My mind is blown. I never really looked into either of these but I kept seeing Unfair and Funfair and really thought I was seeing things because the name kept changing and I thoughtt it was the same game. Thank you for the education, entertainment and for sharing your lives with us. You folks are the bee's knees.
Hahahaha! I love this... so glad we could help clarify! Thanks for watching as always Ilya & Tylor, we appreciate your supportive words & friendship always. Hope you had a great weekend!
Wow! We are on the same wavelength. I just picked up Funfair, Unfair, the Unfair expansion, and Meeple Land about two weeks ago. I haven't had a chance to dig into Unfair yet, but I'm glad you seemed to love it. I absolutely love theme parks, so these games were right up my alley. I almost got Danger Park too, but that may be some overkill. As always, great work!
@@darlene7165 Hi Darlene! It looks like it comes with four more theme packs (Alien, B-Movie, Dinosaur, and Western). I haven't opened it yet, but I don't think there are public objectives. Can't wait to try this game out.
@@darlene7165 Unfair will eventually have 26 theme packs - 1 for each letter of the alphabet (except i). Each expansion brings 4 new theme packs with some unique cards & new rule mechanisms to mix in for huge replayability, as its a modular game. eg the Gangster theme allows all sort of illegal fiscal activities, the B-Movie theme adds panoramic attraction scoring, and Dinosaurs adds a whole new type of upgrade - Dinosaurs!
I have not played either one, so just listening for the wonderfully pleasant Thinkery Themery. Always nice to see you two pop up with a new video to watch!
My girlfriend and I LOVE Unfair! It's one of our favourite games to play against each other. We get so competitive and get way too much enjoyment out of destroying each other's plans (not sure what that says about us but oh well lol). I picked up Funfair in case we ever want to play with people who we don't want to hate us afterwards, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. There is also an expansion to Unfair with a few new theme decks if you're ever looking for more variety. Glad to see you are both feeling better as well!
We are so glad to hear that you both love this one too Shelby! It is a great two player game and we are excited to pick up the expansions. And did you read in the comments that there are more to come? One pack for every letter of the alphabet.... !!! Thanks for watching and all of your support of the channel
@@ThinkerThemer I hadn't seen that they were doing that many expansions - that's awesome! Thanks for the heads up! And I'm more than happy to support all the awesome content you two have been making. I've really enjoyed chatting about games with you and with the rest of the wonderful community you've created!
Your reviews are amazing and the dynamic between you and Alicia is so magical. By the way I have noticed she is sounding more and more like a heavy gamer as the series goes on....!!! You are slowly winning this battle friend. Miss chatting, hope you're doing well x
Thanks for another great review! I backed Unfair years ago because I love theme parks. We only played it twice (two-player). It has sat on the shelf since because it was just way too mean for our tastes. I am intrigued by Funfair, but it lacks the cool theme packs from Unfair. I would love to see these two games merged somehow in the future so that we can have the best elements from both without the take that mechanics.
Thanks for backing Unfair. Did you ever try it with the World Peace game changer that cancels all player attacks? We know many couples who play that way and still love the game. Maybe dust off Unfair and give that a try? Funfair comes with 4 integrated theme packs, with new card abilities, strategies and scoring methods (the public Award). So for you both I imagine it would feel like a tighter friendlier Unfair expansion straight out of the box.
@@kimbrebach9246 I really appreciate the reply. Yes, as I recall our first game was played with the World Peace special rule in place and then the second game was played without it. That second game was pretty brutal and we haven’t played it since. However, this has inspired me to definitely take another look at Unfair using the World Peace rule. Thank you!
Thanks for the lovely feedback Stephen! And for helping us learn about the World Peace rule for playing Unfair fairly! I think I'll keep that to myself and not tell Maggie... he he he he he
With this video I'm completely caught up! I've watched all your content and In a pretty cool coincidence finished on a video about two games with the theme of the industry I work in. I haven't found a theme park game yet that I've liked so I didn't look twice at these, But now I want to. I Definitely can't do unfair with my wife though or I'll get the angry silent treatment for days haha. I really like the idea of the theme smash up for variability.
There's still plenty of variability in Funfair, and many ways to win in about 30 - 40 mins for 2 players. Then, if you both love it then its worth considering Unfair too. Its more challenging and endlessly variable, but you dont HAVE to play nasty. In fact most couples don't at all. There is an official game changer card you can choose to use that stops attacks on each other. And there are many ways to mitigate the bad stuff that does happen. Its part of the challenge of Unfair.
Going through all of our back catalogue of videos with variable camera and audio quality is a thrill ride rollercoaster attraction in and of itself Aaron So impressed you got through them all. But more importantly... you work in/on theme parks? What! We must know more!
@@ThinkerThemer haha I thought it was endearing watching the channel's evolution. You two have certainly honed your craft but the best part, your banter has always been there! Yes I have worked in the Theme Park industry for about a decade and ive worked on most major parks all over the world. Disney World, Disneyland, just about all the Universal Studios parks, Motiongate in Dubai, all kinds of stuff. I had to quit doing the large scale things due to a medical issue but I'm still sculpting for smaller projects and the last theme park I worked on was a 1920s Carnival Midway in Edmonton Alberta. I can share some more on discord :)
Unfair is one of my favorite games, and one that I believe deserves way more attention than it has gotten. I very much agree with you about wishing Unfair made end-game public objectives available like in Funfair! Great review you two!
