Why i fell in Love with the Daeinos
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Today I profess my love for the Romulan Daeinos class. A Romulan Warbird from the Mysterious "Lost Era" whose Design in many ways Harkens back to the Original Series Era. with its clean shape and bright colours she is a marked contrast to the Dark, Forboding Warbirds of the 24th century, yet she is no less deadly...
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I could see a nostalgic romulan admiral insisting on the white and orange color scheme
The Romulan version of the Excelsior mafia.
A Classic is a Classic.
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The Daeinos is indeed quite a looker. It's a great addition to the Romulan fleet both aesthetically and doctrinally.
As for the whole Nova vs Daeinos thing, well as any good subadmiral knows; a single ship is good, a quartari of ships is better.
just imagining your wife just looking at you funny when you confess your love about these ships lol
She kinda reminds me of a 1950's retro-futuristic jet aircraft.
That's why I love it
There's a contradiction in terms.
The Dhealan being a modern design absolutely fits it. The swap between them is a good one.
Personally, the smaller ship works very well as a stopgap towards smaller, more compact, and more importantly cheaper vessels for use in the era when the Star Empire had descended into Warlordism.
Yeah. But as drach pointed out they were kinda heading that way anyway after the dominion war
The Dhealan would work if we got 23rd century design parts based on the Nova design. As in it's core design that's how it would be.
My head canon about the Dhelan class(and it's variants) is that it was a design created by D'Tans group before the Republic was established by basically raiding defunct shipyards and scrapyards for salvageable components that they basically banged together into a light ship for their fight with the Tal Shiar. When the Flotilla and then the Republic are established they gradually phase it out of service in favor of the capable designs
The Daeinos-class was basicslly an old-school Valdure/Mogai/Norexan class-style battle cruiser!
The weapon is called the plasma lotus, and it fires a lot of beams at once.
Given the longevity of Vulcans/Romulans the Daeinos could very well have been designed by a team consisting of the junior designers for the T'Liss and the senior designers for the Norexian. This ship definitely looks more era appropriate than the Dhealan, which rather looks like something the Romulans might have thrown together during or just after the Dominion War to cover losses (Dhealan looks too D'Deridex like in 'decoration' to postdate Norexian).
These ships probably see as much, or more, service than the Nova on the less well known borders of the Star Empire and on minor fronts, like facing off with the Kizinti or the large borders away from the Klingon and Federation borders up through the Dominion War. After all, it isn't like there aren't other powers bordering the Romulans and, given the Romulan's standard diplomatic strategies, these unknown powers probably have grudges. These are relatively modern and quite powerful ships which haven't been used up in constant patrols and skirmishes, making them great for those roles.
Yeah like I say. While it probably isn't up to par with the federation ships of the time. It was perfectly good against most enemies
Ahh yes, the Romulan destroyer class warbird veteran rewards rewards ship.. she's actually a quite good ship in game (Startrek Online)
Because the Nova's a one-guy ship ;-) and we're very happy together
Sexy ship! Reminds me somewhat of the description for the Ivarix-class, from the Lost Era Novel, Serpents Among the Ruins, too (set at Tomed)
I'm still way behind on my STO lore, though, including all the ship backstories and retcons.
Kids when a man and a Starship really love each other..........
Well done on taking a STO design and inserting it into the Lost Era. The explanation does make sense for a ship of this type as the Romulans scale up their ships into the Warbirds.
Here's the new challenge: STO-era Romulan Fleet Doctrine for both the remnants of the Romulan Star Empire and the up-and-coming Romulan Republic.
Oh blimey that would be quite a dense topic to cover.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 It could be. The way I see it, you have two different styles based on what each side has available and how it evolves as the years tick by. Probably would be easier to start with the remnants of the Empire and then go into the Republic. Each also has different styles of ships in play, but there is crossover as well.
@@enterprise1701e there's also the reman ships and the borg nano tech
I dig the copper and white color schemes of that ship.
Venom has admits he is cheating on the nova . And the Dederidex before that lol . Toxic masculinity. ( peer pressure)
A class of Romulan ship that survived from the lost era all the way to the Romulan Republic era? That just shows how amazing the design is, and how loved it is.
Same here awesome video
My favorite Romulan STO ship by far. She looks like a hawk to me; wonderfully sleek while gliding but with a slight aggressive look as it hunts.
