Both Shin Ultraman and Ultraman Rising represent hope, but in two different coats. Shin is more philosophical, more observant of it's themes, Rising on the other hand is personal, we see characters genuinely take on drastic changes, we can genuinely relate to them on a fundamentally intimate level.
@@Galberosfaithtout of topic, but Ultraman is either an alien or mystical giant not a robot, and I don't think anyone turns into a giant dinosaur in "the originals" unless you woke up feeling like you wanna gaslight this guy.
@@GaiusIntrepidus I think he's joking about @matthewsfilmzone9691 Zetton pfp, who in Shin Ultraman is a big sun robot instead of the originals dinosaur monster
I thought this movie was great for what it was trynna do It wasn't another repetitive,recreation of the old but instead a brand new,fresh piece of ultra media for old fans,and quite possibly the greatest starting point for new fans
Regardless of repetition I think the world needed to be reminded of how inspiring Ultraman can be from Shin Ultraman, it really says something when the guy who made as bleak a work as Evangelion and I suppose also Shin Godzilla had that much faith and reverance in classic ultraman and what the hero stood for that he chose Ultraman to stay as he remembered while the world was the one modernized and cynical of the hero. Rising just did it in a different way. Though I think the movie would be able to bridge the gap between the very young fans just being introduced to Ultraman and the older ones through its themes and story.
on the topic of the TV shows, Ultraman Blazar is an absolutely amazing reiwa Ultra, it feels like a Showa era Ultra show in terms of it's storytelling and i've never had as much enjoyment with reiwa ultras as much as i did with watching Blazar's run, i can't recommend it enough
Blazar was awesome. Even if it did fall back on the formula these newer shows follow a bit, it felt like it was really striving to be something new and fresh. It did a lot of things differently and it was a blast to see it unfold. Loved that show.
@@ShinGlassman054 the only Ultra shows I've watched to completion have been OG and Ultraseven, and I did notice the vibe was similar but with actual character development
Imagine if this Ultraman met the other Ultraman who got his own Netflix Show as in the guy with the robotic suit and the wannabes who's got the same suit as him?
Oh you mean Shinjiro? Yeah, he's somewhat of a different case. So here's the thing: Reason why Kenji is able to become an Ultra himself is because his dad was an Ultra himself. Yeah, he came from the land of light, he is just doing what Seven and Mebius did, make his own human form. Because of that he was probably successful in passing down his Ultra genes to Kenji. Shinjiro on the other hand, is the son of Shin Hayata who had parted with his version of Ultraman long before he was born. Note, this timeline is an alternate timeline to the OG Showa verse. Because of that, Shinjiro could be considered a hybrid, since he is more half human and half Ultra. It's important to remember that Ultraman and Shin Hayata are two different people, Ultraman just had Shin Hayata as a host and as a result, Shin indirectly passed the Ultra genes to his son TLDR, both Shinjiro and Kenji had VERY different circumstances to their birth and how that played into their powers. Simply put, Kenji's the son of an actual alien while Shinjiro is more like an inheritor of the alien that fused with his father, giving him the powers of an Ultra without becoming one
I watch this movie very skeptical assuming was going to butcher the entire Ultraman franchise...............................and ended LOVING THIS FILM SO DAMN MUCH......this is what true subvention looks like
I like this take on Ultraman so much more than the ones in Japan, he has a heart. I feel like a lot of Shōwa Ultras would have killed the baby anyway. A kinder gentler Ultra that isn't just Cosmos is one that the series needs for me personally to truly care. I always feel so sorry for the kaiju getting fucking brutalized before finally put down ( and most Ultra's often capable of just batting the monsters around and the kaiju can't even put up a fight back makes it even worse). Godzilla artist Jeff Zornow put it best on X back in March where for a lot of us that have sympathy for the kaiju is very hard to be an Ultraman fan cause it feels like the so called "Hero" is kicking puppies to death Also those of us that feel that way are often watching Ultraman for the kaiju themselves and not the Ultra ( and I will be the first to admit that the lead Ultra of whatever series Bandai Namco ahs spit out that year is my least favorite part )
I believe once or twice, when they're not dealing with obviously malicious kaijuus (oftentime invading alien or engineered lifeform, oftentime by alien hands), ultramans always seem to put destroying/killing the kaijuu as last resorts. Especially when said kaijuu is a part of endemic legend, or simply innocent/has no malicious intent. Granted, the malicious kind often outnumber the episodes where the current ultraman spares the kaijuu they fight (mostly because it's the driving force of the narration) , but these rare episodes of the ultras trying to solve the problem in other way than making the kaijuu explode should still count. Even before Cosmos, this kind of plot also occasionally happen. I think this rarely seen visage of Ultramans are shown very well in Ultraman Rising. That they're on Earth as equalizer, sometimes against alien invasion, and sometimes against humans themselves.
