I was humming "Yesterday " by the Beatles this morning. I'm pretty sure both Alexa and Siri were in ear shot of my voice. Expecting a Cease and Desist email soon.
So true. I gave up playing in a live band with own (good) songs because of this. Music is the best but as a musician you have to rely on managers, agencies etc. But unfortunately these 'people' are not in the business because they love music, they only love MONEY.. Sharks everywhere and honest integre musicians are sensitive people so they get eaten. The music business stinks even more than the movie business.
Sven Jansen Your words come as a comfort to me. I was living in Paris, performing. I gave it up after six years- too many sharks, and that’s including the musicians themselves. Back to my wood craft; it’s much more peaceful.
Mr. Knopfler is the legend of all legends. After Dire Straits, he's been working on mesmerizing solo albums till now. No break, just pure genuine renditions about people, life, love, soldiers, and so on..
"Let's call this exactly what it is: a shakedown" - Tony Soprano. Get a job, you dipshit lawyers! I totally got Rick's back on this. He's got every right to be upset.
If I had a child that wanted to be a record company executive I would try to steer them towards a more honest career like, oh Say Whore or drug Dealer.
That's probably why he doesn't do it. If anyone remembers The Cure, their keyboardist Roger O'Donnell was hit with a takedown on MySpace for his own song!!!!
Carlin was a comedian but a speaker for the people.... He observed society, pointing out that those that rule , Injecting control via social engineering to control YOU.... ... Many looked in the mirror , many in the audience probably laughed uncomfortably, , with things so ridiculous , just had to laugh.. Thats a rippa , because bizarrely, its probably true thats exactly what Sony would do!
@@cheryllakin3077 Celtic said, RUclips.... Two vastly different delivery mediums. As for a Concert on RUclips?? Who Knows..... Thats just another discussion I imagine.
@@cheryllakin3077 He ranted about it some years ago on his MySpace page. He was so kind and replied to me when I commented on how he explained his recording setup and how it worked. I was so thankful and he was so courteous. Anyway, it was his own "channel" or whatever MySpace called it, but yeah, his own company realized it was him posting his own music. Pretty stupid.
“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There’s also a negative side.” Hunter S. Thompson
Why I quit. I started playing because I love music. After learning how to play instruments. I wanted others to hear me play. Of course I wanted to be paid for my performances! But that became a big problem and Life Threatening Situations. Many artist dying poor as their records continue to be sold.
I am an attorney in Texas and I am looking for a way to stop this kind of harassment of RUclipsrs legitimate fair use of copyrighted material. Likely will require class action. That’s the only way I can see to make it worth fighting
Steve please keep the "worth fighting" whine to yourself pal. We hear it enough from you a-holes. BTW..you aren't gonna do a Goddamned thing because you aren't smart enough to realize just how "worth it" it is.
I'm sick of the abuse of copyright by big corporations. Copyright law exists to protect people from having their work ripped off without accreditation, to present a clear product to the marketplace without confusion as to who created it or who deserves the revenue from that product. No one is watching a video where a song is clearly presented as an existing work by an artist and a section of its melody used as an example about songwriting, and being confused or misled about the ownership of that copyrighted work. No one could ever think you wrote that song, no one could then listen to the original song and think "Hey, these Beatles guys ripped off Rick!". It's essentially free advertising for the original song. No revenue that would otherwise have gone to the rights' holders has been misappropriated by Rick. Copyright law should not be about conglomerates nickel and diming the world because ten seconds of a song happens to be used as an example.
I don’t see how Ricks use of the song is any different than quoting something in a research paper or any other writing and adding a footnote citing the source.
This is because the music industry is dying a slow and painful death and they are reduced to shaking people down for money. The same four a holes write every pop song now. Every pop song today is nothing more than a dumbed down four chord version of what music used to be. They are attacking the little guy because they don’t have a viable strategy to promote compelling acts to make them real revenue.
Im with danehb89 this is getting way out of hand. what next; oh he put the same G cord in his song. So he is copy writing my song. ok people looks like musicians have to make a union to fight these conglomerights. first ordeal is deal with You-Tube Google. They might be a great corperation that has made a good service at one time. But now it's Corrupt to the fullest by Greedy Make the rules up as they go along, Conglomerights. The only thing is Rick . You got to way your differences and decide if you should even bother giving them royalties at all . Take down the vid . Do another Discription of it . One without using Beatles material. I mean . If they are going to bitch about making money. Then don't give them any. Your knowledge is great. You can find some other way to describe the riff you want describe what you want to describe. Your knowledge is vast. You Show them.
The music industry is hurting because they make a small fraction of what they used to make from album sales through streaming, RUclips, etc. This greatly reduces the profitability of more niche artists and causes them to market music aimed at the lowest common denominator that will stream a song or album over and over and over again.
Even better, may be LBRY, which is ablockchain based video platform that allows earnings to be paid DIRECTLY to a content to creator by a viewer through a crypto that is exchangable for USD. No Middle Man, no corporations, no policing of content.
That wouldn't work. It's the record companies that file the claims. If youtube (or another platform for that matter) doesn't comply, they sue RUclips. That's why Rick says: RUclips wants to stay out of it. They just comply, rather than go on a multi billion dollar lawsuit road with the record companies. If RUclips was out there to fight these claims, they would do it. But they're in the business of showing videos. You can call it cowardly, but I can understand their standpoint. Losing money over a moral or ethical standpoint is not something a business wants to be known for. Sadly...they'd have the suport of the people, but it's gonna cost them a lot of dollars.
Mike Philippens you are 100% correct that it’s the record company not RUclips. Any platform would have the same happen on it. But you are off on one point - RUclips not wanting to lose money in the fight. They are owned by Google. And Google is worth 1,000 Billion dollars (that’s a trillion but 1,000 billion sounds better!). So spending a couple hundred million on lawsuits is pocket change. They know what the record companies are doing is wrong but they are choosing to let it happen.
@@LAGreg123 Still, they choose not to do anything because they don't want to loose money. I don't mean that their profit goes away, but a lawsuit against the record companies could be a millions of $$$ for lawyers. It's gonna cost them money, so they won't do it. They will only do it, if something would happen to them if they don't. So maybe a world wide action from the content creators. Let's say one day (or longer) upload only videos where your complain about this situation en setup a petition to change this situation. Call the media, get all the big content creators on YT to participate. If there's enough negative publicity, they'll change something. There's enough bad publicity about Google being a monopolist, so in this case that works too.
Carl Sagan wanted to put "Here Comes the Sun" on the Golden Record on Voyager to traverse the solar system. EMI said no. Essentially, if aliens want to listen to the Beatles, they are going to have to pay for it.
It is now out of the Solar system completely - it was meant to traverse the Milky Way galaxy, and will be carrying those pieces of our culture when our entire civilization is completely forgotten - too bad The Beatles didn't get "A Ticket to Ride."
If it were the artists getting paid by all this, I'd have less of a problem with it too. But it's not the artists, it's the corporations, usually not even the ones that provided the production facilities in the first place, just buying and selling title to works they had nothing to do with making in order to collect a share of the profits they had no part in producing. Nothing but parasites.
well, that's why they bought the rights of the songs - to make money from it. It's their business. And they don't sell records anymore, so they try to get it from the internet. It's vomit-inducing, but it's how it works
The corporations make a lot of that possible though. God knows 99.9% of the artist in the world would starve to death if they had to run their own business. The question isn't about whose getting paid, it's about using the copyrighted material to' '...advance knowledge or progress through the arts,' (taken right from the wikipedia Fair Use Copyright page) or not.
Class action lawsuit against the boughten music establishment, for creating this toxic atmosphere, need to happen by the actual artists, forever being ripped off by this false fraudulent corporate misrepresentation!
@@chrisa3961 the point is, in no way can any of the people making money off the music claim to have *"earned"* it, nor can they claim that laws that allow them (as opposed to the actual creators of the works) to make that money serves to incentivize the creative process or anything like that.
But Rick, why would I go out and buy a record when I can just listen to a 12-second segment of one of the songs in a teaching video? C'mon dude, these gigantic record companies gotta eat.