Jeffrey, thanks for sharing its one of your favorite games! Additional support like this really helps me with my decision! Hopefully they will add an expansion with additional theme decks and public objectives!
It is a great game Jeffrey! We were so surprised by it because we hadn't heard too much about it either. Thanks for the kind words and for watching and taking the time to comment
And that is the second time you mention kicking down Maggie’s sand castle Amy... Should we start getting worried 😉? I’m still not sure which of the two I would prefer. So I have to dig a little bit deeper, before I make a decision. I think it will heavily depend on the people we will play this with, rather than my own personal opinion. Thank you for bringing another very, very joyful and informative review! Oh... And love the paint job on the miniature. It’s time I start picking up painting our own board game miniatures again. But, sigh, time... 🇳🇱Pascal🦘
I promise I'm really quite nice to her :D I'm excited to see more of your painting on the Discord as you get back into it Pascal....!!! Thank you for being such a positive voice here at our channel and for all of your support
Awesome comparison of these two games! When I did the same, I also ended up on the side of Unfair 😃 It's really special when you get the right packs together! I loved the Alien, Dinosaur, and B-Movie themes from the expansion! Thanks for such a fun video ❤️
We can't wait to try the expansion Devon...! Thanks for dropping by to watch. Maybe one day we'll get to sit down to a game of Unfair with you and Sarah from the Board Game BBQ and just enjoy being really, really mean to each other. 😂
Unfair wins hands down for my group too. Been awhile since we played it but we all enjoyed it a lot. Very unlikely that we'll get Funfair. Speaking of take that mechanic, I'm still reeling from the shock of Innovations and my friend managed to get his hands on the expansion so that should be good. Our first play of Dune Imperium was great! And I'm not just saying cos I won, the Intrigue cards really helped. Getting the right ones at the right time helped. I played the faction with the lady that gives you water every time you play the sigil? card. I'm slowly but surely moving up your Why Own It list! Have a good weekend!
Sorry for the delayed reply Melvin!!! And I did see your comment on the Innovation video. You're so right that it has take that but I think that because it is so constant and crazy and unpredictable it doesn't feel like I'm as attached to my player area. I think Maggie gets most upset in games where she spends so much of it building her own little world and then someone upsets it. In Innovation you rarely get that chance. I was also thinking that we only usually play it two player and so there's no choice in who you pick on either .... I always find the take that tougher when someone specifically chooses me to attack... especially if I'm not coming first! grrrrrrrrr Lol.... I'm glad to hear that your group enjoys Unfair! I think if you own and love that one you'll probably not need to play Funfair as it is largely the same game but lighter and friendlier. I'm glad also that you liked Dune Imperium!! When we were playing it those Intrigue cards really helped me too (Maggie hated them for that reason he he he). Hope you had a great weekend and thanks for watching & your support as always :)
I feel seen. 😊 The description you gave of losing multiple blueprints through a series of unfair events is exactly what has happened to me. I definitely have a unique love/hate relationship with this game 😂. I always want to come back after a loss to “do it better next time”. Thanks for the comparison/review!
Lucky or unlucky, fair or unfair. The way you bring it... the Unfair version sounds much more fun. Not sure if I would be a fair loser, if I would be edged like you did Maggie. But man, the prospect of going to the fences with all players around the table. it could be something. You have me intrigued.
Hahaha! I think where take that games get really brutal is where there are multiple players all ganging up on one player! I do prefer groups with an unspoken agreement about avoiding that in games... deal out the pain evenly... lol. Thanks for watching Sebastian as always and your support of the channel
Mark Unfair has 8 rounds compared to Funfair's 6. Attacks are generally relatively rare in Unfair, but you can always play with the World Peace game changer card which prevents players attacking each other... officially.
Thanks so much Mark! Sounds like you would rather play with Maggie than me...she is much nicer... Lol!!! No actually we did enjoy our first games where we were nice to each other. You could definitely play Unfair that way. Thank you for your support of the channel
Excellent review! I only played Unfair once, and it wasn't really for me. I don't want anyone kicking my sandcastle! :P I suspect a friend in my game group will pick up Funfair, so I'll give it a try. I do like some light games, and I definitely like the theme park theme :D
Thank you Luke! I think I could guess that it wouldn't be for you... I know you are a rahdo-esque care bear! :) Hope you've had a great weekend and were able to spend it hiking or doing something else fun!
@@ThinkerThemer It's strange. I don't mind "take that" in some situations. Like in Magic, I'm fine with the head-to-head battle for some reason. I'm not sure if that's because I learned Magic so long ago, and my tastes have changed, but not for Magic. I suspect it depends on the game. Euro games often have you building something up,. and maybe I don't enjoy others tearing my creation down. Plus I don't like "king/queen" making, so maybe if it's just 2-player or 2 teams, it feels less personal? Not really sure. Hmm... I did have a good weekend! I played online games with one of my game groups. We had fun playing some lighter games on boardgamearena. Good times! Hope you and Maggie are enjoying your week! I'm behind and still have to watch your Small Talk video. I'll try to catch up. See ya later! :D
Great review and compare/contrast of the two games! I'm not a fan of take that and I do get sad when one of those happen to me. I try not to use those mechanics whenever I can. Ausonia, a card game that just delivered has a few take that cards. The first time I was surprised and sad when one got played, but by the second game, saw that sometimes it is the only way to slow your opponent down before they run off with an early win. Ausonia is a great little game by the way. It is good to see you both chipper, so you are hopefully both feeling right as rain again. Have a great weekend!
