Cream - Toad (Farewell Concert - Extended Edition) (10 of 11)
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- Cream - Toad live at Royal Albert Hall, London.
November 26th, 1968
10 of 11
"Farewell Concert" is the live recording of the Cream's final concert at the Royal Albert Hall on November 26th, 1968.
Directed by Tony Palmer, the film incorporates pieces of six performances with narration by BBC announcer Patrick Allen, along with interviews with the band members themselves, showcasing their playing abilities.
The film has often been criticized for both its mediocre sound and visual effects.
In 2005, a special extended edition of the concert appeared featuring full versions of all songs separated from the narration and interviews. The new version featured digitally remastered sound and video including three bonus songs.
'A really good band with a bad drummer is not a good band. A really bad band with a good drummer sounds better.' - Ginger Baker.
Actually this is true.... Since a band follows a time signature and the drummer (mainly) is in charge of keeping that time signature, they can essentially make or through the entire performance. Drummers are also responsible for controlling the amount of energy being released, both by the band and the audience.
You talking about the Strange Brew Movie. There's a lot of good stuff in that movie. One of them is the one your talking about but Ginger says it a little bit different.
Ginger: A band is as good as it's drummer, a mediocre band with a mediocre drummer is mediocre. A mediocre band with a good drummer, becomes a good band. A really good band with a really good drummer, becomes a superband.
And right after that I love what Alex Van Halen says what he learned from Ginger is that drums are a musical instrument. There's more then just the hits, there's nuances, there's dynamics an so forth.
And like Ginger says in the movie: You can practice forever an get the most amazing technique an say nothing with it at all. It's a gift that some people have, and we three had it in abundance.
@@arminiushermann09 AIR FORCE it wasn,t a good band for Ginger,he makes a better album with Fela Kuti and maybe he could was a great drummer for Soft Machine after Robert Wyatt.
See The Beatles, Ringo is a simplest drummer without any solo or showing off, yet, make their sound more flavourful
and a good band with a good drummer is cream
R.I.P. Ginger Baker 10/6/2019
There's very little doubt that Peter "Ginger" Baker is one of the finest and most orginal drummers to ever beat the skins
Mick Pearson He's the shit!!! I always wanted to play drums...and like him specifically. Wonder if any of the original shots exist?
Gurn Blanston, what you might find more useful is a complete biography put to film about Ginger Baker released back in 2012.
I am a piano player and Ginger makes me want to play the drums. Funny enough I play along to his as rhythm track... I do recommend using Ginger as a metronome when practicing it's a hell of a lot more interesting than tick tock..... his time is as smooth as the burning cigarette in his mouth while he's soloing.
Its funny and I don't mean to troll or to annoy, but I really think he sucks. To each his own. I'll take Ringo, John Bonham, Stewart Copeland or Elvin Jones over Ginger Baker. I just don't get the fascination with this man.
Yep. I believe when Jimi Hendrix auditioned MM he asked him if he could play like Ginger Baker.
Now I know by what Moby Dick from Led Zeppeling and specially John Bonham's solo was inspired. Cream totally ahead of their time.
Rondo2ooo bonzo admired ginger was very respectful of baker's talent.
Eddie Rivera only if John Bonham "Bonzo" scholars would realize this.
While many drum solos are mostly the drummer showing off his/her technical skills, there are exceptions. Ginger Baker really paints landscapes and takes you there.
Couldn’t agree more, he really plays the drums, not just hits them
Beyond belief. The best and most original drummer ... EVER.
Ginger is my number one influence in drumming!!!🥁🥁🔥
The Cream...of the crop. How ANYONE could give this a thumbs down amazes me. I can't comprehend that. It's beyond all comprehension and understanding.
I know how you feel, but some people just dislike videos for no apparent reason
No it's just when some one gets a buzz going so good that they are seeing double and they can't tell thumbs up from thumbs down that's all!
They are probably fans of Ringo lol
It’s like drinking wine. There are some who like rot gut swill, and others like the finest stuff. Ginger was most assuredly the finest!
What makes him such a beast is that Ginger was a musician first. He understood time and could read music. He was always looking to excel, and to be accepted by the jazz drumming community. He also understood the essence of jazz and blues.