@@sonikku997 Rick has 1.64 subscribers at the moment. Calculate: 12 secs times 1.64 million gives us 19.2 million seconds or 5.333 hours equivalent to 7.111 long play records (45 minutes each) of copyrighted musik. At ₤10 each there will be 70,000 lbs missing in their pockets and this hurts JPG&R and their companies.
i guess the beatles answer to that question would sadly be: pay for the right to use the songs in order go make money by teaching music with them songs.
@@PaulPaul-vj2vx "... the teacher AUTOMATICALLY surrenders all his profits ..." so basically bring youtube education down to the level of the shtty teacher jobs in public schools. yes, that'd be beautiful. "free education" usually means not having to pay to get educated rather than not getting paid for teaching.
I firmly believe 85% of the Music Industry now is just the money, and while that is extremely vital to success, they've forgotten what made the industry important. The passing of musical talent, songs, and knowledge has been scrapped for the most part for revenue, it's pathetic.
RC32 I have people telling me that the industry is 20% ACTUALLY MAKING MUSIC and 80% ADVERTISING. I don’t care if that’s how it really is, that’s just ridiculous.
@@bobbywillis1466 It is. Like I said, people now in the bigger businesses favor more money, and that's why they take over of any claim they can "legally" get their hands on via YT or other platforms. This doesn't apply to every corporation, but definitely to the ones that we see everyday.
Rick - I'm 100% in agreement with you on this. I have a suggestion: you should get in touch with Joerg Sprave (The Slingshot Channel - 2.5M subscribers) who is in the process of setting up a RUclipsrs' Union in Germany. He has backing from the largest unions in Germany. Word on the street is that YT is scared of this dude. He speaks excellent English and he's funny as hell. He may be interested in expanding the scope of his proposed union on an international basis.
Which is why I gave up on music five years ago. I knew this is where things were heading, either you get ripped off from them stealing your material, or they claim it was already theirs to begin with. I hope they all go bankrupt and burn eternally in a white hot hell.
There is absolutely NO incentive anymore to be a musician starting out. You'll get screwed over on the internet, playing clubs is a thing of the past to get your start. You basically have to either be a cookie cutter pop/rap star who can easily be controlled through drugs/blackmail/etc, or a legacy act to make any sort of living off of "music" these days. The industry ate itself and will inevitably crash and burn by cutting out the creativity which first bred them success.
I also heard about a case of a music teacher, who made a backing track on RUclips, someone took that track and sold it to an indian artist who sang her lyrics over that track and promoted it as her new song and boom: The teacher, who originally created the backing track received a copyright claim. Copyright law is so fucking broken!
Here's the fucked up part. In Western music there are 15 key centers, three which are enharmonic. Inside each key center there are modes. Inside each mode are a set amount of notes ascending or descending. Only so many variables can be made with a finite amount of notes, chord progressions, whatever...so, there will never be any melody of music that could not be analyzed to be similar with another composition. Unless it's an obvious ripoff like Vanilla Ice's song was, it's damn near impossible to not hear past influences in every genre. Imagine this in rap where most of it is similar in style and arrangement. Lunacy to limit art defined by how many notes on in this case, where a popular scale resembles a famous song.
Had this happen to me as well. Also had my ISP back in 1999 get a letter from a publisher because I had "illegal mp3 files" on my website. Those were my songs. They later tried to claim that because I used certain instruments, they owned the rights to the songs by proxy because the companies were somehow related. Needless to say, nothing came of it because they didn't dare try this in court. But today, they don't have to go throught the court. Honestly what I'd do is get legal counsel and sue their asses. It will be a monetary loss for sure, but I would NOT rely on the youtube processes in any way.
Lmao agree, Game Freak was so lazy with SWSD, they're just selling because they have brand and because it's the first game on switch. I hope temtem or other competitor manages to move the tide so this people realize they're not doing great.
@@Vintagestep They should take notes from the Animal Crossing devs! Have you seen how much the game has evolved with New Horizons? It looks great for the fans of the series.
@@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 I talked with people and my partner about this. botw was a huge effort even if the story was extremely lame, but they made huge improvements in art and game direction, so kudos to them. AC team that is also Splatoon team did amazing these years, Splatoon 1 was amazing, Splatoon 2 fell a bit into the trap of making maps more open and the game feels less strategic, but they got a more complete experience with more varied music, more scenarios and modes, and the DLC was REALLY GOOD. Mario Odyssey wasn't as innovative but the game is really really polished, I haven't played Fire Emblem, but they seem to have gotten to their roots before the DS era while keeping things from the DS era and people seems pretty happy about it, AC just looks amazing... And yet you have the best-selling IP, pokemon, being so so lazy with a half-assed game, poorly animations on combat and cut scenes, a really lame script.. heck the only thing keeping it alive is how people are exploiting the raids to farm shinies and flex them with their friends, competitive in the top places is stagnant too. and yet I bought it, my partner, too, a lot of people because we wanted to share that first experience on switch, and yeah the saving grace to this is the community behind the game, otherwise, I would have dropped it with a really really bitter taste.
The reason they're doing this is because of desperation. Musicians are now becoming independant and working amongst one another and can make their own money from streams and RUclips. Good riddance to these labels.
You should start your own band and call them The Beatos. First single: Swedish Furniture: 'I once assembled a chair. But first I must share.... this stuff isn't fair.' I don't really know that this would solve anything actually.
My dad wrote thirteen #1 songs (country). As I showed him You Tube vids by the hundreds of his work and he learned how easy it was to play his music royalty free, he went crazy ! He had no idea ! Of course, he never owned a computer and thought the internet was a passing fad. But, as the years went by and we set up a few channels for him, he realized that these sources were actually keeping his music alive and relevant. Song that were 30 years old were getting views, getting shared, getting learned and played. Then, he felt differently. Now that he's gone, I'm grateful for these sources, because they keep him here through his music. Just a perspective.
Solution: publishers should be punished for frivolous claims as vigorously as RUclipsrs for infringement . There should be a three strikes from them, too.
RUclips dosen't want to deal with the lawsuits, the music industry loves to sue, even whe they know they are gonna lose, just to make people waste billons and send a message.
Creators should do a strike and hide their videos for a week, i don't think youtibe wants to lose that money either, that might get them to take proper action and value creators
@@tatomar001 Nah, too risky, the algorithm will just punish them and reward new, smaller creators or those who don't participate, it would be just a shot in the foot if they don't have at least 90% of the creators with 500k+ subs on their side.
Not only is this quote wrong, the real quote was about the TV industry, not the music business. It's still true, but stop reposting quotes that are completely wrong. Sincerely, Einstein.
I'm pretty sure being misquoted would piss off Thompson more than a lot of the crap people try to align him with erroneously. What greater disservice to a writer can their be than changing their words?
@@SweetSpotGuitar Yes, You're exactly right but the LA music industry is possessed by money and that's the devil's advocate. Sign your life Mr. Johnson and will make you a Star...
The music "industry" is going to implode if this continues. All we will have left is pre-programmed crap that store bought singers are hired to put vocals on.
Yep. Labels are becoming more and more obsolete and they know it. Pop music hasn't changed much in 25 years, because the big record companies found a formula that makes tons of money, and that is all they care about. Mainstream country music is a good example of what happens when you let label executives take creative control from artists. There are so many incredible musicians making diy music nowadays, and they don't have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars to record an album. And music fans don't need radio stations to introduce them to these artists. Instead of having a few handfuls of superstars with multi-million dollar record contracts, I'd like to see more of these diy artists be able to make a living wage from their music.
Remember when Google (owner of RUclips) was first starting out and had in their Code of Conduct the phrase "Don't Be Evil", which was a swipe at other larger companies like Microsoft and IBM, who were supposedly so awful. They were essentially trying to claim the higher ground as though they were a company that "cared" about its customers. Then, when Google got big enough, they dropped that phrase from its Code of Conduct. This pattern happens with every company: 1) Pretend to care about customers, 2) Get big and admit you never cared about customers to begin with.
Dude. Named your kid “Lennon?” That’s a copyright infringement and you’ll have to forfeit your kid....In fact, my mentioning “Lennon” here (twice) is an infringement and well...we’re just going to have to delete me.
Carrie Fisher talked about signing the rights to her likeness away when she signed onto Star Wars in 1975, and lamented the fact that every time she looked in the mirror, she owed George Lucas some money.
