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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @philiproark3102
    @philiproark3102 8 месяцев назад +4

    The MOST comprehensive teaching of this that i have seen.Excellent

  • @VasyaIvanovichPupkin
    @VasyaIvanovichPupkin 5 месяцев назад +6

    You're a good man! I do not have enough vocabulary to describe how far and beyon this effort is compared to other typical explanations out there. Biggest component being the real world example on your own vehicle and not just making engine noises with your mouth. Thank you very much and please continue on the same path. It does not go unnoticed!

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you sir! I really appreciate it! I hope it helped!

  • @bryanjobe7213
    @bryanjobe7213 2 года назад +7

    Boom! My 454 is running rich. Smoking and sounds like it’s got a cam in it. Great video!!!

  • @ZZ-bt2jr
    @ZZ-bt2jr 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you so much for this video. I have watched so many carb tuning vids, hours worth. Many are so long winded, yet I learn barely anything really useful. Most of them talk to you like you're new to tuning carbs which is good, BUT they also leave out critical information that someone new to carbs wouldn't know, such as how to hear rich VS lean. Many will say "if youre running rich here's what you do" without giving any info on what to listen and watch for. You covered a lot of info I've never heard before that is great for beginners. Some people think they're good teachers but they're not quite suited for it. You sir are a decent teacher.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  9 месяцев назад

      I really appreciate it man. Makes me feel like I'm actually helping someone with my videos!

    • @ZZ-bt2jr
      @ZZ-bt2jr 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@NightWrencher you most definitely are! I say this to all my favorite youtubers: I love watching you do what you love, and I love learning as a byproduct of that! Keep doing you my dude, that's what's drawing the crowd in. You rock

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  9 месяцев назад

      Thank man, that means a lot 👍

  • @johnb2674
    @johnb2674 2 года назад +3

    Bad ass truck! When I was 16 I got a 73 4wd power wagon. Wish I still had it.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад +1

      Thanks man, this truck will be a beast after its done 👊

  • @cHAOs9
    @cHAOs9 2 года назад +3

    Exactly the info i was searching for. A lot of related details with it for context. Well done.

  • @DogMad1200
    @DogMad1200 3 месяца назад +2

    I run a Holley 650 double pumper on a '64 Merc 352CID and have gone with about 3/4 turn on mixture screws

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 месяца назад

      3/4 fronts and 1/2 rear has always been the magic numbers for me.

  • @Corolla_Beau
    @Corolla_Beau 2 года назад +4

    Hmmm!!! Exactly what information I’ve been searching for!! Great explanation!! Been trying to tune my carb and it’s been popping in the exhaust and stuttering when trying to give it gas….. I’m gonna try this tomorrow mahalo nui!

  • @omarlovejoy9086
    @omarlovejoy9086 2 года назад +5

    You explained rich and lean perfectly

  • @bcraiders11
    @bcraiders11 Год назад +1

    Dropping that knowledge. Thank you man. Best explanation ive seen yet. Been tuning my 1850 on a 350. And everything lines up with need more fuel. So stoked on the carbed LS. boss has one lying around. Maybe its time.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      You can get that 350 to spin like a top. The older SBC were still pretty good motors. Update the ignition, tune the carb and she'll be perfect

  • @bcraiders11
    @bcraiders11 Год назад +1

    Forgot the glow plugs bud. Hahaha. Dude sick truck.

  • @leinadalan
    @leinadalan 3 года назад +2

    Ok then, I'm going to reset tomorrow, back to stock. Even tho engine was dynoed to find jet combo. Everything, iab, ifr, jets. Only thing I won't mess w is PV. 4.5 in now. Makes like 9 to 10".
    Great vid man.

    • @infamousnova
      @infamousnova 3 года назад +1

      If it was dyno tuned put it back in that configuration

    • @leinadalan
      @leinadalan 3 года назад

      Engine dyno, not wheel.
      Still back to that?
      Also, are IAB supposed to be the same size prim and sec?

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад +1

      Engine dyno and wheel dyno will have a different tune so your best bet is to go circuit by circuit. The iabs are usually square front to back

  • @leinadalan
    @leinadalan 3 года назад +3

    Nice. Still trying to get my turd to run better.
    Just got a new hp body. May try it tomorrow.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад +1

      That'll be sweet man. It'll throw your tune out the window though. Keep everything else as it is and just swap the main body and see how it responds. Figure out if you gotta go rich or lean and then go circuit by circuit.

