Going Our Separate Ways RTW Ep30
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Before you get worried, we do think we'll keep going, together. The music makes it SUPER sad though, which I think is a fun, and honest, reframe of some of what's happened.
The break is great, I've been having a blast and so has Liss. Thank you all, particularly our patrons, commenters and sharers!
See you all soon.
-H(&L)
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The builds:
Two DR650's roughly 2014
Laila: Harry's Black Bike
DR650 2012 (I think) with many mods
Lynx fairing by Britannia Composites. Great product.
Safari 37 litre tank
Mosko Moto Backcountry 35 panniers with quick release backing. Also, AWESOME. No rattle, seconds on and off, easy to find the place to put it.
Pelican Top Case with Caribou mounting system. Unsure on this one. It bounces, as it only has two forward points of contact, so I've installed a thong dampener so it doesn't bang any more. While it has locks, it also has standard bolt heads accessible, and I reckon I could rip it off forcibly but I won't try.
Tyres Australia D606 rear, Tractionator Dualventure DV tyres front. D606 is great, Tractionator not.
Montana 700i with satellite tracking beacon and SOS and messaging, can share location with home and call for help in remote places
Airbox and carbs modded
Teknik suspension, highly rate it
Safari Seat - all these seats hurt I can't pick them apart
BnB Bash Plate
Risers
Doubletake adventure mirrors
Tatanka: Liss Eggy Bike
Lots the same
DR650 2014 with mods:
Safari 37-litre tank
JNS LED headlight
Yolk-tinted windshield
Doubletake adventure mirrors
Andystrapz panniers (they do the job and nothing more)
Yellow second-hand pelican case, bolted ingeniously to the bike with buttonheads underneath so only removable by opening the box and removing the camera and reaching through the foam. Works rather well, if I do say so myself.
Liss' bike has been lowered in the rear, but she doesn't want to lower the front.
Watch this video for a video of the build and prep: • Preparing for the WORL...
Big hugs to the both of you. You gotta do what you gotta do but Harry, don't let Liss go too far for too long. Sometimes we do not realize what we have until it is gone.
Harry pull your head in mate and don't let Lis go off on her own. Harry your fascination for mud and off road is spoiling what should be a Great around the world trip. Good luck and stay safe to both of you and I hope to see you both back on the tube soon.
Very often in your travels I’ve watched you struggling through the mud and thought, ‘what’s the point, that didn’t look like fun’… if it’s tricky riding conditions you want Harry, you can do that back home.
Were I in your shoes I’d be fixing in mind some key dates, plotting a route, and then going for it. A long overland trip involves compromise… you don’t get to see it all, instead you see a little bit of a lot of places and you move fast.
You can always return later and immerse yourself in a culture of your choice.
Good luck!
Harry does not seem to be the compromise type. And that's OK, as a rule. But you cannot just do what you want when on a trip with another human being. If you are not going to compromise, take a solo trip.
And human decency demands group rides accommodate the less experienced rider. You simply cannot take the "tricky track" of a rider in the group is not comfortable with it. Thats downright dangerous.
Two points off for Harry in my book. - Frank
This guy seems very selfish .
Arrogant and controlling
Guys I have watched you from the start of your journey to this video. I must say that I applaud what you are doing and am somewhat envious of what you are doing too, However I must say that it is a big undertaking, riding in pairs for such a long way. Married or not married people will always have their different wants and want nots. So that is a huge challenge to overcome when riding and seeing things together. I agree it is fun to see the sights and learn things as you discover them and to then learn more and hopefully grow within oneself. However a world trip in this day and age is not cheap and the longer you explore, learn and grow the more money you will need. To me the financial aspect is a big factor in a trip like this. Having said that getting from A to B in a quick fashion can seem good but it will create the situation of "what if we", "we should've" and what not. In short I think Harry needs to rein his curiosity in a bit. Less off road stuff thus getting to the destination quicker. Then possibly using that time saved to learn and explore within a close proximity. I think time is something that you may have but as a couple you need to ensure both of you are happy so as to not explode in a fit if rage and well we know where that could probably end. Anyhow good luck and stay strong, I am sure with some deep thought and contemplation you guys will come up with a great plan/solution.