Last week I got SIX copyright claims on ... MY OWN MUSIC ... literally. I shared an hour-long Piano album I released two years ago, and shared it on my YT channel. Minutes later, SIX companies claimed copyright on this music. These are all HYMNS from the 1800s 😳 arranged and recorded by me on solo Piano. How in the world can someone claim copyright ON MY OWN MUSIC? Whaat?
Paul Smith I submitted a dispute immediately. Out of the six claims, four were released immediately. The other two are just sitting there with no reply ... I guess those claimants are just salty they can’t reject my dispute and are just going to let the claim expire in 30 days. At least that is my hope ... Thanks 🙋♂️
Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I believe you said that the songs were hymns from the 19th century. So they aren’t in fact totally yours. However, if they are that old, they should be in the public domain by now and therefore royalty free. Sorry to hear about your troubles, keep writing it’s important.
And then it hit me. THIS is the reason I had to learn “twinkle, twinkle little star” and “When the saints go marching in” in music class at school, because had we learned to play any other song we would’ve had our lunch money shaken down by Sony.
Funny thing - schools do have to pay for their music, even when that music is in the public domain. Unless! They write out the public domain song and publish the sheet music themselves. But you can't copy somebody else's printing, and sheet music publishers will deliberately include errors in the printing so that they know when somebody else has copied *their* version of the public domain song. Which then allows them to sue the person who copied it. So, even if it's in the public domain, you have to find a printing of it that's in the public domain to work from so you don't get sued by a publisher. And they can be fierce about that stuff because it's so easy for new competition to come along.
Why don't all the large RUclips channels organize and bring a class action suit against RUclips for legitimizing bogus copyright claims? This is becoming a very common complaint, and probably won't change until RUclips suffers a financial consequence. They pick on channels individually, but I'd figure many of the largest RUclips channels would have a collective interest in putting an end to this nonsense. Edit: it's really like some of you haven't watched the video, but are still commenting. No one is complaining about LEGITIMATE copyright claims. The, quite obvious, bogus claims being honored are just leeching money from content creators. The goal would just be to pressure YT to create a better system than rubber stamping every single claim as legitimate.
They should do this! Some RUclipsrs who really care should get together. The only problem is that these 'record labels' have a strong team of lawyers to protect their money. :/ It's all a complete scam smh. It's a shame really. Mans biggest flaw is greed, this right here is a perfect example of this.
It's not Google's fault. They got gang-jumped by the entire corporate entertainment industry, and while Alphabet has deep pockets, they weren't willing to roll the dice on losing billions in court. The current system was designed by Google as a way of making themselves bulletproof against the army of lawyers which got sicced on them. The alternative to what they have now was either shutting RUclips down or risking the loss of billions of dollars _and_ shutting RUclips down. Suing Google will do nothing. They're following the path of maximum profit and least risk to themselves. The problem isn't Google, it's late-stage capitalism where people are allowed to "own" sequences of genes or Pepsi blue.
Saul Zaentz was his name, l believe. A co-producer of the Academy award winning movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" along with Michael Douglass. Owned Fantasy Records and signed CCR to one of the worst deals ever for an artist. John Fogarty wrote a series of fantastic, enduring 3-minute songs. But as an inexperienced kid, he didn't realize he'd signed away his publishing rights. One of the most sickening examples of greed and preying upon an artist in an industry rife with them.
You're entirely justified in your anger. There's an old saying about having a handful of sand and what happens when you squeeze more tightly. The entire media industry is a poster child for that saying.
I've received what must be hundreds of copyright claims on a my channel when I do album reviews and analysis videos. I've disputed every single one of them via fair use. Yes, some of them get rejected (mostly from Universal and Sony) so then I appeal them, all of them. Finally yes, some of them get rejected then as well (mostly by Sony) and I have gotten copyright strikes. I then submit a counter-notification (basically, "Remove the claim, or take me to court"). I have gotten every single claim and strike removed from my channel. I have even gotten my channel taken down but then later I got reinstated by not letting up on my disputes. I know I'm a smaller channel, but you can fight them. These are all scare tactics as they do not expect most RUclipsrs to actually fight these (let alone have knowledge on IP and copyright law) and they certainly don't want to waste the time and money to actually pursue these in court. You hit the nail on the head when you said "RUclipsrs are scared," but somebody's gotta fight this fight. Hell, even Anthony Fantano never plays the music that he's talking about on his channel. Hell, I might be the only one fighting this fight, but somebody has to fight it. Sorry for the long comment but this something I deal with daily on my channel so your rant resonated with me. P. S. I've gotten claimed for Beatles tunes multiple times and have successfully fought them all off. I believe they were "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da," "Something," and "Hey Jude."
I’m glad you have been successful in fighting every claim. It kind of sounds like you need to file a cease and desist claim against them to get them to stop harassing you.
@@vaporman442 I feel like that'd be a hard thing to pull off. Having basically the entirety of the music publishing world being legally forced back off on copyright claims on one specific person seems like it could easily be abused from a neutral standpoint. I'd prefer a more open line of communication between music RUclipsrs and the publishers if anything.
Side note: The Hendrix Estate has done more to keep Jimi Hendrix dead and buried and diminish his legacy than any copyright-infrigning fandom could ever hope to do.
You should have entitled the video "What makes this rant great episode#1". Keep up the videos coming. Your channel is by far the most and packed with knowledge and information when it comes to music.
I feel like RUclips could edit the revenue sharing so that claimants only get revenue based on the portion of the video they can claim. In this case, 25 seconds of music should only net them 2% of the revenue for the Mixolydian mode video. RUclips wouldn't be circumventing their copyrights either, they still would get credit for their copyright, but only as it applies to the amount that can be claimed. It seems like that would be a simple first step that could be done fairly quickly. If these publishers only get small portions of revenue, they might stop claiming since it wouldn't be financially worth their time. That or a class action lawsuit, which most RUclipsrs seem to either not be serious enough or too scared to try it.
@@JeffJefferyUK Maybe not, but this has gotten out of hand. For people like Rick who are educating people its not right for them to put so much effort into videos to only have a majority of the revenue go to someone else for simply using a short excerpt.
If RUclips didn't have these policies in place to placate the rights owners, then RUclips itself would be out of business and tied up in court cases. They set up this policy with the rights holders, so that copyright material could be consumed on RUclips. The end result would be that instead of What Makes This Song Great getting demonitised, you just wouldn't have it at all.
They shouldn't get anything if you play less than 30 seconds of a song. It's that simple. To teach music how do you show someone what to do. They'll try and claim copyright on a drum pattern next. Ridiculous.
As a retired teacher, I was struck by one sentence the moment you finished saying it: “But this is a teaching video.” And by extension it is a learning video as well. I find Sony’s antics just one of a slew of examples by large corporations that continue to contribute to keeping folks in general stupid and ignorant. Keep on truckin’, Rick!
@@15thirty yes but then youtube will not be free anymore, either for the creators or for the viewers. youtube is constantly loosing money and can only stay afloat with googles money
It'll be even worse when Google takes over the world. It won't be long and everyone is happily contributing to doom's day. This is the society we deserve, I'm afraid. Money, money, money, ....
That's nothing. In California, Google and Facebook were going to be taxed for its employees using the roads. They turned it around and got a measure to pass that would increase everyone who uses the bridges in the San Francisco Bay Area by $3 over a span of a few years. Thanks!
Of course, the record labels had no problem stealing the music from black blues artists (I think Robert Johnson got a total of $75) and having the rock titans record the music. That's what they do, that's who they are. Before I watched this video, I said to myself, knowing it was the mixolydian video you were going to talk about, "That's a perfect and precise example of Fair Use." You're 100% right and your anger and rant is completely justified.
Yeah, they were always honest and truthful with white blues artists! Record labels royally screwed over all artists, didn't matter what their race was, if they were ugly or gorgeous, it turns out that no matter how big they are, or how many hits they produce, the record labels will screw you if you don't wise up to their antics.
Paul Davids had a similar situation. I think RUclips should establish a Teacher/Educator Channel sub classification where these frivolous claims are made much more difficult to make.
Thanks for that. These rants are usually when your videos are the most instructive to me. And also where I agree the most with what you say. Keep on fighting.
@@philfrank5601 There will always be someone willing to do the work for free. RUclips will just send us there. The template has been made. That's all they care about.
