as if any of us working class will ever be wealthy. those at the top that have continued to hoard the wealth have made sure that we will stay poor, so long things dont change. I dislike cameras that have such an exorbitant high price, medium format included, that will essentially bar most people from even considering the creative possibilities, simply because of the seemingly impossibility of affordability. I get that they're for a certain crowd, but that certain crowd seems like they'll live in monaco rather than minnesota, and as Ive asked before, will the camera vendors take kidneys for payment, cause might as sell one to afford the asking price. or just wait a decade or two and hope that prices eventually come down to a reasonable price.
Your monochrome images are wonderful and striking. The release of the M11M is not surprising, but certainly welcome and downright enticing. We are so fortunate that Leica, a relatively small company, but a giant in the industry, continues to thrive and innovate and bravely offer such products as the M6 and now the M11M along with the revamped line of M lenses.
I bought the first generation Monochrom (CCD) a little over year ago and it's easily my favourite camera of all time. I see no reason to upgrade as 18mpix is plenty enough and the high-iso on that camera is awesome. Not clean, but very organic looking. ISO 10000 looks very much like actual film, especially with colour filters. So much so that I haven't shot film in 9 months or so.
I agree that photos from the original Monochrom camera do look like film and more so than later Monochrom models. There can be such a thing as too much resolution and detail.
I still love my MM CCD; bought it twice (made the mistake of selling my first one and then bought it again - will not repeat the error!). BEST camera i have. All the naysayers and the usual "too expensive" crowd have obviousy never had their hands on one. That is fine, it is obviously not for everyone. Shooting "only" in b&w is a committment, but the rewards are there for those who can appreciate them. Yes, film is cheaper (is it really still though?), i have a few film Ms but they almost never get used anymore.... i am sorry but the battle is over.
I’m waiting to hear a comparison between the Q2 monochrom and the M11 monochrom. Focusing via rangefinder is difficult. Other than having the option of using various lenses with the M11 vs the 28mm fixed lens on the Q2, what are the advantages? Should I trade in my Q2M for the new M11M?
have to say, you really do show the use case for this camera. the processing here is top notch. have looked elsewhere, and those other reviews/images not as convincing. consider making a video on how you process these files
*Black and white film > black and white sensor* I'm not a fan of the photographs that come out of the camera--they feel very clinical and noticeably polished. They also look sepia in a way. I've shot all monochroms except the m11 monochrom. Nothing will ever compare to the traditional medium. Not to mention, the digital m cameras cost a *BULLET* . Sure you can edit them in post -- as with a regular digital camera! Rendering this M11 monochrom unavailing. If you want to get the best experience with black & white photography--get any film camera, a pallet of black & white film, and travel. Leica has been selling hopes and dreams for a while now. Lackluster and unsurprising. I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a Disney edition either. *Great video though, as always*
Very niche, but what a camera!!!! For those who can afford it... Superb images presented in this video, black and white photography at the highest level!
Your photos are the first I've seen that really show how organically close to black and white zone-system film processing the Leica files are. The dance and flower pictures are just wonderful. I've been digitizing photos taken decades ago with, inter alia, an M3; I'm now missing black and white film but unsure of diving back into it (it's a lot of effort). This video has sold me on the Monochrom. How big a difference in resolution/dynamic range do you see between the M10m and M11m-is it worth going the extra several grand?
I'm a big fan of Ansel Adams's and Fred Archer's zone system. I shoot both film and digital and it has been an absolute game changer in my journey. :-)
The M11 Monochrom has a sapphire glass screen covering over the rear LCD. This rugged, scratch-resistant surface protects the camera and is better quality than the glass used on the M10 LCD. The last camera with sapphire glass was two generations back with the M Monochrom (Typ 246), which I have and use, so great to see Leica bring this premium upgrade again to M11M. Comparing M11 to M246 Monochrom reveals more iso, more pixels, and more gadgets, but as Leica is a choice on the essentials I am preferring the quality of the M246 Monochrom.
Big claim Ted - "Best sensor available in any camera today?" Without trying I can think of six cameras which are better. Phase One XF, XT, XC, (with the 150MPX back), Hasselblad H6D; ok no longer produced, Fuji GFX100s, Hasselblad X2D.
