The Games Before Minecraft

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

Комментарии • 31

  • @imacardboardbox
    @imacardboardbox 9 месяцев назад +12

    Rivet how did you make me cry in a video about Minecraft and its little puzzle pieces? Just, how

  • @SoicAngellis
    @SoicAngellis 9 месяцев назад +16

    This- this showing how only NOTCH could have made Minecraft- is why his name should still be properly there in the credits and not shuttled away into a dark corner, no matter what his current shitty proclivities may be.
    Edit: Plus I feel like the whole 'Lightning in a bottle' thing just shows how tragic it is that Notch seemingly lost all his love for gamedev due to the shadow of Minecraft. People always talk about 'catching lightning in a bottle'- but what happens when you weren't trying to do it, and it blows up the bottle? No more bottle to gather that precious rainwater, no more passion for gamedev and love for it as a simple hobby.. leaving Notch where he is today. Rich, sure, but his passions are gone. He's a husk.

  • @sting9849
    @sting9849 9 месяцев назад +7

    Loved the video, also "Foolish pontification" made me laugh a little too hard

  • @sabakandashvili5373
    @sabakandashvili5373 9 месяцев назад +3

    I just can't find the right words to describe how this video made me feel. You, sir, are criminally underrated! As a person who has been playing Minecraft for over 12 years and a game developer hobbyist, this video was incredibly emotional and inspiring. You clearly put a lot of passion into this. Thank you.

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for sharing your feelings on the video! Hope to see you here again. And best wishes in your game development endeavors!

  • @marshmallowbiscuit4553
    @marshmallowbiscuit4553 9 месяцев назад +2

    Okay so I'm not the only person who fixates on Minecraft during winter-
    I love the videos I've seen of yours, you have a creative way of making them.

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      You're not alone, Minecraft Christmas is real, and thank you!

  • @2petergriffinfan
    @2petergriffinfan 9 месяцев назад +1

    The lightening in a bottle quote is surprisingly profound…

  • @senorsasquatch4859
    @senorsasquatch4859 9 месяцев назад +1

    Randomly got this suggested. Glad I clicked. Great video!

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      I'm glad you clicked too! And I'm more glad you commented

  • @Crimson-Pasta-And-Cheese
    @Crimson-Pasta-And-Cheese 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love the appearance of the video, very well done and beautiful.

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you, it took a lot of design work to get this format up and running

  • @greemole
    @greemole 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great video, I'm glad the algorithm showed me this, keep up with the good work!! 😄

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks a lot! I'm glad the algorithm showed it too, it typically doesn't like me lol.

  • @ericbles
    @ericbles 9 месяцев назад +1

    Your Rupert video's always make me so calm

  • @Leyton90
    @Leyton90 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love everything about this video. I always enjoy finding a new creator with such great ideas. Please keep making content like this.

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much for watching it. Plenty on the backlog! And thank you for commenting, the affirmation means lot.

  • @Freddabeast-lx6bd
    @Freddabeast-lx6bd 9 месяцев назад +8

    You have great content how do you not have more subscribers

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks! I think the algorithm doesn't like the variety of content I crank outta this channel

    • @ericbles
      @ericbles 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@RivetingMaterial it does like ice berg videos

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад +2

      @@ericbles it does Eric, but that's a saturated market!

    • @enricuhl
      @enricuhl 6 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe Riv is just out here, catching the rain?

