Makita are the best in the business when it comes to construction tools build quality, noise and vibration and thought out features, there is no surprise this is one of the better polishers
This is an excellent tool and you’ll find yourself using it in forced rotation mode all the time. Yes the machine can be harder to control in forced rotation but if you use high quality pads and make sure you’re not polishing dry, you’ll be completely fine; anyone used to using a rotary polisher will appreciate this machine.
Hi Will it finnish perfectly fine with one step compound and no holograms every time / black / dark colours paintwork / both german and japanese paints or at least germans ? John has not it yet if i am correct.
I have a the makita forced and absolutely love it, have tested the flex and the rupes but found the makita the best all round bit of gear! Put a wool pad on the makita with a good compound and it munches through defects like theres no tomorrow. And as you said build quality is mint!!
Great Review!! i use rotary mostly , [old school ] and for Me, a forced rotation would be the best of both world, enough cutting power for the big plates /pads, and free spinning for the polishing finish part.. Makita are very reputable tools , and i think they did their homework on this very niche kind of tool!! :-)
I've been trying to decide on a DA... and been considering the Makita. This is the most comprehensive video about the Makita that I've found. Thank you so much for the information.
Hi Will it finnish perfectly fine with one step compound and no holograms every time / black / dark colours paintwork / both german and japanese paints or at least germans ? John has not it yet if i am correct.
I was a pro detailer way back when which was long before Flex was even a thought and we always used Mikita and we found they were the best we had then. Mikita would stand up to pro use year after year of 8-10 hour days. Mikita is a little large and heavy but you get use to it. Now a days I just DIY but STILL use Mikita and always will.
My first machine, bought it used in fine condition. Was concerned about sound of gears until I heard yours make same noise. The cruise control feature is great, its easy to wield and has a high quality screw in handle if required. Forced rotation with microfiber uropad and Perfect finish was exactly what I was searching for but takes more effort because it grabs onto the surface more.
I love my Makita 6000C. I prefer it over my Flex 3401 machine. It seems smoother and easier to control to me and I absolutely love the fact you can flip the switch on the fly to go from forced rotation to DA. I use the forced rotation first and then finish out with the DA. Works beautifully in that capacity. Very good build quality too. I just wish I had it in a cordless. That's the only reason I don't use it as much as my cordless 15mm DA now days. I still love it though. Makita must have a patent on the dual function with the switch because I have never seen another one and you would have thought the other big boys like RUPES and FLEX would have developed a similar machine by now. It is a great technology and works very well.
I can appreciate this. I have a rotary and my trusty das 6 ( god love that das 6) ;-) , but yeah I bought a flex 3401 about 2 years ago at waxstock, yeah the forced rotation machines do pull you abit, a lot to do with keeping the polish loose on the surface imo,.. if you let the product dry out these machines pull you about a bit, take your time, use the correct amount of polish and don't be tempted to work to big an area and you be on for a winner with i.e a flex 3401
Great idea this Makita although I think it would have been a much bidder deal if this had come out a few years back before long throw machines took over the world. This may get passed over due to the small throw but time will tell. Before Rupes when the pros all used rotaries, Makita was the tool of choice so it’s great to see them bring out something new.
Noticed Makita have released an 18v Brushless Motor version of this corded model but with constant torque & a finishing press button. Currently only seems to be available in Japan & Australia (not UK or US yet)
Thank you for this review! I have been interested in this machine since I heard about it but I hadn't found any good information on it until this! I have the 3401 and I am still pretty happy with it but have been considering the Makita and the Mille.
Hi John, I know you discussed this towards the end of the video but I'm getting mixed messages about the free spin mode. Some say it stalls immediately, some say it doesn't and the official makita video shows animations which shows NO rotation in free mode. My intended use is for superficial polish and wax and am concerned that the free spin mode will be totally inadequate. I'd really value your further comment. Thanks john
Great review! I wish this Makita had an 8mm throw 😕 like the Flex I like the price point as this will be my first polisher. To take swirls out of my dark blue 2013 A6. So i can cut swirls in forced rotation and throw some wax down in free spin. Thank you for the great review!
They kinds designed the tool around 2step correction forced rotation for compounding and free spinning for final polish a lot older detsiler in us use rotary for compounding and finish with da also sometime in June lake country is releasing it new polisher. It can go from 8mm to 21 mm throw use 6inch and 5inch pad a new tire dress releasd by optimum technology it last 6to 12 months
Great video & very informative ! Makita now do a cordless unit with a brushless motor. Maybe do an update to this video ? Been using this new Makita now for about six months & love it to bits in either forced rotation or free spin mode.
@@julianfisher6373 do you think it has enough power compared to the corded version? Sorry for the bomardment of questions. No one has properly reviewed it
3 years old but still a great review nonetheless. Just heard about this Makita and my only wish is the throw would be 8mm and not 5.5mm. But technology will improve as time goes on
It is a very good forced polisher if you work horizontally parts...in the verticals parts it is difficult and tedious , i prefer a da...best regards from Greece
Man I wish Flex had an appropriate backing plate for using 5” pads. I feel the 6.5” pads are too big for the machine and they end up tiring me out because I have to work them harder. Flex offers a smaller backing plate but I feel it’s too small for 5 to 5.5” pads. Would be amazing if they offered a 125mm plate as you said. I think it would make the machine MUCH easier to use and effective.
i think flex 3401 has 115 and 140 propriatory plates. and then the 100ml and 150 ml LC adapter plates. (I think. sorry if that wrong thats off the top of my head). yer I would be surprised if the new tool isnt like 125 and 150.
Forensic Detailing Channel My flex came with a 150mm plate and the smaller option flex offers is 4 3/8” which is too small for 5” pads. :( Lake country made one as you mentioned that had appropriate size (4 7/8” if I recall correctly) but a lot of people mentioned it was breaking on them.
In the past, and in most of your testing, we used more rigorous tests that actually make us think of a better product when we compare more than one product
was tested out about as well as I can do mate, spent the best part of a day to make this video. the mecca would be to get all of the forced rotations along side each other and do like a set of performance comparisons rank them and mark them up. We can maybe do that at some point but time is always a factor.
Hy John, a Makita with 5 inch pad, will be a good tool to start? You can corect and finnish in forced rotation mod? For 250 euro it's a tool that seems to do allot. Thanks! Also interested in Flex XCE maybe you can do a review on that.
@@ForensicDetailing Looking forward to this as I find myself in need of a new drill and impact driver set and I'm looking at Makita, so they would share the same battery system. The Flex tools are just too expensive for someone like me who will only be correcting my own car and perhaps some things for family members, so likely only to be used once or twice a year.