Hello Ted. A very well made video as always. Thank you. I am using the Leica M10 Monochrome now since about half a year and the image quality always blows me away. I use the camera side by side with the M10, which is also gorgeous in my opinion. There is now reason for me to complain anything about these cameras, but it is amazing how Leica again and again shifts the borderline to higher levels. The most important fact for me today is, that Leica keeps the M productline by improving lenses and camera bodies, but also still offering the analog models. Although the cameras are expensive, it is an outstanding sustainability. Just got my M4 back from service - still working after nearly 60 years. Best regards, Greg
Hi Ted. It is kinda shame you are advertising Leica after their false promise to stop selling on RU market. In fact Insider provided a lot of proofs of Leica helping dual purpose optics to get to RU.
You're right about the entry point, at $14,200 for the body in Australian pesos it's a big leap - but have to admit that the images produced are undeniably superb.
I’m always curious why no company dare to challenge Leica’s hold on this market of compact, full frame rangefinders. It’s like Leica itself is already a niche but this Monochrom is a much smaller niche (only competing with Pentax’s new monochrome camera haha).
I LOVE my M10M....it has changed how and what I shoot and how I see the world. I'm wondering...how much a premium would I have to pay for M11M if I sold the M10M....and, would it be worth it? Does the M11M offer that much above the M10M, besides a higher MP sensor? Also, I thought I'd heard about people having manufacturing problems from their new M11's....would the M11M have these same problems I wonder....I hear of people having to send back brand new M11's multiple times....?
the battery life is a big one for me. and internal storage. Just take the camera and go. btw since the latest firmware update my m11 hasn't crashed. But it was never a big deal to begin with, just pop the battery in and out. Took about 2 seconds
I will stick with my M10M for now. I don't need the extra resolution. The other innovations are interesting, but not decisive for me. Especially since Leica has increased the prices again. The new Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 ASPH seems more interesting to me.
Cameras like this are for rich people who live in mansions, drive Bentleys, have liposuction/chemical peels and have a driving need to be better than their peers at parties on their yachts in the Algarve. Leica cameras are undoubtedly excellent, but they must be laughing all the way to the bank at the gullibility of the people who don''t realise that other products create images which are indistinguishable from their own.
This camera does produce very detailed images. Personally, I wouldn't use a camera with this sort of resolution and detail for traditional street photography as I would find it a bit too clean and clinical - not a criticism of the camera as the photos are simply stunning to look at. This camera certainly has a fine art vibe to the results. That's where I think it would shine, very clean, clinical and detailed. Of course, combine that with some of Leica's vintage inspired lenses.
AOP (Ted), this is my first time writing a comment on this channel. I have however enjoyed your commentary for quite some time now. I liken your reviews to listening to a conversation of friends in a relaxed setting. Needless to say, but I genuinely enjoy your presentation style. WRT the M11 M, I appreciate everything that you said about having a dedicated B&W camera body. And as an owner of the M11, SL2-S, M3, and Barnack iiif, I definitely agree that the M11 M comes with a stiff buy in for an exclusive B&W camera. Another camera that I own is the M(9) Monochrom with its magical CCD sensor. I continue to torture myself by watching reviews and First Impressions of the M11 M, but I’m prayerful that I can stay committed to my M Monochrom and my Noctilux (0.95, 1.2, & 1.25) glass. Retired U.S. Navy Chaplain. Be Blessed, Doc Chaps
It is a very interesting camera targeting a very small part of the market that needs a monochrome camera for what they do and they have 7-8K lying around. Regardless, thanks for the video!
Nothing personal. But I rather treat myself with a trip around the world 😅 and should I need a dedicated Monochrome camera I could get the Pentax K3iii apsc monochrome that launched today for ¼ of the Leica price.
Handling, fondling do nothing for me! Compactness is a must. Sadly all Leica new lenses except a few re-makes are super big! Filter size was 39mm, now 43mm plus! I know fast apertures that are not meant for this length RFDR! M3 was made for f2.0, at a stretch f1.4 on 50mm. Pure Physics! The Battery cost is insane. Charging whole camera, nice! My Early toy Pentax Optio, charges whole camera plus a spare! Anyway on same day release, Pentax offers for me, a better solution! Pentax Monochrome, Bravo. Bravo to your review, now more images!
I prefer SLRs over rangefinders for the TTL VF so the k3iii mono would be perfect. also monochrome mirrorless in rangefinder style body but with autofocus would be cool.
9:30 Ugh… Leica needs to adopt fuji’s approach to highlight detail… i.e. their DR 400 mode. Its a mode that, internally, underexposes the shot about two stops while boosting your mids and blacks. Effectively, what you do with in lightroom. This gives you about 4-5 stops of highlight detail, in addition to fuji highlight rolloff, that gives you a very filmic rolloff. This work in raw too!! So instead of having 18 stops of dynamic range all in the shadows, it trades some of that for the highlights. Having clipped highligh from a 9k camera when fuji doesn’t do that at 1/10 the price?
