I'll pass..
Unlike the admirals of tng onward, Stone seems pretty straight up. Trying to defend the service and get kirk, a well decorated captain, off easy, even though he knows it's very low ball to do. But did things the right way. Unlike for example admiral pressman, or admiral Ross with section 31
He was trying to be Kirk's friend. He was going to give him a way out where he didn't have to be totally disgraced, otherwise he wouldn't have become a pariah. Stone was actually a stand up guy, just trying to keep a legend from becoming a laughing stock and a cautionary tale.
@@tbirdguy1 He tried to do the right thing, he knew kirk and didn´t believe it was malice, irresponsibility but the kirk was worn out by command responsibility so he offered him the Retire and we don´t need a court martial, maybe he was even there himself, It was IIRC usually so in the british royal navy in Nelson´s time to let officer choose between retirement and court matial
@@jkeelsnc Admiral Leyton was the guy who sabotaged Earth in DS9. As unlikeable as Nechayev was, her actress always tried to play her as someone who had strong principles and stuck to them, no matter how unlikeable it made her. Kind of the opposite side of the scale. And we do get some reasonably good folk, like Ross in DS9 (his brief co-operation with S31 aside), and Admiral Paris in Voyager. So it's not ALL bad. It's quite possible that the source of much of the corruption is the influence of Section 31 operatives, acting as a secret society and influencing officers behind the scenes. It's been suggested Pressman was doing S31's work when it came to the phased cloaking device.
@@jkeelsnc DS9 had a lot of 'Save the Federation, at the cost of becoming the Dominion' stories. Leyton was one of those. Subvert the civilian authority, so Starfleet could save the galaxy. At least, in his eyes. Up until then, Sisko gives the impression that Leyton had been a good man. Another good one - Admiral Henry, who shows up to Picard's 'Drumhead' hearing and walks out in disgust.
Stone - "Computer transcripts don't lie." RUclips auto CC - "Cum trash skits won't rye." (Note, this video doesn't have CCs, just pointing out that computers can be wrong on the simplest things.
KIRK: "To prove that computer transcripts don't lie, I call to the stand RUclips's Automatic Closed Captioning AI." BAILIFF: "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?" AI: "Eye dew."
@@ArmyJames Don't judge so quickly. I wish I could post their Star Trek in-character photos here, because the actors are very similar in overall appearance. Pull up those photos and take a look: both have high, prominent foreheads, high cheekbones, strong chins. Piercing eyes. Very handsome men. Not identical twins, of course but very similar and with powerful personalities.
I was 6 when Star Trek premiered. I never thought of the races of the people. I remember thinking Uhura was such a beautiful lady. Nobody mentioned her race. Nobody cared. The show was ahead of it's time, to be sure.
It was noted. The kiss was a big deal when it happened. Plus naming her Uhuru (Swahili for freedom) was also incredibly topical given decolonization in East Africa.
Ohh don't go thinking that Roddenberry era directors didn't abuse whatever they could. There are SO many episodes full of practical special effects with the music going DUN-DUN DUN DUN!
This episode shows the triumph of integrity against the quasi military institution’s tendency to cover up bad incidents. Regrettably it is not this way in our time, nor is it likely to be in 350 years. I have known military and civil servants who had their careers ruined by higher ups who pre-decided they would be forced out, no matter what the facts showed.
@@jmann6130 Stone was actually a Commodore who knew his $#!t. He treated Kirk like a professional while still putting the spurs to him for possible negligence
This scene is so engaging, the presence of these two characters is massive and the silence for the first minute really makes you focus on just what they are saying.
In the second pilot “Where No Man Has Gone Before”, the mutating Gary Mitchell created a tombstone for Kirk reading “James R Kirk”. Kirk’s middle name of “Tiberius” didn’t become canon until (I think) Season 2. One could retcon the erroneous “R” middle initial into an indication that Mitchell wasn’t quite as all-powerful as he thought himself to be, if he couldn’t remember his one-time best friend’s middle initial.
@@Mikey300 If I'm not mistaking, the name Tiberius was first mentioned in one the episodes from Star Trek: The Animated Series. Up to that point, I think that it was just James T Kirk.
@@justafanofnerdculture7602 Upon further reflection, I do believe that you are correct. Kirk received the “T” middle initial sometime during The Original Series, but what it stood for may not have been identified until The Animated Series. At least they didn’t name him “James Caligula Kirk”, if they were going to use the name of a Roman Emperor for Kirk’s middle name.
@@Mikey300 interesting. I am a Star Trek, and especially Kirk, fan...but I did not know that detail. Once, I was "accused" of being a "Trekkie". I said, "Hey, I don't know anything more about James Tiberius Kirk than the next guy!" Everyone got a laugh out that.
@@Mikey300 Another interesting thing that involves the animated series, is that during one of the episodes, for the first and only time, the phrase "Beam me up, Scotty" was actually used.
"Don't let them do anything to take you off the bridge of that ship, because while your there, you can make a difference." Kirk to picard in Generations.