@@ForensicDetailing I know !! I’m concerned about the smaller 5.5 throw. Over 8mm. Should I be. Or not. Thanks. The Flex is an 8 and the Makita much smaller. Cheers Jon. Dan
hi jon great videos as always. i noticed in a previours video that you had a sealay light on your work top.are tou going to be doing a review on these at all?
yer I thought Id already published it, but I have not lol. sorry Ill drop it soon. Its a really cool light the LED067. Ive done away with the halogens now these will do me and take up less space.
Fantastic video again John , is a forced rotation polisher your go to machine nowadays or is the rotary still in with a shout. The thing that puts me off the forced rotation machines would be the noise and vibration , how would the Makita compare to the Dewalt 849 ?
I got rid of the 849. was such a smooth well made rotary but it was just too heavy. I use the pe14-2 150 now with the PE8. Or ill use the 3401 with the PE8. More often than not I would start with the 3401. Its a bit slower than the rotary but it always seems to work.
Hi John, have you tried the cordless version? Makita are pretty good for a well balanced tool, I just wondered if the corded version would be better rather than having 5/6amp batteries adding to unit weight? Love the channel and all the advice 👍😀
Looks like a nice machine. I use a Makita rotary and have been resisting the urge for a forced rotation for a while. With black cars I sometimes get holograms if I don't finish on a soft pad slowly. Will this machine finish a medium cut without holograms? Might be a good video to compare for holograms between rotary and forced rotation. Great vid as always Jon.
Great review as always. I have dozens of Makita 18v tools and looking at getting the DPO600 (Basically the cordless version of the one your reviewing) Do you know anyone in the trade with it? Any good? It’s only for my own handful of cars so wont get serious use. I also have a few Milwaukee tools and they also make one so that’s also an option.
Hello and thank. Would you say the Flex XCE is better than the Makita 6000C ? I am hesitating to buy the one or the other to erase some little stripes... Thank for answering and go on making videos... you are great. ;-) Friendly. David.
I think I would be sold on the PO6000C but I think for use as my only machine a 5 inch backing plate would be better than 6 inch. The PO5000C does not seem to be a UK model? What 5" backing plate did you use and was that then with 5.5" pads?
Hi jon. I did testing for festool a few years ago and i told them to redesign their ro 90 dx mini rotex for detailing use and make its throw 5-6mm. But they just wouldnt listen and change. Bloody germans. I sent makita a full list of specss for a new version of the po6000c a month ago including an eight speed dial up to 850 rpm and a softer bale grip and improvements to ergonomics and the free spinning mode to spin easier and be 12, 14 or 16 mm. All gear driven polishers should be dual orbit and dual moded like the makita in the future
Tell them to make some long throws and mini DA's as well matt :) Makita could sit themselves between the chinese tools and the premium options and provide a really nice option for consumers. the build quality is there isnt it. you can just feel it when you use the tool. I dont think they realise its a market worth exploring. Im thinking you cant easily make the free spinning mode 12,14 or 16 though matt without making the forced rotation move the same though matt? gonna make it to much of a handfull. Do you know if they have patents on this tool?
@@ForensicDetailing you may be right about the forced mode being the same throw size. I have a dynabrade da accessory on a flex stone grinder and it can be locked by a pin to become rotary with 19mm orbit combined. It can flatten peel down somewhat with a microfibre and glasses paint out beautifully but the heat it creates is ten degrees hotter than any other tool in half the time so not ideal and a large orbit forced would be deadly to use and hold onto, be a psycho. But metabo achieved dual orbit with their sxe 450 turbo tec a decade ago, ive owned one for years and washer modded it but doing that with geared and random would be difficult. Chinese tool company im getting to work on the design for me and a mini forced rotation tool. Might need two counterweights. More oscillations per rotation or more rotations per orbit is what rupes did with mille and its great but $1000 bucks.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks jon have you listened to my recent podcast on you tube - auto detailing podcast episode 379. My podcast episode with adam on the optimum synergy podcast should be up in two weeks. Trying very hard to evolve the industry and make it move forward. Love your channel mate
Hi Mattew Gibb how are you?! can you help me with your experience? I am a super novice I have a Dewalt dmp849x rotary, but I also want to buy a double action and the options are: the DeWalt DCM848 polisher and the makita PO5000 polisher, please tell me which of these 2 polishers do you recommend, I hope you help me thank you!
My great britain from uk.... please let me share some better uses for makita..... with a lake country HDO blue and orange foam with S20 black for cut at forced mode and then refine it with s30 or s40 with dual acrion mode.... the machine is right between rupes yellow wool pad the best of rupes products( cut 8/10) and refine 3/10 with sonax perfect finish and rupes yellow foam pad.... great setup but the foam must have a EVA interface with the lake country try it and send a feed back..... greetings from Brasil
Great video Jon, I think it's a great polisher but I would prefer it to spin clockwise like the Mille. I own a Chinese copy of the Flex & an older Bosch sander/polisher that also has the dual mode but it's a smaller size like the DA polishers with the 8mm rotation. It also spins counterclockwise which is odd since most polishers spin clockwise but no big deal they work fine. I wonder how the updated Flex will work & when it's coming out? Any info on that would be great. Thanks, Vince.
Hi Sir, just a quick question: do you think it is viable to use for correct and polish kitchen granite/marble work tops? Is it powerful enough to do the job? Because it is forced rotation with 8mm, when the edge meets some sink edge,I guess it will have avoid area or the machine can cut the edge of the sink edge? Thanks for your answer.
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you very much for your prompt answer, so I will probably go for a normal polisher. Not sure if you have any recommendations? Thanks a lot!
where can you recommend buying a low budget DA Polisher preferably around the £100 - £150 (dont fancy spending a lot because I'm a weekend warrior, it would only be used rarely but wsnt a decent machine)mark also pads and 75mm backing plate you'd recommend. cheers.
Id say just get a DAS6 pro. 5 inch plate with some hex logic pads. 75 or 90 ml plate with the 4 inch hex pads. Buy a bottle of Perfect finish and some white pads and away you go. There are of course limitations to doing this but you can also get fantastic results.
sa good as das6 may be. . .the difference in price is abt £20? for this you get long throw and less vibrations. when spending some 8-10h on a car. . .I would say it is easy worth the £20 more. . .
So I'm new to the channel, and want to start detailing my vehicles properly. I am a big Makita fan. Should I be buying this tool, or the 7", as a starting / do everything tool? Not really needing to do much correction, vehicles in ok condition, just looking to polish I guess. Great channel, thank you!
yes bear in mind you cant hit intricate areas with it.. and bear in mind the free spinning function is not that usefull.. but really robust dense well made solid tool at a really strong price point for that quality..... I do recomend it.
Hi. If I already own a Makita rotary polish machine, is it worth switching to this orbital PO6000C? Do I reduce the effect of holograms?Do you think Flex or Rupes has a better orbital than Makita? Thanks
Looking to move to forced rotation machine from a DA. Can you advise what would be the best 5” backing pad to use please ? And would it take a 3” pad .