Imagine the trouble he'll get himself into now without a calm person to check the ego. This will be hilarious. Safe travels Liss, good move.
Yep, been there, done that, on a DR650 in Thailand. I can see myself in some of your adventures. But I think you are quite mad, attempting dirt tracks on loaded DRs in the wet season. But you are having fun, at least some of the time, and that's what counts.
For me, I now live in the rice paddies North of Bkk, bought a new Guzzi and I'm staying on surfaced roads.
Keep the shiny side up!
I had an absolute blast!
Same happened to Ed March (C90adventures) and Rachel on their trip around the World. Different expectations, different wants. Its only natural. Hell I get fed up with my mates on a two week tour, as we all wany fifteenth yhings. Its not that we all don't like each other. Celebrate your different agendas, but have meet up points and dates along the way, and have the best of both Worlds. Been following you both since Harry had the Aprilia, selfish of me, but don't stop now! Please!
Sorry Harry but seriously I dont know why Liss puts up with you. Earlier on in the series you were actually quite rude to her, then you proceed to go on tracks which were difficult for Liss and at times reduced her to tears.
Liss you can do much better than Harry you are a beautiful and intelligent woman , i'm sure you will work it out . This is written by a 66 year old male biker who has experianced plenty of life and relationships
Hey Liss I admire your tenacity . I’ve learnt over time when riding with my wife that she doesn’t have the same skills and confidence I do , but I still love having her ride with me. I just have to slow down and choose the right route . Hopefully Harry also learns . Stay safe and enjoy your ride
Harry’s Mum here:
Hopefully this is just a ‘time out to regroup’ because you are both such a good unit. I’m struck by the general tenor of kindness from the good people who are your followers; who understand the rigours of together-travels, while not being too critical. Like me, they see the difficulties of ‘Harry going off and looking for trouble’ and Liss’s ‘hell-bent on making it to Europe in time for next summer’. Time apart will hopefully help that accommodation. Hope so.
Hell no!
If you're in Chiang Mai you absolutely HAVE to do a few days in Pai. You could even commit to the whole Mae Hong Son loop. Brilliant. Adventure. Pai is my favourite place in the world so far. Absolutely stunning and not at all the madhouse of some of the more tourist centric parts of Thailand.
Enjoy guys
Howay bonny lass, point that bike in the opposite direction and ride as fast as you can.
Good on you guys, these trips are hard, tiring and just testing in everyway. Jay and I did a mini break for 1 month off the bikes in India. I went hiking in Nepal with my girlfriend and he went to Sri Lanka. We had always planned to do it but the time off the bikes really helped reset and get excited for the second half. In an ideal world I'd want to do 1- 3months a year and leave the bike along the way then fly out and continue in little Chunks, unfortunately life doesn't allow for that haha.
Keen to see what's next in your adventures when you come back.
North and Left abit
Will be keen to watch Liss and her travels. Should be far more interesting.
Sorry to hear your travel problems, hope you can sort them out and stay "a couple", your vids are fantastic and your personalities come across as great...very entertaining and I always look forward to your updates , good luck for the future and wish you both well cheers
I love your wry humor, I hope you both never lose it, even as your paths diverge for awhile. Your strengths complement each other's weaker areas, and that is part of the pleasure of watching you solve problems together. We hope you find happiness in whatever form it appeals to you.
Can really relate to your "problems." It is hard riding in groups, even when you know each other. Personalities really shine through when riding/traveling.
Really brave to split for a while and I belive there is a huge chance this will be positive for you.
Keep up the good work. We can't wait to see what this adventure will bring you guys!
Harry, you need a CRF 300 Rally. That bike is way to much for your eagerness and ability mate. You need to walk before you can ran, especially if you're planning on going around the world. Keep it tidy. Satety first bro.
Deciding on a goal is one thing, having a plan to achieve it is another. I hope you manage it. I will miss your content.
