@@Wonheelegent a tip to start is by watching GoSe(Going Seventeen) & some other variety/shows that their in! its a quick way to learn their names and personalities! ++Also good luck on ur exams!!😭
Thank you, I have experienced most off the controversies, and I can tell it has happen like that, I love enhypen, I will not say they are perfect, but they are good guys, also the first reasons from iland to hating Sunoo for acting “gay” are nonsense for hating, the other ones are more serious, but the world keeps changing and is not easy to know what is wrong and what is right, also, lately, they haven’t say things about weight or other, I truly think that people that hate enhypen is not good, you can hate the fandom, but if you don’t like enhypen is fine, just don’t consume there content, that s all, hating and spreading hate just makes things worse And as engenes, we should care about of our behavior and just support enhypen in a good way, stay afar of fanwars, etc
Why are you not fighting for Sunoos mistreatment in the company, no promotions, no solo brand deals. No name of him in magazines, no fancam videos of him in MBC, MCD, KBS channels, Dunoo being pushed and stomped on by their security personnel. Etc... Being a fan, don't you have the duty to ensure fair treatment of all the members??
The main reason peoppe began hating them was because they saw fast growth and potential.so peoppe monitored literally anything they do and mistranslated it to fit their narrative. The media also contributed in exergerrating those jokes with alot of what wasnt said but as kpop it is once they read captions thats all they need to believe. Alot of other idols have made jokes that where far from silly but the response from kpop fans where different and they overlooked.
God, I'm amazed how people can determine by walk, emotions, AND MORE HAND MOVEMENTS, whether a gay guy or not? People see what they want to see, they've already been brainwashed... I'm so sorry for Sunoo, I think he's not very pleased to hear that about himself.
i think alot has to do with the racism situation that happened cause of the heeseung controversy. Engenes were super racist towards the black engenes and the whole situation could have been avoided by a simple clarification
One thing I really hate is people assuming that Sunoo is weak, unable to protect himself and a little baby. Like guys? really? Mate is like 21?! I personally think Sunoo is one of the strongest members out there. With that sass and attitude, do you think he'll let anyone bully him?! Even Heeseung stated Sunoo is a bit serious off camera
For their song bite me them dancing with females i honestly didn't see what was wrong with it so im just a little confused on what whats so wrong about it ??
Nothing. It's just knetz being unreasonably hateful and weird for a dance and music video. The boys had to work hard to make another choreography just because their little snowflake asses can't stand two people, a idol and a female back dancer, holding hands and doing some damn choreography 😂
for us, international fans, there's nothing wrong, it was the Korean fans who said that their choreography was too "sensual" to have female dancers next to them AND to incorporate them so close to the members in the choreography, to me it is totally absurd.
And one thing is that sunoo don’t get the most lines in their comebacks and don’t get to be the Center in the choreos he mostly be in the back in every choreo it feel like he be ignored be the company even by the members.
I don't think he's being ignored, in my opinion. He got multiple center parts in Sweet Venom and Still Monster especially (chorus and post-chorus, etc.). Even for Bite Me, he received the introduction to the song and Sunoo said that it was weight on his shoulders. I think some fans are being too extreme especially when it's only getting better from here. It's a 7-member group. There are bound to be times when not every member shines, especially when one suits another part better compared to another member.
They just released one of the best cb this year and no one is giving the hype it deserves, like every one complain costantly how music is declining yet...
I think enhypen didn’t mean to bully sunoo…..I assume that it was a strategy to bring attention to the group since enhypen weren’t really that famous during their debut….otherwise the boys appear to be really good and friendly Again we never know what happens behind the curtains….we know them virtually and not personally….so let’s not dig into their personal lives just like how we wouldn’t like others to know our matters
honestly to me it seems sunoo is the most adored by all the members. sunoo is a very expressive boy and enhypen understands that and it seems they are careful about it too. but the so called "bullying" clips that got viral were so misleading considering the whole situation that actually happened
We don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, so calling names and assuming these things may not be true, as we will never know what really happened. I hate to see so much hate thrown at enhypen🙁
i don't get you guys. this will be bad so WARNING. why are they being hated so much? its so tough being a 4th gen idol because everyone expects them to be perfect. like huh? he doesn't have good visuals, all he has is visuals. they're too serious, they're comedians not singers. i miss how 3rd gen interacted, (if 4th gen interact) OH OH OH MY GOD they mentioned each other, he glanced at her. no matter what they do they are the worst kpop idols to ever exist. kpop nowadays is just a hate chain. whoever is popular get ready to get hated on. i am sorry i really love bts i really respect them too but if they were to debut in today times it would've been hard for them too. u know why? because all members of bts are not good at singing. those who sing are average except a few. the visuals aren't great blablablabla. don't u lie and say this wouldn't happen. all the things u guys are saying in the comment section, i can apply it to the groups u stan as well. but thats the thing while i don't everyone does it for enhypen.