Thanks for the excellent as usual review. It is a joy to watch and listen. Too bad, I just bought the Hasselblad X2D.... :D On this note: Do you have some comparison or personal opinion on the image quality between these two (after converting the Hasselblad 3RF files into monochrome)?
I'm glad monochrome is still being supported. However, Leica is out of my price range and frankly doesn't have the features I'd be interested in. It's more a fashion statement imho. I'd be far more interested in a "hands on" of Pentax's new K3-iii monochrome, something actually affordable.
Very nice video. Brisk and factual. Thank you! A lot of focus on the visuals of the camera like all Leica videos. Who else cares about whether the ISO A setting mark is red or white aside from Leica owners. 😮😂. My Q; how does the light metering and risk of blowing out the highlights compare to the M10M in real life shooting. I loved the latter camera BUT hated the ongoing need to protect the highlights and then fix it all in post. (I like to share out of camera JPEG output as well as shooting RAW to process my best ones and found it quite difficult to do this with the M10M due to the need to protect the highlights which messed up some of exposure of the JPEG output). Sounds like the M11 M metering and sensor is better here? What is the real world difference in normal shooting conditions to the M10M. Which one to buy? They are both such interesting cameras. Well done Leica for continuing the line!
Love this camera, love the images it produces, price of entry is very high for me, but thinking hard about buying it or it's successor, which will require a few long years of putting aside funds.
Ted. Sorry for a stupid question. Maybe I didn't understand. When I want to have b&w images - Is it better for me to switch my camera to bw at the beginning even when shoooting in RAW. My sensor still have these filters which maks colours .. Or better results are when I switch to bw at the beginning?
Given the limitations of inkjet printers, how well do the benefits of a monochrome camera translate to printed photographs? i.e., If making a black and white print is the end-game, is there any noticeable difference between printed images captured on an M monochrome vs a standard M. Seems like an obvious question but can't find any post on the topic.
Wonderful video and very informative. I recently bought the m11 2 weeks back. But I only do black and white (fyi I'm not a pro). I still have the option of returning but then I do away with the option of color (even its 0.1% of the time). Would you recommend returning the m11 and going for the m11 M instead? Or are the differences not noticeable between the m11 and m11 M in post processing?
Let's be a little more honest about that cost of entry. The cheapest you can get into an M11 monochrome with the cheapest Leica lens is literally double the entry point for not just a Nikon but for a Nikon Z 9. That's not just "pretty costly". That's "insanely costly".
OK - so how do the images compare to your Sony that you had converted to Full Spectrum - given the pixel difference and age difference between the cameras.
They are priced correctly. The rangefinder mechanism alone is as complicated as any expensive swiss watch. Get one in your hands, you'll understand the price immediately. Plus they hold value incredibly well. It's rare to lose much money on a Leica when you resell.
@@fieldstonestudios that’s understandable, but Leica has gotten to a point where they are pricing themselves out of the professional to prosumer market. With a new increased price of about $9,200, the M11 Monochrom is $900 more expensive than the 2020 launch price of the M10 Mono, following a years long trend of increasing prices since the M10 launch at $6.5k in 2017. The new Monochrom is also around $2k ~ $2.7k more expensive than you can get a used M10 Monochrom as of today. The reality is Leicas have and probably will always be a luxury item purchase for those with the deepest pockets and that’s fine. We’ll just never see mass adoption and I think Leica users probably prefer it that way.
Another great video and lovely photographs. Have you ever gotten your hands on a Pixii camera? It would be great to see what you made of it, given its colour and mono capabilities! Cheers. :)
Wow … something to aspire to one day. Just spent the morning shooting an Ilford B&W film sim with my Fuji X100V. Thanks for another excellent video! 📷😀
Great video as always. I was going thru some of your older videos. Love the show on Fred Herzog. He is one of my favorites. I have purchased your other presets in the past and was wondering if you would do a Preset pack around previous great photographers. I would buy it on day one. Would love a Herzog Preset and a Warhol preset for an example. If this is not something you are interested could you point me in the direction of the fuji or Kodak preset that you believe best represents Herzog colors. You are the best!
The M11 is one of the most ridiculous cameras ever produced for those people with wallets heavier than their camera bags, but your review gave me some inspiration to do more with black and white. I should convert my color images more often to black and white. It’s always wonderful and my experience is that many people find them more ‘artistic’.