Ginger was respected by many jazz drummers, but especially by drumming greats Art Blakey, Elvin Jones, and Max Roach. He called them his "drum uncles."
Absolutely true.
Rest In Peace Ginger Baker! The greatest drummer this world has ever seen. reunited once again with Jack Bruce.
Yes. With Jack Bruce. Beating the shit out of each other. Lol, they hated each other..
Baker just naturally loves drumming, the more licks he can hit, the better - he is always in a blissful state when he's playing -
But apart from being ultra-coordinated he really understood the mechanics of polyrhythmic drumming time-signatures
Very well put.
The polyrhymic mechanics comes from African drummers and Baker knew dam well how to use it to drive his technique.
I love watching him, he could be in front of 10000 or alone, I think his concentration, and devotion to it would be the same. Plays because he loves it, not cuz he wants to be a star.
What a grenade... The Mother of all Rock Drum Solos....
didn' take no shit
played his heart out
great drummer
A force of nature
Rest In Peace to a mortal God who graced his talent of the kit for us to hear what power lies hidden within the cymbal and skin. To Ginger, I salute you!
never realized his strong influence on guys like Keith Moon and John Bonham
hippiecheezburger yes sir!
Playing wise Bonham yes but not Moon. Moon got the idea for using 2 bass drums from Ginger though...
I can hear runs where John definitely got inspiration in Bakers playing, Mr. Baker should be introduced to the current generation in a bigger way.
There are some musicians (even famous ones) who you`d say... "If I had 50 years to practise I reckon I could do that". Not with Ginger Baker...
Listen to how great the drums sound. Engineers don't know how to make drums sound like that anymore. And please, before any idiots say it was how he was playing: I've played drums professionally for over 20 years.
How does Ginger get all them rhythms flowing and counter flowing? He sounds like a drum orchestra. His four limb independence is incredible.
They really do. Nothing harsh or washed out or clipping.
Maybe Ginger did the tuning?
Jonah Martinez Tuning is definitely part of it - most half-decent drummers of the day would tune their kit jazz-style (super high) and not cover it with tape and blankets. It also has something to do with mics, but that's not my area of expertise.
I got it! Consider his shells. 3 ply mahogany Ludwig’s with wide bearing edges. This gives then that fat, round, and warm sound. Also consider he did not dampen his drums. He used coated ambassador heads all around, tuned high. Nothing inside the bass drums- maybe a felt strip touching the head of the 22”, but the 20” was wide open. Lastly, the room surely had a part in the huge sound.
He always adds that African beat cant help himself.
I love that!!!
Ginger Baker was a FORCE Of NATURE. Job done.
Bernardo Terreno hammer of the gods
They’d have him in prison or so doped up he’d be useless if he came along now
This guy is untouchable. The power and skill is off the charts
I saw Cream at St. Marys College in Twickenham in '67. Bakers 'Toad' had us nailed to the back wall!
Im 59 years old and there is still no better drummer than Ginger Baker.
What about buddy rich?
Totally agree
O all the drummers I've ever seen, and I've seen many... None compare to Ginger Baker. He made drums not only a time keeping instrument, he made it a musical instrument. He is and always will be my inspiration on drums.
spudfriley pretty much most jazz drummers after Gene Krupa did exactly that a well
spudfriley Yep, and that's because he was so diverse an got the most out of his drums. His timing, improv skills an four limb Independence is indeed, amazing, an the fact he plays beats on every last piece of his drum kit, he never wasted a single piece. Most drummers just use technique an stick to only a few pieces of their kit an make it look like their doing more than they really are. Not Ginger, as an article said on this number: Baker often produced complementary rhythms on the hi-hat, ride cymbal, double bass and tom-toms simultaneously. It features sustained, imaginative drumming that would knock out a Carnegie jazz audience.
and this was the time he was addicted to smack! holy shit lol.
+MovieHound17 - Smack nothing. This was pure crank.
+Mick Rivette well he honestly believed it improved his "time" and playing.
He even manages to change into a different shirt for 10 seconds without breaking his rhythm.