i dont understand why people are hating on enhypen like if you don't like them, just say that but you don't have to tell engenes to do not interact because they like enhypen? and they worked hard asl to become kpop idols you cant just start hating on them for being bad at certain skills because you probably can't do as good as them? and don't even start with the fact that they're ugly? nobody is ugly and enhypen is an amazing visual group you shouldn't hate on them. if you do not like them then move on with your life but don't be toxic about it.
sunoo according to me is the most adored guy of enhypen. they all are extra careful of them because he is more expressive and is capable of feeling more than them. enhypen understands that and they act accordingly. its just sunoo sometimes is unable to control his expressions which he himself has stated many times. (that his expressions sometimes come out too exaggerated) and people made clips of only those videos without even getting to know sunoo's or enhypen's personality. (which i find unique and not easy to understand at first but trust me they are the nicest guys ever. engene's who are getting swayed by the comment please remember that; jungwon posts on weverse everyday, keeps asking what engene wants again and again heeseung is a hardcore introvert. but have u seen him with engenes? jay seems so serious but he is the most manly, caring, husband material idol to ever exist he notices all small things about his members sunghoon often understood as cold but just give him a minute please you'll find him to have such a unique personality, you'd find it hard to describe in words jake is like a puppy, such a bright personality he constantly analyses traits he should have as an idol and improves sunoo they guy who is the most loving and delicate of the group he is literally sunshine. niki- gosh this boy is misunderstood so much but he is such a kid. he looks hot and dashing and matured but he is as maknae in front of his hyungs just look at his old videos and now and observe the change it will interanlly hurt you and this all happened because of this very exact HATE they keep receiving. enhypen works so hard guys... jungwon was asked that isn't it tiring your tough schedule that your company gives you? he replied no. i like doing this. i like doing this so much i can't imagine what else i'd do if not this. as long as i am doing it for engene im not tired. )
Them dancing with girls would be fine, but it does, however, matter 'how' you dance together, the people were right about the dance being rather sensual and suggestive, but would they have still complained if the girls weren't there? That's the problem, these people have double standards, they wouldn't have complained if it was just Enhypen even if the dance was sensual, i think it is slightly better for guys to dance in a group without females if the dance is suggestive, but it still doesn't make the dance completely appropriate
Wtf...the dance wasn't even near as inappropriate, let alone, it wasn't random. It fit the song and storyline. Just say you think just like the knetz and hate seeing them with female dancers. Because them dancing with whoever isn't the problem, the problem is you guys and your thinking. Leave Bite Me alone.
@@ashantythegreat3231 I’m not going to lie and say there was nothing wrong. Our culture these days is okay with so many things that no one sees the mild or slightly suggestive stuff as inappropriate. If it feels wrong to show it to my younger siblings then it can’t be perfect. Their voices are amazing, song is catchy, and they’re amazing dancers, but even little things, sensual things effect us humans and change us on such a great level.
the dance was not suggestive at all, it is totally normal, with or without dancers, fever is a much more sensual song and with a more sensual choreography, but nobody said anything about it.
@@viccym What the hell are you even saying. It isn't sensual what is wrong with you? Had you ever tried to not be ignorant and realize the world doesn't revolve around you and your closed mindset? Do you want me to tell you what are REAL inappropriate choreographies, and you know what else is inappropriate? The way you speaking. The way you speaking about a simple song. You making it sensual.
@@hyuncute Exactly, especially the fact Niki was a minor as well. Bite me is just a social dance, a dance done between more than one person. Lots of cultures and artists do this. It is not sensual to dance with someone with the opposite sex. I don't know why people make everything between boys and girls sensual.
It's pure hyprocrisy and double standards. I didn't even know they had any controversies as I was getting into them last year, and when I found out, I couldn't believe that people don't do their own research and follow blindly. That's what most kpop stans do, they follow blindly and look at things out of context.