"It doesn't punch you in the face with being progressive" It doesn't punch you in the face if you're from 2021. But if you're from 1967, you damn well better believe that a whole lot of white people felt punched in the face by this scene.
@@waltonsimons12 That's what all these people who claim that shows like Discovery "shove it down our throats" now are missing. Back in the day, such people would be screaming for blood if the internet existed, and they'd just watched this TOS episode. It would have really given us some perspective, which we sorely need today.
Loved the scene where they were reading off his commendations because his lawyer wanted it for the record. Reminds me of when they had to read off Data's record in "Measure Of A Man" in TNG
The main thrust I got from this episode is about man's over reliance on technology. Everyone believed the computer to be infallible, even Kirk's attorney, and nobody raised the possibility that the records might have been tampered with , until Spock decided to test the memory banks.
And then later they trust a computer to run the Enterprise, and it cost Starfleet a ship and a lot of lives. I'd like to think Starfleet learned from that, too, but then they fall in the other pit much later and blindly assume only androids are to blame for the destruction of Utopia Planitia Shipyards.
we are seeing that in many things in our every day lives now like cars for example. a computer on wheels. Everything is run by a computer or a processor even mundane things like turn signals and windshield wipers. It's all good until there becomes a glitch in the matrix. then the car is doomed.
Great scene. "Draw it? I demand it! And right now Commodore Stone, Right now! " This is why I love Captain Kirk! He wasn't afraid. He knew he did the right thing at that moment. He had a moment of doubt later for a brief brief time but He knew He did the proper steps at the proper time.
@@Zerox5861 Happened to Picard and look what happened to him. Disgraced and booted out. He didn't take good advice when it was given to him, "Do nothing that takes you off of the bridge of that ship. Because when you are there...you make a difference."
@Wingate at Ulster Kirk to Picard in Generations: "Captain of the Enterprise? Close to retirement?" Picard :"Well, I hadn't planned on it" Kirk:"Well don't. Don't let them promote you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there, you can make a difference. " Sums up Kirk's attitude
You mean how he whines after his first court martial in Star Trek 09 after cheating the Kobayashi Maru? Huh, don’t remember that happening… Oh yeah, it didn’t. He manned up, gave his reasons, and when questioned on his beliefs and actions, he stood for them, defending every point Spock made.
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William Shatner is a far better actor than some people give him credit for. He knows how to ham it up, and he knows how to be dead serious. One thing his acting is not, is boring! 🖖
My favorite scene of him hamming it up is from his well known appearance in The Twilight Zone episode “nightmare at 20,000 ft. At the end, when he’s strapped to a bed and wheeled off the plane to head towards an insane hospital, his wife assures him it’ll be ok. He sits up, looks at the camera, smiles, and says, “ I know, but I’m the only one who does know, right now” then lays back down. Of course, they show the badly mangled plane engine.
I agree. I don't like him as a person and do think he overacts at times but I do agree.
Totally agree!!!
Was just thinking that.
@@jackp9122 "There's a Man on the WING!!!!" ...
.. LOL! Great Scene..
and you've got a great memory! 👍🏽
One of Kirk's coolest moments. "Draw it? I demand it! And right now, Commodore Stone. Right now!"
Shatner gets a lot of crap for overacting on this series, of which granted there are many examples. However, there are also other examples of some excellent performances by Shatner in this series. He really is a great actor, even if some of his choices are questionable.
@@akaJughead oh yeah, he's a talented man. Also a _massive_ jerk.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Yeah, unlike so many of us 🤣
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated And just HOW do you know that for a fact?
@@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft well, my ex girlfriend paid for some VIP tickets to a Star Trek convention which let her meet a lot of Trek stars, including Shatner, and he was just an _absolute_ veruul to her. Plus I know a Trek actor and in one conversation he confirmed that Shatner is just _the worst._ Between my ex (who's still like family to me) and that actor, I feel comfortable that my impression of Shatner is well sourced and verified, and what those two have told me lines up very well with the public descriptions of the man from so many of his Trek costars. That is how I know it for a fact. Great question though, always be sceptical of things you hear online. Live long and prosper! 🖖😊
If Kirk gets that computer on the stand, he'll talk it into destroying itself.
Either that, or f*ck it.
@@butterw55 well, I mean yeah? Lol
@@butterw55 death by snu snu
Must have learnt it from Michael Burnham. She managed to get one to issue her a ‘get out of jail’ free card on her first attempt.
Weather Brief- “Hal! You. MUST. Obey Me! I am the KIRK. You’llfolloworders imMEDiateLY and: OPEN THE pod (deep breath)... BAY DOORS! I AM KIROCK!!”
People, this was the 1960's, it was revolutionary at the time to portray an African-American as a superior officer over a white officer. So modern for it's time. Star Trek lead the way.
I remember thinking that the first time I watched it. I also thought the actor was very convincing.
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And yet Discovery actors feel like they are ground breakers.
