Sven Kramer interview (volledig fragment) (with subtitles)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Sven Kramer staat een NBC journaliste te woord die een belachelijke vraag stelt. Bron: NOS.nl
Sven Kramer responds to a NBC reporter who is asking him a ridiculous question. Source: NOS.nl
Would be way more funny if he said; "I'm Shani Davis and I just won the bronze medal".
I'm an American, but I've lived outside the US for over 15 years. I laughed out loud when I heard Sven Kramer's response.
The part I liked most was his complete graciousness when asked the follow-up question, obviously a very likeable guy.
First off congrats to Sven. It was a truly impressive race.
I too was part of the media and I can tell you introductions happens in one of two ways: 1) the reporter introduces you or 2) they ask you. That's why she said, "I know for tape identification here".
It's not that she didn't know who Sven was but, at the end of the day she probably interviewed 15 people all of which sit on the same tape but also, if they need to reference the tape 4 years from now it makes for easier identification.
it's the reporters job to know the athletes names and other info before anything. she's being lazy.
Het is standaard dat een sporter zijn naam, titel enz. inspreekt. Dit heeft te maken met montage.Dat is de arrogantie van Sven!
Corrie Brink Dat monteren is toch niet zijn verantwoordelijkheid?, de reporter moet gewoon haar eigen werk doen en niet een athleet opzadelen met haar kloterige montagewerk.
fr x The reporter obviously knows who he is, didn't you hear that it's just for identification purposes (So that they can access clips easier later)? Everyone does it and it's their job and part of regular procedure. It's Sven who's being so self absorbed.
+vlabato taravi It could also be a form of one camera reporting, where the interviewer isn't heard. I did some of these reports for school, and it felt weird asking someone to say their name for the camera, but the end results made it quite personal sounding.
As other people have mentioned, you can hear her try to explain it's for 'tape identification'. At an event of the logistical magnitude of the Olympics, long-practised systems are in place to prevent mis-identification as a video segment passes through many hands.
So she was simply asking for a courtesy. He obviously felt himself too important and didn't have the courtesy to comply.
Jim Bruce
In that case the interviewer could've told his name + achievement to the camera. It's plain rude to ask an Olympic Gold medalist what his name is and what he just won; she only does it to mask her own ignorance.
Apart from that, a clever camera crew holds a note with the interviewee's name and other data in front of the camera, just before shooting the interview, so they can see where the clip is about in the first frame. Retrieving the interviewee's name and other data through the recorded audio track is impractical and stupid, and will only cost the editors more time as opposed to using a chalkboard slate or whatever.
Indeed, something like "Sven Kramer, from the Netherlands, you have just won the god medal at the 5km speed skating race, how do you feel?"
The amount of disrespect in being a sports journalist and asking the gold medallist what their name is on camera...
She should be fired immediately
@bsadam25 - that wasn't the start of the interview. Journalists do that to collect information in a convenient way for other people who have to process that information, graphic artists, archivists, producers of olympic reels, etc. Getting the athlete to pronounce his own name can also help others down the line from making mistakes. It aired accidentally.
And I'm sure you'd lose that bet. This is a common practice, especially when having to do multiple interviews quickly. You may mark the tape wrong, but you have the correct pronunciation from the athlete himself. This is a tool that journalists use.
It helps for pronunciation purposes to have the person speak his name.
yep its better to have the interview subject say their name because this tells the reporter, editor, anchor, how to actually pronounce the name correctly
Sorry, guys, Sven was in the wrong here. She was asking him for his name so they could edit it into the video later. Common practice.
Exactly, it wasn't for airing. No one says "Hi Im john smith from england and I won a gold!"
They use it for categorizing stock file tapes and clips later on.
im sure the reporter knows the info but its for the viewers.
Mistakes happen in live tv. Getting someone to verify some personal information helps reduce those mistakes.
There is many, many, many events happening simultaneously at the Olympics, unlike the Superbowl.
Her question is meant to get the correct pronunciation and information for people who are not present at the event and may not know who that person was - such as a graphics person, archivist, producer, etc. This IS common practice, believe it or not. You just never see it because it usually doesn't make it to air, but sometimes these things happen in live TV
Next time I speak with Stephen Curry I'll ask his name and profession.
He's the currently the World Champion in 3 speedskating events. Any journalist assigned to covering the Olympics should learn who the top athletes in the sport are before they arrive at the event.
Before this gets lost in translation; she says it is behind in knowledge of speedskating (the public+media). Which is probably true since speed skating is more popular in Holland. Just as the Dutch are less known with ice hockey.
But Nederlanders don’t often get mixed up with names of countries like for example Holland vs Nederland . Maybe athletes should have barcodes tattooed on their foreheads or a number on their left forearm for IDENTIFICATION !!