With all due respect, Jeff's opinion feels like an uninformed take in broad strokes. Not all monsters in the franchise are victims. In fact, only a handful of iconic ones actually fit the bill. More than often (especially post-Showa) they are either from an invasive alien species, malicious bioweapons, envoys of a cosmic destruction entity, and sometimes even literal spawns of evil. Thus generalizing them as "poor puppies being kicked around by a bad hero" is disingenuous. Worst case scenario, they're oversized wild animals that may endanger civilians thus had to be put down - which usually when is the case, is always criticized by the show's own narrative sooner or later. As a matter of fact, this was the whole point of Ultraman Gaia and Ultraman Z.
I only watched a little bit of ultraman from the 90's. I think at one point Utraman had a cameo with the power rangers? Anyway just watched it and I already love the character. We NEED positive father figures in media these days and Ken is a great example for new fathers and a good reconnecting with his own father.
Oddly mirroring Shin Godzilla and Minus One in that Shin was focused on the bureaucratic perspective while Minus One was exclusively personal. These dualities are gonna make some great double features...
Spiritually yes, but Godzilla is Toho and Ultraman is Tsuburaya, copyright would not allow it. Still thinking about Ultraman as being a sequel to Shin is not a bad way to think of them, that seems to be the intent of the creators.
@@patroclusilliad233 And Shin Kamen Rider too Would make so much sense for Taki being Kaminaga who lost his memories as Ultra, and place as agent, with Hideki Akasaka(Yutaka Takenouchi character in Shin Gojira, Anno stated he originally intended the officer played by former is meant as reprise of the character) monitors his action should he have any strange moments
No, the difference is that unlike Godzilla in which one is a banger and the other is... divisive to say the least (not saying I hate GxK but man people are warring over it), Ultraman at least kept it consistent with two bangers (although they're still nothing on Minus One... can't be helped)
@@GaiusIntrepidus Hey, Gxk isn't a bad film either, and it deserves all the attention too, it's not because the script is weak that the film in general is bad, it delivered exactly what was promised from the first teaser It's his style banger
I never saw ultraman, only in toy ads as a kid, I grew up with power rangers and even if they went and said "yea red got a kaiju kid" as they did in this film I would still watch it and like it. I can't stress enough how fathers don't get good well thought movies, may not be the meka of movies, but I felt a lot of emotions watching it :3
Both Shin Ultraman and Ultraman Rising represent hope, but in two different coats. Shin is more philosophical, more observant of it's themes, Rising on the other hand is personal, we see characters genuinely take on drastic changes, we can genuinely relate to them on a fundamentally intimate level.
As much as I love the Ultraman Rising movie, I still prefer Shin Ultraman. God I love that movie to death :D
@@matthewsfilmzone9691 of course u would like it u got turned into a giant sun robot instead of a space dinosaur like in the originals
@@Galberosfaithtout of topic, but Ultraman is either an alien or mystical giant not a robot, and I don't think anyone turns into a giant dinosaur in "the originals" unless you woke up feeling like you wanna gaslight this guy.
@@GaiusIntrepidus I think he's joking about @matthewsfilmzone9691 Zetton pfp, who in Shin Ultraman is a big sun robot instead of the originals dinosaur monster
mf literally died for our sins fr
Shin is Ultraman learning what it means to be human.
Rising is a human learning what it means to be Ultraman.
I loved them both.
Basically shin is the story of ken father, since he metioned that his mom teach him how to be human.
This was the perfect movie for Father's Day.