Agree and good points. Question though, if good content creators like Rick and others know this, why do they keep posting videos about how much they hate it? What’s the point of keep saying this?
Google/RUclips bends over backwards to serve the wealthy and the powerful--the brutal Chinese Communist Party, for example--but they couldn't care less about the people like you and me who make RUclips popular and wealthy.
Thanks for explaining this and since music began, it has always had shady characters, rip-off artists. and just plain low moral people and out-right thieves in the music business.
Or as a "Wizard of Id" comic strip put it: The King says: "Remember the Golden Rule!" Peasant #1 asks: "What's the Golden Rule?" Peasant #2 replies: "Whoever has the gold makes the rules."
"So, what do you do for a living?" - "Well I watch hours of RUclips videos looking for 14 seconds of a copyrighted tune, and then harassing the RUclipsr" Christ, If that was MY job, I'd contemplate taking a bridge.
James Slick “Well, we wouldn’t do that. We’re too rich. But did I hear you say something about taking a bridge? It just so happens I’m in the bridge sales business. Would you care to take a look at our catalog? You could make all your money back in tolls within a year!”
Record companies serve virtually no useful purpose at this point. Any moderately resourceful musician with an IQ over 90 can record and distribute their own music from their basement. Punk kids in the 80s DIY'd a global musical and cultural movement into existence. They created their own labels. Published their own magazines. Recorded their own albums. Booked their own tours, very often in their own venues. Made and sold their own merch. Made their own documentaries. And they did it all without a dime of record company money, virtually no radio airplay, no MTV, and with hysterical cops and and parent groups hell bent on shutting down every show. They also did it without digital recording and mass communication technology.
Cancel19 Fogerty wrote Run Through The Jungle but Fantasy owned the library and rights. They sued him for stealing that song for The Old Man Down The Road. Ultimately John won. I think John counter sued and they had to pay for his legal fees.
@@djray369 Thanks Ray. Amazing how these record companies think they own you like a slave. The two songs to me sound completely different however they both are Fogertyish cuz for pete's sake it's John's voice. No wonder Prince changed his name to a symbol to fight these greedy companies.
When my mom died, I put together a slide show of pictures of her with James Taylor's Something In the Way She Moves playing in the background. I put it up on RUclips and shared a private link on FB so that people who knew her could watch and remember. Within a day I received a copyright infringement notice and was told the video would be taken down. The bastards have no heart. They'd rather err on the side of "pay me" than do the right thing. Welcome to the machine.
@@magneto7930 RUclips. It's not about you. It's about powerful special interests. They really need us to be dull, not imaginative (especially as that relates to politics) and not rebellious. What we need to do, if we don't care, is to determine what those powerful special interests want and don't want and then please ourselves by also pleasing them. We may have to sell our souls and our children, but success (in this dark world) isn't free.
@Darrell Styner: Do you mean _Something,_ written by George Harrison, first released on the Abbey Road album? A cover of it by Taylor? If the notice came from Taylor or his people, I don't think they can claim ownership. It would have to be the Beatles and their copyright owners. Maybe unless you were using Taylor's recording of it. Fred
@Golden Knight I get your point and I'm not saying it's okay to steal copyrighted material just because you're bereaved. I'm just annoyed by their heavy-handed enforcement of a very minor infringement. I'm sure any feeling person at the label who saw the slideshow would have said, "let's let this one go." But there are no feeling people making these decisions. They wrote a bot, it found a link and followed it, found a digital signature, and sent an infringement notice to RUclips. No people involved. This was a private link seen by a few friends and family members. I get it that it's easier for them to just say no to everything. I just wish they'd be a bit more discriminating.
I am so sorry to see this happening to you. You give so much to us and RUclips should be on your side. This is pure harassment and theft. It makes me sick that the music industry is doing this and this is why so many people steal music. The industry is disgusting and I am so glad you're calling them out on this thievery !!!
And yet RUclips pays hundreds of thousands of dollars to channels that have the most idiotic content. We learn from your channel and many others instead of being spoon fed mindless junk. It’s evident that those in power want a future filled with unquestioning, unintelligent non-individuals ...
"We the sheeple" .. They want us to work all day pay taxes on earned income that we physically work for and to buy things and be consumers and also pay a tax on everything we buy. We are getting taxed at both ends everthing we earn and everything we buy...its savage
RUclips is an advertising platform. Period. Content is irrelevant. The only thing that they care about is that you click on videos and get exposed to adds.
Can you write a letter to Paul McCarty’s management team and see if Paul would support you with this mis-use of the copyright law. He claims to be supportive of music education. Your case is black and white and he may be able to get behind you on this. Besides he and the rest of the people that collect payment for copyright use of Beatles songs needs their music used for educational reasons to help secure their catalogs future worth. Thank you Rick for being an active teacher in Music Education. God speed.
@Aaron Winton I was thinking exactly the same thing regarding Paul McCartney. Unless I'm (sadly) mistaken, I would think Sir Paul would be supportive of what Rick is doing from an educational standpoint, first and foremost. (But yes, even a bit from a legacy of the Beatles standpoint as well.) I think at this stage McCartney'd encourage something that cultivates the appreciation of music in general, which in turn inspires current and future generations of listeners and the artists who will be creating music. IMO, Rick Beato's channel does this on a very high level. Its presentation is professional and Rick is way beyond merely knowledgeable. And as a teacher, his enthusiasm for his subject is both undeniable and contagious. What more could a student ask for? Sir Paul, what do you think?
I would love to see a big law firm take on all these cases together in a massive class action lawsuit on behalf of RUclipsrs. Because it's CLEARLY a violation of fair use law. The case is there. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you have a case or not if Sony is the only one with high-powered attorneys. Also, RUclips themselves seems to have no interest in catering to anyone but the record companies. They could easily deny invalid claims such as these, but then they'd end up in court. It's easier for them simply to steal from RUclipsrs who have little legal recourse.
This isn't new, and I'm a bit surprised a class action against major publishers and record companies hasn't happened yet. IANAL, and I'm foreign, but it seems to me legal recourse is the US way of fixing the system.
Fair use needs to be protected. I'm sure a lot of artists probably don't know the extent to which online educators get hit with these bogus claims. I'm sorry you had to go through this. Keep up the good fight Rick. There has to be a middle ground.
Great argument. I was challenged on a 12 Bar Blues song. The irony of it all was that the song in question which I was supposed to have infringed was actually ripped off from Jeff's Blues by The Yardbirds and mine sounded nothing Like the Yardbirds. You are right though, it does scare the youtuber because they havn't got the resources to fight these claims or risk getting strikes . I'm hoping to get Manuscripts made of all three songs to demonstrate my innocence. Rick is doing a great job taking these people on in what is a National, and International scandal against both teaching and creativity. The other issue of course is in Education, the listener may well go out and buy the original after the said study. My Music teacher did a lesson on Deep Purples' "Concerto for Group and Orchestra" and half the class ended up buying the album and more Deep Purple for years to come. The Giants need to respect that as they get lots of money off us anyway. Vinyl, CD, Deluxe CD, Reissues with Bonus Tracks etc. VHS , DVD, Blue Ray. The Whole Music industry is Money driven.
Please do not feel that you lost control Mr. Beato (the appropriate way to address a much respected teacher)! Allow me thank you for once again educating me about music! Sharing your experience so openly has only taught me more! And BTW yes I absolutely agree with you!!!
I’m a photographer that looks far and wide for legitimate violations of my work. I would NEVER have looked at this as a violation - these people are greedy to the nth degree. Good on ya for informing the public. Keep fighting!
The only reason I come to “your” channel and enjoy “your” videos is because of you. Because of your style, knowledge, enthusiasm and how you produce your content. I don’t come to hear the Beatles. Whether you use the Beatles as an example or some other artist or song is irrelevant. If the mixolydian scale video was presented by a robot nobody would watch it, simply because people don’t come for that. They watch for you. You are the content. You create the value. Not the Beatles. It’s exactly as you said Rick - it’s a money grab. A fairer money grab would be to reverse the percentages. Eg 67% to you and 33% to the rights holder, because their music is only supplemental to the content you create. The internet is just the Wild West and big corporates just have the best horses, guns and judges in their pockets. I hope you stick around Rick.