I love that little gizmo! I've been using it for years on a right angle cordless drill and it's been a real joy to use. Amazing how few people know about it.
That's not a forced DA..that's just a way to convert a drill (rotary mode) into a DA You can how ever swap a 3in plate onto your Makita po5000cfor a 3in...one Bulky 3 in forced though lol
Bizno Booyo not true the Meguiars 3” it is in fact forced rotation. do a little search before commenting, its one of those tools that only a few people notice the potencial
Dilemma time ! A cordless Makita DPO600 (I already have batteries from my other tools) or a corded Flex XCE... ? It will be approx. the same price for me. Problem is the Makita is sold with a 150mm plate and the spare 125mm cost about 30€. I read the Makita was not as "strong" as its opponents, and could stall pretty fast in free-spinning mode... ! But still I’d consider Makita. Do you have any details on the backing plate ? What kind of attachment is it ? Thanks a lot for this vid !! Keep going !
you can put 125 ml plate on it. I think there a model which comes with the 125 ml plate po5000c. No problem there. The dilema is less about price and the fact makita are less likely to be making polishing tools to accompany it? no mini polisher etc.. The makita polisher itself is really sturdu and well made though and cheaper than flex. so you should be able to decide from this. Its less about quality. more about are you a one tool guy or will you invest in more polishers later on. If so you should go flex.
Hi John. Great review. I have this machine and I have a problem. (maybe it is just me.) On forced rotation unless the pad is well lubricated (causing splatter) I feel as if I am fighting the machine which makes it a very tiresome experience. Any tips (i.e. Pad/polish combos) which would make it easier. Thanks in advance.
hey russel so the downside of force rotation is yes if the pad starts to stck your going to feel the machine pull you more. I dont typically find loading up with more polish helps although some guys do. I find pad choice helps. and cleaning the pads properly. and compound. I highly recomend the purple flex pads to cut and the orange flex pads to polish. Team them up with H9 or 8, F5 or6 and M2 or 3.
Hey John , have you seen the new Liquid Elements A1000 mini polisher ?. It is going for a good price but they have put a stop on sales due to legal action of a company with a more expensive version.
Hy John, y just ordered a Makita po5000c some Sonax Perfect Finish and Sonax Cut & Finish. I'm focusing on mainly one steps, can you recommend me some pads to make this combo work? I have access to rupes, lake country, carpro and but&shine. Rupes Bigfoot or Mille pads and Lake country force pads are the ones that y tend to chose... Mainly European cars... Please help 😄
Try and get Flex pads. See part 2 of my best polishing pad video... These pads aint cheap but the purple mid range pad is a beuty, can do most cutting with it and its also great for single stage.. and its proper durable. its expensive though. Have a look at the zvizzer pads if you want nice value. Rupes yellows and whites are great but the green I find is too coarse and breaksdown too fast. Im not actually sold on the lake country force pads yet. can be a bit sticky. but could just need to find a better combo with it. Search out the Flex ones. Also check the new Koch pads.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks allot for your answer! Y think y will go with Koch Chemie pads, we have their distributor here in Romania and can get them anytime.
could you tell us something abt the Health "cost" of working with a machine like this, day after day, or maybe a comparison a "pro" machine vs a cheap one. . .vibrations and so on? thx
was chatting to reg about this the other day. He machines for 8 hours a day 5-6 days a week. Hes been doing that for over a year and his hands are starting to show signs of wear and tear, joint pain, stiffness in joints etc.. I think this is an issue for people doing a lot of polishing. I dont do it professionally , but if I ever spend adjacent days polishing a car its my back that feels it the most. mainly down to poor posture when polishing. Smooth machines are desirable, the more you do, badly vibrating machines give you numb hands quickly.
@@ForensicDetailing that's why the Makita PO 6000C is the bomb Jon. Remember I've been using one since 2017. It's more solid than the Rupes LK900 Mille more torque and paint correction power. Even if it spins anticlock wise it is more powerful than the Rupes Mille. Ergonomically it's superior to the Rupes Mille ! I have not tried the Rupes Mille but according to Matt Gibb he thinks the Makita PO 6000C is superior in every way especially performance. 535rpm Rupes Mille LK900 against Makita PO 6000C 780rpm ! Great review Jon glad I put you on to Mark Leddy 😊 PS I also own the Flex 3401 VRG since 2008 never missed a beat ! How would you rate the Makita PO 6000C against the Rupes Mille LK 900 ?
cheers mario matts such a top guy, love his passion for this stuff. Id have a makita over the rupes mainly due to price. I still think the rupes is a great tool. it also has a good solid feel although your conscious of being raised back from the panel at bit more even if its literally millimeters. rupes maintains temp better and obviously has less wobble than the flex, love the 9 meter cabel. but yer Id take the makita because its every bit as smooth but basically close to half the price. the most important thing I think is just finding a pad and abrasive combo to use with these tools, it might even be more important than the tool itself. still those 5 inch hybrid pads on the 4 inche flex plate, for whatever reason they make controlling this tool so much easier, less effort, just bang it on the panel and it never wants to walk. so I really will always stick with my 3401. even when the new xce comes out most probably.
@@ForensicDetailing Don't get too excited about the Flex XCE because they haven't made leaps and bounds Jon , I recently spoke with Renny Doyle and he's annoyed that they have not evolved like Rupes and Makita ! If you go on the Flex website you will be utterly disappointed! There specs have been reduced from 480rpm to 430rpm increase in power 1010watts to make up for the shortfall in rpm! In my opinion they have shot themselves in the foot Jon.A lot of Flex fans will go elsewhere because Flex is too stubborn to listen to suggestions typical Germans know it all's! They will loose customers by not listening to there customers requests ! I found with the Makita PO 6000C the best pads for this machine polisher are the Flexipads Xslim foam buffing pads the machine becomes even easier to control when using this combo with hardly any vibrations ! Better than using thicker pads like the Lake Country Forced. A smaller 125 mm backing plate makes all the difference too especially when using this combo!
can maybe try to. I have no contacts at makita they dont seem to have have like any contact you can approach to borrow tools for review. so I will maybe try and borrow one but Im not sure theres much to add
The cable on my Flex 3401 is black and very heavy duty and nearly impossible to get tangled. Perhaps it is a different cable because it is a US spec or maybe made a different year?
What mode were you using for finish,,i have the DPO600 cordless,, struggling to go from wet sanded clear coat sanded at 1500 with farecla,,it wont start to shine.
I would step those 1500 marks down steve. soak out some p2500 of 3000 for 30 minutes.. step down the 1500 to 3000.. Then hit the 3000 with a SFC101 or a high cut compound like H8... then refine it. If your nor removing sanding have something is going radically wrong. normal risk is it will shine but you can see rounded rounded sanding marks still. stepping down will ensure that doesnt happen.