I have been intrigued for a while with the possibility of shooting a monochrome. I use three Leicas for work: two Ms (9 and 10r) paired with different lenses and an S2 which is now the backup of a Phase. I would jump into one of these tomorrow but the price point is too hefty. It’s been a while since I purchased any gear new. But I might try eventually with an M9 monochrom or a type 246. I really liked the work you showed. It helps to see results coming from a real photographer.
Great video you get a 👍 Sometimes I love all the Leica hype when primarily men get so excited about their new piece of jewelry, but other times I also hate it when I look at it a little sensibly, because at the end of the day Leica can seem to me like it's an expensive jewelery for primarily men 😉 So is the also new Pentax K3III Monochrome a more sensible choice?
The point of entry is a very high bar but I think the invest of you shoot relentlessly will pay-off. I am undertaking a lot of monochrome work in Europe & this type of body would be great.
You have the BEST sample images for this camera on the web🤗 i might get this because i love BW portraits and film is getting too expensive and too hard to find in my location.
Much though I'd love one, it's been less than a year since I bought an M body (the new M6), so it's going to have to wait a while. How's its performance in the highlights compared to the M10M?
I think I’m swayed… but not convinced yet. I would like an excuse to go B&W so I don’t have to color grade and then just say “that’s my style!” But I’ll think about it. It really does put a lot more emphasis on the subject, focus, depth of field, and contrast… and you have to force yourself to think B&W and ignore color. It really is an artistic stretch
This is sooooo effing impressive. I would love to use it, but I need to shoot both color and black and white.... so this camera is, unfortunately, unpractical to me.
Feels like my dream camera, I mean perfect for me and what I do. One day when the war is over Im gonna try one. BTW it interesting how trichrome photography gonna look with this
The images are incredible. I would love to have a camera like this, perhaps when I strike it rich! Keep up the great reviews. I always enjoy your channel.
lovely pictures you've taken as always an in the meantime I've been shooting in black and white most of the time with my M8 while dreaming to own a monochrom one day.
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I’m glad Leica is keeping the monochrom line updated. Gives me time to get rich
Leica just said we can wait to get you get rich in the mean time .
lmao
as if any of us working class will ever be wealthy. those at the top that have continued to hoard the wealth have made sure that we will stay poor, so long things dont change. I dislike cameras that have such an exorbitant high price, medium format included, that will essentially bar most people from even considering the creative possibilities, simply because of the seemingly impossibility of affordability. I get that they're for a certain crowd, but that certain crowd seems like they'll live in monaco rather than minnesota, and as Ive asked before, will the camera vendors take kidneys for payment, cause might as sell one to afford the asking price. or just wait a decade or two and hope that prices eventually come down to a reasonable price.
@@MetalDEmpire we are wealthy. Minimum wage in most places in U.S. puts you easily above the 90th percentile
Still trying
Love it, Ted!
Funny how Pentax today also presented their monochrom APS-C DSLR camera.
Very excited for it! I’m a Leica shooter, but the dslr style will always have a soft spot in my photography heart!
@@syncryptic_2233 if I could have every kind of camera lol
Always love your monocrhome videos Ted. Killer photos as uaual.
If a major Japanese camera maker (Canon,Nikon,Fuji etc) offered a monochrome digital camera, I would definitely buy one.
Pentax K-3iii Monochrome perhaps? Not really a ‘major’ manufacturer though.
That would be great
The question is, why all the brand today do not lead their choice to telemetric system camera, instead copying Leica style. Why not doing it All In?
hopefully this will bring down the price of the Q2 monochrom a bit... fingers crossed
Your monochrome images are wonderful and striking. The release of the M11M is not surprising, but certainly welcome and downright enticing. We are so fortunate that Leica, a relatively small company, but a giant in the industry, continues to thrive and innovate and bravely offer such products as the M6 and now the M11M along with the revamped line of M lenses.
I bought the first generation Monochrom (CCD) a little over year ago and it's easily my favourite camera of all time. I see no reason to upgrade as 18mpix is plenty enough and the high-iso on that camera is awesome. Not clean, but very organic looking. ISO 10000 looks very much like actual film, especially with colour filters. So much so that I haven't shot film in 9 months or so.
I agree that photos from the original Monochrom camera do look like film and more so than later Monochrom models. There can be such a thing as too much resolution and detail.
A bag company bold enough to make a bag that holds not one, but two Leica M bodies. Talk about a niche product.
Id priobably use it for my m10m and sony apha1 to be fair. About the same size.