I thought this movie was great for what it was trynna do
It wasn't another repetitive,recreation of the old but instead a brand new,fresh piece of ultra media for old fans,and quite possibly the greatest starting point for new fans
Regardless of repetition I think the world needed to be reminded of how inspiring Ultraman can be from Shin Ultraman, it really says something when the guy who made as bleak a work as Evangelion and I suppose also Shin Godzilla had that much faith and reverance in classic ultraman and what the hero stood for that he chose Ultraman to stay as he remembered while the world was the one modernized and cynical of the hero.
Rising just did it in a different way. Though I think the movie would be able to bridge the gap between the very young fans just being introduced to Ultraman and the older ones through its themes and story.
on the topic of the TV shows, Ultraman Blazar is an absolutely amazing reiwa Ultra, it feels like a Showa era Ultra show in terms of it's storytelling and i've never had as much enjoyment with reiwa ultras as much as i did with watching Blazar's run, i can't recommend it enough
Blazar was awesome. Even if it did fall back on the formula these newer shows follow a bit, it felt like it was really striving to be something new and fresh. It did a lot of things differently and it was a blast to see it unfold. Loved that show.
@@ShinGlassman054 the only Ultra shows I've watched to completion have been OG and Ultraseven, and I did notice the vibe was similar but with actual character development
I love both. Its great we have two different styles of ultra content.
Its crazy that the power rangers dino thunder megazord showed up on the movie
his name is BAKURYU GATTAI ABARENOH
Really? Nice to see other mecha than the MMPR one all the time. Forever
the only beef I have with Shin Ultraman was the lack of "shuwatch" sound effect
@@Mardanzo Agreed
It's done to make Ultraman feel more eerie/mysterious,
But yeah a "Shuwatch" won't hurt Anno........
Imagine if this Ultraman met the other Ultraman who got his own Netflix Show as in the guy with the robotic suit and the wannabes who's got the same suit as him?
Oh you mean Shinjiro? Yeah, he's somewhat of a different case. So here's the thing:
Reason why Kenji is able to become an Ultra himself is because his dad was an Ultra himself. Yeah, he came from the land of light, he is just doing what Seven and Mebius did, make his own human form. Because of that he was probably successful in passing down his Ultra genes to Kenji.
Shinjiro on the other hand, is the son of Shin Hayata who had parted with his version of Ultraman long before he was born. Note, this timeline is an alternate timeline to the OG Showa verse. Because of that, Shinjiro could be considered a hybrid, since he is more half human and half Ultra. It's important to remember that Ultraman and Shin Hayata are two different people, Ultraman just had Shin Hayata as a host and as a result, Shin indirectly passed the Ultra genes to his son
TLDR, both Shinjiro and Kenji had VERY different circumstances to their birth and how that played into their powers. Simply put, Kenji's the son of an actual alien while Shinjiro is more like an inheritor of the alien that fused with his father, giving him the powers of an Ultra without becoming one
I watch this movie very skeptical assuming was going to butcher the entire Ultraman franchise...............................and ended LOVING THIS FILM SO DAMN MUCH......this is what true subvention looks like
I like this take on Ultraman so much more than the ones in Japan, he has a heart. I feel like a lot of Shōwa Ultras would have killed the baby anyway. A kinder gentler Ultra that isn't just Cosmos is one that the series needs for me personally to truly care. I always feel so sorry for the kaiju getting fucking brutalized before finally put down ( and most Ultra's often capable of just batting the monsters around and the kaiju can't even put up a fight back makes it even worse). Godzilla artist Jeff Zornow put it best on X back in March where for a lot of us that have sympathy for the kaiju is very hard to be an Ultraman fan cause it feels like the so called "Hero" is kicking puppies to death Also those of us that feel that way are often watching Ultraman for the kaiju themselves and not the Ultra ( and I will be the first to admit that the lead Ultra of whatever series Bandai Namco ahs spit out that year is my least favorite part
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I believe once or twice, when they're not dealing with obviously malicious kaijuus (oftentime invading alien or engineered lifeform, oftentime by alien hands), ultramans always seem to put destroying/killing the kaijuu as last resorts. Especially when said kaijuu is a part of endemic legend, or simply innocent/has no malicious intent.
Granted, the malicious kind often outnumber the episodes where the current ultraman spares the kaijuu they fight (mostly because it's the driving force of the narration) , but these rare episodes of the ultras trying to solve the problem in other way than making the kaijuu explode should still count.