Alex Harden LMAO! where, Where, WHERE?!
CooManTunes 8:13 :P
Alex Harden The film takes portions of recorded material from both concerts that night. Both Eric and Jack helpfully wore the same clothes at the 6:30 show as they did at the 8:30 show because of this - but Ginger didn't!!!
+김민기 because he changed clothes when he wasn't supposed to?
+Howard Johnston clapton also used an es335 and a firebird so that changes as well!
@brooktrout8 As a drummer in a classic rock band myself i grow up listening to Cream and the other great 60's bands Baker was and is still my fav. of all rock drummers there was no match for him. he Is the best rocker drummer to come out of the 60's and i will be 61 in a couple of days.
Ginger Baker has just passed away. The Joker ending is now a great tribute to him.
09:30 - recent scientific experiments at Berkeley have concluded that Ginger Baker is part deity, part human.
Linden Wilkie 👍🏻
Listen to that double kick work amazing
A Final Farewell to Ginger Baker a most memorable and uniquely talented dedicated musican
🔊🥁🕯⚡💣💥✌🌌💜🌹👏🌠🎛🎶🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Ginger looks high as a kite. He looks so happy.
You gotta love the narrator at the end critiquing "The Cream"---""Eight bar phrases. simple minded harmonic progressions, and nursery rhyme lyrics is ultimately unable to cope with the pent-up anger and musical aspirations of the young". Glowing review, dork........
HOW DOES ONE GET TO THIS LEVEL? I took drum classes and dropped out. I can't see Ginger ever being enrolled in drum classes. Is this an innate genetic ability?
XMIR10C It's simple. It's called PRACTICE!!!!!
+Chris Brown It's God given..
+Chris Brown THEN LETS SEE YOU DO IT AND POST IT ON RUclips
It’s a combination of sheer hard work and practice with his god given ability of “natural time” as Ginger calls it himself. I understand this as a higher level of timing and coordination that is rare to find, allowing him to manage multiple time signatures and rhythms simultaneously and instinctively knowing where he is in rhythmic progressions without always having to consciously count beats and bars.
there was never a better drummer than him.
Those bass drums sound so goood. I always thought you needed 24" or 26" bass drum sizes to achieve that big sound, but he only uses a 20 and 22 and they are shallow 12" or 14" deep!
i watched the whole video.... fuckin unbelieveable... Outstanding
baker>bonham.
I love Baker, but not a chance.
allrequiredfields Bonham had technique but couldn't swing a sack of shit! haha bakers words exactly!
Why do people always have to compare? They were both fucking amazing.
Different. Baker was a Jazz drummer first. Bonham revolutionized hard rock drumming. Both great.
*****
It's fuckin' jazz!!! As Ginger would say.
The best of the best. The other rock drummers that have a lot of fans (Bonham, Moon, Mitchell) were not in the same league as G Baker. Very few were. Thx for everything Mr. Baker. RIP
GREATEST drum solo of ALL TIME!!!!
Too bad about the horrendous, annoying camera work! Great drum solo, and we really couldn't even watch it properly. What a drag.
KungfuHeathen The frame rates of cameras back then could not keep up with his speed.
+SkilledEddie Far as I'm concerned, it wasn't the inability of the camera to keep up with his speed that I found annoying, but things like the closeups of his face and the underside of his cymbals. Backing the camera up a bit would've given me, at least, a better view of what he was doing, and since he wasn't playing the drums with his face, any closeup work should have focused on his hands.
Arbeedubya I agree but at least we got something.
How do you get that much rhythm outta your body at one time? A normal professional percussion section would need 2 people to play these parts and they would not be in this good of cync as Mr. Baker. Must be one powerful feeling to play a drum kit like that. Reincarnation: Mr. Baker minus the heroin.
Bonham was great but ginger baker was from another planet...GOAT
GINGER FUCKIN INVENTED THE "ROCK" DRUM SOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He got it from jazz!!!! And that's just fine.😀🏆👑......... This band left all in there wake!
john bonham aint got shit on ginger.