I still love my MM CCD; bought it twice (made the mistake of selling my first one and then bought it again - will not repeat the error!). BEST camera i have. All the naysayers and the usual "too expensive" crowd have obviousy never had their hands on one. That is fine, it is obviously not for everyone. Shooting "only" in b&w is a committment, but the rewards are there for those who can appreciate them. Yes, film is cheaper (is it really still though?), i have a few film Ms but they almost never get used anymore.... i am sorry but the battle is over.
I’m waiting to hear a comparison between the Q2 monochrom and the M11 monochrom. Focusing via rangefinder is difficult. Other than having the option of using various lenses with the M11 vs the 28mm fixed lens on the Q2, what are the advantages? Should I trade in my Q2M for the new M11M?
have to say, you really do show the use case for this camera. the processing here is top notch. have looked elsewhere, and those other reviews/images not as convincing. consider making a video on how you process these files
*Black and white film > black and white sensor*
I'm not a fan of the photographs that come out of the camera--they feel very clinical and noticeably polished. They also look sepia in a way.
I've shot all monochroms except the m11 monochrom. Nothing will ever compare to the traditional medium.
Not to mention, the digital m cameras cost a *BULLET* .
Sure you can edit them in post -- as with a regular digital camera! Rendering this M11 monochrom unavailing.
If you want to get the best experience with black & white photography--get any film camera, a pallet of black & white film, and travel.
Leica has been selling hopes and dreams for a while now. Lackluster and unsurprising. I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a Disney edition either.
*Great video though, as always*
Pentax K3 Monochrome was just launched out of nowhere - I have tears in my eyes.
If the m11p will have that internal storage, it will be a killer
Is there a pop-up flash ? Just kidding 😉. Great video.
Very niche, but what a camera!!!! For those who can afford it... Superb images presented in this video, black and white photography at the highest level!
I will wait for the M12 Monochrome
Your photos are the first I've seen that really show how organically close to black and white zone-system film processing the Leica files are. The dance and flower pictures are just wonderful. I've been digitizing photos taken decades ago with, inter alia, an M3; I'm now missing black and white film but unsure of diving back into it (it's a lot of effort). This video has sold me on the Monochrom. How big a difference in resolution/dynamic range do you see between the M10m and M11m-is it worth going the extra several grand?
No !
I'm a big fan of Ansel Adams's and Fred Archer's zone system. I shoot both film and digital and it has been an absolute game changer in my journey. :-)
Leica Monochrome is awesome, I own the SL2S and the Q2M and the Q2M is my favorite camera.
I have owned every Leica Monochrom since the M9M. Mine comes Saturday and as always I am excited to get shooting with it. Nice review Ted.
Is there any improvement in the body related to weather sealing?
The M11 Monochrom has a sapphire glass screen covering over the rear LCD. This rugged, scratch-resistant surface protects the camera and is better quality than the glass used on the M10 LCD. The last camera with sapphire glass was two generations back with the M Monochrom (Typ 246), which I have and use, so great to see Leica bring this premium upgrade again to M11M.
Comparing M11 to M246 Monochrom reveals more iso, more pixels, and more gadgets, but as Leica is a choice on the essentials I am preferring the quality of the M246 Monochrom.
Just Killer. Always oustanding performance. I am always amazed by Leica.
Amd thx for the great video!
Big claim Ted - "Best sensor available in any camera today?" Without trying I can think of six cameras which are better.
Phase One XF, XT, XC, (with the 150MPX back), Hasselblad H6D; ok no longer produced, Fuji GFX100s, Hasselblad X2D.
Hello Ted. A very well made video as always. Thank you. I am using the Leica M10 Monochrome now since about half a year and the image quality always blows me away. I use the camera side by side with the M10, which is also gorgeous in my opinion. There is now reason for me to complain anything about these cameras, but it is amazing how Leica again and again shifts the borderline to higher levels. The most important fact for me today is, that Leica keeps the M productline by improving lenses and camera bodies, but also still offering the analog models. Although the cameras are expensive, it is an outstanding sustainability. Just got my M4 back from service - still working after nearly 60 years.
Best regards, Greg
Would it be possible to tri chrome this back into color like you would with film B&W just out of curiosity?
Thanks. Your video was really inspiring. My wife also saw it, and….. who knows…, maybe…. My 55th birthday is coming soon…. 😮
Although I love Monochrome images I'm struggling to see the logic of this camera at this price point - £1000 more than Hasselblad X2C 100C.
The $9,000.00 price tag is a problem. But, if it's worth having, it's worth blackmailing someone in order to get the money. 😸
Stop calling expensive toys investments.