Now that is one hell of a sart ship
Nooothing wrong with liking and wanting damn gorgeous... It's called mid-life upgrades for a reason! And she's a good good!
My Romulan warbird love afair is with the Praetor class from SNW season 2, my top favorite used to be the T'liss Refit. I just love the heavy avian design of it.
Youi know what it is? It's the ipod of Romulan ships. A sleek minimalist bright white design. And yes I like her
omg that intro... AmAzIng
LOL, loved the humor.
No worries, man, we all have a cross to bear
I remember when we where toying around with coloration on the Daeinos, and man, with it keep popping up in your vids, I really wish that it would get an update in Star Trek Online as I would fly that now, may just do so anyway honestly. And as someone else mentioned here, the big weapon that was fitted on it by the republic was the plasma lotus, essentially just a extremely amped up beam array, that at least in my mind, took up alot of power, so could only be used sparingly. Overall, another good vid that as given me back my appreciation for the Daeinos.
Yeah a lot of those ships in STO really would benefit from a fresh coat of paint
Nova class: hits 24 years of service.
Venomardo di Caprio:
You can always love more than one person.
I'm sorry but I LOVE the white orange Nova.
To each their own. I'm glad some folks like it
I’d never seen the Daeinos until your video. Reminds me of the Neorexan from Nemesis in terms of shape honestly.
Well I was designed bu the same company
Cut to: External view, Nova sending a full spread of Plasma Torpedoes streaking towards Venom's house.
I like Big Bird the best but this ship still kicks butt and very worthy of screen time. Thank you for making these great videos and please don't stop.
Just looking at those silhouettes I am falling in love with her too. She shares design with the TOS Romulan ship, the TNG/DS9 D'Deridex, and the Valdor from Nemesis.
Yeah a little bit of everything
A thought of how to have TOS era paint jobs later on is if it was used for, say, prototypes undergoing trials and what not. Easier to see with the eye if need be, and could be a homage to early Romulan history (perhaps back to the days when they split from the Vulcans). Alternately, it's a ceremonial color scheme for Praetor's Guard ships or something in peacetime. In wartime, swap the white for the regular dark green, maybe darken the orange? So they're still distinctive, but not as obviously. Or a bit of both ideas.
As for why (if not a homage to an earlier point of their history)... perhaps that era itself is seen as the start of the Empire's resurgence and renewed growth (that hits a slight speed bump with the Dominion War, then ends with Hobus) and thus is honored even as the paint job / color scheme gets replaced with the more "traditional" greens.
🖖😎👍A very nice and cool looking ship indeed 👌.
i really like this ship great job buddy😊
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Venom, you know you want tap her EPS grid! LOL
I don’t blame you. She is a LOT of fun to fly on STO. As old as the model is in the game; I’ll go back to her again and again as she really fits how I fly.
Even though she is a capital size ship of the era, the BoP fits. To me it is almost a precursor to the anti-Borg fleet and in my mind I could see her using those sort of anti-Borg tactics you show in your 2nd battle of Sector 001 video.
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At least you're honest friend 😹 me in my case my favorite Romulan ship is the next generation Warbird and why because. I like big Warbirds and cannot lie 🎵🎶🎵
Leaving another ship for a mean looking one that likes experimenting....this ends with you having to plug a black hole while the Senate watches and judges your performance.
I’d like to see the narendra fight the Daeinos
"Your a very weird person Yossarian..."
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Why, Venom, you lusty bugger, you, kicking the busted oldness to the space-curb for the new hawtness......you cad, you bounder, you very hound, sir!!!!
Well done, I say!
Also, sorry to be THAT guy, but it would be pronounced "die-ih-nos"---then again, it's a made-up word, so......
Sometimes one can't help but admire some plump, round, ample nacelles.
Romulans do know how to build real lookers of ships, usually...
And it's Norexan, by the way, as established in the Trek customizable card game, I believe?
oooh scandalless....haha, be careful torpedos might be in your direction soon
So when can we expect the pitter-patter of little venom talons?
I know the feeling, but I'll keep her name to myself, and she most definitely has the wings, and the aft, and the sensors arrays and uh yeah.... And no I have not been unfaithful, unlike others who shall remain unnamed... Venom.