Excellent review, I have watched a few of your video's now, looking for my first polisher. The budget has gone from under £100 up to this :-) I am guessing at least £100 on top for pads and polish ? I wish i could just give you a budget and you put the best kit together for that money ?? Idea for you ?Thanks again !
@@ForensicDetailingHi there ! lost a couple of days on your RUclips now :-) If i had a gun to your head and you had to buy one machine what would it be !
yes. but the rotation of the plate is driven by a set of cogs. Those cogs dont exist in the free spinning equivalant. take away the track or cogs and the forced rotation is essentually the same as the free spinning DA. See picking the right polisher video and pad dynamics video showing tracers light movement.
I use a PA lance. was 40 quid. its been good. but Im not sure if you need to spend 40 quid. I just bought the 7.99 chinese ones from clean your ride will be interested to see how that does. Ill cover this on the channel at some point. but its like this. If you want to spend 35-40 quid go PA or MTM. If you want to spend like 15 quid. Buy like the in2detailing one or any of the cheap chinese ones. Its generally what you put through them that effects how they perform. every now and then changing out the filters will be good. using spray and rinse chems can block up the filters a bit.
hey maciej its less about ultra soft and more about quality. honestly thats the most important thing. 3m backing plates are good. So are the flex ones. avoid cheap backing plates the velcro hooks snapp off and fall into the pads when you rip the pads off. the cheap ones dont always align properly as well. And note, some of the ones you think would be high quality and are expensive can be actually poor quality. 3m or Flex ones mate.
jesus, tough one.. ok finger in the wind. 30% less time with correction.. hmm dunno.. the mecca whenever you have heavy swirl paint is to do all you correction in one set, isnt it. thats always my aim at least. sometimes on a normal DA like that taking out heavy swirls on hard paint can be like 3 sets. Problem is you cant do much when you have your compound and pads already picked, so there and then when you have your DA theres no much you can do to improve the cut with the machine. With the 3401 you can pressure it in a little bit more without stall. this also makes it better for removing scratching in curvey areas where your DA will want to stall out more when its not on a flat panel.. theres so many factors. but you want a rough guess. 30%
Yo Brewinz. I dont have them both with me to compare side by side. I did have some grabbing problems with the mille that I didnt have with the makita using the same pad and abrasive combo. But I really dont think thats the machine to blaim, the dynamics are too similiar. I think the main reason you might pick the makita is the build quality is as good as flex or rupes (you could argue its even higher). but the price point is really desirable. Its definetly worth checking out. But I thought the mille was solid as hell, just pricey perhaps.
free spin does not equal DA. DA literally means dual action. So rotation and oscillation. Forced rotation is still a DA for example. I think though most times when peeps say DA they are literally referring to a free spinning machine though.
if the backplate is 150mm or 6", should i use 150mm polishing pads or bigger diameter? and can I change the backing plate from 150mm to 125mm? what brand of polishing pads do you recommend that can fit into this model? thank you!
The po5000c's are all imports UK has po6000c can't find a Mitika 5" plate am I best using the 6" supplied or could you recommend a suitable 5 inch backing plate. Thanks for the review.
Makita are the best in the business when it comes to construction tools build quality, noise and vibration and thought out features, there is no surprise this is one of the better polishers
This is an excellent tool and you’ll find yourself using it in forced rotation mode all the time. Yes the machine can be harder to control in forced rotation but if you use high quality pads and make sure you’re not polishing dry, you’ll be completely fine; anyone used to using a rotary polisher will appreciate this machine.
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Will it finnish perfectly fine with one step compound and no holograms every time / black / dark colours paintwork / both german and japanese paints or at least germans ?
John has not it yet if i am correct.
Yes you can finish with only one step paint correction and finish
I love Makita power tools and have several of them. Just good quality!
Indeed they are. 👍
I have a the makita forced and absolutely love it, have tested the flex and the rupes but found the makita the best all round bit of gear! Put a wool pad on the makita with a good compound and it munches through defects like theres no tomorrow. And as you said build quality is mint!!
Great Review!! i use rotary mostly , [old school ] and for Me, a forced rotation would be the best of both world, enough cutting power for the big plates /pads, and free spinning for the polishing finish part.. Makita are very reputable tools , and i think they did their homework on this very niche kind of tool!! :-)
I've been trying to decide on a DA... and been considering the Makita. This is the most comprehensive video about the Makita that I've found. Thank you so much for the information.
Nice review. I bought one 6 months ago and didnt like it at first but it has really grown on me and I wouldn't be without it now.
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Will it finnish perfectly fine with one step compound and no holograms every time / black / dark colours paintwork / both german and japanese paints or at least germans ?
John has not it yet if i am correct.
Would love a review on the Makita DPO600Z
I was a pro detailer way back when which was long before Flex was even a thought and we always used Mikita and we found they were the best we had then. Mikita would stand up to pro use year after year of 8-10 hour days. Mikita is a little large and heavy but you get use to it. Now a days I just DIY but STILL use Mikita and always will.
True veteran!
would you say it had any negative effect on you? Health I mean from vibrations and so on?
My first machine, bought it used in fine condition. Was concerned about sound of gears until I heard yours make same noise. The cruise control feature is great, its easy to wield and has a high quality screw in handle if required. Forced rotation with microfiber uropad and Perfect finish was exactly what I was searching for but takes more effort because it grabs onto the surface more.
Keep up the good work, John! As always, an excellent and informative review.
I just bought the makita, it a very good tool.
I love my Makita 6000C. I prefer it over my Flex 3401 machine. It seems smoother and easier to control to me and I absolutely love the fact you can flip the switch on the fly to go from forced rotation to DA. I use the forced rotation first and then finish out with the DA. Works beautifully in that capacity. Very good build quality too. I just wish I had it in a cordless. That's the only reason I don't use it as much as my cordless 15mm DA now days. I still love it though. Makita must have a patent on the dual function with the switch because I have never seen another one and you would have thought the other big boys like RUPES and FLEX would have developed a similar machine by now. It is a great technology and works very well.
Just recently discovered your channel. Ive learned so much! Amazing content. Thank you!
I can appreciate this. I have a rotary and my trusty das 6 ( god love that das 6) ;-) , but yeah I bought a flex 3401 about 2 years ago at waxstock, yeah the forced rotation machines do pull you abit, a lot to do with keeping the polish loose on the surface imo,.. if you let the product dry out these machines pull you about a bit, take your time, use the correct amount of polish and don't be tempted to work to big an area and you be on for a winner with i.e a flex 3401
Great idea this Makita although I think it would have been a much bidder deal if this had come out a few years back before long throw machines took over the world. This may get passed over due to the small throw but time will tell. Before Rupes when the pros all used rotaries, Makita was the tool of choice so it’s great to see them bring out something new.
yer, I cant understand why they dont offer a 15ml throw and a mini DA as well. I think a lot of people would by it.