Have your own fun and always cherish the moment. Ride Safe and Ride Often 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Oh guys. I'm so sorry to hear. I hope it's not true.
Don't loose your best friend over those little issues. I've been there and hate to see you guys go through it too. 😥
Did anybody _not_ predict this? I reckon a month is about as long as two good friends can travel together before needing time and space to do their own thing.
It's especially difficult when you find your own expectations of freedom and adventure being limited or directed by someone else's. However much you love them.
Solo motorbike travel is such a blast of freedom that it would be a shame if you didn't build it into this long journey, more than once. Plus it gives you more stories to tell to each other.
เห็นคนขี่แล้ว FC ฝั่งไทยก็เป็นห่วงเหมือนกันถ้าเกิดอุบัติเหตุขึ้นมา FC ฝั่งไทยก็จะเข้าไปช่วยนะครับ
Good luck guys, stay safe on your solo adventure. Can’t wait to see next episode…
You gotta do what you gotta do and you'll be stronger for it. Have some fun, take a personal journey then regroup and see where you land. Best wishes to you both.
Thats whats traveling is for . doin what you like in your own pace .
I think doin something on your own time to time is great and will prevent you from losing the fun in traveling .
Really really love both of you..please come back soon. Be safe and come back bigger and better. Look forward to that. Cheers...🤙🤙
Tore both my rotator cuffs and acquired achy muscles of arm and forearm just by watching. Even using proper body mechanics and lifting technique, how do you two manage that many repetitive lifts?
Geez. Big call. Good luck. When you return I feel you should be clearer on your vlogs purpose. Is it about the bikes, the adventure or is it a vlog about being on holiday. I feel you’re about bikes, travelling on bikes, and can really provide a more specialised humorous 2 wheel format. Love ya
Very disappointed Harry. Your are being incredibly selfish. That wonderful journey as a beautiful couple requires care and compassion. Care is far greater than love. You really want to place your needs ahead of her safety, let alone your own riding separately. You need each other, enjoy this awesome adventure we all envy, together. Pull your head in bloke.
I really hope you guys come out the other side of this break stronger and together. In the meantime, stay safe and have fun.
Gotta do what ya gotta do. Safe travels legends 👍
Here's a big hug for you liss🥰, safe travels .
You guys need to start blocking some of these offensive fuckheads from your comments, I know more comments help the algorithms but you got to draw a line somewhere. Or maybe I've had too much wine 😁🤷♂️ Hope you guys don't end up growing apart there's too much of that going around lately. All the best ❤️
I agree darlinks
@@margarita8442 starting with you, ya maggot.
Those little comments you are always giving, what she's doing wrong, that's damaging. You need to give it a rest man. Can see the hatred on her face every time you make one if those comments.
Needed more communication, honestly.
he picks at her like a sore wound
Well Margarita will be happy! .... momentarily lol.
I have tried to help
Well, best of luck with your individual endeavours, even over the short term a break to refocus is always a benefit. “Clears the head” as some might say. Can’t wait to see what you each get up to. Watch out for crazy chickens 🐓 or axle-burying mud traps! 🫣
Well, I'm not surprised. I've seen the cracks for years. My wife, who has religiously followed Itchy Boots with me, won't watch this. And hasn't for several years. She can't tolerate the way Harry treats Lis, and I do cringe often. He puts Lis down a lot, and is a bit of a self centered git. Personally I think Lis should go the rest of the trip on her own. If Noraly and Elspeth Beard can do it so can she. Maybe meet a few times along the way, by air maybe, to see how things progress. Lisa has grown in confidence and capability in so many ways since the start of this series. Harry, only a little bit. The best to both of you, but frankly, I think especially for Lis, that means not as a part of this couple.
I think time apart will be so good for you two. Having your own time to yourself will give you perspective, like you said, on what's important to you in traveling. I think you two will be able to find a happy medium between Harry's careless rides into riverbeds and Liss's wild expectation to not ride in the dark or on dirt roads in a RTW trip.