It is so good to see them feeling better! On my last game of Terraforming Mars, I actually removed take that cards. It is frustrating to play a long game and get hit with take that cards that slow you down. Someone told I probably made it more unbalanced. But truth is TM has so many cards that those take that cards don’t always show up. So it didn’t feel unbalanced at all. I have not seen Ausonia. I will have to look that one up!
I remember seeing the Ausonia box but I didn't know much about the game!! Sounds like it has the right amount of take that for you Mindy. I felt as though the sting of the Unfair cards was fairly fleeting - Maggie not so much lol... lucky the thematic experience of it all outweighed the take that for her!! Thanks for watching as always and your support of the channel ❤
I like Maggie's sweater. Unfair has been sitting on my shelf of opportunity for at least three years now. I have been waiting for the solo mode which is said to be part of the next Kickstarter. Looking forward to being able to get it to the table in the near future. Enjoyed the review and comparison.
Big fan of Unfair! Not a game for sore losers haha. I kind of like the take-that features, in our games it has helped keep anyone from getting a runaway lead and you can tweak the deck combos to vary the meanness 😁 It's a shame they didn't make Funfair an expand-alone so we'd have the option to combine it with Unfair, but I can understand that there would have been a lot of difficulty in doing that. Great video as always, you guys do amazing reviews.
Mic, thanks for sharing your huge support of Unfair! It really helps me make my decisions in addition to their awesome review and videos! I now see a few people in the comments who love it and that is great! That is a really cool thought on Funfair as an expansion. But I too see they were going for family weight game. Hopefully they will add public objectives and more theme decks! Love the ability to vary a little bit of the theme from game to game!
Thanks! Yeah Unfair is by design a mid weight tableau & engine building game where you CAN mess with your rival's engine... IF that's the best strategic move to stop runaway leaders. Experienced players learn that you have to carefully weigh up the unstoppable benefits of boosting your own park against everyone against the risk of attacking one player (and being blocked or counterattacked). Many but not all gamers enjoy that interaction... and for those that don't, Funfair gives you a slightly lighter, tighter, faster & friendlier theme park building experience with only positive interactions. An yeah we had to change enough things in Funfair to create that very specific experience, that we couldn't integrate the 2 games (different card costs and abilities and simplified income calculations and more). While we don't currently plan on expanding Funfair itself, as you likely know there will be plenty more Unfair expansions. The Comicbook, Hacker, Kaiju & Ocean expansion is in late playtesting as we speak! So look out for the upcoming Kickstarter.
Great point about the runaway lead mitigation Mic!! Glad to hear you enjoy the game as much as we do! Thank you also for the kind words about our reviews - we still feel very new to this so that means a lot to us. Thanks for taking the time to comment 🥰
Another great #ThinkerThemer review and video! You both look like you are feeling better and I am so happy to see that! I actually had both of these games in my cart at one time, waiting to decide which to get. Now, this may sound opposite to what I posted last week about not caring for take that mechanic but I feel it is different when the whole game is built around it. Games that are mostly engine building with a few take that cards thrown in are so frustrating! But this...this sounds more enjoyable if everyone going in realizes this game is UNFAIR! I love a game, that is not a party game, that makes you laugh. I also love that you combine two different theme decks. I love being able to change a piece of the theme. So cool! That piece reminds me a little of Smash Up, combing two random decks. That is a very different game of course, but I like choosing your two decks for theme and tactics. Do you think they will make additional theme decks to add to this game? Sounds like expansion opportunity along with public objectives! That would be cool for more choices! Plus, I love that is good at 2 players. I am hoping it is not too crunchy for Laura to play! I think my decision is made. Unfair for the theme park win! My favorite quote in the video, “There was a hugging moment…I had to hug her”. So cute and adorable! Thank you for sharing those moments! Warms my heart. And I am so excited, my little #joey icon beside my name grew up today! He is 1 month old!! Such a great community #joeyfam! Congrats on one month strong on your RUclips membership channel. For iPhone/iPad readers on my comment...If you don’t see the join button use your browser and make sure it renders the desktop version of the RUclips website! 🦘🦘
Unfair will eventually have 26 theme packs - 1 for each letter of the alphabet (except i). Each expansion brings 4 new theme packs with some unique cards & new rule mechanisms to mix in for huge replayability, as its a modular game. eg the Gangster theme allows all sort of illegal fiscal activities, the B-Movie theme adds panoramic attraction scoring, and Dinosaurs adds a whole new type of upgrade - Dinosaurs!
@@kimbrebach9246 Thank you so much! That is awesome to know! Now I am really excited about it! I have seen in it the past, but Amy and Maggie just have a way of pulling you right into the game! So cool there are going to be lots of extra theme packs. I just love the idea of the variability you can have for each game. Having the ability to adjust or change the theme, just a little is great! Thank you so much. Are you by chance with Good Games? Thank you so very much for joining us in the comments! We really appreciate it!
@@darlene7165 no problems at all. Yes the I am with Good Games Publishing. Always like to stay active in comments of new reviews to help answer questions. And yes I loved Amy and Maggies obvious excitement and enjoyment as they talked about their Funfair & Unfair experiences here. They certainly sound memorable ones! No game is for everyone but good reviewers help you work out if this or that is for you or not. And Thinker Themer does a fantastic job of that.