The purpose of investment is to bring return. Leica is providing negative leverage on your money.
Hi Ted. It is kinda shame you are advertising Leica after their false promise to stop selling on RU market. In fact Insider provided a lot of proofs of Leica helping dual purpose optics to get to RU.
Hi what are the best lenses for this model for travel and portraits and photo journalism? Thanks
You're right about the entry point, at $14,200 for the body in Australian pesos it's a big leap - but have to admit that the images produced are undeniably superb.
Yes but if you shoot & have a tremendous work attitude I think you can see a huge return because these bodies are purchased once in a blue moon.
Damn this B-roll is crispy as hell. Really makes the Leica look stellar.
if you keep changing your colred photos into BW when you want to display them in your house - M11 Mono is for you!
Nice review. Which lens did you use for the ballet pictures? They look lovely!
Almost 10K really? I can buy a two powerful full frame bodies for this.
Red Dot Forum suggests not stopping down more than F5.6 What do you think.?
Checking bank account :(
I’m always curious why no company dare to challenge Leica’s hold on this market of compact, full frame rangefinders. It’s like Leica itself is already a niche but this Monochrom is a much smaller niche (only competing with Pentax’s new monochrome camera haha).
Which is funny, because shooting B+W on Foma or Adox is the only way I still get to shoot film for cheap.
Just get a film Nikon, a roll of B/W film and save $11,000.
Nice review! What song is at the beginning of the video? It’s catchy!
I LOVE my M10M....it has changed how and what I shoot and how I see the world.
I'm wondering...how much a premium would I have to pay for M11M if I sold the M10M....and, would it be worth it?
Does the M11M offer that much above the M10M, besides a higher MP sensor? Also, I thought I'd heard about people having manufacturing problems from their new M11's....would the M11M have these same problems I wonder....I hear of people having to send back brand new M11's multiple times....?
the battery life is a big one for me. and internal storage. Just take the camera and go. btw since the latest firmware update my m11 hasn't crashed. But it was never a big deal to begin with, just pop the battery in and out. Took about 2 seconds
I will stick with my M10M for now. I don't need the extra resolution. The other innovations are interesting, but not decisive for me. Especially since Leica has increased the prices again. The new Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 ASPH seems more interesting to me.
At that price tag HA HA HA - MASSIVE HARD PASS.
Cameras like this are for rich people who live in mansions, drive Bentleys, have liposuction/chemical peels and have a driving need to be better than their peers at parties on their yachts in the Algarve. Leica cameras are undoubtedly excellent, but they must be laughing all the way to the bank at the gullibility of the people who don''t realise that other products create images which are indistinguishable from their own.
I totally see the appeal.
Crikey that bag costs more than most of my lenses lol ..
This camera does produce very detailed images. Personally, I wouldn't use a camera with this sort of resolution and detail for traditional street photography as I would find it a bit too clean and clinical - not a criticism of the camera as the photos are simply stunning to look at. This camera certainly has a fine art vibe to the results. That's where I think it would shine, very clean, clinical and detailed. Of course, combine that with some of Leica's vintage inspired lenses.
AOP (Ted), this is my first time writing a comment on this channel. I have however enjoyed your commentary for quite some time now. I liken your reviews to listening to a conversation of friends in a relaxed setting. Needless to say, but I genuinely enjoy your presentation style. WRT the M11 M, I appreciate everything that you said about having a dedicated B&W camera body. And as an owner of the M11, SL2-S, M3, and Barnack iiif, I definitely agree that the M11 M comes with a stiff buy in for an exclusive B&W camera. Another camera that I own is the M(9) Monochrom with its magical CCD sensor. I continue to torture myself by watching reviews and First Impressions of the M11 M, but I’m prayerful that I can stay committed to my M Monochrom and my Noctilux (0.95, 1.2, & 1.25) glass. Retired U.S. Navy Chaplain. Be Blessed, Doc Chaps
It is a very interesting camera targeting a very small part of the market that needs a monochrome camera for what they do and they have 7-8K lying around. Regardless, thanks for the video!
Nothing personal. But I rather treat myself with a trip around the world 😅 and should I need a dedicated Monochrome camera I could get the Pentax K3iii apsc monochrome that launched today for ¼ of the Leica price.
I might need to take out a second mortgage on my house.