Hi great movie very nice mounted ;)
Definitely difficult when you both want such different things from your journey, and I understand you both. Having a small hiatus from each other and then showing and talking about it will give you both a real chance to get the best out of each others needs and desires for your onward travel.
Wishing you both a happy excursion and a beautiful time meeting back up.
Remember scrambled egg's you need to break the eggshells.
We need to travel at our own pace, there's nothing worse than feeling pressured to go slower or faster. I like to travel alone because I find riding in a group often insulates ourselves from the experience, we tend to stay in that bubble whereas solo you have to engage with the world. Being solo isn't for everyone & I can understand why some people prefer not to travel alone, but being solo hasn't hurt Kinga of 'on her bike' or dare I say it.. Noralie. Best wishes to you both.
Yeah we're still finding the best way to do that. I find I have to pull over and wait a lot or dawdle, and it's hard to stay focused when riding slow. Similarly I think Liss can feel jangled, though she tells me she doesn't really worry about trying to keep up. Her pace is the overall "get to London" but mine is "rush to the next place we can chill for a week or so". -H
Hey takes a lot of gutts to realize your dreams.... good luck the pair of you!
Having watch every episode of the trip so far, and many many of your previous content, I am kind of pleased for you both to have a little bit of time where you can both go and do the things you enjoy, without causing the other to enjoy things slightly less. I am sure it will help you having this time now, for when you get back on track with the trip.
c90 had to split too. They rode to the same places but not together.
Nothing to worry about you two. A short break every now and then is great and works very well with my riding mates. As a matter of fact it is the “extreme togetherness” that ruins trips and relationships sometimes lol. I have a couple of mates that persisted on staying together on long outback trip and now don’t even talk to each other. This is sad as I am sure a few days apart would let cooler heads prevail and would have defused the escalating tensions. While the heavy off road sections will be easier both psychologically and physically if you are together, it is not a necessity. Solo adventure travelling heightens the sense of adventure and clears the mind. Your bikes are very capable and you both seem resilient and very capable. I have been following your adventures now for a while and I think you have come across most situations off road can throw at you. So a bit of separate travel a very good idea.
Hang in there it is a great adventure you embarked upon and in the future you will remember even some of the most frustrating experiences with fondness
Watch the episode with lyndon Poskett and Lucas I believe they went separate ways in Thailand too lol. You MUST be identical goals, visions, and daily desires in travel,you both with grown and fill your souls traveling more independently...
Sad, I enjoy the chemistry between you, but this is why I ride and tour on my own. Rule your own life! Intrigued to see how this is going to pan out now. Stay safe both🤘
I finally caught up on your videos to see this one. (Been too busy riding and not watching videos, lol) The two of you have different travel styles, being real about it and not burying it until it comes out in frustration or anger is good for a relationship. It's also important to be considerate of the other's needs, i.e., if Harry wants to do a tricky track maybe there is a paved route that Liss can take and meet up with him or making a pact that there won't be any night riding, etc. Also, I think it's important to have solo time, even when you get along well. I've enjoyed your antics for years and hope to continue to for many more. Much love and see you on the other side.
Like watching a long, slow car crash. Painful yet we still stare.
No Regrets. It was a fun ride if this is the end. Thanks. I've enjoyed your adventures.
Hopefully you guys will sort things out. When riding with my wife I always consider her abilities. The journey is so much more fun sharing it together. And that means taking one for the team and taking the easy routes. Save the hard and difficult stuff when your on your own or with mates. Really enjoy your channel. Merry Xmas to you both. Looking fwd to more eggshells.
much luv u 2!!
✌😘
No huge surprise. Sadly.
The break sounds like a good idea. Enjoy
Hate to say the breakup was inevitable. I'm surprised you made it out of Darwin tbh.
It is difficult being together *all the time,* especially if you normally work separately.
Being plonked together 24/7 in a challenging environment is not easy - you *MUST* have a time-out every now and then and do something completely selfish.
Rinse and repeat.
I want a Dr 650 now because if they can handle you two's rough shit they can handle anything.