  • @ZPDSurvival
    @ZPDSurvival 2 года назад +1

    Great Video. I will have to watch again. I am completely lost at this point tuning a 1974 Honda XL250. Going to check timing and dwell. Haven't done that yet. Played around with jetting and needle so much that I am getting closer. Taking a break and making sure timing and points are set correct.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад +2

      I'm not too familiar with that engine but the stock settings for that carb wont work? Also, with any engine with adjustible timing, ignition should always be set first.

    • @ZPDSurvival
      @ZPDSurvival 2 года назад

      @@NightWrencher Thank You. It's been years since I worked on my old Volkswagens. This bike is taking me back there. Enjoy your day.

    • @beeasy4360
      @beeasy4360 2 года назад

      I put a wide band 02 on mine said screw it really helps on tuning it in great videos

  • @JimmyMakingitwork
    @JimmyMakingitwork 5 месяцев назад

    Truck is gonna be cool, headed there for sure!

  • @chiefjoe528
    @chiefjoe528 3 года назад +3

    I wish you could tune mine. I have a Holley 80457-2 4 barrel. Mine starts fine, revs fine without a load. When I drive the hills of San Francisco, she is struggling to even getting up the hill. Even if I put the engine into a lower gear, it’s not getting better. 350 Chevy. The car has electronic ignition and new plugs and wires. Feels like I can’t get more power from it. No backfiring either. Thoughts.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад +2

      I have that same carburetor. Its a 600 single feed VS. First of all, you need to make sure you have enough timing in it to it runs right. You want at least 13 degrees of timing at idle and 32-36 max at WOT so you can get the best road maners. Aside from that, I'm willing to bet your carb is running too rich. Usually if you go into a lower gear, the AFR will go richer with less load and if you go up a gear and lug the engine, it would go lean. Second, since youre not getting a back fire, that would also indicate that its not running lean. If you can, drive with a vacuum gauge, see if youre getting below 7" of vacuum going up a hill since that would open the power valve and pull more fuel. Pull a plug, and if its jet black, youll be able to pin point it.

    • @Aceman597
      @Aceman597 8 месяцев назад

      Check power valve.

  • @WindOnMyWings
    @WindOnMyWings 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, your advices are very useful

  • @matthatesford
    @matthatesford 7 месяцев назад +1

    At 11:23 you talk about putting a hand over the choke primary. I have a Holley 750 (Barry Grant variant) on my 383 stroker. 10.7:1, pretty rowdy cam. No choke plate but when I block off the primary the motor dies.
    Showing symptoms of a rich condition but afr is close to perfect. 13.5 ish at idle and high 12s across the board all the way up. I'm already jetted down lower than I think I should for this motor, I was even lower with similar results but currently at 72 primaries, 77 secondaries. Acc pumps are 15 thousandths off at idle, 5.5 PV, needle and seats good, float adjusted at bottom of sight hole, 31 squirters front and back. Valves checked and lash set. It's not like it's running horribly, afr is good but getting some exhaust pop in the higher range and a little smokey (fuel smoke). Any ideas?

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  7 месяцев назад +1

      So heres a tip. If you have a cam with a decent amount of overlap, your AFR gauge will read false lean at idle and low RPM. The only way to tune that would be with a tach or with a vacuum gauge. First make sure you have enough timing at idle for the cam(tune it the same way, with RPM or Vacuum). Second, set the preliminary idle speed and tune the idle mixture. As you dial it in, the RPM will climb, and once you go too far, itll dip back down. I like the idle a hair rich to compensate for different weather conditions. As for the popping, if it pops on high RPM decel, you probably have the idle speed set too high, you might have an exhaust leak or you're running too rich. If the exhaust pops on consistant acceleration into the upper RPM and you feel the car hesitate, its lean or the plug gap is too wide. If the exhaust pops while you're accelerating in the upper RPM, you're too rich or have an exhaust leak. Hope this helps.

    • @matthatesford
      @matthatesford 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@NightWrencher timing has been dialed, lightest springs with 38 total and it's very happy there. I did end up finding my popping culprit, #8 plug was closed up and sending unburnt fuel through to be ignited in the collector, must have happened during my last plug read. Don't remember hitting it on anything going in but alas, that issue is fixed.
      Still pig fat, blowing puffs of black smoke on throttle cracks and raw fuel smell at idle. I'm gonna look at my transition slot and adjust my secondary blades tomorrow. Plus mess around more with acc pump cams again. I'm thinking my transition slot might be too uncovered with my 1000 rpm idle, cause my idle circuits don't have as much adjustment in them as I think they should.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  7 месяцев назад

      If your carb is a 2 corner idle carb, do not try to open the secondaries at idle. You're just going to wreck distribution and lower your idle vacuum. 1000rpm at idle is way too high. Even my 73 charger with a 294/294 advertised on a 108 LSA cam shaft, idles smooth at 750 rpm hot. Reset your idle screws and start over from scratch. You want that front throttle plate as closed as possible. Its doesnt "need" to be square but it definately cant be taller than a square.