Agree, except for the percentages - he shouldn't have to pay a dime for fair use. They should be pleased that someone of his caliber and following played a portion of the song because perhaps people will go out and download the song to hear it in its entirety :-)
Good point, personally I would like to see Rick seeking out and helping promote cool underground bands as that is where the future is at. Bands like Hello Echo, 16 Frames, SeaBear, Soft Pipes, Boy and Bear, The War on Drugs, Jason Lyle, Steve Kilbey, Mental Pictures, Brock Tyler, Still Corners, The Spectacular Fantastic, Adventure Galley, The Elected, just to name a few.... Screw the major labels as they constantly rip everyone off, including the artists themselves. Signing a record deal is like signing a Faustian bargain. It removes ones soul and makes one a creature of the slave system.
@@christopherharrison2405 i agree with your comment but Beato has to admit that al his content is about bands that have well made it and dont need him to promote them. Most ppl click on his videos and discover him thanks to the fack his talking about ppl we already know and whose creations we want to know. He is super talented and I enjoy and recomend his channel but he also always uses big name bands to grab your attention. regards
Or, lobby politicians across the board to legally redefine what is fair use of content and what isn't. That might be cheaper and possibly more effective.
Originally in 2011 I had a RUclips channel where I was going over music production, and I was doing a series about New Jack Swing and I was showing the infamous Orchestra hit stabbed that Teddy Riley and Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis would use and I got a copyright strike. I didn't even play a song. I literally just showed the patch that they used and I talked about some songs that used that hit. So I feel you that's why I switched to doing something completely different.
@@mondegreen9709 Well you fell for Obama...which proved you would pretty much accept anything if it was propagandised correctly...and you still haven't realised.
I love The Beatles but I'm pretty sure they played many a cover tune back in the early days of clubbing and the original artists never saw a dime. I'd like to think that Paul & Ringo would give their approval of your teaching music theory through the Beatles songs. Pretty sure it's their lawyers along with the record companies solely responsible for this BS.
@@erichaynes7502 But after the "investor" - the "Rights Holder" - is done collecting their cut, (especially of the profits from a RUclips video which used 14 seconds of a song) - the original artist (if they aren't dead), will get a ridiculously small amount of money. It's like spending a hundred dollars to collect a dime: *it isn't meant to collect any money, really - it's meant to prevent the song from being played or used in any way, by anyone but the "Rights Holder," which, with songs this old, is really just fiscal suicide for ANYTHING the original artist(s) or their next-of-kin might ever see.* Once a song dies, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to resurrect it - like any other event in history, it is eventually written out. It becomes disconnected - a piece of flotsam and jetsam, drifting farther and farther from any frame of reference, or connection to anyone's life, as the people whose youths are connected to it die. Unless younger generations are exposed to it.... POOF! Beyond a certain point, it's just better to let something live on its own - if it is worthwhile, it will survive: Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms: they were all just famous songwriters, whose music was set free - and lives. Corporations are Death personified. The lawyers who work for them are Hyenas, Jackals and Vultures - nothing more.
Keep the faith brother and keep doing what you’re doing. We the masses love your channel and truly appreciate everything you do for us who are trying to learn and better ourselves. Thank you for all you do Rick.
And then your comment too ... for mentioning of mentioning of .... Let's just say: This ... is taken down for mentioning ... What a ... of ... . seriously .... should back off. Fix comment please, copyright is watching ... sorry ... is watching .
There was a guy in Long Island who started the original muzak corporation because he couldn't play popular tunes in the elevator He went and hired the same musicians they made a water down replica of the kind of music he was trying to give the elevator patron.
dont appologise for ranting about something that deserves a good rant
Baron Bayne and more ranting would not be bad.
@@anamericanentrepreneur Agree
Those people are ridiculous... yet in control
The apology is to seem humble about it all. Not mean.
I was humming "Yesterday " by the Beatles this morning. I'm pretty sure both Alexa and Siri were in ear shot of my voice. Expecting a Cease and Desist email soon.
Lmao
@alan wake it would probably still happen if they had windows open and their neighbours Alexa picked it up
You have monitoring devices in your house? You deserve everything you get...
We're heading that direction man..seriously..
If you made a fortune out of that humming, you need to pay them a cut. This is how IP works.
"The music business is something that's completely and utterly separate from music." - Mark Knopfler
Frank Zappa -
"S_trict_LY_ Commercial" !!
So true. I gave up playing in a live band with own (good) songs because of this. Music is the best but as a musician you have to rely on managers, agencies etc. But unfortunately these 'people' are not in the business because they love music, they only love MONEY.. Sharks everywhere and honest integre musicians are sensitive people so they get eaten. The music business stinks even more than the movie business.
@@svenjansen2134 Good comment, Sven. I found it exactly the same... We count time, they count the "green".
Sven Jansen Your words come as a comfort to me. I was living in Paris, performing. I gave it up after six years- too many sharks, and that’s including the musicians themselves. Back to my wood craft; it’s much more peaceful.
Mr. Knopfler is the legend of all legends.
After Dire Straits, he's been working on mesmerizing solo albums till now. No break, just pure genuine renditions about people, life, love, soldiers, and so on..
This is why people pirate music. They see the music industry as a bunch of thieves as well.
"Let's call this exactly what it is: a shakedown" - Tony Soprano.
Get a job, you dipshit lawyers! I totally got Rick's back on this. He's got every right to be upset.
If I had a child that wanted to be a record company executive I would try to steer them towards a more honest career like, oh Say Whore or drug Dealer.
@Luke For educational purposes with no profit ? Come on and get real ! Might as well pay royalties every time you quote someone .
Joseph Bohan That’s coming.
Luke The song was not used m8. Plus, music as an industry needs to either die or be reformed, it’s enough of a mockery of music as it is.
Publishers: "Lennon, huh? Yeah, we're gonna need 66% of your kid."
No kidding....lol!!!
@@ConglomerationCat 33% kidding
they are the taxman, yeah yeah they're the taxman
Im glad he didnt name his kid yoko.
HAHA so true
Sony would probably content strike even if Paul McCartney was singing one of his own songs from the Beatles on youtube.
That's probably why he doesn't do it. If anyone remembers The Cure, their keyboardist Roger O'Donnell was hit with a takedown on MySpace for his own song!!!!
Carlin was a comedian but a speaker for the people.... He observed society, pointing out that those that rule , Injecting control via social engineering to control YOU.... ...
Many looked in the mirror , many in the audience probably laughed uncomfortably, , with things so ridiculous , just had to laugh..
Thats a rippa , because bizarrely, its probably true thats exactly what Sony would do!
@@robertchanrussell2010 wow, that's messed up
@@cheryllakin3077
Celtic said, RUclips....
Two vastly different delivery mediums.
As for a Concert on RUclips??
Who Knows.....
Thats just another discussion I imagine.
@@cheryllakin3077 He ranted about it some years ago on his MySpace page. He was so kind and replied to me when I commented on how he explained his recording setup and how it worked. I was so thankful and he was so courteous.
Anyway, it was his own "channel" or whatever MySpace called it, but yeah, his own company realized it was him posting his own music. Pretty stupid.
Sorry, Rick - "Beato" is just too similar to "Beatles". We're gonna need you to remove a letter or make that section of your name silent.
The name "Rick" needs to be removed, the name Rick is copyrighted to Rick James.
Blæse Métan and Rick Astley
😯😆
Mmm K ....Mmmmmm K also gonna need ya to go ahead and come into work this Sunday..
Rick o
“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There’s also a negative side.” Hunter S. Thompson
How true...
Too true
Why I quit.
I started playing because I love music.
After learning how to play instruments. I wanted others to hear me play.
Of course I wanted to be paid for my performances! But that became a big problem and Life Threatening Situations.
Many artist dying poor as their records continue to be sold.
I am an attorney in Texas and I am looking for a way to stop this kind of harassment of RUclipsrs legitimate fair use of copyrighted material. Likely will require class action. That’s the only way I can see to make it worth fighting
go for it!
Good luck in this dantesque endeavor.
sign me up
Please, do it! This needs to stop. We can't work like this.
Steve please keep the "worth fighting" whine to yourself pal. We hear it enough from you a-holes. BTW..you aren't gonna do a Goddamned thing because you aren't smart enough to realize just how "worth it" it is.