@@kimbrebach9246 so glad you stopped by with all the great support! It’s awesome to see and interact with someone from the publishing company! I could go on and on about Amy and Maggie, but I will just say they are the best! I have officially ordered Unfair and the expansion! I am looking forward to playing it!
Darlene I am so late to this comment but glad Kim was able to tell you more about the expansions...! AND I saw what happened on Discord - - - you now have a copy of Funfair and the expansion for Unfair?? Oh dear!! Maybe that was fate giving you a helping hand to get Laura into the game series by starting with the lighter option? 🤔If you end up trying both I look forward to hearing your (unintended) comparison review....! Thanks for the kind words about the channel and community, we love your warmth and positivity and are so happy to have you here.
So excited for this review! Have been wanting to get Unfair for us, but I don't like Take That, though my son loves it! This gives me a choice. Thanks. Fun video. Hope you have a great weekend....now that you're feeling better.
Thank you Andrea!! I'm glad we could help explain the differences a bit more. Hope you have had a wonderful weekend and got some game time in with Jonah!
I love your channel! We started with Funfair and are currently awaiting Unfair from a math trade, so we clearly love this game. ❤️ I think Unfair will edge out Funfair for us, but we will keep it to play with our kiddo. The art in this game is 🤩. Love the break down of the two! Nice job!
Aw yay! Thanks so much Stephanie! Loved reading about your experiences with Funfair and I think you'll find Unfair even more engaging / deeper (oh and of course, meaner hehe). We like the variability of the decks. Thanks for taking the time to comment and the lovely words about the channel ☺
Oooh yes! Unfair looks like my kind of game. I love games that serve up the schadenfreude on a platter. And I really admire Maggie for being able to roll with the meanness of games like Unfair even when she does feel the pain of it more intensely than many people. You guys should get her a tiny violin that she can give to whoever is being mean to her, and say "you might as well play this for me, too, to rub it in!" 😁
HAHAHA oh, I don't think she rolls with it as well as you think she does. If the violin came out Maggie would be storming off to bed and that game would never see the light of day again Lol...! I'm glad you like the look of Unfair, we have had a lot of fun with it, and zero full storm outs. :D
about the mini did you prime the whole thing black, gray, white, zenethal? also i have been wanting to ask do you use a spray can to prime or do you own an air brush? if so i have been thinking about getting one is there one you suggest (im in the US)
I used a spray can here of white primer. I do own an airbrush and want to do more zenathal priming but on this occasion it was just one mini per box so I didn't bother setting up! Maggie bought it for me for Christmas so I didn't do the research but it is a Harder & Steenbeck. It is nice to use but I haven't explored painting with it enough. About to start Rising Sun though!! All the best for your painting adventures 🥰
Glad to see the talk on the differences. I enjoyed my play of Undair but knew it wouldn’t go over well with the majority of people I played games with. Excited to try out Funfair though. That might be more up their alley.
Great review, I was a little surprised you preferred UNFAIR but at the end of the day if its the better game/deeper/more challenging then I can see that this overrode the take that elements that you might normally avoid.
Thank you Paul...! Yes there is plenty of game there and there is more building than destroying overall so it is satisfying and a lot of fun. Appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching this one and taking the time to comment
Thanks so much for the kind words Dominique!! I think we would still like Unfair. Especially me (Amy) because of the higher level of player interaction! It would be great if they made themed packs for funfair though... that would ensure it could stay fresh for the fans! Thanks for watching this one ❤
Hahahaha could've just said this instead of dragging out the review Sean!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment as always :) hope you had a great weekend!
My mind is blown. I never really looked into either of these but I kept seeing Unfair and Funfair and really thought I was seeing things because the name kept changing and I thoughtt it was the same game. Thank you for the education, entertainment and for sharing your lives with us. You folks are the bee's knees.
Hahahaha! I love this... so glad we could help clarify! Thanks for watching as always Ilya & Tylor, we appreciate your supportive words & friendship always. Hope you had a great weekend!
Wow! We are on the same wavelength. I just picked up Funfair, Unfair, the Unfair expansion, and Meeple Land about two weeks ago. I haven't had a chance to dig into Unfair yet, but I'm glad you seemed to love it. I absolutely love theme parks, so these games were right up my alley. I almost got Danger Park too, but that may be some overkill. As always, great work!
Very curious what the Unfair expansion delivers? More theme decks? Public Objectives? 🤔
@@darlene7165 Hi Darlene! It looks like it comes with four more theme packs (Alien, B-Movie, Dinosaur, and Western). I haven't opened it yet, but I don't think there are public objectives. Can't wait to try this game out.
@@craiggruesome6400 OMG, I am sold! Gonna look for all of it online later today!
@@darlene7165 Unfair will eventually have 26 theme packs - 1 for each letter of the alphabet (except i). Each expansion brings 4 new theme packs with some unique cards & new rule mechanisms to mix in for huge replayability, as its a modular game. eg the Gangster theme allows all sort of illegal fiscal activities, the B-Movie theme adds panoramic attraction scoring, and Dinosaurs adds a whole new type of upgrade - Dinosaurs!
@@kimbrebach9246 So awesome! I am definitely sold now! Thanks Kim for joining us in the comments and providing more insight to these games!
I have not played either one, so just listening for the wonderfully pleasant Thinkery Themery. Always nice to see you two pop up with a new video to watch!
