Habs Rebuild is COMPLETE, Seriously. Demidov Goes OFF, Marty St. Louis Factor is REAL
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
- Montreal Canadiens rebuild complete? Shayne Gaumond of the Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro thinks so. Ivan Demidov has 5 points in 6 games, Canadiens training camp, Canadiens prospect showdown in Montreal.
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The Reinbacher haters must not know puck. He looked like and NHL defenseman out there and did what he will do for the next 15 years - play big minutes, lay the body occasionally, make good decisions, and break the puck out well. Having a guy like that makes the game easier and smoother for everyone on the ice.
I'd say this on Reinbacher : It's very easy for the vast majority of people to notice the offensive flashy hockey stuff but to notice the finest defensive qualities it takes a dedication most people don't ever bother with.
Many who don't know much about the game will think a defender real good when they see the guy block a shot laying his body down on the ice but they won't even notice the other defender on the same team who would never have had to fall down cause he was better positioned, more reactive, skated in strides, used his stickhandling, space awareness, body work etc and prevented the opponents from getting those dangerous shooting opportunities in the first place plus created the exit leading to the next offense while the other idiot was still busy getting back on his feet.
Which of the 2 would you want on your team ?
Thank you!
We need and have a shutdown defender
Reinbacher had a better points per game in his draft year playing against men than Seider, Heiskanen, Josi and Just a little under Hedman and Dahlin… 0.48 PPG for Reinbacher in his draft year, 0.49 PPG for Dahlin and Hedman… Seider, Heiskanen, Josi were all in the 0.23+ PPG range… The offensive abilities for Reinbacher are 100% there… I’m not saying he will be better than any of the players i mentioned but it’s a good indicator that the offensive talent is there.
The players I liked the most Other than Hutson and Mailloux, because their play overall was through the roof, were Engstrom; Poise, Reads the ice well, Skates like butter. The Thorpe/Tuch/Xhekaj Line looks like a future physical productive BIG 4th line, Beck was good every zones. Charles Savoie went under the Radar for many people despite getting 3 apples, he looked good to me for an invited kid. Finally, David….. Reinbacher was pretty solid, could’ve used his shot a little more tbh but I liked his overall game. Keep up the great work guys we love you!!
This rebuild is not about winning the Stanley cup, it’s about building a dinasty for years to come. So although it upsets me when HUGObhang on to players who are clearly not good enough ( Baron for example ) , they always get something in return ( Honda Civic ) because every draft pick can lead to a star player ( Hudson ).
Shayne and Drew, the fiesta. BTW Shayne and Grant rocks.
Shayne, I've been saying the same thing than you since the draft. The rebuild is over. The next phase has begun. The "build" stage. They have their core set. Now they need to develop and build that core. Sure, they might have to tweak their roster if some players don't pan out but if most of them do, I feel they still have the pieces now to build a winning team. All we need to be is patient now. Cheers!
The rebuild is not close to being over
The rebuild is over. Habs have all tge pieces now its just a matter of putting them together and growing. Mtl is officially stacked they have lots development ahead of them but the rebuild is over
It took colorado and tampa 10 years almost it will be a non stop push to the top for the next fewwww years
@@alainbelso the rebuild is not over. There’s no guarantee that it’s I’ll even work. Most drafted players are not even in the NHL yet. There’s still lots of work to do. It’s not just drafting players
@@jordanhogan6511 we don’t know that. They’re not even in the NHL yet, they don’t have a bottom six, they don’t have a true #1 goalie. Prospects are just that , prospects, no guarantees .