@@xPadge112x : They are, but breaking different grounds, reflecting on different issues.
@@tamaspacso9899 Horribly, badly and in a poor show. Star Trek was GOOD. STD is a disgrace. Nothing done there means anything. Because nobody is watching.
What I love about this scene is that these are two dedicated hard core professional men acting like men. They both believe in what they are saying and neither will back down.
You...are praising them for yelling and staring each other down? Hm. Uh, well, I can't really tell which one is more wrong. Forgive me if I disagree that it wasn't whichever one could roar the loudest. Seems kinda backward and grotesque for a confrontation taking place in a civilized future. At the same time, it doesn't surprise me that anyone would romanticize this...wrongly...
You are correct. This is from the experience of 1940s military men in peacetime. They can have a heated argument but not hold a lifetime backstabbing grudge. They get on with their jobs and when one is proven right there may be a Sorry Jim, or they may not ever mention it at all.
Finney was contrasted as mentally ill. He got in trouble once and let it fester into a lifelong grudge that was eventually going to ruin Kirk and even kill others as need be. The same mental illness in Khan.
@@wj3186 Lower Decks for you I take it.
@@STho205 LOL. Nice one.
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Too much testosterone in this scene for some people.
It really bears pointing out that Stone refused to flinch in the face of Kirk's typical bluster. He knows his history, knows how decorated he is, and refuses to stand down simply because of who Kirk is. Percy Rodriguez is indomitable here.
Yes. Rodriguez gives a great performance. Both officers are doing what they think is best. As much as I like Kirk, the video does show him to be wrong on the facts at this point in the story.
Pretty sure a Starfleet commodore with starship command experience as stated here has had to face alot more harrowing experiences than William Shatner throwing a tantrum.
Agreed. Rodriguez was great casting. The only issue is that when Kirk stands up in defiance, the director has Rodriguez remain sitting for too long. Stone should have stood immediately too.
@@CaminoAir Not sure I agree. Stone just chillin and keeping cool while Kirk gets all riled up further shows that Stone will not be intimidated or bullied by even a captain of Kirk's standing, and that whether you think he's right or wrong, he's still in charge.
@@mackgiver875 That's a good point I hadn't thought of. My take though would still be that no one would tolerate Kirk's response, without drawing up to their full height (i.e. rank). And there's an unfortunate visual in terms of ethnicity. Again, my opinion and I could be wrong.
I recently started TOS fully expecting to hate it, thinking it would be just a silly sixties goofy show. But Kirk is actually super awesome and a great captain. I finally get why the love for that character has persisted all these years
First time I watched TOS I was surprised by how few redshirts actually get killed, and how pissed Kirk gets when his people die, especially needless deaths.
@@clancyholdopen3781 Someone did a breakdown counting the number of yellow, blue and red shirts on away missions and how many died and what percentages. While a "red shirt" is now a meme or something, it's true that more of them died. Kirk got a good bridge crew and engineer, but needed a top-notch security officer.
TOS has the best characters, bar none.
@@dannysalazar3340DS9 was pretty good, too.
This. Sure the show has some goofy sets, props and costumes, but the acting and writing is top notch.
Kirk doesn't accept the "No win scenario".
Indeed
All throughout the Wrath of Khan
@@jamesgoines7663 Kirk never accepted the "NWS"... even before Khan.
Kobayashi Maru
@@m.k.v.g.7203 The Corbomite Maneuver, Balance of Terror, Miri, etc...
"That's as far as you go, sir." Kirk was such a badass. This is why he was my hero growing up. Such a great scene. He wasn't about to back down, even in front of a superior officer. Well acted by both men. Right away in the episode, it really seemed like Stone had it in for him, for some reason .
I don't think he had it in for Kirk, he wanted to protect Starfleet, which is understandable given the evidence at the time. But both men coming from different sides, convinced they are right. Kirk angry but still respecting him with "sir" because he understood that Stone thought he was right also.
@@jackkenefick2696 It was a terrific scene. A battle of wills from two strong men.
Think of this: You're the prosecutor, you have the crime on video and the suspect is claiming that the video, the witnesses, and the physical evidence are wrong. Now add in the trouble of actually liking and respecting the suspect on top of that.....
@@jackkenefick2696 stone was also trying to protect Kirk, thinking honestly he had made a mistake
@@JackPonissi i think protecting starfleet was his primary objective. that the compromise might protect kirk too was a handy bonus. i dont think he wanted to destroy kirk but he would have to attempt it to protect starfleet if kirk didnt compromise
Gene Roddenberry helped us to forget ‘black and white,’ just content of character personified. We are a better species because of him, even if ever so slightly
There is only gold pressed latinum, and hands too small to hold it all.
Unfortunately, modern culture lost sight of racial indifference a long time ago. A modern audience would probably call this scene racist because they dared to have a black guy play a villain opposite a white antagonist.