Guys I’m a RTW traveller currently on your own country and got on your heels!! Anyway, this video was epic, raw, honest, brutal, and amazing, thanks for being so honest, I haven’t watched many of your vids but I will now, especially I’m not far behind you guys, shipping to Malaysia soon I hope.
Anyway keep it up and I’m sure the break will be great for you both! I hope to meet you along the way, where is the final destination?
I just saw you on Paddy's new episode. I will follow your fantastic journey now. New subscriber from Norway 😊
What ever you do stay positive , safe and enjoy your travels
Cracks in the shell. Inevitable.... 😑
I like you guys, and would like to watch you. But the slow pace of travel looses me. Watching you have troubles isn't of much interest to me. Videos need drama, but this is to much with nothing ever accomplished. I love Itchy Boots and would say and each video is a story with beginning, middle and end. You are just chaos.
Harsh
You've lost her mate, I have seen that look in her face before....she is already out the door
Yukk. I feel sick watching this
อยากมีที่เที่ยวอีกเยอะครับไม่อยากจะให้ข้ามไปต่างประเทศ FC ฝั่งไทยเป็นห่วงมากๆเลยครับ
It’s common for people to get on each other’s nerves when they spend so much time together. Taking some time off is a good idea , but you should ask yourself “do I want to see this person walk out of my life forever?” Hopefully the answer is “no “.
Except for the support crew and dedicated cameraman, this reminds of Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman's 'Long Way Round' series.
I always love the content guys ,and will be here when you get back.
All the best with the solo riding. That much time together in small hotels in unfamiliar environments with the physical effort of dirt riding will test any relationship. Then youve got the added different expectations of travel. I think a short time apart then regroup is a wise decision under the circumstances. But so is good communication and balance (in everything) though.
As far as some comments go, viewers only see a heavily editted version of the days/weeks even if the videos have consistencies each time. Only Liss and Harry will know who and what things need to change. BUT... as a viewer, Harry's constant jibes towards Liss and apparent no compromise choices are going to chip away...
As far as content goes, I'd love for it to remain as an adventure riding with dirt focus channel first, then travel channel second. But ultimately its your trip!
enjoyed your journey, but was expecting something like this sooner or later - no offence but its hard enough being together during " regular" times.This is exceptional times and I think both of you would enjoy some solitude and " me time"!. after your "time out" things may get back to your normal. either way enjoy yourselves and wish you best of luck and everything nice. Looking forward to your next video together !!! ( youll both be back riding together, Im pretty sure) Cheers
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Hi you two , harry go and sit in the naughty corner.
Liss you be careful riding alone in a strange country.. just kiss and make up will ya.
Seriously be careful ride safe.
Harry mate , give and take , are you going to sit there and not follow . Come on life is short to short .
Hope you can ride together again... Sometimes always small miss understanding about route where to go... Just safety 1sr when ride alone... Enjoy your ride!!
Thank you Nor we'll get through it I'm sure
When I saw the heading on my phone a dark shadow dropped over me and I felt instantly gutted. Further down the track watching on my PC I realised it was not a permanent decision....."whew". I've worked in the tropics and all the hot places in Australia and like Liz would want to pass through the south Asian countries so I could get on with the world tour. I love watching you get in the shite Harry and all the human f up's you make but agree with your lovely wife. When you don't make plans you plan to fail. Any man would be proud to have a Liss with him and you've pushed too hard Harry. Love you both to bits.
พูดสั้นๆแต่ได้ใจความขอบคุณนะครับ FC ฝั่งไทยเป็นห่วงเสมอ
อย่าทำให้ FC เป็นห่วงนะครับ FC ฝั่งไทยเป็นห่วงมากสุดๆเลย
Harry do what you gotta do brother. Make wise decisions.
Take a deep breath. Exhale. Ride safe and neither of you lose your gift of humor.