I enjoy the renderings that don’t give it a cruise-ship amount of windows.
My it got steamy in here has the passion cooled yet or do you still yearn for those arching pylons and curved nacelles? This is certainly one of the more successful STO designs imo, it's derivative but, different enough to be it's own design and familiar as a classic Romulan predator. We owe Probert a great deal for his work on defining what a Romulan ship should be, as soon as he whipped out his big D' everyone fell in love with it and wanted more which STO have been only too happy to indulge.
Probert never intended his D' to be green, it was meant to be steely with cool squadron markings, I think you covered this Venom so the design you chose is on point.
It's a testament to his eye as a draftsman and technical analysis that his ships look awesome and work so well in fiction from a practical standpoint, and why decades later this 3rd party design bears the shadow of his influence. I think he's also being consulted on the look of many of the new shows, I'm sure I saw his name in the credits?
The 2 cruisers in Nemesis were designed from a cool/cinematic stance rather than practical, they're massive but all their guns in that sequence pointed forward, so nothing learned from the Dominion conflict? I never really cared for them but this one works and the nacelles have line of sight which is a Roddenberry detail gradually being lost to us in recent years imo.
Can't wait for the Anime Fanart of a Romulan Commander throwing heaps of praise on a Daeinos-Class Shipgirl. While a Nova-Class Shipgirl is ready to drop Heavy Plasma Torpedoes on the two out of pure jealousy.
Yes, haters. That is a weeb moment. And don't lie. You want to see it too. You are just in denial.
The ship I fell in love with in Star Trek was the Sovereign class then the scimitar stole my heart lol
The bring the defender is my favorite but I do like this ship too.🖖 since the Roman Republic uses it.
I think the Dhealan works as a lost era ship if it includes hull variants similar to the Nova. It works as a good excelsior competitor.
Is it just me, or does the Dhealan (3:16) have a bit of a Systems Commonwealth look about her? With a more metallic paint job I could definitely see her operating alongside the Glorious Heritage class Heavy Cruiser (Andromeda Ascendant) or Siege Perilous class Attack Cruiser (Balance of Judgement/Wrath of Achilles).
My personal favourite of the "Lost Era" ships shown on this channel has gotta be the FIrehawk. She's a predator - sleek, fast and agile. But as a battlecruiser she has to pick her prey with care.
Good comparison I do see what you mean. And I do like the firehawk. Very strong but simple design
That's a much more flattering comparison. My first thought was that the Dhealan looks similar to the Klingon POS ships in Discovery S1.
Don't feel bad I have a love of the armada games Shadow and Griffin wish they had a cannon version
i have a favorite ship from each of the 3 main factions, for the Federation it is the Galaxy X Dreadnaught, for the Klingon's it is the K't'inga Class Battle Cruiser and for the Romulan's its the D'deridex Class Warbird
I have to disagree with you on the Galaxy class, but the other two are a definite 👍. For me it's a toss up between the TOS Constitution class and the Sovereign class for a UFP ship.
Note: with the discovery of this ship, it takes a very close second place for the Romulan ships.
same thing happend to me i really liked the galaxy class then i saw the odyssey class its now my favorite ship lol
Talking about third parties makes me interested in if you can make a video or two giving some basic info of minor powers in the galaxy.
Other than the great powers you only really hear about a few of them that directly interact with the federation.
Possibly. Yeah that would be interesting
What's better than this or the Vemelak? The Aehlal of course!
Why don't you just marry the Daeinos!?!?!? HAHAHAHA!
I have to agree that not only is it a sexy ship but it looks best in white and orange.
But what about the kids... firehawk and vmelak
@@venomgeekmedia9886 they learn to love their new daddy or they get the strap!
Besides all the near orgasms, i would say in a fight, a good commander on equal terms the daenos should win out with those powerful disruptors and good use of cloak
Against what?
The daenos vs the vemelak
@@timothyhiggins8934 yeah both are warbirds at the end of the day
Sorry dude... but when it comes to STO Romulan ships my heart will always beat for the Jhu'ael tactical carrier warbird.
Long love the Romulan Republic!
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Venom Geek Media. Sorry to interrupt the love-in, but could you explain something to me please? The two ships who come to help the Enterprise in Star Trek Nemesis, one is called The Valdore, though the other is not named. There seems to be some confusion over the name of the class, can you sort that out? The Mogai-class, the Valdore-type or Norexan-class. Which is it?