Great show guys, I saw Mesar play in Kitchener many time, he will be great...give him the time
Great? I’m sure Drew now thinks you are one of the wisest contributors to this website. 😂😂. But, I hope you are right….make me eat my words…i don’t mind….God has “allowed” for me to be “beaten up” often in order to develop a quality He really likes in His children- humility! 😇
Offensively Reinbacher looked good in the games against Toronto.. He was creative, He got a nasty passing play that ended being a goal, Another that was almost a goal, Kid has soft hands for a D his size… He’s never going to be a PPG D lol, but he’s going to be very important to this team just like Aaron Ekblad was and is for Florida… I can see Reinbacher being a 39-57 point Two Way D who has an elite ability to close on players when defending a rush…
Habs fans think low of him now, But only when this team is in the playoffs they will realize the impact he will have for this team… Other Habs fans who know about prospects know that Reinbacher is a super solid piece and now having Demidov, Reinbacher was the right pick 100%…
It’s okay that some fans don’t have the time to watch prospects or follow them in general, But you should be watching with that in mind, You likely do not know about Reinbacher or the potential he is showing…
we should be happy that this has played out this way lol Demidov and Reinbacher is better than having Michkov and Dickinson for example, Dickinson has more offensive upside sure, But Reinbacher’s defensive upside is soooo elite and he’s still gonna give you 39-57 points one season or in another season…
Michkov has only seen playoffs in the MHL, And he only had a 1.00 points per game in the MHL playoffs 27 points in 27 total games played…
Demidov in the MHL had a 1.52 PPG 27 games played 16 goals, 41 points when it mattered… far better production in a playoff setting than Michkov had, But Michkov did have 18 goals total..
This has worked out perfectly for Montreal they got a Russian superstar who is bigger, Has better hands, Better IQ, Crazy shot but not as lethal as Michkov but still elite for the NHL, Demidov has better edges, Better playmaking, Demidov is the TRUE triple threat, not Michkov… Michkov will still be an unbelievable player but I think Demidov will be better. We also get a Right shot D that can eat a lot of minutes and still have potential to produce, Amazing defensive abilities, If Reinbacher is available in 2024 I believe Chicago takes him over Levshunov, And I’m not the only one who thinks this.. Habs fans need to be happy and just let the process unfold, Future looks bright.
One of my favourite player from dev camp + rookie campo was Tyler Thorpe. This guy looks pretty good.
No a rebuild can't be complete before you are even a playoff team.
Bravo ! Love you 2 togheter, makes for great content.
I love Shane's enthusiasm, that the rebuild is over. I want to agree with him so much, and I think we're not far off. I just keep thinking we have two more 1st round picks next year lol. Valuable trade assets, or keep continue stocking up the prospect pool. Next man up, build a franchise that won't be handcuffed by bad contracts. One thing is for sure, the excitement is palpable. Nice show guys! Go Habs Go!
Hughes did say that he wants to make a clear roster upgrade. He has all the assets to do so as well. I’m pretty excited to see what he does.
I don’t think it’s complete, our 2nd line played a combined 73 games last year. I think we will be pick 7-9 next year. That’s two more good assets in the first round to play with.
The rebuild is far from over. !!! Only starting year 3. Only need 3 small players and no more.
demidov and slaf will each reach 100 points in a few seasons , keep in mind slaf is a beast , one of a kind .
I always see reinbacher a Pietrangelo like defenseman, you need those defenseman in playoff
Please dont pull a pierre dorion and claim rebuild is over till we compete for playoff spot. However when u look at all the prospects its hard not to get excited. My only doubt is on right defence. At this point there is no top right d man. Barron has potential, Mailloux looks like a pp guy like a sheldon souray. Reinbacher has the tools but im not convinced his compete level is where it needs to be but these 3 guys have time to figure it out.
Montreal Hab fans are passionate and as much as I appreciate that, the drawback is that passionate fans can also show their impatience and their over exuberant over reactions. Hab fans have never been patient fans YET I was super surprised how reasonable most have been during this new Habs management team took over. But I believe the fact they see this "rebuild" is taking shape and Hughes, Gorton & MSL have done a good job with the choices they've made thus far has helped keep Habs' fans usual "if we don't win, fire everyone, trade everyone!" mentality at bay...for now (starting to see the impatience starting up again)! As for the Mesar/Reinbacher detractors...fans want, crave and almost expect, a flashy superstar esp if you're a 1st round pick...and as Drew pointed out, all players take different paths to the NHL and those who understand professional hockey know that all successful teams need a variety of players on a team...we can't have 21 skaters that are just flashy highlight reel players. I do worry for Reinbacher the most bc since he was selected, certain fans/media have been unfairly critical of his developing talent but I hope he has the character and noise cancelling ears to focus on just developing his game, taking the time until he's ready, and letting his play change the minds of the naysayers. I personally feel this team is on the right path offensively...I am concerned about how this team plays defensively. I do understand the emphasis on the "rebuild" has been to focus on the youthful additions and offensive identity of this team however I am concerned about how this team plays defensively. Watching Hutson dipsy doodle all over the ice, marvelling at Laine & Caufield & Slaf peppering shots at opposing goalies, Dach having a healthy breakthrough season, and hopefully an entertaining power play will be so exciting....but I will also be carefully watching how this team defends when they have a lead, as well as how successful or not they are on the PK. Looking forward to the season! Go Habs Go!