@@Kyrieru or even a white protagonist -- or maybe there'll be a scream of "reverse racism" by all the chuckleheads who can't emotionally handle a colored person in a position of authority over the white protagonist. Who knows, people suck in general on both sides.
@@heedmywarning2792 Is that an unofficial Rule of Acquisition?
@@Kyrieru The black guy was Kirk's superior officer. Pretty sure the only people complaining are the ones who can't handle a black guy with a higher rank than a white guy.
Kirk at his coolest. Shatner at his best. Ground breaking casting.
I love this as an early example of the hypocrisy of the Star Fleet brass. From TNG on the story of a corrupt admiral , etc became common place. But we didn’t see much of that in the original series. This was a great scene showing that Star Fleet still has bureaucratic red tape despite the cheery future. One of Shatner’s best scenes too. “So that’s how we do things now? Sweep it under the rug and me along with it! Not on your life!” Also pretty cool that a black guy was ranked higher than Kirk, that was probably a big deal at the time. As an aside, I always wondered why they got rid of the rank of commodore after TOS. Cheers all 🍻🖖🏼
I imagine the hypocrisy of Star Fleet brass is why Kirk is so depressed in Star Trek II and nervous when he's on the Enterprise. He does NOT want to be like the stereotype of brass being hypocritical, corrupt, bureaucratic, overbearing, etc.
Nick Colbert same reason the U.S. Navy did. Commodores had the responsibilities and duties of an Admiral, so they made them Rear Admiral Lower Half and Upper Half.
the executives only agreed for the black guy to outrank Kirk if he was presented as a bad guy , that's why it was allowed
chrismc410 thanks for the info. I knew commodores didn’t exist in the navy anymore either but didn’t know the story behind it. 🖖🏼
Major Grin haha that may sadly be the truth. I love your channel by the way! 🖖🏼🍻
We didn’t need fancy special effects just good writing and good acting!
Sixty years later and we're still struggling with facts over narrative.
That problem has existed for as long as the concept of politics has.
Indeed
The Crime Of The Century, as plain as day in the dead of night.
This is one of my personal favorite episodes and one that's WAY underrated. No alien battle, no explosions or exploring alien worlds. Star Trek can be Star Trek with a court case lol
Measure of a Man is definitely one of my favorite TNG episodes.
@@phantomzero2413 Drumhead, anyone?
underrated????? it is highly rated!!
One of my fave scenes in TOS.
"It's in the transcript, and computer transcripts don't lie!!"
This episode is so important as Samuel Cogley's warnings about human rights being reduced to the level of machines is becoming the norm now.
Indeed. I was denied access to my card account despite verifying DOB, SSN, card number, and name. Why? Because I couldn't recall the answer to the "secret question". Is that frigging nuts or what? Retina scans are not far behind....
@@emdee7744 it's utterly insane. I hate tech. It turns me from a polite, mild-mannered man into a raging homicidal maniac!!
Now we know. Computers hallucinate.
But computer transcripts can be altered.
Cogley also warned that the rights of machines would be elevated above ours.
Experts predict that Artificial Intelligence will become self aware within ten years. When that day dawns it will be our last day, because logically, we are a waste of resources, consuming too much and returning next to nothing.
I would gladly serve on a starship under the command of either man.
me too. even if all I did was mop the floors of the Enterprise. lol
Same here. Two top notch leaders that will get you out of a fix.
Loved this episode, shows you how a true starship Captain reacts under pressure while in command of his ship, which, throughout the whole series, Captain Kirk there love is his ship, his crew and his career over anything else out there and proves that he is and always has been the very BEST starship Captain out there.
And alien women, but no one could command a starship better.
Such a great scene. Tautly written, directed and acted. I watched this episode a couple of weeks ago and it still holds up as gripping drama after all these years. Kudos to Roddenberry and his team for making such a great show.
Overall I'm way more a of a TNG guy as its what I grew up with, but there's a few episodes of TOS which the cheesiness of the time its made just fade away in the face of how well written it is. Remember the first episode of TOS i watched fully was 'the enterprise incident' was like 18 and at a mates and we put on that silly space show from the 60's so we could laugh at how bad it was. After like 15 minutes we were just glued to the screen in silence utterly absorbed in it!
Just a tiny bit of pride knowing that both these men are from my hometown of Montreal...
I love the courage of gene to put a strong black man as a commodore in 1966,
And a strong black woman as an officer on the bridge.
It's what made Star Trek ahead of its time.
Star Trek back then was awesome. It really felt like the future with no need to label people and I never thought what race people were when I watched it. The only thing was McCoy and his Green Blooded Vulcan statements seemed a bit racist but at least he never said that black skinned security officer.
@@dbloyd2 Although Spock got on McCoy's nerves a lot, McCoy knew that Spock was right 9/10. He even once said that Spock was the best first officer in the fleet.
Can't do that these days without the so-called alt-right making videos calling it crap SJW bullshit brought about by globalist Hollywood liberal elites. **Sigh** How the world has changed.
"So, you have chosen... death."
"Chosen? I demand it, and right now!"