Thank you for always watching Steve!!
My girlfriend and I LOVE Unfair! It's one of our favourite games to play against each other. We get so competitive and get way too much enjoyment out of destroying each other's plans (not sure what that says about us but oh well lol). I picked up Funfair in case we ever want to play with people who we don't want to hate us afterwards, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. There is also an expansion to Unfair with a few new theme decks if you're ever looking for more variety. Glad to see you are both feeling better as well!
We are so glad to hear that you both love this one too Shelby! It is a great two player game and we are excited to pick up the expansions. And did you read in the comments that there are more to come? One pack for every letter of the alphabet.... !!! Thanks for watching and all of your support of the channel
@@ThinkerThemer I hadn't seen that they were doing that many expansions - that's awesome! Thanks for the heads up! And I'm more than happy to support all the awesome content you two have been making. I've really enjoyed chatting about games with you and with the rest of the wonderful community you've created!
great reviews, you've totally sold me on Unfair - at least you know what you're in for!
Thanks so much Rob for taking the time to comment with the lovely feedback! Hope you enjoy the take that action!! 😊
Thanks Maggie and Amy for another wonderful review! Glad to see you both feeling better!
Thank you Cis!!! We appreciate you watching and all of your support of the channel 😊
Entertaining video and the painted mini looks really nice! (P.S. Maggie's top is fab!)
Thank you James!! I told Maggie this too and she LOVES the love of her tops! Thanks for watching the review & for your support of the channel
I absolutely love how you guys express and thoroughly explain your thought about games. I strive to get you guy's level😁
Your reviews are amazing and the dynamic between you and Alicia is so magical. By the way I have noticed she is sounding more and more like a heavy gamer as the series goes on....!!! You are slowly winning this battle friend. Miss chatting, hope you're doing well x
Thanks for another great review! I backed Unfair years ago because I love theme parks. We only played it twice (two-player). It has sat on the shelf since because it was just way too mean for our tastes. I am intrigued by Funfair, but it lacks the cool theme packs from Unfair. I would love to see these two games merged somehow in the future so that we can have the best elements from both without the take that mechanics.
Thanks for backing Unfair. Did you ever try it with the World Peace game changer that cancels all player attacks? We know many couples who play that way and still love the game. Maybe dust off Unfair and give that a try?
Funfair comes with 4 integrated theme packs, with new card abilities, strategies and scoring methods (the public Award). So for you both I imagine it would feel like a tighter friendlier Unfair expansion straight out of the box.
@@kimbrebach9246 I really appreciate the reply. Yes, as I recall our first game was played with the World Peace special rule in place and then the second game was played without it. That second game was pretty brutal and we haven’t played it since. However, this has inspired me to definitely take another look at Unfair using the World Peace rule. Thank you!
@@StephenGrubb No problem! Stay safe and game responsibly :)
Thanks for the lovely feedback Stephen! And for helping us learn about the World Peace rule for playing Unfair fairly! I think I'll keep that to myself and not tell Maggie... he he he he he
@@ThinkerThemer LOL! Now that's funny! :)
With this video I'm completely caught up! I've watched all your content and In a pretty cool coincidence finished on a video about two games with the theme of the industry I work in. I haven't found a theme park game yet that I've liked so I didn't look twice at these, But now I want to. I Definitely can't do unfair with my wife though or I'll get the angry silent treatment for days haha. I really like the idea of the theme smash up for variability.
There's still plenty of variability in Funfair, and many ways to win in about 30 - 40 mins for 2 players. Then, if you both love it then its worth considering Unfair too. Its more challenging and endlessly variable, but you dont HAVE to play nasty. In fact most couples don't at all. There is an official game changer card you can choose to use that stops attacks on each other. And there are many ways to mitigate the bad stuff that does happen. Its part of the challenge of Unfair.
Going through all of our back catalogue of videos with variable camera and audio quality is a thrill ride rollercoaster attraction in and of itself Aaron So impressed you got through them all. But more importantly... you work in/on theme parks? What! We must know more!
@@ThinkerThemer haha I thought it was endearing watching the channel's evolution. You two have certainly honed your craft but the best part, your banter has always been there! Yes I have worked in the Theme Park industry for about a decade and ive worked on most major parks all over the world. Disney World, Disneyland, just about all the Universal Studios parks, Motiongate in Dubai, all kinds of stuff. I had to quit doing the large scale things due to a medical issue but I'm still sculpting for smaller projects and the last theme park I worked on was a 1920s Carnival Midway in Edmonton Alberta. I can share some more on discord :)
Unfair is one of my favorite games, and one that I believe deserves way more attention than it has gotten. I very much agree with you about wishing Unfair made end-game public objectives available like in Funfair! Great review you two!
Jeffrey, thanks for sharing its one of your favorite games! Additional support like this really helps me with my decision! Hopefully they will add an expansion with additional theme decks and public objectives!
It is a great game Jeffrey! We were so surprised by it because we hadn't heard too much about it either. Thanks for the kind words and for watching and taking the time to comment
And that is the second time you mention kicking down Maggie’s sand castle Amy... Should we start getting worried 😉?
I’m still not sure which of the two I would prefer. So I have to dig a little bit deeper, before I make a decision. I think it will heavily depend on the people we will play this with, rather than my own personal opinion.
Thank you for bringing another very, very joyful and informative review!