  • @realkekz
    @realkekz 9 месяцев назад +4

    I'm always self conscious about dropping long comments on youtube, nobody ever seems to read them, but I feel like I need to now:
    The subject of this video has been on my mind for years, and this vid put together a bunch of thoughts that had been trying to coalesce in that time. I dislike the movement to distance Minecraft from Notch, I hate the Hatsune Miku made Minecraft meme, because to me it feels reductive at best and escapist at worst. I do not like the notion of disconnecting the artist from the art, because art is inherently formed by the artist, his interests, his thoughts, his past actions, his mind. And with a game like Minecraft this is especially true, as you've shown in your video. Taking away Notch's relationship with Minecraft takes away everything that Minecraft is, it destroys the core idea of the game, and the longer the game has been run by different people, the further it has gotten from those roots. Something I think about all the time is how lonely and sometimes dreary old Minecraft was, how scary the nights could be. The thrill and terror of the dark was shared by caves, pitch black and just crawling with enemies lurking right around the corner, as you venture into the deep to dig for resources to protect yourself. Minecraft nowadays is billed as a sandbox game with a survival and adventure mode, but this has not always been the case, but so much of the original design philosophy of old Minecraft is built upon the confluence of adventure, survival and sandbox, you're the hero of your own story that you made up as you went along in a hostile world. I don't want to be that guy that whines about games getting softer, but Minecraft had a hard edge to it once upon a time that has been smoothed down. That's not to say that it was some grimdark setting, but the friendliest faces you were going to see were the mindless animals and the sun. The only structures you could seek safety in were your own, it was you against a giant world that wanted you dead, and that pressure motivated action, which made it such a thrilling, awesome, and fun experience.
    Today, there are villagers to trade with and their villages to seek refuge in, the darkness doesn't permeate your soul, you can get a stack of diamonds in under an hour, and there is a lot more content to play around with and to challenge you. But it has gotten away from that core challenge that creates adventure, the soul of Minecraft. In the old days, building something big in survival felt like a triumph, because you had to fight an uphill battle against the world just to get there. Building was the end game of Minecraft, now building is the midgame, and ocean temples, woodland mansions, the wither, that is the late game. It fundamentally destroys the loop of the game that Notch made. This change is why many people are dissatisfied with Minecraft in its current form, but also why so many people love modern Minecraft. Minecraft now leans much harder into pure sandbox or pure adventure, and hardly dips at all into survival as food is abundant and mobs are considerably easier or skippable. Old Minecraft tactfully mixed all three together, but now the game is sort of unharmonious. The missing piece that a lot of people overlook in the controversy of why Minecraft feels different and isn't how they remembered is Notch. His Minecraft is not the game that exists now, even if the game is 95% the same as it was at its core, it's the other 5% that made it what it was, the structure, the design philosophy, the gameplay loops. This is a great dive into his attitudes toward game development, and shows how everything he did coalesced into the game that we love, but it outgrew him, and is no longer the same game, for better and for worse.

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      Hey there, first of all when it comes to long comments make no mistakes: I love them! Believe it or not I get nervous to post videos, probably for very much the same reasons. I'm not sure if other people care about the subject matter or how I choose to format it, ect. Long comments like yours help the video feel more like a dialogue between myself and all the wonderful people that watch the content.
      In regards to your actual comment, I tend to agree. I think it's really interesting to see notchs comfort zone is in these tiny game jam experiments. Minecraft used to be quite simple. And updates were extremely calculated adjustments to gameplay. I remember back in like 2014 I was talking to a friend and they said something like "someday vanilla Minecraft will feel like tekkit or ftb" and while that isn't completely true, I think it does speak to a game that can only really grow outwardly. I do think that notch was ultimately not comfortable working on something like that, a game that just gets a little bigger, getting more features every year. Notch likes to keep things small, efficient. All the textures in the game used to be in one image file. No hunger bar, inventory size was based on arithmetic, ect. Minecraft outgrowing him was pretty much inevitable, because as much as we enjoy that game in hindsight, I can't honestly say I want to go back. We've traded that liminal, bare bones, one of a kind experience for something more saturated, more adjustable. With a higher quality of life and a constant buzz around what will come next. Minecraft is a game about innovation, about finding new ways to do things. Minecraft was destined to belong to everyone, even without the Microsoft deal, it was never going to stay "notchs little game" it's just unfortunate that between the attention and the money it seems to have steam rolled his interest in game development as a whole.

    • @realkekz
      @realkekz 3 дня назад

      ​@@RivetingMaterial
      "Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
      Hot ashes for trees?
      Hot air for a cool breeze?
      Cold comfort for change?
      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war, for a lead role in a cage?"

  • @sapoeysap
    @sapoeysap 9 месяцев назад +1

    oh, this is so well-crafted - i feel like it's knowledge i know about at the back of my mind but to have it presented to me in such a tender way considering minecraft is so pleasing.

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад +1

      Just remembered you from the liminal point and click video, thanks for sticking with me.

    • @sapoeysap
      @sapoeysap 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@RivetingMaterial Honestly really glad I did - your videos are super refreshing and so well crafted :)

    • @RivetingMaterial
      @RivetingMaterial  9 месяцев назад

      @@sapoeysap thank you very much, that means a lot to me. You're always welcome to join the community discord if you want to be notified on streams and new videos, and otherwise chat with the rest of the community if you'd like. There's a link in the about section of my channel, and in the description of this one, but no pressure either way!