you are not alone with your concerns.
the habs do not have a playoff team this season.
its a rebuild,they needed to replace everyone from the top down.that started at the president molson .the coaches the players pretty much everybody and everything needed to go.
there is a new groupthink in habsland . its all about development now.
the habs need to lose enough so they can get a top 5 pick this year and next.need to lose enough so fans wont be mad if they trade matheson or montambault.
enjoy the season.
it might be tough to watch sometimes.
theyre a 28th place team.
gohabsgo
@@habinations I personally think this team, IF it can avoid major injuries, can squeak into the playoffs AND I feel that the mgmt team has moved from restocking the prospect pool to looking to add more established players to help move this team into a true ongoing contender. I think the 2025 off-season will be a crucial shift forward in this teams growth, Expect more roster changes as this season progresses. I appreciate your response and thoughts.
I'd say the same thing for Hutson as well, would like him to use his shot a bit more.
Hi guys good video! I have a question thats been bothering me for a few years now. Do all the teams before the draft know who they are going to pick?
If Lane don't work in Mtl he's done. MSL Is so calm, cool collective, to improve a human.
The rebuild is not over cmon get over it we need more high draft picks
no, we dont
@@Xanatos0504 yes we do tho dont kid yourself
And where exactly would those draft picks slot in and at what position?
@@DrewDekes for me center or right handed defence would be between 10-5 but eh its just my opinion i could be wrong you know
@@DrewDekesdach is not a sure shot we all know that i love the kid but can he play a full season if he can we are good if he cant stay healthy we still need a high end center …
THe assists from Reinbacker in the sunday game was smooth.
His name is Charles 👌 my cousin hahaha
Understand you met Mesar and want to root for him, but Mesar ain't it....he's a couple years away minimum, max 3rd liner. They drafted him so Slaf had a Slovak buddy in town.
lol, u think they drafted a player so Slaf would have a friend??? lol, ur not serious are you?
@@toddlauretteHabsforlife absolutely. Obviously they like him as a player, but might've reached....teams pair countrymen when possible, especially with euro/russian players ...life in a foreign country is a lot more manageable/ enjoyabe when you can speak your own language daily...
@@pizza603 Oh i dont disagree with that, (That teams sometimes like to pair country men, IF it's between 2 guys who are fairly close skill wise, they might take the guy from the same country as their first overall pick), im just sayin it's a little crazy to say they drafted Mesar just so slaf wouldnt be lonely, THAT i dont believe. If they were worried that he'd be lonely, i dont think they would have drafted him first overall. But thanks for keepin it respectful, u could be right, i dunno. Have a good day man.
@@toddlauretteHabsforlife 🤝
The rebuild is what?
Reinbacker is a better version of Devon Toews, Hutson is a poor man version of Clae Makar 😅
Nice
Sure u need "steady, reliable defensemen" to win, but u cant win if u cant score goals either... People just want to see more from a 5th round pick, how did Michkov do in his first game in Philly? I think he scored a goal didnt he? Demidov is a 5th round pick, when he gets here, u dont think he will be held to the same accountability. We're Habs fans! How long do we have to give reinbacher before we can say he isn't what they thought they were getting??? Three years? Four? Slaf went thru it, and he got better, we will see what happend with reinbacher...
SICK podcast is so good when Shayne is hosting and Marinara is on holiday. Dekes is a waste of time.
And I love you too, Bart 🤗😆
No its not. Dach and Laine are not sure values. Same for many defensemen. Same for goalies. We dont have an official 3rd line yet. We dont have a pair of elite centers yet. Rebuild not complete.
WHAT? the rebuilds over.... no no NO! get real-- Habs have 2 lines; the D is coming along nicely BUT.... 3 rd line......?? Gallagher s at the end; of; with a huge 24 goals/ 2 years; ditto Mr Anderson with only 30... i d say 2 thats TWO more years, plus to go..