It wasn't a sit down interview where she would get a chance to explain themselves better - it was a quick thing on live television, I'm sure there was no time to explain herself.
I've had interview subjects introduce themselves on camera many times and I even have them spell their name, even if it's John Smith. It's a good habit that has saved many a journalist from embarrassment later
Maybe, maybe not. Of course, Shaun White is better known in the states than Sven is. And I'm sure the first time that Shaun was ever interviewed on US TV, he had to pronounce his name and spell it. Sven was not treated any differently than anyone interviewed in the field.
His reply showed an ignorance of how Television reporters do their job and an arrogance that, if he was any sort of gentleman, should have shamed himself.
That's a perfect example of bad journalism. To ask someone on cloud nine what his name is after he won a gold medal in the olympics is unthinkable. The viewers should be told that before the interview, he's not supposed to do her work.
There are athletes from all over the world. She is a reporter who has to work on schedule covering different sports. Her job is not to memorize 300 countries and how to pronounce foreign names. In live TV you help out the reporter so the right info gets out fast. If she asked how to pronounce a last name, that means she cared and wanted to get it right out of respect. Otherwise she would have said fuck it who cares how to pronounce his name...
@peteglowski Why would NBC's editing bay be "across the world"...?
@xpswebstar420 How come we saw this part if it was supposed to be cut out?
Yeah, but typically there are so many sideline reporters there, that she only gets 30 second of his time at most. Not very much time at all.
Plus, based on his reaction, if she would have asked him "Is it Kraymer or Krahmer?" he would have still responded with the same, "Are you stupid?"
She clearly says that stating his name, country, and medal are for tape identification purposes. She even agrees with him that it seems stupid to ask for.
She knew who he was she was just doing what her producers require her to do.
Mag ik vragen voor wie de informatie die de vrouw vraagt van belang is?
Als je nog niet in de gaten hebt dat Sven Kramer olympisch kampioen is geworden maar je wel het interview bekijkt moet je maar wat eerder onder je steen vandaan komen.
Seeing this made me angry at the ignorance and laziness of the NBC reporter and I feel the need to state that: I am American, I do not watch Fox News, NBCs coverage of the Olympics is abysmal and embarrassing.
What's the big deal? If every interviewee states his name and country at the start of the interview, it ensures that no mistakes or mistaken identity occur. They probably do hundreds of interviews, many with rather unknown athletes, and it makes sense to politely ask them to identify themselves for the record and for the poor video who cut the video. It's not stupid.
Isn't this pretty much SOP for most interviews?
The person probably does a ton of interviews daily all of which are on that tape. It's simply organizational, it wasn't part of the interview.
Prime example of Dutch directness. Funny as heck.
Again, the tape identifiers aren't for the reporter's benefit; she probably knew who the kid was or she wouldn't have interviewed him.
The tape identifiers are for the benefit for editors and producers hundreds or thousands of miles from the event, who have to look at hundreds of interviews in raw footage when getting the Olympics package ready for air.
@fmlphotography Nice to hear that US reporters have soo much more to do and that its so hard for their collegues to keep things right that its hard to be polite. Its much easier for us Europeans who aren't so advanced in TV productions as you.
I also saw an other clip with the same "journalist" asking the Finish skater Poutala who was wearing a suit with the Finnish flag on it and THE NAME OF HIS COUNTRY ON HIS SUIT (after he took the lead in the 500 meters) : 'I know you are from Denmark but can you say your name so I know how I have to pronounce it'
To which Poutala replied that he was from Finland. The lady: 'o yes of course I know Finland'
Where was it on?
The reporter was asking for identity markers so an editor could locate the interview later among mountains of tape and place correct identity graphics for airplay. It's a standard practice in local media. Nothing stupid here, except the skater, what's-his-name.
she interviews 83 people a day, its just good data quality measure.
I'm sure she knew, she wanted him to say it on camera.
You or any other American not knowing Sven Kramer is not the problem. It's well known that speed skating isn't a popular sport in the States. I am fine with that. But I expect an official reporter of the Olympics to be more tactful, professional and respectful. Sven could have expressed his feelings in a better way, I agree with that. But realize he's a 23 year old kid, who just won a gold medal. A gold medal he and the whole (Dutch) nation was hoping and praying for, for over 4 years.
Tape identification can also be done by the interviewer or the editor himself. Plus, this is about the sport and the athletes, not about some uninteresting editor.
Thanks for clarifying!
But by mentioning our Canadian greats, I was trying to get across that speed skating is actually a very popular sport here. We need MORE coverage of it because we have so many great speed skaters, and there are so many people who love the sport because of them that it's gained an enormous amount of popularity!