Handling, fondling do nothing for me! Compactness is a must. Sadly all Leica new lenses except a few re-makes are super big! Filter size was 39mm, now 43mm plus! I know fast apertures that are not meant for this length RFDR! M3 was made for f2.0, at a stretch f1.4 on 50mm. Pure Physics! The Battery cost is insane. Charging whole camera, nice! My Early toy Pentax Optio, charges whole camera plus a spare! Anyway on same day release, Pentax offers for me, a better solution! Pentax Monochrome, Bravo. Bravo to your review, now more images!
I prefer SLRs over rangefinders for the TTL VF so the k3iii mono would be perfect. also monochrome mirrorless in rangefinder style body but with autofocus would be cool.
9:30
Ugh…
Leica needs to adopt fuji’s approach to highlight detail… i.e. their DR 400 mode.
Its a mode that, internally, underexposes the shot about two stops while boosting your mids and blacks. Effectively, what you do with in lightroom.
This gives you about 4-5 stops of highlight detail, in addition to fuji highlight rolloff, that gives you a very filmic rolloff.
This work in raw too!!
So instead of having 18 stops of dynamic range all in the shadows, it trades some of that for the highlights.
Having clipped highligh from a 9k camera when fuji doesn’t do that at 1/10 the price?
Thanks for the excellent as usual review. It is a joy to watch and listen. Too bad, I just bought the Hasselblad X2D.... :D
On this note: Do you have some comparison or personal opinion on the image quality between these two (after converting the Hasselblad 3RF files into monochrome)?
I'm glad monochrome is still being supported. However, Leica is out of my price range and frankly doesn't have the features I'd be interested in. It's more a fashion statement imho. I'd be far more interested in a "hands on" of Pentax's new K3-iii monochrome, something actually affordable.
i want it.
Very nice video. Brisk and factual. Thank you! A lot of focus on the visuals of the camera like all Leica videos. Who else cares about whether the ISO A setting mark is red or white aside from Leica owners. 😮😂. My Q; how does the light metering and risk of blowing out the highlights compare to the M10M in real life shooting. I loved the latter camera BUT hated the ongoing need to protect the highlights and then fix it all in post. (I like to share out of camera JPEG output as well as shooting RAW to process my best ones and found it quite difficult to do this with the M10M due to the need to protect the highlights which messed up some of exposure of the JPEG output). Sounds like the M11 M metering and sensor is better here? What is the real world difference in normal shooting conditions to the M10M. Which one to buy? They are both such interesting cameras. Well done Leica for continuing the line!
Love this camera, love the images it produces, price of entry is very high for me, but thinking hard about buying it or it's successor, which will require a few long years of putting aside funds.
Imagine, SONY would introduce a monochrome A7R5 with the same IMX455-ALK-C sensor at the cost of an A7R5.
Ted. Sorry for a stupid question. Maybe I didn't understand. When I want to have b&w images - Is it better for me to switch my camera to bw at the beginning even when shoooting in RAW. My sensor still have these filters which maks colours .. Or better results are when I switch to bw at the beginning?
Thanks to your preview, I took the M11M, the Summilux 50 and the Oberwerth bag…. I couldn’t be happier! 🙏
Do you have a third eye? haha...nice review!
Given the limitations of inkjet printers, how well do the benefits of a monochrome camera translate to printed photographs? i.e., If making a black and white print is the end-game, is there any noticeable difference between printed images captured on an M monochrome vs a standard M. Seems like an obvious question but can't find any post on the topic.
Wonderful video and very informative. I recently bought the m11 2 weeks back. But I only do black and white (fyi I'm not a pro). I still have the option of returning but then I do away with the option of color (even its 0.1% of the time). Would you recommend returning the m11 and going for the m11 M instead? Or are the differences not noticeable between the m11 and m11 M in post processing?
Let's be a little more honest about that cost of entry. The cheapest you can get into an M11 monochrome with the cheapest Leica lens is literally double the entry point for not just a Nikon but for a Nikon Z 9.
That's not just "pretty costly". That's "insanely costly".
OK - so how do the images compare to your Sony that you had converted to Full Spectrum - given the pixel difference and age difference between the cameras.
If only Leica would sell the M series at a more reasonable price I think they would be the most popular choice today.
They are priced correctly. The rangefinder mechanism alone is as complicated as any expensive swiss watch. Get one in your hands, you'll understand the price immediately. Plus they hold value incredibly well. It's rare to lose much money on a Leica when you resell.