"Some rob you with a six gun and some with a fountain pen." --Woody Guthrie
Some with a Keyboard
Underrated!
You owe Sony money for this comment
@CogitoErgoCogitoSum A six-gun is a revolver with six chambers.
@@therocknrollmillennial535 "I'm a devil on the run. A six-gun lover. A candle in the wind." - Jon Bon Jovi (Young Guns)
I'm sick of the abuse of copyright by big corporations. Copyright law exists to protect people from having their work ripped off without accreditation, to present a clear product to the marketplace without confusion as to who created it or who deserves the revenue from that product. No one is watching a video where a song is clearly presented as an existing work by an artist and a section of its melody used as an example about songwriting, and being confused or misled about the ownership of that copyrighted work. No one could ever think you wrote that song, no one could then listen to the original song and think "Hey, these Beatles guys ripped off Rick!". It's essentially free advertising for the original song. No revenue that would otherwise have gone to the rights' holders has been misappropriated by Rick. Copyright law should not be about conglomerates nickel and diming the world because ten seconds of a song happens to be used as an example.
I don’t see how Ricks use of the song is any different than quoting something in a research paper or any other writing and adding a footnote citing the source.
Everything you said is true... but still, RUclips doesn't really care, and at this rate, they probably never will.... sigh.. :(
This is because the music industry is dying a slow and painful death and they are reduced to shaking people down for money. The same four a holes write every pop song now. Every pop song today is nothing more than a dumbed down four chord version of what music used to be. They are attacking the little guy because they don’t have a viable strategy to promote compelling acts to make them real revenue.
Im with danehb89 this is getting way out of hand. what next; oh he put the same G cord in his song. So he is copy writing my song. ok people looks like musicians have to make a union to fight these conglomerights. first ordeal is deal with You-Tube Google. They might be a great corperation that has made a good service at one time. But now it's Corrupt to the fullest by Greedy Make the rules up as they go along, Conglomerights. The only thing is Rick . You got to way your differences and decide if you should even bother giving them royalties at all . Take down the vid . Do another Discription of it . One without using Beatles material. I mean . If they are going to bitch about making money. Then don't give them any. Your knowledge is great. You can find some other way to describe the riff you want describe what you want to describe. Your knowledge is vast. You Show them.
The music industry is hurting because they make a small fraction of what they used to make from album sales through streaming, RUclips, etc. This greatly reduces the profitability of more niche artists and causes them to market music aimed at the lowest common denominator that will stream a song or album over and over and over again.
Sounds like it's time for a RUclips alternative
People are heading over to BitChute.
Even better, may be LBRY, which is ablockchain based video platform that allows earnings to be paid DIRECTLY to a content to creator by a viewer through a crypto that is exchangable for USD. No Middle Man, no corporations, no policing of content.
That wouldn't work. It's the record companies that file the claims. If youtube (or another platform for that matter) doesn't comply, they sue RUclips. That's why Rick says: RUclips wants to stay out of it. They just comply, rather than go on a multi billion dollar lawsuit road with the record companies. If RUclips was out there to fight these claims, they would do it. But they're in the business of showing videos. You can call it cowardly, but I can understand their standpoint. Losing money over a moral or ethical standpoint is not something a business wants to be known for. Sadly...they'd have the suport of the people, but it's gonna cost them a lot of dollars.
Mike Philippens you are 100% correct that it’s the record company not RUclips. Any platform would have the same happen on it. But you are off on one point - RUclips not wanting to lose money in the fight. They are owned by Google. And Google is worth 1,000 Billion dollars (that’s a trillion but 1,000 billion sounds better!). So spending a couple hundred million on lawsuits is pocket change. They know what the record companies are doing is wrong but they are choosing to let it happen.
@@LAGreg123 Still, they choose not to do anything because they don't want to loose money. I don't mean that their profit goes away, but a lawsuit against the record companies could be a millions of $$$ for lawyers. It's gonna cost them money, so they won't do it. They will only do it, if something would happen to them if they don't.
So maybe a world wide action from the content creators. Let's say one day (or longer) upload only videos where your complain about this situation en setup a petition to change this situation. Call the media, get all the big content creators on YT to participate. If there's enough negative publicity, they'll change something. There's enough bad publicity about Google being a monopolist, so in this case that works too.
Carl Sagan wanted to put "Here Comes the Sun" on the Golden Record on Voyager to traverse the solar system. EMI said no. Essentially, if aliens want to listen to the Beatles, they are going to have to pay for it.
It is now out of the Solar system completely - it was meant to traverse the Milky Way galaxy, and will be carrying those pieces of our culture when our entire civilization is completely forgotten - too bad The Beatles didn't get "A Ticket to Ride."
@@berretta9mm17 Very nice!
Hey if aliens are going to listen to the beatles then they MUST pay EMI FIRST... hopefully in US Dollars... if they even know what $$$ is!
Should have done it anyway. What fuckin damages could they have sued for?
That's honestly infuriating.
Rick you strummed a Dm7 chord followed by an open E tone in one of your vids..... I forget which one, but I'm gonna need a cut. Rant on!
Sooby Yeah I just happened to strum that very same the other day. Send money please
@@johnfrei9057 Oh so you're the guy. I've been looking for you. Cease and desist!
I clearly wrote that lick.. I will see you all in court. And don't even think about doing an Am7 to G.. I wrote that as well.
All chords and variations of C G A F B and E are my property, as I'm using them all the time.
You can keep the D.
@@Obssy I'm known as the keeper of the D
If it were the artists getting paid by all this, I'd have less of a problem with it too. But it's not the artists, it's the corporations, usually not even the ones that provided the production facilities in the first place, just buying and selling title to works they had nothing to do with making in order to collect a share of the profits they had no part in producing. Nothing but parasites.
well, that's why they bought the rights of the songs - to make money from it. It's their business. And they don't sell records anymore, so they try to get it from the internet. It's vomit-inducing, but it's how it works
The corporations make a lot of that possible though. God knows 99.9% of the artist in the world would starve to death if they had to run their own business. The question isn't about whose getting paid, it's about using the copyrighted material to' '...advance knowledge or progress through the arts,' (taken right from the wikipedia Fair Use Copyright page) or not.
Class action lawsuit against the boughten music establishment, for creating this toxic atmosphere, need to happen by the actual artists, forever being ripped off by this false fraudulent corporate misrepresentation!
The artists did get compensated. When they sold their rights to the record labels.
@@chrisa3961 the point is, in no way can any of the people making money off the music claim to have *"earned"* it, nor can they claim that laws that allow them (as opposed to the actual creators of the works) to make that money serves to incentivize the creative process or anything like that.
But Rick, why would I go out and buy a record when I can just listen to a 12-second segment of one of the songs in a teaching video? C'mon dude, these gigantic record companies gotta eat.
A 12 second segment of ONE track, played by a different person. Essentially just chords. Companies think they can own chords. No thanks.
I like your sense of irony.
😂
But what if it's the *best* 12 seconds of the song and it sounds better played on a calliope than the original?
@@sonikku997 Rick has 1.64 subscribers at the moment. Calculate: 12 secs times 1.64 million gives us 19.2 million seconds or 5.333 hours equivalent to 7.111 long play records (45 minutes each) of copyrighted musik. At ₤10 each there will be 70,000 lbs missing in their pockets and this hurts JPG&R and their companies.
"How do you teach music without examples?"
How indeed.
i guess the beatles answer to that question would sadly be: pay for the right to use the songs in order go make money by teaching music with them songs.
🦉 Older music like Mozart is public domain.
@@PaulPaul-vj2vx Have you read anything at all about how copyright is supposed to work? Does the phrase "fair use" ring a bell for you?
On skillshare, lol
@@PaulPaul-vj2vx "... the teacher AUTOMATICALLY surrenders all his profits ..." so basically bring youtube education down to the level of the shtty teacher jobs in public schools. yes, that'd be beautiful. "free education" usually means not having to pay to get educated rather than not getting paid for teaching.
I firmly believe 85% of the Music Industry now is just the money, and while that is extremely vital to success, they've forgotten what made the industry important. The passing of musical talent, songs, and knowledge has been scrapped for the most part for revenue, it's pathetic.
RC32 I have people telling me that the industry is 20% ACTUALLY MAKING MUSIC and 80% ADVERTISING. I don’t care if that’s how it really is, that’s just ridiculous.