    • @matthatesford
      @matthatesford 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@NightWrencher FYI this car is a bracket car, will spend most of its life doing the 1/4 mile. So I don't care about driveability, just peak power without putting holes in pistons lol

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  7 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/user/shorts_Fve1wtlIOc?si=uIAn6OJWU1n2-kv0 heres a video of my car idling

  • @robpeters5204
    @robpeters5204 3 года назад +2

    Great explanation!
    Thanks.

  • @shorty5346
    @shorty5346 Год назад

    Very interesting although mines not as simple as that my Toyota will only run at 28 turns on my mixture screw but if I try to turn the screw in the engine just starts to die so I seem to be stuck at twenty eight turns

  • @goober2021
    @goober2021 Год назад

    Great vid man

  • @piercesean82
    @piercesean82 Год назад

    Very informative, thanks a lot.

  • @user-mr3mf8lo7y
    @user-mr3mf8lo7y 3 года назад +2

    Hi great video(s). Much appreciated the efford in making those. Wondering if you kindly make a comment on the situation I have with my motorbike/carburator. 250cc. Mikuni-34. The carb is super clean, jets and all. No air leak. However, it stalls after about 30 seconds on idle either on cold start, or, at traffic stops. When driving non-stop/high-rev it is perfectly fine. Perhaps, it is the float level? I played with it but did not help. Should I change pilot jet to something else even though Yamaha indicates 47.5 on manual? Any comment? Thanks a bunch.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад

      I dont have too much experience with motorcycle carbs but you can try covering the air inlet to block most of the air from going in. If the condition gets worse, youre running rich, if it gets better, youre running lean. I'm willing to bet your idle circuit is running lean.

  • @jovanitorres8128
    @jovanitorres8128 Год назад +1

    I'm running rich should I downsize the jet n PV. Thanks for the video

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад +1

      It depends what circuit is rich. Main jet and PV had no effect on idle. Idle and PV has no effect on cruise, etc.

    • @jovanitorres8128
      @jovanitorres8128 Год назад +1

      Idle is kind of high try to adjust but nothing stock carburetor had it for some years never did nothing

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад +1

      If its a holley, I have a video on how to set the idle. If its not a holley, I wouldnt be able to tell you where to look. Just make sure you dont have any vacuum leaks

    • @jovanitorres8128
      @jovanitorres8128 Год назад +1

      @@NightWrencher yes it's a Holley going to start messing around with that Jets and look for any vacuum leaks

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад +1

      Good luck man, its tricky but just go 1 at a time and you'll get it 👍

  • @davidrowland2354
    @davidrowland2354 11 месяцев назад

    My idle air fuel ratio is perfect it leans out whenever I get on the gas

  • @rivermetal
    @rivermetal 3 месяца назад +1

    Hello, my setup is a Ford straight six, turbo, intercooler, Quick fuel blow through carb and MSD.
    Also installed A/F gauge. It reads around 14 and change at idle. Running out of adjustment on mixture screws and it’s still running way too fat. Do I need to look elsewhere??
    Thank you

    • @rivermetal
      @rivermetal 3 месяца назад +1

      Initial timing maybe?

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 месяца назад

      Hey man, I would definately make sure your initial and total timing is set before you start playing with the AFR because the timing will change the idle vacuum, idle RPM and Idle mixture. Your issue might lie in a few things, 1) possible vacuum leak 2) fuel float level set too low 3) IFR too small 4) low speed air bleeds too big. If your car is an automatic, you can try putting the car in Drive, hold the brake, and start leaning into the throttle and listen for hesitation or popping. That can be an indication of too small of an IFR

  • @mailbox_money1197
    @mailbox_money1197 Год назад

    Nice explanations. Thanks

  • @Rodeshion
    @Rodeshion 4 месяца назад +1

    When accelerating and getting hesitation it can also be a rich condition

  • @archangelx2x097
    @archangelx2x097 2 года назад +1

    Carb newbie here. I have the same carb on my 74 Plymouth. Why do we adjust the front screws and not the back ones?