@@fieldstonestudios that’s understandable, but Leica has gotten to a point where they are pricing themselves out of the professional to prosumer market. With a new increased price of about $9,200, the M11 Monochrom is $900 more expensive than the 2020 launch price of the M10 Mono, following a years long trend of increasing prices since the M10 launch at $6.5k in 2017. The new Monochrom is also around $2k ~ $2.7k more expensive than you can get a used M10 Monochrom as of today. The reality is Leicas have and probably will always be a luxury item purchase for those with the deepest pockets and that’s fine. We’ll just never see mass adoption and I think Leica users probably prefer it that way.
Another great video and lovely photographs. Have you ever gotten your hands on a Pixii camera? It would be great to see what you made of it, given its colour and mono capabilities! Cheers. :)
Wow … something to aspire to one day. Just spent the morning shooting an Ilford B&W film sim with my Fuji X100V. Thanks for another excellent video! 📷😀
Great video as always. I was going thru some of your older videos. Love the show on Fred Herzog. He is one of my favorites. I have purchased your other presets in the past and was wondering if you would do a Preset pack around previous great photographers. I would buy it on day one. Would love a Herzog Preset and a Warhol preset for an example. If this is not something you are interested could you point me in the direction of the fuji or Kodak preset that you believe best represents Herzog colors. You are the best!
The M11 is one of the most ridiculous cameras ever produced for those people with wallets heavier than their camera bags, but your review gave me some inspiration to do more with black and white. I should convert my color images more often to black and white. It’s always wonderful and my experience is that many people find them more ‘artistic’.
I have been intrigued for a while with the possibility of shooting a monochrome. I use three Leicas for work: two Ms (9 and 10r) paired with different lenses and an S2 which is now the backup of a Phase. I would jump into one of these tomorrow but the price point is too hefty. It’s been a while since I purchased any gear new. But I might try eventually with an M9 monochrom or a type 246. I really liked the work you showed. It helps to see results coming from a real photographer.
Great video you get a 👍
Sometimes I love all the Leica hype when primarily men get so excited about their new piece of jewelry, but other times I also hate it when I look at it a little sensibly, because at the end of the day Leica can seem to me like it's an expensive jewelery for primarily men 😉 So is the also new Pentax K3III Monochrome a more sensible choice?
The point of entry is a very high bar but I think the invest of you shoot relentlessly will pay-off. I am undertaking a lot of monochrome work in Europe & this type of body would be great.
You have the BEST sample images for this camera on the web🤗 i might get this because i love BW portraits and film is getting too expensive and too hard to find in my location.
Much though I'd love one, it's been less than a year since I bought an M body (the new M6), so it's going to have to wait a while. How's its performance in the highlights compared to the M10M?
This is great news. This will hopefully saturate the market with M10M bodies momentarily.
I own a Leica llla camera. If I want to shoot B&W I load Kodak P3200 film. However I prefer color.
I think I’m swayed… but not convinced yet. I would like an excuse to go B&W so I don’t have to color grade and then just say “that’s my style!”
But I’ll think about it. It really does put a lot more emphasis on the subject, focus, depth of field, and contrast… and you have to force yourself to think B&W and ignore color. It really is an artistic stretch
This is sooooo effing impressive. I would love to use it, but I need to shoot both color and black and white.... so this camera is, unfortunately, unpractical to me.
My Leica monochrome is an IF with a roll of Tri-X in it. Seriously though, great review Ted, Thanks.
I'm pretty rude to the files coming from my Canon, but that boost and the curve push was wild.
Feels like my dream camera, I mean perfect for me and what I do. One day when the war is over Im gonna try one. BTW it interesting how trichrome photography gonna look with this
After it’s 4th iterations of monochrome cameras, I still do not have the money to buy one. Then I stop watching it.
The images are incredible. I would love to have a camera like this, perhaps when I strike it rich! Keep up the great reviews. I always enjoy your channel.
Bro, you deserve 1M subs.. I've been watching you since 4 years ago. Great content!
Excellent video. Also, Excellent images. Thank you. Now I can only dream
lovely pictures you've taken as always an in the meantime I've been shooting in black and white most of the time with my M8 while dreaming to own a monochrom one day.
I think it is too expensive for me.
I am so happy Leica came out with this camera now I can get a much better deal on a MR 10. I really need that $700 camera bag.
Wonder what percentage of people watching these videos would be in the position to even consider getting a monochrome point and shoot for that price.
Leica's are beautiful but obscenely expensive.
Is the bag in the same league as a Leica price wise?
What is on the eye piece @5:08?
I see that the Oberwerth bag follows form with Leica... at $700!
beautiful video .. a question in what position do you set the iso and the speed for street photos ..?
I wish other camera manufacturers had monochrome cameras apart from a few high end MF cameras