I love that flying wing design looks really cool, just maybe a little too wide.
From what I've seen, the official name of the class is Mogai. They are called "Valdore-Type" by non-Romulans, who use the information and scans of the Valdore itself to represent the class in-reference. This is inconvenient in the 25th Century, as there's an actual standardized refit of the space-frame called the Valdore Class, which while similar in shape, has some clearly distinct features and composition to it.
The few places I've seen mention of Norexan appear to generally be in technical advisories and reports, mostly from before the ship's wide-spread usage. It appears that this may be a working designation for the design process, or perhaps a prototype form of the vessel, prior to its gaining status as a ship of the line.
Just my observations and speculations, though.
Yeah I know it as neorexan but everyone knows what the valdore is
Class is Mogai the first of the class was nerexan the head ship in nemesis was called valdore
Have you thought of doing or commissioning designs for what Romulan and Klingon ships could look like in discoveries future timeline being the 31st and 32nd century timeline of federation ships we haven't gotten really to see anything other than Federation ships and books ship but we get a very low low low low low low low residue of a Navarre vessel which would be a combination of romulans and Vulcans but I would suspect that both the Vulcans and romulans would still maintain their own style of ships not just having a hybridization of the two as well and I'd be very interested to see what a Romulan battle cruiser or Romney and bird of prey would look like in discovery's timeline as well as a Klingon ship and of course we could use Federation ships as an inspirational guideline but then both of those races do have their own style of design but then there's always the common rules of Starship designs that follow all throughout Star Trek as well something I've been thinking of and I know I'd like to see but I've also wondered what you would think of those as well
Wow, you've got it bad. Take a cold shower. (LOL)
Have a happy new year.
I'm surprised given it's two large hanger bays and overall size that it wasn't also made into an escort carrier. I mean imagine the situation a convoy it's escirting comes under attack, a couple of these are cloaked, they decloak and vomit out a ron of fighters each and proceed to teach the attackers the error of their ways.
Possibly but fighters are best employed in ground attack on fortified worlds
A really cool emergency refit would be slotting in huge disruptors and torpedo launchers on the cavities of these forward hangers, plus auxuliary reactors to power them. Its already basing its main firepower on the forward arc after all.
If a shuttle bay is absolutely necessary they can add a small outrigger one on the top and bottom.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I dunno, I think they have a part to play in escort missions where they act as a "force multiplier" against would be raiders like an angry swarm of bees, presenting more targets that cannot simply be ignored.
So, what third parties did the Romulans sell Warbirds to?
Independent worlds... allies puppets
It's okay. I've heard guitar riffs I wanted to... well you know. Of course I also have synesthesia so certain sounds feel better than... well you know.
I very much dislike Romulans using antimatter. For my own head cannon, the infrastructure for antimatter refueling is just not there.
I've crunched the numbers and you can get away with fusing deuterium to nickel for long range (dozens of light years), fast (high warp 8, low warp 9), large (Galaxy sized) Starship. Especially if they're using bussard ram scoops while cruising and store their deuterium fuel in ultradense form, tho liquid metal would also work.
It's your history, if course. But that is my (only) criticism.
Sounds like you are drooling on your tunic? Lol
Does it show?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 that was your point of the video.
You fiend!
I have to say, i never liked the fact that it is painted.
It seems just so unnecessary.
Ive seen a model of a tos romulon bird of bird where the painted parts looked like they were made out of another material and the coloring came from that(like you would use gold and silver to make them).
That looked so good and basically it seemed like the name came from the technical design aspect and not like the og were the design had to fit the name.
Despite that, of course this ship looks beautiful. ;)
I like this ship a lot too but, please get the pronunciation right. The i comes before the n, not after unless it's a french name and letter pronunciation gets reversed like the re at the end of some words and names pronounced as er.
Lmfao
nova class look bad;P but Daeinos looks like REAL Romulan ship....not klingon/romulan hybrid like Nova;P
So, when are you two getting divorced?
This is your strangest video. wow.
Are you sure. I could probably top this very easily ;)
@@venomgeekmedia9886 the Phoenix episode? Haha!
@@davidreeves4556 oh nooo....