Noticed Makita have released an 18v Brushless Motor version of this corded model but with constant torque & a finishing press button. Currently only seems to be available in Japan & Australia (not UK or US yet)
i'v been using the Rotex 150 for a few years now and love it, this looks like the same sort of thing but a cheaper. can't be a bad thing.
Thank you for this review! I have been interested in this machine since I heard about it but I hadn't found any good information on it until this! I have the 3401 and I am still pretty happy with it but have been considering the Makita and the Mille.
Awesome video. Thank you from here in Australia!
Hi John, I know you discussed this towards the end of the video but I'm getting mixed messages about the free spin mode. Some say it stalls immediately, some say it doesn't and the official makita video shows animations which shows NO rotation in free mode. My intended use is for superficial polish and wax and am concerned that the free spin mode will be totally inadequate. I'd really value your further comment. Thanks john
Seems like a great all rounder for those who just want the one tool. Nice review again John.
Great review!
I wish this Makita had an 8mm throw 😕 like the Flex
I like the price point as this will be my first polisher. To take swirls out of my dark blue 2013 A6. So i can cut swirls in forced rotation and throw some wax down in free spin.
Thank you for the great review!
why you want 8mm throw?
They kinds designed the tool around 2step correction forced rotation for compounding and free spinning for final polish a lot older detsiler in us use rotary for compounding and finish with da also sometime in June lake country is releasing it new polisher. It can go from 8mm to 21 mm throw use 6inch and 5inch pad a new tire dress releasd by optimum technology it last 6to 12 months
I own the Mille and PO5000c. I definitely feel the PO5000c is the superior tool.
can you go into more detail brewinz things like this are really usefull.
I actually ended up selling the Mille.
@@ForensicDetailing were you using a 5" plate in the video?
@@c6z061 yes m8
Forensic Detailing Channel mine came with a 5” plate, but I want a 6” plate. Opposite of you...lol
Great video & very informative ! Makita now do a cordless unit with a brushless motor. Maybe do an update to this video ? Been using this new Makita now for about six months & love it to bits in either forced rotation or free spin mode.
Do you have the cordless version? How do you feel with the power snd vibrations? Not sure which i’m getting - PO600c or DPO600Z
@@moezavlogs3252 yes ours is cordless & great with less vibrations than the corded version ! Highly recommend
@@julianfisher6373 do you think it has enough power compared to the corded version? Sorry for the bomardment of questions. No one has properly reviewed it
@@moezavlogs3252 yes without a doubt !! Used both & would recommend it definitely over the corded one every time.
@@julianfisher6373 thanks! You’ve officially sold me. Was todsing up so many different machines; Rupes, Maxshine, Griots. I’d rather support Makita
3 years old but still a great review nonetheless. Just heard about this Makita and my only wish is the throw would be 8mm and not 5.5mm. But technology will improve as time goes on
Miss u man.. Great video
It is a very good forced polisher if you work horizontally parts...in the verticals parts it is difficult and tedious , i prefer a da...best regards from Greece
I highly recommend mikita. They are great 👍
Man I wish Flex had an appropriate backing plate for using 5” pads. I feel the 6.5” pads are too big for the machine and they end up tiring me out because I have to work them harder. Flex offers a smaller backing plate but I feel it’s too small for 5 to 5.5” pads. Would be amazing if they offered a 125mm plate as you said. I think it would make the machine MUCH easier to use and effective.
i think flex 3401 has 115 and 140 propriatory plates. and then the 100ml and 150 ml LC adapter plates. (I think. sorry if that wrong thats off the top of my head). yer I would be surprised if the new tool isnt like 125 and 150.
Forensic Detailing Channel My flex came with a 150mm plate and the smaller option flex offers is 4 3/8” which is too small for 5” pads. :( Lake country made one as you mentioned that had appropriate size (4 7/8” if I recall correctly) but a lot of people mentioned it was breaking on them.
In a 5 inches soft plate.... best 2 x 1 machine out there....
In the past, and in most of your testing, we used more rigorous tests that actually make us think of a better product when we compare more than one product
was tested out about as well as I can do mate, spent the best part of a day to make this video. the mecca would be to get all of the forced rotations along side each other and do like a set of performance comparisons rank them and mark them up. We can maybe do that at some point but time is always a factor.
EURO 329 from the irish site !!! about 320£ !! and its out of stock !
Looks like another machine that I will soon be buying.
Hy John, a Makita with 5 inch pad, will be a good tool to start? You can corect and finnish in forced rotation mod? For 250 euro it's a tool that seems to do allot.
Thanks! Also interested in Flex XCE maybe you can do a review on that.
Very nice video sir. Thanks again
Hi Jon,
Would you consider do review of makita dpo600z(cordless version of p6000)?
y m8
@@ForensicDetailing Looking forward to this as I find myself in need of a new drill and impact driver set and I'm looking at Makita, so they would share the same battery system. The Flex tools are just too expensive for someone like me who will only be correcting my own car and perhaps some things for family members, so likely only to be used once or twice a year.
Jon. Corded 6000 or cordless dpo600z. Any idea played with cordless ? Cheers
Not tested cordless but generally I prefer it
@@ForensicDetailing I know !! I’m concerned about the smaller 5.5 throw. Over 8mm. Should I be. Or not. Thanks. The Flex is an 8 and the Makita much smaller. Cheers Jon. Dan
hi jon great videos as always. i noticed in a previours video that you had a sealay light on your work top.are tou going to be doing a review on these at all?
yer I thought Id already published it, but I have not lol. sorry Ill drop it soon. Its a really cool light the LED067. Ive done away with the halogens now these will do me and take up less space.
Fantastic video again John , is a forced rotation polisher your go to machine nowadays or is the rotary still in with a shout. The thing that puts me off the forced rotation machines would be the noise and vibration , how would the Makita compare to the Dewalt 849 ?
I got rid of the 849. was such a smooth well made rotary but it was just too heavy. I use the pe14-2 150 now with the PE8. Or ill use the 3401 with the PE8. More often than not I would start with the 3401. Its a bit slower than the rotary but it always seems to work.
You can turn the 3401 in to free spinning by removing the gear that makes it forced rotation and felt ring
Andrew Schwab well it’s good to know you can make it free spinning Yvan from lake county mfg did it
Hi John, have you tried the cordless version? Makita are pretty good for a well balanced tool, I just wondered if the corded version would be better rather than having 5/6amp batteries adding to unit weight?
Love the channel and all the advice 👍😀
Looks like a nice machine. I use a Makita rotary and have been resisting the urge for a forced rotation for a while. With black cars I sometimes get holograms if I don't finish on a soft pad slowly. Will this machine finish a medium cut without holograms?