Oh... And love the paint job on the miniature. It’s time I start picking up painting our own board game miniatures again. But, sigh, time...
🇳🇱Pascal🦘
I promise I'm really quite nice to her :D
I'm excited to see more of your painting on the Discord as you get back into it Pascal....!!! Thank you for being such a positive voice here at our channel and for all of your support
Awesome comparison of these two games! When I did the same, I also ended up on the side of Unfair 😃 It's really special when you get the right packs together! I loved the Alien, Dinosaur, and B-Movie themes from the expansion! Thanks for such a fun video ❤️
We can't wait to try the expansion Devon...! Thanks for dropping by to watch. Maybe one day we'll get to sit down to a game of Unfair with you and Sarah from the Board Game BBQ and just enjoy being really, really mean to each other. 😂
@@ThinkerThemer haha I'm up for it anytime! There is a TTS mod of it if you ever need to be mean from a distance 😂
Unfair wins hands down for my group too. Been awhile since we played it but we all enjoyed it a lot. Very unlikely that we'll get Funfair. Speaking of take that mechanic, I'm still reeling from the shock of Innovations and my friend managed to get his hands on the expansion so that should be good. Our first play of Dune Imperium was great! And I'm not just saying cos I won, the Intrigue cards really helped. Getting the right ones at the right time helped. I played the faction with the lady that gives you water every time you play the sigil? card. I'm slowly but surely moving up your Why Own It list! Have a good weekend!
Melvin, be prepared...their Why Own it videos may hurt your wallet! I enjoyed Dune Imperium as well! Have you played Lost Ruins of Arnak yet?
@@darlene7165 nope, have not played Arnak. Waiting for price to drop on Amazon.
Sorry for the delayed reply Melvin!!! And I did see your comment on the Innovation video. You're so right that it has take that but I think that because it is so constant and crazy and unpredictable it doesn't feel like I'm as attached to my player area. I think Maggie gets most upset in games where she spends so much of it building her own little world and then someone upsets it. In Innovation you rarely get that chance. I was also thinking that we only usually play it two player and so there's no choice in who you pick on either .... I always find the take that tougher when someone specifically chooses me to attack... especially if I'm not coming first! grrrrrrrrr Lol.... I'm glad to hear that your group enjoys Unfair! I think if you own and love that one you'll probably not need to play Funfair as it is largely the same game but lighter and friendlier. I'm glad also that you liked Dune Imperium!! When we were playing it those Intrigue cards really helped me too (Maggie hated them for that reason he he he). Hope you had a great weekend and thanks for watching & your support as always :)
I feel seen. 😊 The description you gave of losing multiple blueprints through a series of unfair events is exactly what has happened to me. I definitely have a unique love/hate relationship with this game 😂. I always want to come back after a loss to “do it better next time”. Thanks for the comparison/review!
I had Unfair, but I gave it away. I think I would actually enjoy Funfair more. Thanks ladies!!
Thanks for watching and your support Angela! Does that mean you're not a fan of take that in games?
I love Unfair, and can't wait to get my expansions to the table :-) Great comparison between the two.
Lucky or unlucky, fair or unfair. The way you bring it... the Unfair version sounds much more fun. Not sure if I would be a fair loser, if I would be edged like you did Maggie. But man, the prospect of going to the fences with all players around the table. it could be something. You have me intrigued.
Hahaha! I think where take that games get really brutal is where there are multiple players all ganging up on one player! I do prefer groups with an unspoken agreement about avoiding that in games... deal out the pain evenly... lol. Thanks for watching Sebastian as always and your support of the channel
Great review. Looks like I would like a version of Funfair that has themed decks and more rounds.
Mark Unfair has 8 rounds compared to Funfair's 6. Attacks are generally relatively rare in Unfair, but you can always play with the World Peace game changer card which prevents players attacking each other... officially.
Thanks so much Mark! Sounds like you would rather play with Maggie than me...she is much nicer... Lol!!! No actually we did enjoy our first games where we were nice to each other. You could definitely play Unfair that way. Thank you for your support of the channel
Excellent review! I only played Unfair once, and it wasn't really for me. I don't want anyone kicking my sandcastle! :P
I suspect a friend in my game group will pick up Funfair, so I'll give it a try. I do like some light games, and I definitely like the theme park theme :D
Thank you Luke! I think I could guess that it wouldn't be for you... I know you are a rahdo-esque care bear! :) Hope you've had a great weekend and were able to spend it hiking or doing something else fun!
@@ThinkerThemer It's strange. I don't mind "take that" in some situations. Like in Magic, I'm fine with the head-to-head battle for some reason. I'm not sure if that's because I learned Magic so long ago, and my tastes have changed, but not for Magic. I suspect it depends on the game. Euro games often have you building something up,. and maybe I don't enjoy others tearing my creation down. Plus I don't like "king/queen" making, so maybe if it's just 2-player or 2 teams, it feels less personal? Not really sure. Hmm...
I did have a good weekend! I played online games with one of my game groups. We had fun playing some lighter games on boardgamearena. Good times! Hope you and Maggie are enjoying your week! I'm behind and still have to watch your Small Talk video. I'll try to catch up. See ya later! :D
Great review and compare/contrast of the two games! I'm not a fan of take that and I do get sad when one of those happen to me. I try not to use those mechanics whenever I can. Ausonia, a card game that just delivered has a few take that cards. The first time I was surprised and sad when one got played, but by the second game, saw that sometimes it is the only way to slow your opponent down before they run off with an early win. Ausonia is a great little game by the way. It is good to see you both chipper, so you are hopefully both feeling right as rain again. Have a great weekend!