Back when integrity was more important than ego. My how our society has fallen in such a short time.
Never mess with Captain James T Kirk when it comes to his decision making aboard his ship
Kirk was pretty damn awesome in this scene.
Percy Rodrigues was cast perfectly for this role as Commodore Stone.
Awesome scene! Percy Rodriquez knocked it outta the park!
Sometimes I wonder if Kirk's brass balls actually clanged as he walked.
LOL
They did. That’s why he was my childhood hero on TV.
@@AgentM79 - Yup. Kirk doesn't afraid of anything.
With this scene Commodore Stone has equally big balls.
The clanking is what gave the Enterprise away in the episode with the Romulans, not Spock's incident with the panel.
William Shatner as Captain Kirk is perfect for this 1960s Star Trek like Adam West as Bruce Wayne for 1960s Batman anyone else wouldn't have worked
One of my favorite episodes. Commodore Stone is an awesome character and gives the command structure of the fictional Starfleet a sense of realism and depth in that these officers seem like actual no nonsense tough as nails experienced commanders with true command authority going through a court-marshal. No hokeyness like you see in the newer series, although TNG did a good job in some episodes. I remember seeing this as a kid and thought nothing of the races of the two characters. Same with the famous kiss scene. Star Trek showed what the human race, if united, could accomplish. Except for getting rid of Yeoman Rand, Roddenberry had a gift of picking good actors for this series and it shows in the final product.
Same here. I grew up in rural Louisiana in the late 60s, and Stone was just Stone.
Well, about the races. Normal 97,5% of people are just like you. You barely even register their different colors. In context of the show, you notice they are humans, men, military rank and then their dialogue. And thats how it should be.
But in todays world of sick SJW and Wokenes, it will be made damn sure and clear that you will notice their color, sexusl orientation, religion, parents and what else. None of those matter of course to you, but The Message must ne delivered!
Stone was a great strong intimidating but ethical character I wish would have returned later on.
One of my favorite scenes watching this as a young kid. I still get goosebumps with this, freaking awesome both actors in this.
I am really impressed with Jim’s ballsiness here. Keeping one’s cool in the face of an accusation and demanding to have justice seen through rather than save face by sweeping it under the rug. I have had self doubt many times in my life and I wish I could be unerringly confident in myself as Kirk is.
You know this is fiction.....? 😉
@@michelangeloc.4265 and your point? Are you trying to say one can’t admire fictitious convictions and aspire to them? Your life must be very dull.
@@jime6688 his life must be dull 🤣😂
@@jime6688 He was saying not to be too hard on yourself, but nice personal attack. Talk about keeping cool..
"I request trial by court-martial, sir"- Lt. Winters
IRL that was a lot of what really got Sobel reassigned. Winters was very popular with the NCOs and men because of his competence and fairness, and Sobel resented it - Winters insisted he never tried to make it a popularity contest between him and Sobel, but Sobel insisted on bringing him up on trumped-up charges to bring him down a peg. After Sobel was transferred out the charges were quietly dropped. I don't think the series mentioned what became of the charges.
William Shatner As Captain James T Kirk And Percy Rodriguez As Commodore Stone , Thank You Gentleman For That Excellent Scene !
Shatter will always be my captain. This was the cast I grew up with. I will go down only with this crew.
ST TOS consistently had the best writing and acting of all the Trek series incarnations.
AC/DC wrote a song about Captain Kirk. "Who has the biggest balls of them all? Captain Kirk has the biggest balls of them all!"
For Those About to Spock, We Salute You...
@@buxycat Let there be Spock, Spock down in flames.
Loved this episode, of course loved ALL of the Original Star Trek Series episodes. In this episode, you will see a starship Captain who took protective decisions used to save his ship, and his crew that ment MORE to him than anything else out there. He didn't shirk his duties, he did what his experience and training lead him to do in a crisis situation. Face it folks, actor William Shatner brought the tole of Captain James T. Kirk alive, and face it he did do an unbelievable excellent job of taking the Original Star Trek Series to greater heights that still exist to this day in 2018. When on the stand he was as cool as a cucumber, and explained his movements and judgements with perfect rationality. The Original Star Trek Series will always easily outshine forever more as a much better Star Trek than that next generation stuff.
The original start trek is the only one I Liked. Nothing better than the original.
I too love all the original Star Trek episodes.
Except for "The Empath."
And "The Way to Eden."
Yuck.
There are a few crummy episodes, but the original series was dope. I just watched it for the first time a couple months ago. I grew up with TNG, and I love both, but Kirk was such a bad ass.
@@SuStel l agree
@@SuStel I didn't like those episodes either. I've watched them quite a few times now and I can see what they're trying to say. My only problem still is Gem in The Empath. She just weirds me out.
"I don't need no stinking computer record. I was on that bridge. I know what happened.. I know what I did.. I will *not* admit to wrong doing when I've done ne wrong."