Might be a good video to compare for holograms between rotary and forced rotation. Great vid as always Jon.
yes you wont get holograms with this thing. At least , you know, not saying it isnt possible, but you just wont. its a good machine.
I still have my makita rotary, but hardly pull it out anymore with the makita forced its the boss, best investment ive bought for my business
Great review as always. I have dozens of Makita 18v tools and looking at getting the DPO600 (Basically the cordless version of the one your reviewing) Do you know anyone in the trade with it? Any good? It’s only for my own handful of cars so wont get serious use. I also have a few Milwaukee tools and they also make one so that’s also an option.
Hello and thank. Would you say the Flex XCE is better than the Makita 6000C ? I am hesitating to buy the one or the other to erase some little stripes... Thank for answering and go on making videos... you are great. ;-) Friendly. David.
Great review ! Which back plate do you use on your Makita ?
Doesn't look like the original !
I think I would be sold on the PO6000C but I think for use as my only machine a 5 inch backing plate would be better than 6 inch. The PO5000C does not seem to be a UK model? What 5" backing plate did you use and was that then with 5.5" pads?
Hi jon. I did testing for festool a few years ago and i told them to redesign their ro 90 dx mini rotex for detailing use and make its throw 5-6mm. But they just wouldnt listen and change. Bloody germans. I sent makita a full list of specss for a new version of the po6000c a month ago including an eight speed dial up to 850 rpm and a softer bale grip and improvements to ergonomics and the free spinning mode to spin easier and be 12, 14 or 16 mm. All gear driven polishers should be dual orbit and dual moded like the makita in the future
Tell them to make some long throws and mini DA's as well matt :) Makita could sit themselves between the chinese tools and the premium options and provide a really nice option for consumers. the build quality is there isnt it. you can just feel it when you use the tool. I dont think they realise its a market worth exploring.
Im thinking you cant easily make the free spinning mode 12,14 or 16 though matt without making the forced rotation move the same though matt? gonna make it to much of a handfull. Do you know if they have patents on this tool?
@@ForensicDetailing you may be right about the forced mode being the same throw size. I have a dynabrade da accessory on a flex stone grinder and it can be locked by a pin to become rotary with 19mm orbit combined. It can flatten peel down somewhat with a microfibre and glasses paint out beautifully but the heat it creates is ten degrees hotter than any other tool in half the time so not ideal and a large orbit forced would be deadly to use and hold onto, be a psycho. But metabo achieved dual orbit with their sxe 450 turbo tec a decade ago, ive owned one for years and washer modded it but doing that with geared and random would be difficult. Chinese tool company im getting to work on the design for me and a mini forced rotation tool. Might need two counterweights. More oscillations per rotation or more rotations per orbit is what rupes did with mille and its great but $1000 bucks.
@@matthewgibb2640 mini forced rotation sounds interesting. hey stay in touch matt with what you do, love the passion you have for this.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks jon have you listened to my recent podcast on you tube - auto detailing podcast episode 379. My podcast episode with adam on the optimum synergy podcast should be up in two weeks. Trying very hard to evolve the industry and make it move forward. Love your channel mate
Hi Mattew Gibb how are you?! can you help me with your experience? I am a super novice I have a Dewalt dmp849x rotary, but I also want to buy a double action and the options are: the DeWalt DCM848 polisher and the makita PO5000 polisher, please tell me which of these 2 polishers do you recommend, I hope you help me thank you!
Finally got a DPO600 cordless. , don't use the Forced D.A.corded one bought A1Detailing, unsure why!!!!!
My great britain from uk.... please let me share some better uses for makita..... with a lake country HDO blue and orange foam with S20 black for cut at forced mode and then refine it with s30 or s40 with dual acrion mode.... the machine is right between rupes yellow wool pad the best of rupes products( cut 8/10) and refine 3/10 with sonax perfect finish and rupes yellow foam pad.... great setup but the foam must have a EVA interface with the lake country try it and send a feed back..... greetings from Brasil
Great video Jon, I think it's a great polisher but I would prefer it to spin clockwise like the Mille. I own a Chinese copy of the Flex & an older Bosch sander/polisher that also has the dual mode but it's a smaller size like the DA polishers with the 8mm rotation. It also spins counterclockwise which is odd since most polishers spin clockwise but no big deal they work fine. I wonder how the updated Flex will work & when it's coming out? Any info on that would be great. Thanks, Vince.
Hi Sir, just a quick question: do you think it is viable to use for correct and polish kitchen granite/marble work tops? Is it powerful enough to do the job?
Because it is forced rotation with 8mm, when the edge meets some sink edge,I guess it will have avoid area or the machine can cut the edge of the sink edge?
Thanks for your answer.
I dont really know jerry but if I had to guess I would say its not suitable for granite or marble work tops.
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you very much for your prompt answer, so I will probably go for a normal polisher. Not sure if you have any recommendations?
Thanks a lot!
where can you recommend buying a low budget DA Polisher preferably around the £100 - £150 (dont fancy spending a lot because I'm a weekend warrior, it would only be used rarely but wsnt a decent machine)mark also pads and 75mm backing plate you'd recommend.
cheers.
I use a Shinemate EX605, its small, its light and counterweight is really good, you get a lot for £140. . . it cant use 75mm so maybe not for you. . .
Id say just get a DAS6 pro. 5 inch plate with some hex logic pads. 75 or 90 ml plate with the 4 inch hex pads. Buy a bottle of Perfect finish and some white pads and away you go. There are of course limitations to doing this but you can also get fantastic results.
As Jon above said a DAS6 PRO may be a good option. Have one myself and used it on my car and works well
sa good as das6 may be. . .the difference in price is abt £20? for this you get long throw and less vibrations. when spending some 8-10h on a car. . .I would say it is easy worth the £20 more. . .
@Antonio Farina yes 👍. Sorry man this stupid auto correct bugs me at times 🤦♂️
So I'm new to the channel, and want to start detailing my vehicles properly. I am a big Makita fan. Should I be buying this tool, or the 7", as a starting / do everything tool? Not really needing to do much correction, vehicles in ok condition, just looking to polish I guess.
Great channel, thank you!
yes bear in mind you cant hit intricate areas with it.. and bear in mind the free spinning function is not that usefull.. but really robust dense well made solid tool at a really strong price point for that quality..... I do recomend it.
I am planning to buy one of the Makita polishers . Could you please advise between 9237C and 7000C. I have never used any of the polishers
Hi. If I already own a Makita rotary polish machine, is it worth switching to this orbital PO6000C? Do I reduce the effect of holograms?Do you think Flex or Rupes has a better orbital than Makita? Thanks
Yes if you don't know how to use the rotary.. see video called Botox effect machine polishing
Great upload, Malita have always delivered really well engineered products that just keep on lasting.