LEGEND!!!!!!
this whole thing is blown out of proportion.
she should have introduced herself and explained the interview process prior to the beginning and he would have been clear as to her intention.
since she didn't it made them both look foolish.
its not a matter of american canadian or european.
its professionalism and obviously the lass lacks in this category.
He is also not Canadian.
I think the lady that was interviewing just want him to say his name etc. just so the people that are watching who missed him winning knows exactly who he is.
Why would you assume that asking for a proununciation of a name, country and medal won, something that is common practice in field reporting, is an attempt to belittle him? Could it be more possible that the reporter wanted to make sure that when he made it to air, that all of the information was correct and Kramer misinterpreted her question and overreacted?
Yeah, but in live television, it's also quite possible that an apology wouldn't come until later, given that "things are still happening."
I haven't watched an ounce of the olympics, but I'm sure something will/has been said about their mistake.
Enkephalinish,
Did you work as a reporter? I'm thinking not.
Again, it's SOP for Radio and/or TV reporters to ask questions. It's 100% professional and helps avoid any mispronunciations of names, locations, and events. This honestly shouldn't need explaining, especially to someone with "years" of experience in the industry.
Just a warning to everyone outside the United States: This is what we're stuck with. Most events outside figure skating don't air live and the announcers are clueless.
huh? al op TV geweest in de VS? :)
Which is ruder?
1) asking an athlete to state some information that will ensure that they are correctly identified and their names are pronounced correctly ... or....
2) Calling a stranger who asked a question "stupid."
And I think the opposite is true - Sven should be an ambassador for both speed skating and his people and not belittle people because they didn't seem to know who he was.
They wanted him to say it for the benefit of people working with the footage down the road. Sven simply didn't understand why they were asking.
That being said, he really comes off as arrogant!
Enkephalinish,
I'm sure if the reporter knew beforehand that Sven was going to react the way he did, she would have changed course. But in the world of last-second deadline news, especially when you're dealing with one reporter covering a multitude of events, sometimes they DO not have the time. The demands of the job, I suppose. Anyways, that's why this method was adopted decades ago to prevent such errors.
Peyton Manning's done television before, is aware of how things are done and would most likely reply in a polite manner.
I still didn't quite catch his name.
Het gaat hier niet zozeer dat de vrouw niet weet hoe hij heet, of dat hij gewonnen heeft, het gaat om de mensen bij de montage, die voor titels etc moeten zorgen. Is niks raars aan die vraag.
Oh and they do, for one on one interviews. This interview was probably one of dozens the reporter did that day, one right after another, with a field director shouting for her to rush to the next one. That's live TV.
The only mistakes that were made was airing that snippet of the interview and Sven letting his youthful arrogance be his first introduction to a great number of americans.
@TechFo I'm American and I can generally agree on that. I love Canadians... very positive, friendly people.
What does this have to do with anything?
미친 개귀엽네진짴ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 어휴 컨디션난조 얼른 ㄱ극복하길 ㅎㅇㅌ
As Europeans emigrated to Canada and the US, they developed better skates in the mid 1800's, and Canada's first recorded speedskating race was held in 1854. Canadians and Americans have dominated the sport at various times since then - not to mention the Canadian 2-3-4-5 finish in the men's long-track program at Nagano. "Still a little behind", eh ?
Wat een doos van een vrouw, ben je net olympisch kampioen, word je dit gevraagd, terechte reactie van Sven. Geweldig!!
I agree, they say a ton of times who he is and where he's from during the competition. Why would she expect him to tell her?
It was live.
By any and all means mag hij blij zijn dat dit een muts was van NBC en niet van Fox News...
As far I can hear well..the journalist says" Can you tell us your name, your country and what you just won?". This does not says anything about her having problem to pronounce his name right. The journalist attitude is like mother to child" tell evrybody what is yor name my little boy". I think no adult should ever tolerate that-at least European will not! Kramer was not rude.He responded very polite to her second question.He just aknowledge that he will not be treated as little kid.
In her defense, I just watched the video and still have no idea who he is.
@90321... Was dat van flawless voor mij of jou bestemd dan? Ik denk voor michaeldeboer aangezien hij nog geen enkele positieve feedback heeft gekregen en blijkbaar de wereld door een hele andere bril bekijkt :-)
Well, as long as he does not play baseball or "soccer", how was she supposed to know... rofl
Ik ben het toch enigszins eens met westelboy1000. Het is hier in de VS normale procedure om dit aan de sporter te vragen, dat doen ze ook bij wereldsterren voordat ze aan een interview beginnen. Deze mevr. had deze situatie natuurlijk moeten voorkomen door die standaardprocedure voordat de camera aanstond even duidelijk te maken aan Kramer.
If you're reporting at the Olympics and you don't know who Sven Kramer is, then there's no way in hell that you should still have a job.