DEADNIGHTWARRIOR93 Im willing to bet his corpse alone has more shit on ginger thatn you ever could with 100 years of practice.....No Need to shit on a goldy drummer like Bonham
REST IN PEACE GINGER 😖
The fury is coherent.
I remember listening to this as a kid.......and now hearing it again makes me realize why most other drummers sounded like they are playing on empty tins of baked beans for all those years....and not even Heinz tins at that!!
The 1st illustration of the prime 17 toccata - no drummer has been able to do this
The dude had Africa running thru his veins.
Unreal, impossible, I have never heard such a powerful, full on, dynamic drum solo, ever. Absolutely intense and fluid...
Yeah, the drums sound incredible. And you have to remember this was back before the drum companies were making different, weird sizes ; they were standard sizes and there weren't many options for drum heads or mikes, either. Basically, 'off the shelf' equipment .... and listen to them! I always though Ginger had a very unique sound to his small tom toms. As many time as I heard him live, they always sounded the exactaly same.
But the best trick in this solo was how he changed shirts between 8:00 - 8:15 and back again by 8:30 without stopping , LOL :)
I've always wondered if Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich ever heard Ginger play. He stretched out what they started. Amazing drummer. He definitely had something to say musically. Also, Louis Bellson would be stunned at what Ginger could do with twin double bass drums
Simply the best!!!!! The starlight and inspiration of generations of drummers...!!!! He'll never be forgetten!!!! He brought me to rock - music...!!!!
R.I.P. Ginger Baker !!!
Q gran baterista... se fue al cielo... A tocar con Dios. Long live rock and roll.
Después de todo, Dios necesitaba clases batería, en ese caso
HE IS THE UNDISPUTED BEST I HEARD CREAM LIVE 50 YEARS AGO AND MANY GREAT DRUMMERS HAVE ENTERED THE SCENE SINCE BUT NO ONE HAS ACHIEVED GINGERS LEVEL.
Ginger Baker + Ludwig + Zildjian = Power Trio.
conclusive proof that gingers do have souls
You won't hear many people play the drums much better than that! LOVE IT! 'Ave it Ginger!
Jazz, blues , African beats, Ginger was superior to any drummer out of the Uk or Europe, only the Jazz greats in The US can rival him
Ginger Baker is the best drummer who ever lived he just moved everything on to a different level
There is no better drummer that Ginger..... It is what is, If there is, please tell me, and better yet show me, especially after you watch this, Ginger OWNED the drumset, more than any other I have ever seen.
socialdtjo76 Nope Ginger is at least billion light years ahead of Bonham. Bonham still hasn't figured out light speed yet. Bonham just uses his technique to go through the motions, which is so boring to listen too. Ginger has four limb Independence an improvises like no other. He plays Jazz with an African beat over the top. And with Toad here he often complements rhythms on the hi-hat, ride cymbal, double bass and tom-toms simultaneously. Something Bonham can't do, just like the way he can't use snycopations an polyrhythms the way Ginger does. And I don't remember Zeppelin especially Bonham having to improvise their songs for 10 min an more on every live song let alone never playing any song the same way twice.
RIP GINGER BAKER
YOU SMOKED TOO MUCH and it seems you were not very nice
but what a f drummer!! YOU INFLUENCED PHIL COLLINS ALEX VAN HALEN AND MANY MORE
IN MY CHANNEL I COVERED white room to pay a tribute to Jeff Healey first :)
you were the king of toms and double bass drum
before the others
What about his brain, it has to have break neck thought, the dexterity to connect and have the reflex's to execute, know when to drop the bomb and never over play and share musician ship also! Ginger is the MACHINE, the VITAL time keeper of this group along with MR. Jack Bruce and Eric is the butter, CREAM and the jam! and they are all in the groove" it's all about the groove. Ginger reminds me of Elvin Jones just more powerful and precise! BAR NONE! the drummers drummer along with Keith Moon - Mitch Mitchell - Neil Pert - Charlie Watts = octopus Damon Che of Don Caballero - Jerry Fuchs of Maserati = look em up and go too school and study
Prime 17 Taccata (4 limbs): 6:29 thru 6:59 - I HAVE ISSUED THE CHALLENGE TO THE JAPANESE DRUMMERS TO DO 19
Nobody, but nobody -- including the tremendous Louie Bellson, inventor of the dual bass drum kit-- could play double bass drums like Ginger. Hell, the man played rudiments with his feet!