Nice video
Hey Jon does it spin clockwise in the southern hemisphere lol?
Looking to move to forced rotation machine from a DA.
Can you advise what would be the best 5” backing pad to use please ?
And would it take a 3” pad .
FR backing plates are proprietary mate. Nowadays they are 5 inch on flex and rupes. I think 5 or 6 on Makita. No 3 inch fr m8
Hi John if you looking for 3” DA force rotation consider the Meguiar's DA Power System
It’s my go to for small areas
I love that little gizmo! I've been using it for years on a right angle cordless drill and it's been a real joy to use. Amazing how few people know about it.
it is a nice tool to have. dont use ot much these days, but i still carry it around on jobs
That's not a forced DA..that's just a way to convert a drill (rotary mode) into a DA
You can how ever swap a 3in plate onto your Makita po5000cfor a 3in...one Bulky 3 in forced though lol
Bizno Booyo the Meguiars 3” DA is forced. I have had one for years. It is not a free spin
Bizno Booyo not true the Meguiars 3” it is in fact forced rotation. do a little search before commenting, its one of those tools that only a few people notice the potencial
Dilemma time ! A cordless Makita DPO600 (I already have batteries from my other tools) or a corded Flex XCE... ? It will be approx. the same price for me.
Problem is the Makita is sold with a 150mm plate and the spare 125mm cost about 30€. I read the Makita was not as "strong" as its opponents, and could stall pretty fast in free-spinning mode... ! But still I’d consider Makita. Do you have any details on the backing plate ? What kind of attachment is it ? Thanks a lot for this vid !! Keep going !
you can put 125 ml plate on it. I think there a model which comes with the 125 ml plate po5000c. No problem there. The dilema is less about price and the fact makita are less likely to be making polishing tools to accompany it? no mini polisher etc..
The makita polisher itself is really sturdu and well made though and cheaper than flex. so you should be able to decide from this. Its less about quality. more about are you a one tool guy or will you invest in more polishers later on. If so you should go flex.
Hi John. Great review. I have this machine and I have a problem. (maybe it is just me.) On forced rotation unless the pad is well lubricated (causing splatter) I feel as if I am fighting the machine which makes it a very tiresome experience. Any tips (i.e. Pad/polish combos) which would make it easier. Thanks in advance.
hey russel so the downside of force rotation is yes if the pad starts to stck your going to feel the machine pull you more. I dont typically find loading up with more polish helps although some guys do. I find pad choice helps. and cleaning the pads properly. and compound. I highly recomend the purple flex pads to cut and the orange flex pads to polish. Team them up with H9 or 8, F5 or6 and M2 or 3.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for that John. Appreciated
Hi from Denmark. love your thorougness!
Would you say this makita is comparable or the same as the cordless DPO500/600 model?
I dont know for sure because Ive not used the cordless so I dont like to speculate because I can give bad advice.
Hey John , have you seen the new Liquid Elements A1000 mini polisher ?. It is going for a good price but they have put a stop on sales due to legal action of a company with a more expensive version.
Hy John, y just ordered a Makita po5000c some Sonax Perfect Finish and Sonax Cut & Finish. I'm focusing on mainly one steps, can you recommend me some pads to make this combo work? I have access to rupes, lake country, carpro and but&shine. Rupes Bigfoot or Mille pads and Lake country force pads are the ones that y tend to chose... Mainly European cars... Please help 😄
Try and get Flex pads. See part 2 of my best polishing pad video... These pads aint cheap but the purple mid range pad is a beuty, can do most cutting with it and its also great for single stage.. and its proper durable. its expensive though.
Have a look at the zvizzer pads if you want nice value. Rupes yellows and whites are great but the green I find is too coarse and breaksdown too fast.
Im not actually sold on the lake country force pads yet. can be a bit sticky. but could just need to find a better combo with it.
Search out the Flex ones. Also check the new Koch pads.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks allot for your answer! Y think y will go with Koch Chemie pads, we have their distributor here in Romania and can get them anytime.
@@RoRuffRyder awesome your gonna love them let me know how you get on.
Hi mate. Thanks for the video. Just wondering if you have tried the Milwaukee polisher and perhaps compared both.
hi carlos I have not tried any milaukee polisers they are not so big in the UK
What backing plate you used in the Makita ? Looks like a aftermarket 5” plate
could you tell us something abt the Health "cost" of working with a machine like this, day after day, or maybe a comparison a "pro" machine vs a cheap one. . .vibrations and so on? thx
the magnetic field from the motor and the electrical field from the cord are what I see, probably because it's my specialty.
was chatting to reg about this the other day. He machines for 8 hours a day 5-6 days a week. Hes been doing that for over a year and his hands are starting to show signs of wear and tear, joint pain, stiffness in joints etc.. I think this is an issue for people doing a lot of polishing. I dont do it professionally , but if I ever spend adjacent days polishing a car its my back that feels it the most. mainly down to poor posture when polishing. Smooth machines are desirable, the more you do, badly vibrating machines give you numb hands quickly.
@@ForensicDetailing that's why the Makita PO 6000C is the bomb Jon. Remember I've been using one since 2017. It's more solid than the Rupes LK900 Mille more torque and paint correction power. Even if it spins anticlock wise it is more powerful than the Rupes Mille. Ergonomically it's superior to the Rupes Mille ! I have not tried the Rupes Mille but according to Matt Gibb he thinks the Makita PO 6000C is superior in every way especially performance. 535rpm Rupes Mille LK900 against Makita PO 6000C 780rpm ! Great review Jon glad I put you on to Mark Leddy
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PS I also own the Flex 3401 VRG since 2008 never missed a beat !
How would you rate the Makita PO 6000C against the Rupes Mille LK 900 ?
cheers mario matts such a top guy, love his passion for this stuff. Id have a makita over the rupes mainly due to price. I still think the rupes is a great tool. it also has a good solid feel although your conscious of being raised back from the panel at bit more even if its literally millimeters. rupes maintains temp better and obviously has less wobble than the flex, love the 9 meter cabel. but yer Id take the makita because its every bit as smooth but basically close to half the price.
the most important thing I think is just finding a pad and abrasive combo to use with these tools, it might even be more important than the tool itself. still those 5 inch hybrid pads on the 4 inche flex plate, for whatever reason they make controlling this tool so much easier, less effort, just bang it on the panel and it never wants to walk. so I really will always stick with my 3401. even when the new xce comes out most probably.
@@ForensicDetailing Don't get too excited about the Flex XCE because they haven't made leaps and bounds Jon , I recently spoke with Renny Doyle and he's annoyed that they have not evolved like Rupes and Makita ! If you go on the Flex website you will be utterly disappointed! There specs have been reduced from 480rpm to 430rpm increase in power 1010watts to make up for the shortfall in rpm! In my opinion they have shot themselves in the foot Jon.A lot of Flex fans will go elsewhere because Flex is too stubborn to listen to suggestions typical Germans know it all's! They will loose customers by not listening to there customers requests !