Isn't it the reporters job to introduce him? Then that would be used for tape identification. That's normal here at least.
The NBC journalist should have at least used Sven Kramer's name when she asked him to provide the information. Since this was a post-race interview with the gold medalist, the journalist should have set up the whole process with Kramer more professionally. For example, she could have first congratulated Kramer for his gold medal victory. This would confirm to him that she is indeed closely following the results at the Olympics.
Then she could get on camera and state who he is. There's no need for him to do it for her.
In case you WEREN'T listening, she explains that it's for "identification" (because NOT EVERY VIDEO EDITOR KNOWS he won a medal), and he says "I'm not going to do that" (rather arrogantly). - That to me, makes him a CLOWN! If he did HIS research, and knew what would be expected of him, should he win a "game", we wouldn't be having this exchange!
He's a talented speed skater, very good looking, very fast... but that was pretty rude of him to call the journalist stupid even though she asked a stupid question...
모른다 네덜란드어 좋다 크라머 ! 너는 love
Pmj1216 Translated by Google, huh?
I agree....poor Sven Kramer had to deal with two low-standard journalists. First the American NBC journalist who was disrespectful by not determining his name before the interview. Second, the Dutch journalist who tried to trick him into saying that the lack of knowledge of speedskating is also Canadian issue.
He is actually pointing out that she is not Canadian in the end ;-)
@flavaball So he is supposed to stand there like a school-boy and say: "Hi. I'm Sven Kramer, I'm from Holland and I've just won the 5000m in the Vancouver Olympics" ?
Do you think Phelps would have even answered that question or would he walk over to the next reporter ?
Best interview ever. This guy is my hero.
Would you consider sexual relations with him?
Yup, that's how we the Dutch are. Our stereotype is we alway launc into cliche stereotypes. lol
thanks for the nice response , appreciated
That TV reporter need to do her homework, you must be prepared when you going to interview someone!
Kramer was a MASSIVE favorite. It would be one of the biggest upsets of these Olympics if anyone else won it. If you're a reporter at the 5000k, wouldn't you check out the basics on the favorite, one of the biggest favorites in the games, one of the absolute best athletes in the history of the sport? I'd say I would in fact take 5 mins to do that much research - and open with "I'm here with Sven Kramer from the Netherlands". Could Kramer be more polite about it? Sure. But I don't blame him.
:( i'd like to understand what is he saying
It's not about how good you guys are at speed skating, but it's about the popularity. While Canada has got a reasonably big speedskating fanbase, it's nothing compared to the one we have in the Netherlands.
It wasn't for airing? Huh, you gotta be kidding me. This was a LIVE interview. Pay attention please...
Yeah, they would - especially if Shani Davis or Shaun White weren't as well known as they are.
Nothings more embarrassing than incorrectly identifying someone on television, especially live television. The reporter took a reasonable precaution with a largely unknown athlete and the Sven's youthful arrogance made him look like a fool.
Who is he?
Not only is the video hilarious but the comments as well!!
BTW if you win a gold medal at an Olympic event I don't think people need to ask you who you are and what you just won today, and it 's the reporter who should say who they are interviewing(for editing purposes someone said) and not the athlete.
Whatever, you guys with your hate comments come on!! Where's the love and the laugh!!!
She did the right thing - she asked him his name to get the proper pronunciation and to identify the taped interview. I'd have done the same. Some editor in a booth won't know who the heck Sven is or what he did without an intro.
Actually the Superbowl is considered the World Championship for American style football. When the AFL and NFL agreed to have their champions play each other in 1967, the original title was AFLNFL World Championship Game. There was a rumor that when the NFL Europe went mainstream, the NFL champion and the NFL Europe champion would compete in the Superbowl but that never went through. Kind of like how the World Series for baseball may become a match between US and Japan.
This NBC journalist would never have taken the same approach with Lindsey Vonn, Shani Davis and Apolo Ohno as she did here with Sven Kramer. It shows an uncaring and disrespectful attitude for non-American athletes.
well in that case, I really applaud you for having such strong faith. iIm a Christian myself that's why I just had to comment on your comment as well.
I've worked in television for six years now. The reporter was doing their job.
When you have someone interviewing a bunch of people quickly and with short notice, you get as much information as possible on tape to minimize mistakes later (The interviewee's name, the pronounciation, often times the spelling.) This is so that graphics people, archivists and other reporters have the correct information in front of them when they work with the footage.
@flavaball And norwegians, italians, russians and europeans in general.
And if its for the future she could introduce him herself couldn't she ? And if she was to embarrassed to try she could have asked in a different manner.
The reporter should be the one identifying him for the tape, he just won the gold medal, and his name was announced as the winner. It was almost as if she was saying, Who the hell are you?