Their fandom was super racist to black people. Also sunoo has said that the members make jokes but they are not always funny. Seems like most of their jokes are about Sunoo's weight so idk
Wait engenes are racist towards black people? What's the context surrounding that? I am an engene and all the engenes I have personally made contact with online our very sweet and in no way racist. But at the same time there is always gonna be one/more people who are racist in every fandom. But yeah I have never heard of engenes being racist but I could see it being possible, ofc not all of them.
Don't you still continuing that same topic after a year when sunghoon said sorry to hay and sunoo in a radio infront of everyone ...sunoo also said it that If they go overboard they say sorry to him after video but you will not mention it ...see there is a video where niki bought sunoo food sunghoon gave his whole food to sunoo without eating because sunoo said it tastes good ..but you will see only bad stuff those who said they were bullying they don't know what is bully that was a friendly teasing and they learned enough of their mistake so don't need to bring this anymore
@@precious_spicyz I can not remember what caused it but they started saying slurs, and monkey emojis on kpop stans who were black on Twitter. It was the worst display of racism I HAVE EVER SEEN. It made me sick. So many people left the fandom and some cancelled buying their tour tickets because they felt unsafe. :( If you have not experienced it then dont worry too much but it was so bad.
Heesung and Jake are super powerful vocalists, Sunoo and Jungwom are great too. Jay is comparatively good for being a rapper. Ni-ki and Sunghoon aren’t pro vocalists but they do their lines just fine. They are not lacking vocals, compared to any other groups including their sunbaes bts
@@HH-rv7yw i wouldnt say that those 2 you mentioned as super powerful vocalist. Heeseung is obviously the best singer on the group, jake is pretty decent but nothing special, jungwon got that interesting tone but don't have the best technique, sunoo is just average, and the others are just....there ig. I'm not a hater, i actually like many of their songs but sometimes its kinda hard watching them live. I hope they could improve.
If people were upset about real things that were actually wrong then that'd make sense, but people are just overly-offended whiny pantses these days that make it their 'duty' to get offended over nothing, Sunoo does act a little more feminine than a regular guy, but that doesn't make him homosexual! I seriously hope not, he's just a little different, and it's just cute and funny 😄 If Sunoo doesn't mind his members teasing him about his weight then we don't have to worry about it, i'm sure they all do that to each other. You don't need to get offended for him 🙄. The day he let's his members or us know he doesn't like it, then you can complain. These people complaining don't even have real, legitimate reasons for complaining 😂 their complaints are so pathetic
You sound almost homophobic Why are you seriously hoping he is not gay ?. Sunoo may be gay or not. We don't care about the members orientation. Shame on you
@@nessstarries6204 If by homophobic you mean i hate or fear or misunderstand those people, then no. I love them, i do not love what they do. I do not support something that was caused by trauma and causes cancer, because i love them. And it wasn't me who said that, former homosexuals and lesbians said that themselves. It's always the same story: they were traumatized in some way, then years later maybe decided to go with these attractions they were experiencing and didn't care what people thought, then they became unhappy or they got cancer that was killing them, and then they changed. If people were born that way they couldn't change. The healing process sometimes included their dad or their mom (usually the dad) telling them he'd be there for them and he really did love them. That's what it is: these poor people are love-hungry, they are looking for love, but in the wrong places, and i will not support something that hurts them. There are zero studies or facts that prove it's normal, in fact, it's quite the opposite.
@@viccym ... I agree with most of your points but not the homosexual part. As a LGBT+ member, it was homophobic. And this comment sounds like excuses.
@@ashantythegreat3231 I do not hate you or fear you, I am not “phobic” of anything. But I do hate the sin, because it is hurting you, and it would not be loving to support something like that, whether you believe it’s harmful or not. I love you, more than words can say, which is why I will speak the truth
This is bullsh. Him laughing while being bullied doesnt excuse their behavior. He is at WORK and trying to be professional unlike his childish, inconsiderate members. Saying sexual orientation doesnt matter is like saying color or race doesnt matter - you sound ignorant. The only reason youre talking about is that ppl are openly homophobic towards him. In Florida they have “dont say gay” because msking it taboo keeps homophobia going. Only by calling it out and educating one another can we stop harmful sterotypes and treatment of ppl based on how they present themselves or who they love. So much ignorance; so much enabling of toxic behavior in this video. It’s shameful. Kpop world is so backwards - you guys lose it over adults dating but welcome homophobia and racism and body shaming. It’s honestly disgusting.
here we have sunoo's closest friend who knows exactly how he feels at all times. please, the members know sunoo better than you do. and sexual orientation literally doesn't matter, or would you treat a person differently for being straight or gay? i personally wouldn't, because i could care less or nothing if an idol i like his music likes boys or girls, i find it incredible that there are people with your mentality in the 21st century.