😮!
I agree with you whole heartedly, I would like to hear from anyone who thinks there is better !
What Bruce said at the end about pop music is still very true today. People are still afraid to surprise themselves.
Rest in peace Mr. Baker! One hell of a drummer!
Simply pure God given talent and love for his craft. Toad was an amazing renditions.
It's obvious that they had at least three cameras on Ginger. I wish that they'd go back and dump all the super close tight shots, and actually show him playing the drum set. The artsy 1960s messing with the focus is tiring, and gets in the way of actually seeing Ginger's playing style. Whoever still has those reels of film, please go back and re-edit them in a more viewable fashion.
Awesome Drum Solo,and awesome Drummer,definitly a big influence on me!!
@claptonbrucebaker Not to mention I'm not sure anybody except maybe Buddy Rich, some of the other other jazz greats could play with sustained energy like this for ten minutes. This solo has no relaxation period in it, it is continuously physically demanding and rhythmically complex.. Going even five minutes playing stuff like this is physically demanding. Ginger is the perfect fusion of a jazz and a rock drummer. even crazier is that he plays both styles with his limbs at once
Freakin Awesome Drum Solo! Is there any better than Ginger Baker? I think not!
Wow, Ginger, you never fail to amaze me - what a show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite remarkable 😮😮😮😮😮😮What an incredible performance
rest in peace Mr. Jack Bruce thanks for the tunes couldnt have made it through my youth without some cream love you man heavens band just got a whole lot better
Simply the best!
EPIC, FUCKING EPIC!!!
man that 3-4 minute section is just fucking monstrous to me.
There will Never be another Mr.Baker .
What half wit voted this down? doesn't know nothing about talent, the greatest rock drummer of all time Ginger Baker.
I picture tribal people running over mountains and waves smashing lightning
RIP Ginger Baker :( Great drummer! Upea rumpali!
hi there was no drum solo, in rock, UNTIL GINGER BAKER, INVENTED IT GO BIGG REDD !!!
I was playing in a band at the same time when this last concert took place and Ginger was my hero then and still is. But I am still stunned by this great powerful performance!!!
4.16 power blast, Ginger Baker absolute master of four limb independence he sounds like a fucking drum orchestra
RIP Jack and Ginger. Love Cream.
the most amazing bit was at 8.13 when he managed to change his shirt without dropping a beat
R.I.P. - No other rock drummer came even close. (John Bonham? Please! Bonham was considered "great" by those people who's older brothers were just a wee bit too young to have purchased Cream records, and thus were unwise to overrated Bonham's 2nd rate cribbing of Baker's powerhouse style -- hear Baker's "Toad" with Cream to confirm this).
Bonzo had his own talents that were different than Baker's. He had a very unique thing he did with his right foot and will be judged mostly on his studio musical output in the Zeppelin catalog, which is truly great. But as a soloist, he just wasn't that good. That Moby Dick solo is long and meandering. It's not easy to hold an audience's attention with a drum solo, and Baker was truly the king of the rock drum solo. Actually, he invented it.
ginger baker was boss
I find it insane that these guys were all still under 30, Clapton was only like 23! That’s crazy they made music like this at that young of an age?! It’s funny how people say young people don’t appreciate music like this these days... but these musicians were even younger lol!
The drumming is exciting enough without the stupid special effects.
AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING PERCUSSIONIST
Sure can hear the Blakey influence. Baker takes it next level.
Of you listen carefuly ,and put músic at his solos in your mind, you understand what he's playing and why he Is the best rock drummer.
Wow, this music is still good. I love listening to it all the time and I really enjoy watching the videos. They are so good.
Ginger is in a league of his own. Phenomenal playing.
He would challenge any drummer to a drum battle
The pioneer. The stuff we take for granted today he was creating and exploring. No question the best ever. The universe will never catch up to Ginger Baker.
A jazz drummer playing rock-blues. Ginger was the best.
He's devilishly good, isn't he? Wow...