A 3rd line is not where top prospects will play buddy… we have a solidified top 6 minus one BIG BIG FISH.
Need vets as well
What rebuild is over means is that we already drafted players for every position and more and they all look like theyll reach their potential too.
Caufield suzuki demidov
Laine dach slaf
Roy newhook hage
Xhekaj thorpe tuch
Heineman beck farell
Rhp Kapanen mesar
...
Guhle mailloux
Hutson bacher
Engstrom konyushkov
Xhejak struble
...
Monty
Primeau
Fowler
Dobes
Miller
...
So we dont need to tank and draft high no more we can just focus on winning and getting better and itll all fall into place.
@@xBarbzzz Hage is a massive steal in my opinion.. I think he will eventually battle for 1C in 3 years.
We r set MINUS one BIG BIG FA signing
Fowler is fuckin a winner
Dmen r great
Cant wait for contention in 2 years
@@xBarbzzz couldn’t have said it better myself… this is exactly what a rebuild being over means… All positions are filled, The problem with some teams (Toronto PRIME EXAMPLE) they get that one guy like Matthews and they jump out of the rebuild and make dumb mistakes (Tavares) They never had RHD filled and when they had a couple they traded them way too early to “win now” same goes for other positions, you need depth everywhere exiting a rebuild lmao… Montreal has covered all their bases, RHD is taken care of with two top 4 Ds with top 4 potential, Guhle can play the right and he’s locked up, Hughes has locked up all the core players except for Demidov, THE HABS HAVE DRAFTED A FRANCHISE elite! Player in the making, Forward depth for the 3rd, 4th line is STACKED!!!! And upcoming, Even if more than half of the depth prospects don’t work out and the 40% of the depth prospects do work out we still have amazing depth for the 3rd and 4th lines excluding deadline acquisitions in the future…
This rebuild is 100% done, That doesn’t mean playoff right away, And we are seeing the way management is speaking lately, “in the mix”, “Competitive”, “playoffs but not the end all be all” etc, This team has a lot coming up and on the team already, This rebuild is done, Now they can focus on winning games… Remember, WHEN this change was coming and we got Gorton in this organization, And then Hughes they kept saying “we really need to see what we have and what we don’t have before we move forward”… They never said rebuild for a while, I believe they looked at us already having Mailloux, Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, Roy, Primeau, Monty, Struble, Harris, Etc they saw all of the pieces we already had and said “we could do a 3-4 year retool with what we have already” and it seems that’s EXACTLY what they did… Drafted first overall and got an elite power forward, drafted 5th and got an elite two way RHD, Drafted 5th and got a franchise potential Winger/Center, Made some trades getting a second line C with size (Dach), Made another trade and got a 6’5 goal scoring machine, Another trade and got a super lowkey steal in Matheson, Etc… This was a deep and smart retool more than a full on rebuild in my opinion…
What I want to see less is less Hab fans complaining and being impatient.
A-MEN. We can ALL smell the team getting a lot better, and playoffs soon, but my goodness, give them a bit more time. It’s coming.
@@DrewDekes People can love the team and still dislike a draft pick, I LOVE where we are at, I love everything about the rebuild so far, except, I HATE the reinbacher pick, we needed goal scoring, and had a ton of solid D already. However, the pick has been made, and now we have him, so i hope he does well, i honestly dont see it, but i have been wrong before. Time will tell. In 5 years we will see where michkov, Ryan Leonard and Reinbacher are, and re-evuate then. Again, i love the rebuild, im not impatient, i dont think we have done anything wrong, except that one pick, it's not enough to sink us, but it could have really boosted us, IN MY OPINION. If u disagree, that's fine. Just remember im not being a dick about it, so when u comment back, please keep it reasonably polite. Im just simply stating what I think. If u disagree, that's fine, but that is my opinion on David reinbacher. Hopefully im wrong, but i have been watching hockey for almost a half a decade, and played for almost a quarter of a decade. Reinbacher is such a touchy subject, people lose their minds when i say i dont think he was who we should have chosen at 5! Like i said i think their only child is homely or something! lol, i can almost hear the gasps as people read it! lol. Relax!
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