If the Enhypen boys are ugly, I’m a hippo 😂
same 😅
same here
HYUNA IS DATING THAT BITCH AND THAT MAKING ME TURN INTO A BARBIE GIRL SO ENHYPEN IS DISGUSTING 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@cookiesncr3meI AM VOMITING HYUNA IS SO FUCKING DISGUSTING🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
💕👑I AM THE QUEEN💕👑
my biggest enemies will always be enhypen antis 🙅🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️
Mine too 📣
frfr, like anyone who anti’s my ults (im a caratmoarmygene)
@@vantegoghh me too but I am not a carat but I am planning to Stan 17 soon because my exams are going on 😭
@@Wonheelegent a tip to start is by watching GoSe(Going Seventeen) & some other variety/shows that their in! its a quick way to learn their names and personalities! ++Also good luck on ur exams!!😭
I feel like enhypen's enemies is their own fandom which is why I don't consider myself an engene. But they're still my let group
Thank you, I have experienced most off the controversies, and I can tell it has happen like that, I love enhypen, I will not say they are perfect, but they are good guys, also the first reasons from iland to hating Sunoo for acting “gay” are nonsense for hating, the other ones are more serious, but the world keeps changing and is not easy to know what is wrong and what is right, also, lately, they haven’t say things about weight or other, I truly think that people that hate enhypen is not good, you can hate the fandom, but if you don’t like enhypen is fine, just don’t consume there content, that s all, hating and spreading hate just makes things worse
And as engenes, we should care about of our behavior and just support enhypen in a good way, stay afar of fanwars, etc
Exactly
Why are you not fighting for Sunoos mistreatment in the company, no promotions, no solo brand deals. No name of him in magazines, no fancam videos of him in MBC, MCD, KBS channels, Dunoo being pushed and stomped on by their security personnel. Etc... Being a fan, don't you have the duty to ensure fair treatment of all the members??
I am a multi Stan and Jungwon's leader ship is insane ✨️
fr he's such a good leader
@@wonheespookie ikrr
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Most of these are pretty stupid like the members being ugly, and sunoo being soo called gay these made me laugh.
they are indeed stupid, any reason is ok for that type of people to hate on idols
Apparently there’s a problem with being gay lol get a life bro
all the ppl that said heeseung and jay are ugly should really look in the mirror because all of enhypen members are beautiful 🫡🤦♀️ unlike the haters
SO TRUE 🫠🫠
Bite me dance was iconic.
Yes
HYUNA IS DISGUSTING 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
The main reason peoppe began hating them was because they saw fast growth and potential.so peoppe monitored literally anything they do and mistranslated it to fit their narrative.
The media also contributed in exergerrating those jokes with alot of what wasnt said but as kpop it is once they read captions thats all they need to believe.
Alot of other idols have made jokes that where far from silly but the response from kpop fans where different and they overlooked.
God, I'm amazed how people can determine by walk, emotions, AND MORE HAND MOVEMENTS, whether a gay guy or not? People see what they want to see, they've already been brainwashed... I'm so sorry for Sunoo, I think he's not very pleased to hear that about himself.
people are just stupid🤦🏻♀️ why should i care about idols' tastes??🤷🏻♀️
@@hyuncute FOR REAL
i think alot has to do with the racism situation that happened cause of the heeseung controversy. Engenes were super racist towards the black engenes and the whole situation could have been avoided by a simple clarification
if heeseung and jay are ugly then i don't know what i am
sameee
One thing I really hate is people assuming that Sunoo is weak, unable to protect himself and a little baby. Like guys? really? Mate is like 21?! I personally think Sunoo is one of the strongest members out there. With that sass and attitude, do you think he'll let anyone bully him?! Even Heeseung stated Sunoo is a bit serious off camera
exactly! they know themselves better than we do so thinking sunoo is weak is just 🫣🫣🫣
Fr
For their song bite me them dancing with females i honestly didn't see what was wrong with it so im just a little confused on what whats so wrong about it ??