Kirk was a man of principles. He would *never* take the easy way out. Doing the right thing is hard? Sure is, but it's worth every bit of effort you expend to see that that the right thing is done.
Two Paramount executives watched Shatner perform as Kirk. One said, “that’s why we pay him to big money”.
The commodore was played by a Canadian, Percy Rodriguez. He was born in Montreal and has black and Portuguese ancestry. He was a professional boxer in his youth and then turned to acting. He shunned stereotypical roles and opted for roles that projected intelligence and authority.
Some of the best work in the series here, by two fine actors portraying the kind of controlled, disciplined anger that would come out in such a clash.
This is better than 99.999% of TV shows in the last 40 years, and every TV show in the last 5.
Notice how no one has to hammer us about the Commodore's race.
And the members of the court martial board! And not one mention about it, it was awesome.
Lets not forget that the lead prosecutor for Kirk's trial was a woman. That would have turn heads in the 1960s.
@@christopherdaffron8115 That's a good point.
Please understand that any Black people watching this in 1966 were eating it up. Roddenberry said tolerance isn’t good enough such that people would enjoy differences, not hate them. Like everyone in his gleaming future believes Black is beautiful which was a popular phrase that came out soon after Star Trek’s first season. So race did matter, in a cool way.
You mean like you're doing right now?
"By WHAT Commodore Stone?" - That's the man.
"...the whole disciplinary weight of Starfleet Command is going to alight right on your neck."
It did again after he stole the Enterprise in Star Trek 3 TSFS.
This show is so good. You just don't see acting like this today. It's seriously so easy to get sucked into each episode. Nothing like it for its time, and nothing like it to this day. Favorite show of all time. I'm only 23, but I've never had a show draw me in so much in my life. Even the silly episodes (Spocks Brain, Tribble Trouble, etc.) Are fun to watch.
Older shows have far better acting, plots, even music. They also had tremendous character, and were original. Today, they reboot everything, and make inferior copies. Today there's no imagination, thinking outside the box, or creativity. Everything is shallow, with millions of action scenes and no plot or storyline worth following.
@@Strive1324L So true. There a a few diamonds in the sea of endless streaming dribble, though.
An example of a superior officer taking responsibility ! Love it !
Agreed
Just perfect. The acting, the story, the characters, Roddenberry was a genius
"Computer transcripts don't lie." That line probably didn't provoke the same howls of laughter it would today, when most people are painfully familiar with exactly how infallible computers are and the practical effects of the GIGO principle.
I really admire scenes like this. Just tense 'boardroom' talk. No action. Simply, two officers staring one another down, pulling rank, spouting protocol.
He's so lovely when he's angry ain't he!😍
This scene is one reason why "Court Martial" is one of my favorite episodes.
I just want to say that seeing a person of color who is in charge didn't even phase me. I thought it was normal. Only reading the comments made me realize that yes, in the 1960's it was very, very rare.
The fact it comes across as normal is part of the strength of how this was shot: Stone is a commodore and the fact that he also is black is totally irrelevant to the story, they could have cast an actor of any ethnicity to play him. Because of this it’s shown that racial conflict is no longer an issue in the future.
@@JackPonissi And because of today's SJW culture, it's all anyone can see when they watch this scene. But that's progress, right?
@@davidryder3374 I know huh? It's sad.
@@davidryder3374 well when modern media constantly makes everything about race and sexuality that's all people can see anymore
@@michaelkeha That's the frustration: to see people thinking this way, instead of thinking "Why are the media trying to make me think like that?"
The media by its very existence is able to, metaphorically speaking, exaggerate its troop size by putting helmets atop broomsticks. All this and advertisements, too! I'll pass..
Unlike the admirals of tng onward, Stone seems pretty straight up. Trying to defend the service and get kirk, a well decorated captain, off easy, even though he knows it's very low ball to do. But did things the right way. Unlike for example admiral pressman, or admiral Ross with section 31
He was trying to be Kirk's friend. He was going to give him a way out where he didn't have to be totally disgraced, otherwise he wouldn't have become a pariah.
Stone was actually a stand up guy, just trying to keep a legend from becoming a laughing stock and a cautionary tale.
@@tbirdguy1
He tried to do the right thing, he knew kirk and didn´t believe it was malice, irresponsibility but the kirk was worn out by command responsibility so he offered him the Retire and we don´t need a court martial, maybe he was even there himself,
It was IIRC usually so in the british royal navy in Nelson´s time to let officer choose between retirement and court matial
@@jkeelsnc Admiral Leyton was the guy who sabotaged Earth in DS9.
As unlikeable as Nechayev was, her actress always tried to play her as someone who had strong principles and stuck to them, no matter how unlikeable it made her. Kind of the opposite side of the scale. And we do get some reasonably good folk, like Ross in DS9 (his brief co-operation with S31 aside), and Admiral Paris in Voyager. So it's not ALL bad.
It's quite possible that the source of much of the corruption is the influence of Section 31 operatives, acting as a secret society and influencing officers behind the scenes. It's been suggested Pressman was doing S31's work when it came to the phased cloaking device.