...it has ALWAYS been about money. You think EMI is on the map because of their altruistic desire to further art and culture?
@@bobbywillis1466 It is. Like I said, people now in the bigger businesses favor more money, and that's why they take over of any claim they can "legally" get their hands on via YT or other platforms. This doesn't apply to every corporation, but definitely to the ones that we see everyday.
I suspect 85% is an undestatement. But who am I to prove it? This is not the world I had wished to live in.
Popular music today is utter garbage. And that’s not just “being old” or whatever. It truly is god awful
Rick - I'm 100% in agreement with you on this. I have a suggestion: you should get in touch with Joerg Sprave (The Slingshot Channel - 2.5M subscribers) who is in the process of setting up a RUclipsrs' Union in Germany. He has backing from the largest unions in Germany. Word on the street is that YT is scared of this dude. He speaks excellent English and he's funny as hell. He may be interested in expanding the scope of his proposed union on an international basis.
Someone needs to set up both a RUclips and a Spotify style streaming service that is a permanent collective, and not a for-profit entity.
yep definitely you should check him out and join his union
@@foto21 Check out a service called Nebula. It's very similar to what you're proposing.
anyone who has a way to help this happen, help this happen!
He needs to check out Joerg's features!
I saw an artist post about a copyright claim he received on HIS OWN SONG!
Which is why I gave up on music five years ago. I knew this is where things were heading, either you get ripped off from them stealing your material, or they claim it was already theirs to begin with. I hope they all go bankrupt and burn eternally in a white hot hell.
There is absolutely NO incentive anymore to be a musician starting out. You'll get screwed over on the internet, playing clubs is a thing of the past to get your start. You basically have to either be a cookie cutter pop/rap star who can easily be controlled through drugs/blackmail/etc, or a legacy act to make any sort of living off of "music" these days. The industry ate itself and will inevitably crash and burn by cutting out the creativity which first bred them success.
I also heard about a case of a music teacher, who made a backing track on RUclips, someone took that track and sold it to an indian artist who sang her lyrics over that track and promoted it as her new song and boom:
The teacher, who originally created the backing track received a copyright claim.
Copyright law is so fucking broken!
Here's the fucked up part. In Western music there are 15 key centers, three which are enharmonic. Inside each key center there are modes. Inside each mode are a set amount of notes ascending or descending. Only so many variables can be made with a finite amount of notes, chord progressions, whatever...so, there will never be any melody of music that could not be analyzed to be similar with another composition. Unless it's an obvious ripoff like Vanilla Ice's song was, it's damn near impossible to not hear past influences in every genre. Imagine this in rap where most of it is similar in style and arrangement. Lunacy to limit art defined by how many notes on in this case, where a popular scale resembles a famous song.
Had this happen to me as well. Also had my ISP back in 1999 get a letter from a publisher because I had "illegal mp3 files" on my website. Those were my songs. They later tried to claim that because I used certain instruments, they owned the rights to the songs by proxy because the companies were somehow related. Needless to say, nothing came of it because they didn't dare try this in court.
But today, they don't have to go throught the court.
Honestly what I'd do is get legal counsel and sue their asses. It will be a monetary loss for sure, but I would NOT rely on the youtube processes in any way.
You are also speaking for that person with 100 followers who gets screwed but when they scream no one hears, for that thank you Rick.
Hear, hear!
The music industry equivalent of patent trolls. The supply of lawyers has exceeded the demand.
There's only one thing that makes me more angry than Disney Star Wars, Pokemon Sword and Shield, and the Houston Astros.
This.
OMG Pokemon is dead
Lmao agree, Game Freak was so lazy with SWSD, they're just selling because they have brand and because it's the first game on switch. I hope temtem or other competitor manages to move the tide so this people realize they're not doing great.
@@Vintagestep
They should take notes from the Animal Crossing devs! Have you seen how much the game has evolved with New Horizons? It looks great for the fans of the series.
@@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 I talked with people and my partner about this. botw was a huge effort even if the story was extremely lame, but they made huge improvements in art and game direction, so kudos to them. AC team that is also Splatoon team did amazing these years, Splatoon 1 was amazing, Splatoon 2 fell a bit into the trap of making maps more open and the game feels less strategic, but they got a more complete experience with more varied music, more scenarios and modes, and the DLC was REALLY GOOD. Mario Odyssey wasn't as innovative but the game is really really polished, I haven't played Fire Emblem, but they seem to have gotten to their roots before the DS era while keeping things from the DS era and people seems pretty happy about it, AC just looks amazing... And yet you have the best-selling IP, pokemon, being so so lazy with a half-assed game, poorly animations on combat and cut scenes, a really lame script.. heck the only thing keeping it alive is how people are exploiting the raids to farm shinies and flex them with their friends, competitive in the top places is stagnant too. and yet I bought it, my partner, too, a lot of people because we wanted to share that first experience on switch, and yeah the saving grace to this is the community behind the game, otherwise, I would have dropped it with a really really bitter taste.
And Terminator... :|
The reason they're doing this is because of desperation. Musicians are now becoming independant and working amongst one another and can make their own money from streams and RUclips. Good riddance to these labels.
You should start your own band and call them The Beatos. First single: Swedish Furniture: 'I once assembled a chair. But first I must share.... this stuff isn't fair.'
I don't really know that this would solve anything actually.
But would be fun AF.
The fab 4 owes Norway some money....
The Vintage Apollos Hmmm... The Beatoffs? Sell the courtroom reenactment as a pay per view.
What a great ikea though.
The beatos...lmao
When the love of money is higher than the love of the music.... That's the real day the music died.
Keep up the great work.
The O'JAYS!
It was back in the seventies
Hear hear!
Sony destroyed Michael Jackson when he started calling them out as evil
@@annother3350 GEORGE Michael too by the looks! He was owned 100% for LIFE by Sony! Poor bastard!
I can’t wait to buy all words that exist and monetize speaking.
Don’t the Beatles have a song called taxman?
just be happy I don't take it all! (Taxman)
Harry Brown Yes, they do.
Go even further. Buy all the 1 and 0's and sue everyone who uses the internet.
@@Orlor That's really beginning to stick in my mind more and more...
Yeah, 0's and 1's can't be expensive. They're pretty low numbers, right?!
My dad wrote thirteen #1 songs (country). As I showed him You Tube vids by the hundreds of his work and he learned how easy it was to play his music royalty free, he went crazy ! He had no idea ! Of course, he never owned a computer and thought the internet was a passing fad. But, as the years went by and we set up a few channels for him, he realized that these sources were actually keeping his music alive and relevant. Song that were 30 years old were getting views, getting shared, getting learned and played. Then, he felt differently. Now that he's gone, I'm grateful for these sources, because they keep him here through his music. Just a perspective.
Solution: publishers should be punished for frivolous claims as vigorously as RUclipsrs for infringement . There should be a three strikes from them, too.
RUclips dosen't want to deal with the lawsuits, the music industry loves to sue, even whe they know they are gonna lose, just to make people waste billons and send a message.
Better solution: seek out and support local and independent musicians. Forget the soulless music industry that rips off real creators.
Meat for lawyers.
Creators should do a strike and hide their videos for a week, i don't think youtibe wants to lose that money either, that might get them to take proper action and value creators
@@tatomar001 Nah, too risky, the algorithm will just punish them and reward new, smaller creators or those who don't participate, it would be just a shot in the foot if they don't have at least 90% of the creators with 500k+ subs on their side.
"The music industry is a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves roam free, there's also a bad side."
-Hunter Thompson
Yeah, Satan gonna get you, gonna get you...
"long plastic hallway" ~= "dark desert highway" ("Hotel California" was not about some Satanic church, but about the LA music industry)
Not only is this quote wrong, the real quote was about the TV industry, not the music business. It's still true, but stop reposting quotes that are completely wrong. Sincerely, Einstein.
I'm pretty sure being misquoted would piss off Thompson more than a lot of the crap people try to align him with erroneously. What greater disservice to a writer can their be than changing their words?
@@SweetSpotGuitar Yes, You're exactly right but the LA music industry is possessed by money and that's the devil's advocate. Sign your life Mr. Johnson and will make you a Star...