Nothing. It's just knetz being unreasonably hateful and weird for a dance and music video. The boys had to work hard to make another choreography just because their little snowflake asses can't stand two people, a idol and a female back dancer, holding hands and doing some damn choreography 😂
for us, international fans, there's nothing wrong, it was the Korean fans who said that their choreography was too "sensual" to have female dancers next to them AND to incorporate them so close to the members in the choreography, to me it is totally absurd.
And one thing is that sunoo don’t get the most lines in their comebacks and don’t get to be the Center in the choreos he mostly be in the back in every choreo it feel like he be ignored be the company even by the members.
Fr i hate belift but the members dont ignore him tho
it’s the company that neglects him, but his members always include sunoo and treat him equally
I don't think he's being ignored, in my opinion. He got multiple center parts in Sweet Venom and Still Monster especially (chorus and post-chorus, etc.). Even for Bite Me, he received the introduction to the song and Sunoo said that it was weight on his shoulders. I think some fans are being too extreme especially when it's only getting better from here. It's a 7-member group. There are bound to be times when not every member shines, especially when one suits another part better compared to another member.
Its weird because Sunwoo is arguably the most popular member in Korea
You are stupid to say he's ignored by the members ,this is how we know youdont Stan them.
They just released one of the best cb this year and no one is giving the hype it deserves, like every one complain costantly how music is declining yet...
I LOVE THE SONG, THE MV AND THE CONCEPT ARE PERFECT 😭😭
Im pretty sure enhypen are an all visual group, also the netizens who said that enhypen is ugly probably are jealous 💀
I don't know which group are they watching when saying they're ugly but definitely not enhypen🤷🏻♀️
I think enhypen didn’t mean to bully sunoo…..I assume that it was a strategy to bring attention to the group since enhypen weren’t really that famous during their debut….otherwise the boys appear to be really good and friendly
Again we never know what happens behind the curtains….we know them virtually and not personally….so let’s not dig into their personal lives just like how we wouldn’t like others to know our matters
I don't think people should call it bullying. Saying something hurtful to another person doesn't equal bullying
honestly to me it seems sunoo is the most adored by all the members. sunoo is a very expressive boy and enhypen understands that and it seems they are careful about it too. but the so called "bullying" clips that got viral were so misleading considering the whole situation that actually happened
Also netizens wrongly understood Jay's words about Korean history... He left the chat for a big while 😶
I REMEMBER THIS!!!
Whatever it is... We love them ❤❤
We don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, so calling names and assuming these things may not be true, as we will never know what really happened. I hate to see so much hate thrown at enhypen🙁
I agree 😭🩵
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YOUR WELCOMEE💝 WHY ISNT YOUR CHANNEL VIRAL?! just subbed btw😍@@hyuncute
i don't get you guys. this will be bad so WARNING. why are they being hated so much? its so tough being a 4th gen idol because everyone expects them to be perfect. like huh? he doesn't have good visuals, all he has is visuals. they're too serious, they're comedians not singers. i miss how 3rd gen interacted, (if 4th gen interact) OH OH OH MY GOD they mentioned each other, he glanced at her. no matter what they do they are the worst kpop idols to ever exist. kpop nowadays is just a hate chain. whoever is popular get ready to get hated on. i am sorry i really love bts i really respect them too but if they were to debut in today times it would've been hard for them too. u know why? because all members of bts are not good at singing. those who sing are average except a few. the visuals aren't great blablablabla. don't u lie and say this wouldn't happen.
all the things u guys are saying in the comment section, i can apply it to the groups u stan as well. but thats the thing while i don't everyone does it for enhypen.
I hate bella poarch no matter what, get their collab away from me. Sweet venom kor ver is on top
okay. don't listen then. no one is forcing you
i dont understand why people are hating on enhypen like if you don't like them, just say that but you don't have to tell engenes to do not interact because they like enhypen? and they worked hard asl to become kpop idols you cant just start hating on them for being bad at certain skills because you probably can't do as good as them? and don't even start with the fact that they're ugly? nobody is ugly and enhypen is an amazing visual group you shouldn't hate on them. if you do not like them then move on with your life but don't be toxic about it.