@@jkeelsnc DS9 had a lot of 'Save the Federation, at the cost of becoming the Dominion' stories. Leyton was one of those. Subvert the civilian authority, so Starfleet could save the galaxy. At least, in his eyes. Up until then, Sisko gives the impression that Leyton had been a good man.
Another good one - Admiral Henry, who shows up to Picard's 'Drumhead' hearing and walks out in disgust.
the better Trek shows have good Admirals.
One of my top five favorite org. Star Trek episodes!
Stone - "Computer transcripts don't lie."
RUclips auto CC - "Cum trash skits won't rye."
(Note, this video doesn't have CCs, just pointing out that computers can be wrong on the simplest things.
KIRK: "To prove that computer transcripts don't lie, I call to the stand RUclips's Automatic Closed Captioning AI."
BAILIFF: "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"
AI: "Eye dew."
@@waltonsimons12 excellent, simply excellent
Best sci fy from late 60s to early 70s. Great influence on the youth of that generation.
GREAT!!!!!!ACTING BY BOTH ACTOR'S!!!!!!!😃😃😃😃😃😃
100% agreed
I love the way the Commodore first uses the Buddy speech then as Kirk drops the mic.He then pulls out the bat!
Commodore Stone looks like Dr. Daystrom's twin brother.
its a job
Why, because they’re both black? They don’t all look the same you know.
@@ArmyJames Don't judge so quickly. I wish I could post their Star Trek in-character photos here, because the actors are very similar in overall appearance. Pull up those photos and take a look: both have high, prominent foreheads, high cheekbones, strong chins. Piercing eyes. Very handsome men. Not identical twins, of course but very similar and with powerful personalities.
@@ShroomKeppie a . . no they are not.
@@ShroomKeppie Agreed. They look alike in the same way that Katy Perry and Zooey Deschanel look alike-- not identical, but very similar.
When the music kicks in you know it's going to be some good shit after the commercial...
I was 6 when Star Trek premiered. I never thought of the races of the people. I remember thinking Uhura was such a beautiful lady. Nobody mentioned her race. Nobody cared. The show was ahead of it's time, to be sure.
Space Lincoln would disagree with the race thing being never mentioned 🤣
It was noted. The kiss was a big deal when it happened. Plus naming her Uhuru (Swahili for freedom) was also incredibly topical given decolonization in East Africa.
Dammit, I *really* have to buy TOS set soon. I don't remember this at all!
Kirtzman's mind couldn't fathom this scene without thousands of explosions and bad cgi effects
Ohh don't go thinking that Roddenberry era directors didn't abuse whatever they could. There are SO many episodes full of practical special effects with the music going DUN-DUN DUN DUN!
Huh? I fail to see the relevance
@@Mxyzptlksac there is none. I'm just making fun of Kurtzman cause he's a horrible showrunner for star trek
I grew up on these episodes and taught me honour, respect , and character 🫡
Kirk had balls, god what a character
“I never lie when I’ve got sand in my shoes, commodore.”
This episode shows the triumph of integrity against the quasi military institution’s tendency to cover up bad incidents. Regrettably it is not this way in our time, nor is it likely to be in 350 years. I have known military and civil servants who had their careers ruined by higher ups who pre-decided they would be forced out, no matter what the facts showed.
One of the best guest actors in the series. Percy Rodriguez was brilliant!
its to bad they didn't make Commodore Stone a recurring character he was probably the more likeable superior officer Kirk has worked with
@@jmann6130 Stone was actually a Commodore who knew his $#!t. He treated Kirk like a professional while still putting the spurs to him for possible negligence
@@penguinphysics well said wouldn’t be surprised if he was an ancestor of Sisko!
Two Canadian actors butting heads in a well acted scene. 🖖
This scene is so engaging, the presence of these two characters is massive and the silence for the first minute really makes you focus on just what they are saying.
One of the better scenes from Trek.
Thank you, Commodore Stone, for helping us to get the episode underway! We'd have had a hard time of it by ourselves!
Unlike a lot of starship Captains, Kirk had fire.
@Ernest Keller Kirk was victorious. I loved the actor who played Ron Tracy. DId a lot of westerns. Morgan Woodward?
@Ernest Keller No. There are multiple other Captains in TOS.
Draw it? I demand it! And Right now! Commodore Stone Right now!
Imagine a Star Trek series starring Percy Rodrigues
It’s amazing what you can get accomplished with some well-timed righteous indignation…
They should have named him "James G. Kirk". The "G" is for gangsta.
In the second pilot “Where No Man Has Gone Before”, the mutating Gary Mitchell created a tombstone for Kirk reading “James R Kirk”.
Kirk’s middle name of “Tiberius” didn’t become canon until (I think) Season 2. One could retcon the erroneous “R” middle initial into an indication that Mitchell wasn’t quite as all-powerful as he thought himself to be, if he couldn’t remember his one-time best friend’s middle initial.