It is so good to see them feeling better! On my last game of Terraforming Mars, I actually removed take that cards. It is frustrating to play a long game and get hit with take that cards that slow you down. Someone told I probably made it more unbalanced. But truth is TM has so many cards that those take that cards don’t always show up. So it didn’t feel unbalanced at all. I have not seen Ausonia. I will have to look that one up!
@@darlene7165 It's a fun little deck builder. It was my first or second KS campaign and just delivered a few weeks ago. Tons of fun!
@@mindyfranke5279 That is awesome to hear! So glad you are happy with it. I do love a good deck builder!
I remember seeing the Ausonia box but I didn't know much about the game!! Sounds like it has the right amount of take that for you Mindy. I felt as though the sting of the Unfair cards was fairly fleeting - Maggie not so much lol... lucky the thematic experience of it all outweighed the take that for her!! Thanks for watching as always and your support of the channel ❤
I like Maggie's sweater. Unfair has been sitting on my shelf of opportunity for at least three years now. I have been waiting for the solo mode which is said to be part of the next Kickstarter. Looking forward to being able to get it to the table in the near future. Enjoyed the review and comparison.
Yes we are playtesting Unfair solo mode now. Is that your thing?
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Yes, I'm looking forward to the solo mode.
Love this review and comparison! Thx for this great vid!
Big fan of Unfair! Not a game for sore losers haha. I kind of like the take-that features, in our games it has helped keep anyone from getting a runaway lead and you can tweak the deck combos to vary the meanness 😁
It's a shame they didn't make Funfair an expand-alone so we'd have the option to combine it with Unfair, but I can understand that there would have been a lot of difficulty in doing that.
Great video as always, you guys do amazing reviews.
Mic, thanks for sharing your huge support of Unfair! It really helps me make my decisions in addition to their awesome review and videos! I now see a few people in the comments who love it and that is great! That is a really cool thought on Funfair as an expansion. But I too see they were going for family weight game. Hopefully they will add public objectives and more theme decks! Love the ability to vary a little bit of the theme from game to game!
Thanks! Yeah Unfair is by design a mid weight tableau & engine building game where you CAN mess with your rival's engine... IF that's the best strategic move to stop runaway leaders. Experienced players learn that you have to carefully weigh up the unstoppable benefits of boosting your own park against everyone against the risk of attacking one player (and being blocked or counterattacked). Many but not all gamers enjoy that interaction... and for those that don't, Funfair gives you a slightly lighter, tighter, faster & friendlier theme park building experience with only positive interactions.
An yeah we had to change enough things in Funfair to create that very specific experience, that we couldn't integrate the 2 games (different card costs and abilities and simplified income calculations and more).
While we don't currently plan on expanding Funfair itself, as you likely know there will be plenty more Unfair expansions. The Comicbook, Hacker, Kaiju & Ocean expansion is in late playtesting as we speak! So look out for the upcoming Kickstarter.
Great point about the runaway lead mitigation Mic!! Glad to hear you enjoy the game as much as we do! Thank you also for the kind words about our reviews - we still feel very new to this so that means a lot to us. Thanks for taking the time to comment 🥰
Another great #ThinkerThemer review and video! You both look like you are feeling better and I am so happy to see that! I actually had both of these games in my cart at one time, waiting to decide which to get. Now, this may sound opposite to what I posted last week about not caring for take that mechanic but I feel it is different when the whole game is built around it. Games that are mostly engine building with a few take that cards thrown in are so frustrating! But this...this sounds more enjoyable if everyone going in realizes this game is UNFAIR! I love a game, that is not a party game, that makes you laugh. I also love that you combine two different theme decks. I love being able to change a piece of the theme. So cool! That piece reminds me a little of Smash Up, combing two random decks. That is a very different game of course, but I like choosing your two decks for theme and tactics. Do you think they will make additional theme decks to add to this game? Sounds like expansion opportunity along with public objectives! That would be cool for more choices! Plus, I love that is good at 2 players. I am hoping it is not too crunchy for Laura to play! I think my decision is made. Unfair for the theme park win! My favorite quote in the video, “There was a hugging moment…I had to hug her”. So cute and adorable! Thank you for sharing those moments! Warms my heart.
And I am so excited, my little #joey icon beside my name grew up today! He is 1 month old!! Such a great community #joeyfam! Congrats on one month strong on your RUclips membership channel. For iPhone/iPad readers on my comment...If you don’t see the join button use your browser and make sure it renders the desktop version of the RUclips website! 🦘🦘
Unfair will eventually have 26 theme packs - 1 for each letter of the alphabet (except i). Each expansion brings 4 new theme packs with some unique cards & new rule mechanisms to mix in for huge replayability, as its a modular game. eg the Gangster theme allows all sort of illegal fiscal activities, the B-Movie theme adds panoramic attraction scoring, and Dinosaurs adds a whole new type of upgrade - Dinosaurs!
@@kimbrebach9246 Thank you so much! That is awesome to know! Now I am really excited about it! I have seen in it the past, but Amy and Maggie just have a way of pulling you right into the game! So cool there are going to be lots of extra theme packs. I just love the idea of the variability you can have for each game. Having the ability to adjust or change the theme, just a little is great! Thank you so much. Are you by chance with Good Games? Thank you so very much for joining us in the comments! We really appreciate it!