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sunoo according to me is the most adored guy of enhypen. they all are extra careful of them because he is more expressive and is capable of feeling more than them. enhypen understands that and they act accordingly. its just sunoo sometimes is unable to control his expressions which he himself has stated many times. (that his expressions sometimes come out too exaggerated) and people made clips of only those videos without even getting to know sunoo's or enhypen's personality. (which i find unique and not easy to understand at first but trust me they are the nicest guys ever. engene's who are getting swayed by the comment please remember that;
jungwon posts on weverse everyday, keeps asking what engene wants again and again
heeseung is a hardcore introvert. but have u seen him with engenes?
jay seems so serious but he is the most manly, caring, husband material idol to ever exist he notices all small things about his members
sunghoon often understood as cold but just give him a minute please you'll find him to have such a unique personality, you'd find it hard to describe in words
jake is like a puppy, such a bright personality he constantly analyses traits he should have as an idol and improves
sunoo they guy who is the most loving and delicate of the group he is literally sunshine.
niki- gosh this boy is misunderstood so much but he is such a kid. he looks hot and dashing and matured but he is as maknae in front of his hyungs just look at his old videos and now and observe the change it will interanlly hurt you and this all happened because of this very exact HATE they keep receiving.
enhypen works so hard guys... jungwon was asked that isn't it tiring your tough schedule that your company gives you? he replied no. i like doing this. i like doing this so much i can't imagine what else i'd do if not this. as long as i am doing it for engene im not tired.
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some of these reasons are ridiculous, anyways i wanna get into enhypen
💜 THEY ARE SO TALENTED
Them dancing with girls would be fine, but it does, however, matter 'how' you dance together, the people were right about the dance being rather sensual and suggestive, but would they have still complained if the girls weren't there? That's the problem, these people have double standards, they wouldn't have complained if it was just Enhypen even if the dance was sensual, i think it is slightly better for guys to dance in a group without females if the dance is suggestive, but it still doesn't make the dance completely appropriate
Wtf...the dance wasn't even near as inappropriate, let alone, it wasn't random. It fit the song and storyline. Just say you think just like the knetz and hate seeing them with female dancers. Because them dancing with whoever isn't the problem, the problem is you guys and your thinking. Leave Bite Me alone.
@@ashantythegreat3231 I’m not going to lie and say there was nothing wrong. Our culture these days is okay with so many things that no one sees the mild or slightly suggestive stuff as inappropriate. If it feels wrong to show it to my younger siblings then it can’t be perfect.
Their voices are amazing, song is catchy, and they’re amazing dancers, but even little things, sensual things effect us humans and change us on such a great level.
the dance was not suggestive at all, it is totally normal, with or without dancers, fever is a much more sensual song and with a more sensual choreography, but nobody said anything about it.
@@viccym What the hell are you even saying. It isn't sensual what is wrong with you? Had you ever tried to not be ignorant and realize the world doesn't revolve around you and your closed mindset? Do you want me to tell you what are REAL inappropriate choreographies, and you know what else is inappropriate? The way you speaking. The way you speaking about a simple song. You making it sensual.
@@hyuncute Exactly, especially the fact Niki was a minor as well. Bite me is just a social dance, a dance done between more than one person. Lots of cultures and artists do this. It is not sensual to dance with someone with the opposite sex. I don't know why people make everything between boys and girls sensual.
It's pure hyprocrisy and double standards. I didn't even know they had any controversies as I was getting into them last year, and when I found out, I couldn't believe that people don't do their own research and follow blindly. That's what most kpop stans do, they follow blindly and look at things out of context.
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Their fandom was super racist to black people. Also sunoo has said that the members make jokes but they are not always funny. Seems like most of their jokes are about Sunoo's weight so idk
Those weverse engenes made me delete my weverse acc cos of their racist comments
@@di4ana_. I am sorry :( it was really bad. I do not think they can ever recover from yhat
Wait engenes are racist towards black people? What's the context surrounding that? I am an engene and all the engenes I have personally made contact with online our very sweet and in no way racist. But at the same time there is always gonna be one/more people who are racist in every fandom. But yeah I have never heard of engenes being racist but I could see it being possible, ofc not all of them.
Don't you still continuing that same topic after a year when sunghoon said sorry to hay and sunoo in a radio infront of everyone ...sunoo also said it that If they go overboard they say sorry to him after video but you will not mention it ...see there is a video where niki bought sunoo food sunghoon gave his whole food to sunoo without eating because sunoo said it tastes good ..but you will see only bad stuff those who said they were bullying they don't know what is bully that was a friendly teasing and they learned enough of their mistake so don't need to bring this anymore
@@precious_spicyz I can not remember what caused it but they started saying slurs, and monkey emojis on kpop stans who were black on Twitter. It was the worst display of racism I HAVE EVER SEEN. It made me sick. So many people left the fandom and some cancelled buying their tour tickets because they felt unsafe. :( If you have not experienced it then dont worry too much but it was so bad.