@@Mikey300 If I'm not mistaking, the name Tiberius was first mentioned in one the episodes from Star Trek: The Animated Series. Up to that point, I think that it was just James T Kirk.
@@justafanofnerdculture7602 Upon further reflection, I do believe that you are correct. Kirk received the “T” middle initial sometime during The Original Series, but what it stood for may not have been identified until The Animated Series. At least they didn’t name him “James Caligula Kirk”, if they were going to use the name of a Roman Emperor for Kirk’s middle name.
@@Mikey300 interesting. I am a Star Trek, and especially Kirk, fan...but I did not know that detail. Once, I was "accused" of being a "Trekkie". I said, "Hey, I don't know anything more about James Tiberius Kirk than the next guy!" Everyone got a laugh out that.
@@Mikey300 Another interesting thing that involves the animated series, is that during one of the episodes, for the first and only time, the phrase "Beam me up, Scotty" was actually used.
"Don't let them do anything to take you off the bridge of that ship, because while your there, you can make a difference." Kirk to picard in Generations.
So progressive. It doesn't punch you in the face with being progressive but it shows a future from 1960s that people of all races are treated equal.
"It doesn't punch you in the face with being progressive"
It doesn't punch you in the face if you're from 2021. But if you're from 1967, you damn well better believe that a whole lot of white people felt punched in the face by this scene.
@@waltonsimons12 That's what all these people who claim that shows like Discovery "shove it down our throats" now are missing. Back in the day, such people would be screaming for blood if the internet existed, and they'd just watched this TOS episode. It would have really given us some perspective, which we sorely need today.
"Draw it? I demand it!"
Kirk was the best star trek captains of all. time !
Top 3 for sure
Everyone's gangster till kirk demands it....great post 📫
I’m starting to understand the appeal of TOS.
Yeah. It wasn't all throwing rocks at men in lizard suits. There were plenty of thought-provoking moments throughout its run.
@@ryans756 There were also double fist punches.
@@CdrChaos And Uhura's legs.
@@ryans756 Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.
@@CdrChaos Ohhh yes. Love me some short-skirted culture 🙂
Loved the scene where they were reading off his commendations because his lawyer wanted it for the record. Reminds me of when they had to read off Data's record in "Measure Of A Man" in TNG
The main thrust I got from this episode is about man's over reliance on technology. Everyone believed the computer to be infallible, even Kirk's attorney, and nobody raised the possibility that the records might have been tampered with , until Spock decided to test the memory banks.
And then later they trust a computer to run the Enterprise, and it cost Starfleet a ship and a lot of lives. I'd like to think Starfleet learned from that, too, but then they fall in the other pit much later and blindly assume only androids are to blame for the destruction of Utopia Planitia Shipyards.
we are seeing that in many things in our every day lives now like cars for example. a computer on wheels. Everything is run by a computer or a processor even mundane things like turn signals and windshield wipers. It's all good until there becomes a glitch in the matrix. then the car is doomed.
Great scene. "Draw it? I demand it! And right now Commodore Stone, Right now! " This is why I love Captain Kirk! He wasn't afraid. He knew he did the right thing at that moment. He had a moment of doubt later for a brief brief time but He knew He did the proper steps at the proper time.
Great writing, great acting.
Agreed
Kirk has the best “Try me, fucker” face of them all when he’s mad.
imagine Kirk in a permanent ground position.... yeah, right.
@Wingate at Ulster the worst punishment you can give s starfleet captains is a promotion
@@Zerox5861 Happened to Picard and look what happened to him. Disgraced and booted out. He didn't take good advice when it was given to him, "Do nothing that takes you off of the bridge of that ship. Because when you are there...you make a difference."
Kirk, a desk-bound paper pusher, no way! 😃
@Wingate at Ulster Kirk to Picard in Generations: "Captain of the Enterprise? Close to retirement?" Picard :"Well, I hadn't planned on it" Kirk:"Well don't. Don't let them promote you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there, you can make a difference. " Sums up Kirk's attitude
Kirk living up to Federation principles long before TNG. people don't credit Kirk enough for how great of a captain he is!
woo, this is heavy doc...
DrDeath184 there's that word again, heavy
Why are things so heavy in the future, is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?
Another perfect example of why the original series can and will never be surpassed. ( at least in my opinion)
Kirk is awesome in this episode
Excellent episode.
This was how Kirk was able to get away with so much shit. After this Starfleet was reticent to ever challenge him again
I could care less what others say. William Shatner is one hell of an actor!
if this were the Abramsverse he'd be whining about how he doesn't want to be court martialed
You are hallucinating.
Abramsverse: Aw shucks Jimmy, don't cry. We know how special you are.
You mean how he whines after his first court martial in Star Trek 09 after cheating the Kobayashi Maru? Huh, don’t remember that happening… Oh yeah, it didn’t. He manned up, gave his reasons, and when questioned on his beliefs and actions, he stood for them, defending every point Spock made.