@@darlene7165 no problems at all. Yes the I am with Good Games Publishing. Always like to stay active in comments of new reviews to help answer questions. And yes I loved Amy and Maggies obvious excitement and enjoyment as they talked about their Funfair & Unfair experiences here. They certainly sound memorable ones! No game is for everyone but good reviewers help you work out if this or that is for you or not. And Thinker Themer does a fantastic job of that.
@@kimbrebach9246 so glad you stopped by with all the great support! It’s awesome to see and interact with someone from the publishing company! I could go on and on about Amy and Maggie, but I will just say they are the best! I have officially ordered Unfair and the expansion! I am looking forward to playing it!
Darlene I am so late to this comment but glad Kim was able to tell you more about the expansions...! AND I saw what happened on Discord - - - you now have a copy of Funfair and the expansion for Unfair?? Oh dear!! Maybe that was fate giving you a helping hand to get Laura into the game series by starting with the lighter option? 🤔If you end up trying both I look forward to hearing your (unintended) comparison review....! Thanks for the kind words about the channel and community, we love your warmth and positivity and are so happy to have you here.
So excited for this review! Have been wanting to get Unfair for us, but I don't like Take That, though my son loves it! This gives me a choice. Thanks. Fun video. Hope you have a great weekend....now that you're feeling better.
Thank you Andrea!! I'm glad we could help explain the differences a bit more. Hope you have had a wonderful weekend and got some game time in with Jonah!
I love your channel! We started with Funfair and are currently awaiting Unfair from a math trade, so we clearly love this game. ❤️ I think Unfair will edge out Funfair for us, but we will keep it to play with our kiddo. The art in this game is 🤩. Love the break down of the two! Nice job!
Aw yay! Thanks so much Stephanie! Loved reading about your experiences with Funfair and I think you'll find Unfair even more engaging / deeper (oh and of course, meaner hehe). We like the variability of the decks. Thanks for taking the time to comment and the lovely words about the channel ☺
Oooh yes! Unfair looks like my kind of game. I love games that serve up the schadenfreude on a platter. And I really admire Maggie for being able to roll with the meanness of games like Unfair even when she does feel the pain of it more intensely than many people. You guys should get her a tiny violin that she can give to whoever is being mean to her, and say "you might as well play this for me, too, to rub it in!" 😁
HAHAHA oh, I don't think she rolls with it as well as you think she does. If the violin came out Maggie would be storming off to bed and that game would never see the light of day again Lol...! I'm glad you like the look of Unfair, we have had a lot of fun with it, and zero full storm outs. :D
about the mini did you prime the whole thing black, gray, white, zenethal? also i have been wanting to ask do you use a spray can to prime or do you own an air brush? if so i have been thinking about getting one is there one you suggest (im in the US)
I used a spray can here of white primer. I do own an airbrush and want to do more zenathal priming but on this occasion it was just one mini per box so I didn't bother setting up! Maggie bought it for me for Christmas so I didn't do the research but it is a Harder & Steenbeck. It is nice to use but I haven't explored painting with it enough. About to start Rising Sun though!! All the best for your painting adventures 🥰
Glad to see the talk on the differences. I enjoyed my play of Undair but knew it wouldn’t go over well with the majority of people I played games with. Excited to try out Funfair though. That might be more up their alley.
Great review, I was a little surprised you preferred UNFAIR but at the end of the day if its the better game/deeper/more challenging then I can see that this overrode the take that elements that you might normally avoid.
Thank you Paul...! Yes there is plenty of game there and there is more building than destroying overall so it is satisfying and a lot of fun. Appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching this one and taking the time to comment
Hello :-) Love your channel :-) I was wondering if someday there are packs of themed cards for Funfair if you would like it more than Unfair?
Thanks so much for the kind words Dominique!! I think we would still like Unfair. Especially me (Amy) because of the higher level of player interaction! It would be great if they made themed packs for funfair though... that would ensure it could stay fresh for the fans! Thanks for watching this one ❤
I combined both game together, but having Funfair be the core game. Just with the Red City events and Game setups card, to make the game challenging.
Great video !
Haven't heard of them before this video, dont think they are the right games for me though. Entertaining video anyway, a pleasure to watch! ❤🌈
Working out a game is not for you is as important as working out it is!! That is a win in our books too 👌 thanks for watching Sergio as always! 💕🌈💕
The Unfair rulebook makes it explicit that it's a Funfair where the F fell off, but for some reason the U is larger, and that drives me crazy
What, you've never been to a FUnfair? Very common where I live.
The missing F is small though!
@@theSolemnBard Oh, well that’s just highly localized deviance, then.
Lol!! Interesting observation...! I will never be able to un-see this now.... !!
Thanks for the video sounds like unfair was more fun than funfair was unfair
Hahahaha could've just said this instead of dragging out the review Sean!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment as always :) hope you had a great weekend!
@@ThinkerThemer Then though there would be less of you two
I've made Lisa cry once or twice. It made me cry. We sold the game the next day.
so... sad? Funfair won't make you cry though!
Awwwwww... it is hard to play a game again after that type of experience! What was it?
@@ThinkerThemer small world, and I can't remember the other one. It was over 2 years ago. Maybe Lisa will remember.