I would like to add one more, vocals.
Their vocals are heavenly tho
Heesung and Jake are super powerful vocalists, Sunoo and Jungwom are great too. Jay is comparatively good for being a rapper. Ni-ki and Sunghoon aren’t pro vocalists but they do their lines just fine. They are not lacking vocals, compared to any other groups including their sunbaes bts
@@HH-rv7yw i wouldnt say that those 2 you mentioned as super powerful vocalist. Heeseung is obviously the best singer on the group, jake is pretty decent but nothing special, jungwon got that interesting tone but don't have the best technique, sunoo is just average, and the others are just....there ig.
I'm not a hater, i actually like many of their songs but sometimes its kinda hard watching them live. I hope they could improve.
@@HH-rv7yw oh and at least BTS's vocal line have unique tone, and BTS as a whole focused mote on their rap.
@@LovelyLara123 if you find it that way then good for u ig
Why is he worried about his weight????
korea it's pretty strict with that but yeah.. he's totally fine
what?
that's what i'm saying!
what?
If people were upset about real things that were actually wrong then that'd make sense, but people are just overly-offended whiny pantses these days that make it their 'duty' to get offended over nothing, Sunoo does act a little more feminine than a regular guy, but that doesn't make him homosexual! I seriously hope not, he's just a little different, and it's just cute and funny 😄 If Sunoo doesn't mind his members teasing him about his weight then we don't have to worry about it, i'm sure they all do that to each other. You don't need to get offended for him 🙄. The day he let's his members or us know he doesn't like it, then you can complain.
These people complaining don't even have real, legitimate reasons for complaining 😂 their complaints are so pathetic
You sound almost homophobic Why are you seriously hoping he is not gay ?. Sunoo may be gay or not. We don't care about the members orientation. Shame on you
i'm sorry but did you just admitted to being homophobic
@@nessstarries6204 If by homophobic you mean i hate or fear or misunderstand those people, then no. I love them, i do not love what they do.
I do not support something that was caused by trauma and causes cancer, because i love them. And it wasn't me who said that, former homosexuals and lesbians said that themselves. It's always the same story: they were traumatized in some way, then years later maybe decided to go with these attractions they were experiencing and didn't care what people thought, then they became unhappy or they got cancer that was killing them, and then they changed. If people were born that way they couldn't change.
The healing process sometimes included their dad or their mom (usually the dad) telling them he'd be there for them and he really did love them. That's what it is: these poor people are love-hungry, they are looking for love, but in the wrong places, and i will not support something that hurts them. There are zero studies or facts that prove it's normal, in fact, it's quite the opposite.
@@viccym ... I agree with most of your points but not the homosexual part. As a LGBT+ member, it was homophobic. And this comment sounds like excuses.
@@ashantythegreat3231 I do not hate you or fear you, I am not “phobic” of anything.
But I do hate the sin, because it is hurting you, and it would not be loving to support something like that, whether you believe it’s harmful or not. I love you, more than words can say, which is why I will speak the truth
This is bullsh. Him laughing while being bullied doesnt excuse their behavior. He is at WORK and trying to be professional unlike his childish, inconsiderate members. Saying sexual orientation doesnt matter is like saying color or race doesnt matter - you sound ignorant. The only reason youre talking about is that ppl are openly homophobic towards him. In Florida they have “dont say gay” because msking it taboo keeps homophobia going. Only by calling it out and educating one another can we stop harmful sterotypes and treatment of ppl based on how they present themselves or who they love. So much ignorance; so much enabling of toxic behavior in this video. It’s shameful. Kpop world is so backwards - you guys lose it over adults dating but welcome homophobia and racism and body shaming. It’s honestly disgusting.
here we have sunoo's closest friend who knows exactly how he feels at all times. please, the members know sunoo better than you do. and sexual orientation literally doesn't matter, or would you treat a person differently for being straight or gay? i personally wouldn't, because i could care less or nothing if an idol i like his music likes boys or girls, i find it incredible that there are people with your mentality in the 21st century.