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад +2

      I thought I had already answered this comment but I guess not. I don't think you have the same carb as me because my carb is not a 4 corner idle carb so it does not have rear idle screws. I have an idle adjustment video on a 4 corner idle and I do go through and adjust all 4.

    • @archangelx2x097
      @archangelx2x097 2 года назад +1

      @@NightWrencher thank you man! Do you have a link for that video? I'd like to give it a watch. Appreciate the help!

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад +1

      No problem, here it is ruclips.net/video/gW55D00zpvg/видео.html

  • @joegomez478
    @joegomez478 2 года назад +1

    How much engine vacuum should a solid engine show (351 w/ 4bbl Holley carb) I was tunning it for a friend but could only get 16.5 vacuum...86 ford f150 351 crate engine. It is running smooth though.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад

      Theres no specific number. Vacuum changes depending on the cam. Just dial in the timing and idle mixture for max vacuum and thats what it will be.

    • @joegomez478
      @joegomez478 2 года назад

      @@NightWrencher cool thanks....where are you located...I'm in El Paso,tx, really like your channel....thanks again.

  • @penmaster615
    @penmaster615 Год назад

    Just found your video, i have a 350 with flat top pistons. A holley 600 carb, it sounds like a cam in it when idleing but its not that much of a cam. I tryed leaning it 1/8 turn balanced and it wanted to die at lights and was stumbling. I put it back richer and it was ok, but my plugs are dark? I just got a vacuum gauge, what should it read when correct tuned?

  • @lr22same47
    @lr22same47 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff, thank you.

  • @johnnyrichard1631
    @johnnyrichard1631 3 года назад +1

    What would make one side lean one side rich. Basic same set up as yours.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад +1

      If you mean left and right, there could be an issue in the carb where you might have some junk blocking the fuel on the lean side. On a single plane you could get left side lean/right side rich or viseversa but in a dual plane, if you have an issue with left and right, something else is going on

  • @davidm2778
    @davidm2778 Год назад

    Awesome video...

  • @Truther00
    @Truther00 2 года назад +1

    Could you do a video on the holly sniper

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад

      I would but I do not own a holley sniper system.

  • @mkepler5861
    @mkepler5861 Год назад

    thank you that was very helpful!!! thumbs up, and I was already subbed!!!

  • @donblue3725
    @donblue3725 Год назад +1

    very helpful

  • @retromeatball4402
    @retromeatball4402 2 года назад +1

    im just trying to get my holley 2099 carb tuned on my 65 Rambler Classic 😭😭

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад

      Should be pretty easy. Make sure to set your ignition timing before you start messing with the carb and then watch my holley idle video 👍

  • @abmcd9381
    @abmcd9381 Год назад +1

    Great vid as usual!
    Im having a problem where Ive dialed it in as far as smooth running and 800 rpm but am still running rich (smoke in the exhaust, stinging eyes, carbon on the plugs). Ive got a demon 850 on a 454 with a mild cam. I also did the air restriction test covering the air flow and the rpm drops off and stalls. Each corner idle mix is 1/2 turn out.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад +1

      Depending on the lope of the cam, it could be normal, but what is your timing set at idle?

    • @abmcd9381
      @abmcd9381 Год назад +1

      @@NightWrencher Ill let you know shortly...day or so. Typically what would you say it should be all in and at idle?

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      All in lands somewhere in the 30-36 range. Idle around 15-20

    • @abmcd9381
      @abmcd9381 Год назад +1

      ​@@NightWrencher Im at 26 at idle.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      That seems like a lot but as it starts up like its supposed to, its ok. Do you have a 4 corner idle carb?

  • @tdtrecordsmusic
    @tdtrecordsmusic Год назад

    awesome thnx

  • @1marcelfilms
    @1marcelfilms Год назад

    My generator sounds like that popping sound at idle.

  • @arthurhill2388
    @arthurhill2388 3 года назад +1

    I thought the idle circuit was for idle only .. cause once your throttle opens past the idle circuit it is no more

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад +1

      Thats not quite true. All the circuits stack on top of each other the idle circuit makes less of an impact with more throttle but it still makes a difference in the tune.