จะทำอะไรก็ขอให้ปลอดภัยนะครับ FC ฝั่งไทยเป็นห่วงหมดทุกคน
Mud is mud. You can do all the mud riding back home during weekends. I don’t think I can leave my girl partner to ride off alone. Just old school me
Yeah I did feel nervous about the idea, given that almost 100% of her riding has been with me for the past 4 years... But I also think it's good to spread your wings, and I had wanted since day 1, to spend some more time in places learning and getting to know people. It was a good compromise and she handled it beautifully. After 6 months of being together through everything 24/7, it was also a nice break. -H
Ideas:- stop trying to get a new rider to do experienced rider stuff. Lis' skills off road are improving, but unrealistic tracks and roads for her skill level make it not fun.
Sounds like you two should not be riding together.
I was worried this might be a Break-Up 😞 Reminded me of the channel "c90Adventures" when Ed and his Girlfriend went their separate ways on their MotoTrip from Alaska, USA in the Arctic to Argentina on the tip of South America. Any chance you ever watched that series.?
Liss: Yes, I was reminded of the same thing when we were making the episode. I have confidence in our relationship avoiding the same fate though
GRAND :-) Cuz you scared us Viewer with the Title and Thumbnail. BTW: I am a MotoGirl watching from Canada
@@RidingOnEggshells give it up darlinks
and the safe word is?
I think Grace can really drink
things happen... ;)
😢
ขอบคุณมากๆครับที่มาเที่ยวประเทศไทยขอบคุณด้วยใจจริงๆครับ
FC ฝั่งไทยก็อยากให้คุณเที่ยวสนุกนะครับเอาจริงใจด้วยครับพ่อค้าแม่ค้าทุกคนในคนไทยเป็นกันเองรักและเคารพจริงๆ
His attitude and actions must make it feel more like travelling with a teenage son. As someone who travels on road a lot with my partner on her bike, you need compromise, of which i see nothing from him
Harry: You don't seem to demonstrate one of the primary qualities I would consider necessary to do the 'compromising' thing to speak of... And that's judging people at their best. Maybe I'm doing the same, judging you based upon a single nasty comment, but maybe you're judging me in a similar way. Maybe I'm an annoying prick and you're a judgemental old curmudgeon. Maybe you're a well-meaning person who's drawn to criticise in the mistaken assumption it improves or 'fixes' something; and maybe I'm an eager chap who likes to explore and maybe that's what she likes in me. Who knows? I don't, what is interesting is that you think you do.
Unfortunately posting such an attitude on a platform will get people judging you..:.youve chosen what to be judged by…..Maybe worry less about yourself and how you look. ‘Shes leaving me’ as if shes doing something wrong by you. It shouldnt get to that. Bordering on self indulgent narcissism
@@Zx10rob I can't quite follow your half thoughts. I'm sure they were interesting to you though.
Have a think. Maybe not just a nonsensical reply
@@Zx10rob yeah it's so funny I was thinking the same thing. I am happy that I communicate well with my partner and that we're very happy. What's interesting is that you think you know better about us, despite knowing so little.
That kind of hubris will not serve your well. I know mine doesn't serve me.
Do whats best for you Liss i have noticed Harry being a bit of a dick, love you both but stopped watching a while back because it was becoming apparent, Harry no offense but sometimes you dont know what you have got till its gone, take care guys :)
Great series and could see was not going to last the journey. There's no point in going easy and taking the least challenging route as this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I think Harry's better off not being the "babysitter" now, and you both can enjoy your independant travels.
Liss come to Geneva in early Feb, A friend lends me his Chalet in St Moritz, we can ski for 10 days,, And there is an excellent salon there !!
I feel liss will come back to australia and harry will bust the wallnuts with a thai flower !!
As a qualifies and expereined astrologist,, highly regarded in the industry.. , What are your star signs ?
relationship very similar to the DR650;s -- very clapped out !!
Any woman who had to endure all that mud without a hair salon must be very strong !!!
Shame on purposefully knocking over a other rider. Even more so, your girl friend.
What gave you the impression it was intentional? -H
Liss go on a ship cruise,, forget all this mud and flies,, find a good salon !!
Relationships can be rocky. It's a fallen world Guys- stick to Jesus.
You cant trust Jesus he is DEAD!