I found with the Makita PO 6000C the best pads for this machine polisher are the Flexipads Xslim foam buffing pads the machine becomes even easier to control when using this combo with hardly any vibrations ! Better than using thicker pads like the Lake Country Forced. A smaller 125 mm backing plate makes all the difference too especially when using this combo!
Great review but any chance you can review the LXT version of this? (DPO600) Really interested to hear your thoughts!
can maybe try to. I have no contacts at makita they dont seem to have have like any contact you can approach to borrow tools for review. so I will maybe try and borrow one but Im not sure theres much to add
The cable on my Flex 3401 is black and very heavy duty and nearly impossible to get tangled. Perhaps it is a different cable because it is a US spec or maybe made a different year?
Hey Jon, any idea how many orbits per revolution this has? I know the Mille is 14
What model & size backing plate was you using?
What mode were you using for finish,,i have the DPO600 cordless,, struggling to go from wet sanded clear coat sanded at 1500 with farecla,,it wont start to shine.
I would step those 1500 marks down steve. soak out some p2500 of 3000 for 30 minutes.. step down the 1500 to 3000.. Then hit the 3000 with a SFC101 or a high cut compound like H8... then refine it. If your nor removing sanding have something is going radically wrong. normal risk is it will shine but you can see rounded rounded sanding marks still. stepping down will ensure that doesnt happen.
Excellent review, I have watched a few of your video's now, looking for my first polisher. The budget has gone from under £100 up to this :-) I am guessing at least £100 on top for pads and polish ? I wish i could just give you a budget and you put the best kit together for that money ?? Idea for you ?Thanks again !
hey jonnie yes mate. Koch H9 F6 M3 trio of abrasives is all you need. And flex purple and flex orange pads will work great with those.
@@ForensicDetailingHi there ! lost a couple of days on your RUclips now :-) If i had a gun to your head and you had to buy one machine what would it be !
Уважаемый, подскажите пожалуйста какая платформа у вас на Makita?
What’s the difference between this and the 5000 series ?
I love this channel please stop smoking
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just bought the cordless version,, who needs rupes any more,,,,, these are premium machines on the random non forced mode,,,, zero burnt edges
I’m wondering if the cordless one has the same torque as the corded one?
Which polishing machine to buy for a car, which is the best or top
I've done videos m8 depends how much u want to spend. But da8 is good cheap starting machine
@@ForensicDetailing tnx broo
When you say forced rotation is that the same as an orbital or is it still oscillating in forced rotation mode
yes. but the rotation of the plate is driven by a set of cogs. Those cogs dont exist in the free spinning equivalant. take away the track or cogs and the forced rotation is essentually the same as the free spinning DA. See picking the right polisher video and pad dynamics video showing tracers light movement.
hello, you can put a 125 ml dish on it
Hi Jon can you recommend a good snow foam lance for a karcher pressure washer.
I use a PA lance. was 40 quid. its been good. but Im not sure if you need to spend 40 quid. I just bought the 7.99 chinese ones from clean your ride will be interested to see how that does. Ill cover this on the channel at some point. but its like this. If you want to spend 35-40 quid go PA or MTM. If you want to spend like 15 quid. Buy like the in2detailing one or any of the cheap chinese ones. Its generally what you put through them that effects how they perform. every now and then changing out the filters will be good. using spray and rinse chems can block up the filters a bit.
@@ForensicDetailing thank's Jon, I have the karcher one but it's not great, I new you were the right guy to ask, thank's again pal.
Hi mate. Could you please recomend for me some ultra soft backing plate for my rotary polisher m14. Thanks
hey maciej its less about ultra soft and more about quality. honestly thats the most important thing. 3m backing plates are good. So are the flex ones. avoid cheap backing plates the velcro hooks snapp off and fall into the pads when you rip the pads off. the cheap ones dont always align properly as well. And note, some of the ones you think would be high quality and are expensive can be actually poor quality. 3m or Flex ones mate.
Cool that US flag in the window
But, why are they so expensive?
About what percentage of time can this makita save me, compared to a porter cable 7424 doing a swirl removal job?
jesus, tough one.. ok finger in the wind. 30% less time with correction.. hmm dunno.. the mecca whenever you have heavy swirl paint is to do all you correction in one set, isnt it. thats always my aim at least. sometimes on a normal DA like that taking out heavy swirls on hard paint can be like 3 sets. Problem is you cant do much when you have your compound and pads already picked, so there and then when you have your DA theres no much you can do to improve the cut with the machine. With the 3401 you can pressure it in a little bit more without stall. this also makes it better for removing scratching in curvey areas where your DA will want to stall out more when its not on a flat panel.. theres so many factors. but you want a rough guess. 30%
so its like a das6 and flex 3401 in one tool
So.. XCE Corded, or the Makita? Also, just joined the patreon!
Price not effecting the decision.
I'm in the same hustle
@@vloot2009 went with XCE, hate it. Sticking with 15mm MKII Rupes.
@@hayden199516 my mk15 mk2 just broke down thinking of going with the Makita since its only 270 euros here
@@vloot2009 give it a shot!! Let me know how you like it once you get it?
Hi Jon, is the Makita less grabby/finicky than the Mille?
Yo Brewinz. I dont have them both with me to compare side by side. I did have some grabbing problems with the mille that I didnt have with the makita using the same pad and abrasive combo. But I really dont think thats the machine to blaim, the dynamics are too similiar. I think the main reason you might pick the makita is the build quality is as good as flex or rupes (you could argue its even higher). but the price point is really desirable. Its definetly worth checking out. But I thought the mille was solid as hell, just pricey perhaps.
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Free Spin = DA ? Thanks
free spin does not equal DA. DA literally means dual action. So rotation and oscillation. Forced rotation is still a DA for example. I think though most times when peeps say DA they are literally referring to a free spinning machine though.
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if the backplate is 150mm or 6", should i use 150mm polishing pads or bigger diameter? and can I change the backing plate from 150mm to 125mm?
what brand of polishing pads do you recommend that can fit into this model? thank you!
you can get the PO5000c which comes with 125 or 5 inch plate. You can change the plates.. the tool here was loaned to me had non standard plate.
The po5000c's are all imports UK has po6000c can't find a Mitika 5" plate am I best using the 6" supplied or could you recommend a suitable 5 inch backing plate. Thanks for the review.
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You can make the flex 3402 free spinning as well
hmm how would you do that?
@@aronlantos by removing the gear teeth in the housing
Yeah, just remove the felt ring piece..but then it becomes one slow correcting freespin...only 4800 OPM
Regular 8mm tend to be 6500 opm
That machine had very bad free spin
3401 sorry