Even before Cosmos, this kind of plot also occasionally happen.
I think this rarely seen visage of Ultramans are shown very well in Ultraman Rising.
That they're on Earth as equalizer, sometimes against alien invasion, and sometimes against humans themselves.
With all due respect, Jeff's opinion feels like an uninformed take in broad strokes.
Not all monsters in the franchise are victims. In fact, only a handful of iconic ones actually fit the bill.
More than often (especially post-Showa) they are either from an invasive alien species, malicious bioweapons, envoys of a cosmic destruction entity, and sometimes even literal spawns of evil. Thus generalizing them as "poor puppies being kicked around by a bad hero" is disingenuous.
Worst case scenario, they're oversized wild animals that may endanger civilians thus had to be put down - which usually when is the case, is always criticized by the show's own narrative sooner or later.
As a matter of fact, this was the whole point of Ultraman Gaia and Ultraman Z.
A modern Netflix instant classic ❤⭐️
I only watched a little bit of ultraman from the 90's. I think at one point Utraman had a cameo with the power rangers? Anyway just watched it and I already love the character. We NEED positive father figures in media these days and Ken is a great example for new fathers and a good reconnecting with his own father.
Oddly mirroring Shin Godzilla and Minus One in that Shin was focused on the bureaucratic perspective while Minus One was exclusively personal. These dualities are gonna make some great double features...
i thought shin ultraman was in the same universe as shin godzilla or it was connected
Spiritually yes, but Godzilla is Toho and Ultraman is Tsuburaya, copyright would not allow it. Still thinking about Ultraman as being a sequel to Shin is not a bad way to think of them, that seems to be the intent of the creators.
@@patroclusilliad233
And Shin Kamen Rider too
Would make so much sense for Taki being Kaminaga who lost his memories as Ultra, and place as agent, with Hideki Akasaka(Yutaka Takenouchi character in Shin Gojira, Anno stated he originally intended the officer played by former is meant as reprise of the character) monitors his action should he have any strange moments
I kinda love that these movies show the range of Ultraman (BTW, Rising is my favorite ones, I'm sorry but Baby Kaiju is Baby)
No it's the yin to shin ultraman's yang basically both are opposites but both are also similar and good
That's what being an antithesis means. To be the opposite of the thesis, but one that needs to exist in order to form a synthesis.
@@ThyFloorestFloor ohhhhhhhhh I didn't know that but now I know
🎶GI JOEEEEEE🎶
@@genesismultiverse4896 Glad to be of service.
Godzilla Minus One and Godzilla x Kong all again!
No, the difference is that unlike Godzilla in which one is a banger and the other is... divisive to say the least (not saying I hate GxK but man people are warring over it), Ultraman at least kept it consistent with two bangers (although they're still nothing on Minus One... can't be helped)
@@GaiusIntrepidus Hey, Gxk isn't a bad film either, and it deserves all the attention too, it's not because the script is weak that the film in general is bad, it delivered exactly what was promised from the first teaser It's his style banger
@@Still.the.best.2021hence why I said divisive, it's like Final Wars all over again, some hate it, some love it.
@@GaiusIntrepidus hmmmmm I think it depends a lot on the quantity
Wait what? You only have 700 subs I actually thought you had over a million because this is amazing like I watch so many commentary videos
I didn't knew anything about Ultraman going in other but I ended up loving the movie!
3:37 now we need shin ultra Q as a longer version of the recap at the beginning which would be a mashup of *all* the Episodes
I would love that so much!
@@ShinGlassman054 my Favorite ultra Q Monster IS mammoth flower
@@e2011ugdia That’s a good one. Good episode too. Mine has gotta be Garamon, solely because it became the Pigmon suit.
I never saw ultraman, only in toy ads as a kid, I grew up with power rangers and even if they went and said "yea red got a kaiju kid" as they did in this film I would still watch it and like it. I can't stress enough how fathers don't get good well thought movies, may not be the meka of movies, but I felt a lot of emotions watching it :3
Making the impossible possible that's what it means to be an Ultraman.
Rising is better than shin for the most part simply because it has actual characters.
Amazing movie
Yes! And i loved it
Uh
Shin't Ultraman
its not an ultraman movie. its family drama. it doesnt need to be ultraman at all he can be any other hero and it still the same.