    • @arthurhill2388
      @arthurhill2388 3 года назад +1

      @@NightWrencher but yet if your idle is to high and the the thortles blades are past the circuit slots you'll never get your air fuel set right and also your jetting will also play part with your power valve as for tuning also for lean or rich vacuum also has a play there also

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  3 года назад +1

      Biggest impact the idle feed will have on the tune is in the transition circuit. Once you go into the main circuit, so much air is flowing through the engine that the small amount of fuel from both idle and transition wont make too much of an difference. The point of the video was not to show you how to fix a lean or rich condition on your carb, it was so you can identify a lean or rich condition based on sound reguardless of what circuit you're in. If you want to tune individual circuits, I have seperate videos on each of them in my holley carb secrets playlist

    • @arthurhill2388
      @arthurhill2388 3 года назад +1

      Not trying to down any thing you say I'm still learning also my self ... Keep up the research as I am also it all a bit tricky to rap my head around specially with a modified engines I have a lowered 89 Silverado with 383ci 750 double pumper and a 60 olds with a 454 bored 100ths 477ci with a 850 double pumper fun fun fun .. head ache head ache head ache ... Lol got to love em though...

    • @arthurhill2388
      @arthurhill2388 3 года назад +1

      @@NightWrencher I'll check em out thanks

  • @Kabeeb
    @Kabeeb Год назад +1

    Mine sounds like it has a cam but also pops and hesitates 😭

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      Idle could be rich and part throttle could be lean. Not enough timing is also an issue

    • @Kabeeb
      @Kabeeb Год назад +1

      @@NightWrencher what would cause that? Also I have a volvo 340 and the timing cannot be adjusted

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      @@Kabeeb You would have to identify exactly whats happening and then adjust that in your carburetor. So for example, if you car is running rich/lean at idle, you would have to reset your idle speed and idle mixture screws and tune them to accordingly. If your carburetor is non tunable, and your timing can't be adjusted then there might be something wrong inside your carburetor or you have and outside force like fuel pressure, regulator problems, internal leaking, things like that.

  • @steverose2405
    @steverose2405 Год назад

    You need tighter shots of the carburetor; I don’t know what screws you’re turning.

    • @jimpanzer07
      @jimpanzer07 7 месяцев назад

      idle mixture screws, usually 2 or 4 screws that look the same

  • @myrtistaylor5759
    @myrtistaylor5759 2 месяца назад +1

    Wrong. Running lean is more dangerous than running rich. Engine runs hotter if its too Lean. Running slightly rich is actually preferable especially in winter time

  • @infamousnova
    @infamousnova 3 года назад +1

    I know mine is running rich at idle lol!🤭🤨😐😔😔🥺😤😤😤

  • @Waltwalt0
    @Waltwalt0 6 месяцев назад

    God bless you always in Yahweh name

  • @lollipop84858
    @lollipop84858 Месяц назад

    Lol, by sound. Lol

  • @chrisnew2752
    @chrisnew2752 5 месяцев назад +1

    Oh no a ls in a mopar??? Ahhhhh

  • @austindoud273
    @austindoud273 2 года назад

    All y'all just need to buy a wideband

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад +2

      Well a wideband is only half the story. On rowdy cams with a lot of duration, a wideband is pretty much useless at low load/ low rpms because of the amount of air passing to the exhaust during overlap. Also, if your o2 sensor is going out, itll tend to read rich so if you know what to look for, you can verify if the wide band is reading right or not. My favorite tuning device is a wideband but theres a time and place for everything.

    • @rogerdodger6888
      @rogerdodger6888 2 года назад +1

      @@NightWrencher This must be why I gave up on my wideband, started over the old school way,

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад

      Yeah, its tricky sometimes 👍

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  2 года назад

      Yeah, its tricky sometimes 👍

  • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
    @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Год назад +1

    There's no "secrets" here. Just the basics I already know. I can't get my Holley 750 to idle clean. It's running rich like a pig at idle and I can't clean it up.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      How much ignition timing are you running at idle?

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Год назад +1

      @@NightWrencher I had it at 6 but I bumped it up to 10 and it seems way better. I got the carb tuned so it's not running rich. My idle between park and drive are VERY drastic though so now I'm trying to figure that out.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад

      I would add another 5 degrees of inital timing or move your vacuum advance to the manifold

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Год назад

      @@NightWrencher vac advance is already at manifold. The problem with advancing, seems to make it much harder to turn over and the starter, battery and wires are all new.

    • @NightWrencher
      @NightWrencher  Год назад +1

      Usually you can get away with 13-15 at idle before the start starts to struggle. Low RPM in drive can be too tight of converter for the cam, idle too lean or not enough base timing