The 405 dislikes for this video. Are the turds employed to find infringements.
@@1pcfred it is good work if you're a piece of crap who can't do an honest job. 🤣
Instant karma's gonna get them, but they'll probably make me pay for using that lyric.
Ya think?!!
Sony employees
A turd is more wholesome than a sh**stain. Dont insult the turd.
The music "industry" is going to implode if this continues. All we will have left is pre-programmed crap that store bought singers are hired to put vocals on.
Yep. Labels are becoming more and more obsolete and they know it. Pop music hasn't changed much in 25 years, because the big record companies found a formula that makes tons of money, and that is all they care about. Mainstream country music is a good example of what happens when you let label executives take creative control from artists. There are so many incredible musicians making diy music nowadays, and they don't have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars to record an album. And music fans don't need radio stations to introduce them to these artists. Instead of having a few handfuls of superstars with multi-million dollar record contracts, I'd like to see more of these diy artists be able to make a living wage from their music.
it already imploded years ago.
U already have exactly that
We need an alternative to RUclips. A monopoly is never a good thing.
Dave B LBRY, it’s going to be the one.
There is an alternative, go outside.
Yes! Competition is a good thing.
BITCHUTE has been around for ages.
@@sirgerbilmacintosh9101 going outside is typically far less valuable than good youtube content...come on now
Remember when Google (owner of RUclips) was first starting out and had in their Code of Conduct the phrase "Don't Be Evil", which was a swipe at other larger companies like Microsoft and IBM, who were supposedly so awful.
They were essentially trying to claim the higher ground as though they were a company that "cared" about its customers.
Then, when Google got big enough, they dropped that phrase from its Code of Conduct.
This pattern happens with every company: 1) Pretend to care about customers, 2) Get big and admit you never cared about customers to begin with.
Oh you used a B flat? Copyright claim.
yeah but ya only get a forth of the money, ya get it , ah nevermind
Never mind the fact that someone might be influenced to listen to that Beatles song because of your video! You might have to charge them commission 🤬
Surprised the aren’t trying to collect royalties on your son now.
They are getting enough from Liam Gallagher.
😂😂😂
Saw his leg!!! Saw off his leg!!! Just kidding.
Don't give them any new ideas.
so far!
Dude. Named your kid “Lennon?” That’s a copyright infringement and you’ll have to forfeit your kid....In fact, my mentioning “Lennon” here (twice) is an infringement and well...we’re just going to have to delete me.
they will claim 66% of the money he'll ever make
you must hand over your child to EMI by 5pm
they only get 66% of him.
Carrie Fisher talked about signing the rights to her likeness away when she signed onto Star Wars in 1975, and lamented the fact that every time she looked in the mirror, she owed George Lucas some money.
Pretty much 😂 damn it’s unfortunate how funny and true it is.
Remember the good ol days when RUclips had no ads and all this BS? Greed greed greed they started with one commercial per video and they got greedy
Last week I got SIX copyright claims on ... MY OWN MUSIC ... literally. I shared an hour-long Piano album I released two years ago, and shared it on my YT channel. Minutes later, SIX companies claimed copyright on this music. These are all HYMNS from the 1800s 😳 arranged and recorded by me on solo Piano. How in the world can someone claim copyright ON MY OWN MUSIC? Whaat?
Florentin Tise are you fighting it? Sorry to hear that.
Paul Smith I submitted a dispute immediately. Out of the six claims, four were released immediately. The other two are just sitting there with no reply ... I guess those claimants are just salty they can’t reject my dispute and are just going to let the claim expire in 30 days. At least that is my hope ... Thanks 🙋♂️
I saw that video you put out...it's getting crazy stupid when you can't even play *your* *own* music!!
Jack the Rabbit Hi Jack 🙋♂️ Good to see you in here. I have no idea how this is allowed 😳
Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I believe you said that the songs were hymns from the 19th century. So they aren’t in fact totally yours. However, if they are that old, they should be in the public domain by now and therefore royalty free. Sorry to hear about your troubles, keep writing it’s important.
And then it hit me. THIS is the reason I had to learn “twinkle, twinkle little star” and “When the saints go marching in” in music class at school, because had we learned to play any other song we would’ve had our lunch money shaken down by Sony.
Funny thing - schools do have to pay for their music, even when that music is in the public domain.
Unless! They write out the public domain song and publish the sheet music themselves. But you can't copy somebody else's printing, and sheet music publishers will deliberately include errors in the printing so that they know when somebody else has copied *their* version of the public domain song. Which then allows them to sue the person who copied it.
So, even if it's in the public domain, you have to find a printing of it that's in the public domain to work from so you don't get sued by a publisher.
And they can be fierce about that stuff because it's so easy for new competition to come along.
Why don't all the large RUclips channels organize and bring a class action suit against RUclips for legitimizing bogus copyright claims? This is becoming a very common complaint, and probably won't change until RUclips suffers a financial consequence. They pick on channels individually, but I'd figure many of the largest RUclips channels would have a collective interest in putting an end to this nonsense.
Edit: it's really like some of you haven't watched the video, but are still commenting. No one is complaining about LEGITIMATE copyright claims. The, quite obvious, bogus claims being honored are just leeching money from content creators. The goal would just be to pressure YT to create a better system than rubber stamping every single claim as legitimate.
That would be a great idea if you all want to get a $0.50 check in the mail. Cuz that's how class action lawsuits go.
Rexx Seven it’s not the monetary gain but rather the monetary loss to YT
They should do this! Some RUclipsrs who really care should get together. The only problem is that these 'record labels' have a strong team of lawyers to protect their money. :/ It's all a complete scam smh. It's a shame really. Mans biggest flaw is greed, this right here is a perfect example of this.
@@REXXSEVEN Sometimes the goal of a class action lawsuit is to change the way blood sucking parasites do business, not to get money.
It's not Google's fault. They got gang-jumped by the entire corporate entertainment industry, and while Alphabet has deep pockets, they weren't willing to roll the dice on losing billions in court. The current system was designed by Google as a way of making themselves bulletproof against the army of lawyers which got sicced on them. The alternative to what they have now was either shutting RUclips down or risking the loss of billions of dollars _and_ shutting RUclips down.
Suing Google will do nothing. They're following the path of maximum profit and least risk to themselves. The problem isn't Google, it's late-stage capitalism where people are allowed to "own" sequences of genes or Pepsi blue.
One of the best court cases was the guy who owns CCR songs to John Fogerty to court saying he sounded to much like CCR.
Saul Zaentz was his name, l believe. A co-producer of the Academy award winning movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" along with Michael Douglass. Owned Fantasy Records and signed CCR to one of the worst deals ever for an artist. John Fogarty wrote a series of fantastic, enduring 3-minute songs. But as an inexperienced kid, he didn't realize he'd signed away his publishing rights. One of the most sickening examples of greed and preying upon an artist in an industry rife with them.
@@josedopwell9645 Badfinger.
You're entirely justified in your anger. There's an old saying about having a handful of sand and what happens when you squeeze more tightly. The entire media industry is a poster child for that saying.
I've received what must be hundreds of copyright claims on a my channel when I do album reviews and analysis videos. I've disputed every single one of them via fair use. Yes, some of them get rejected (mostly from Universal and Sony) so then I appeal them, all of them. Finally yes, some of them get rejected then as well (mostly by Sony) and I have gotten copyright strikes. I then submit a counter-notification (basically, "Remove the claim, or take me to court"). I have gotten every single claim and strike removed from my channel. I have even gotten my channel taken down but then later I got reinstated by not letting up on my disputes. I know I'm a smaller channel, but you can fight them. These are all scare tactics as they do not expect most RUclipsrs to actually fight these (let alone have knowledge on IP and copyright law) and they certainly don't want to waste the time and money to actually pursue these in court. You hit the nail on the head when you said "RUclipsrs are scared," but somebody's gotta fight this fight. Hell, even Anthony Fantano never plays the music that he's talking about on his channel. Hell, I might be the only one fighting this fight, but somebody has to fight it.
Sorry for the long comment but this something I deal with daily on my channel so your rant resonated with me.
P. S. I've gotten claimed for Beatles tunes multiple times and have successfully fought them all off. I believe they were "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da," "Something," and "Hey Jude."
I’m glad you have been successful in fighting every claim. It kind of sounds like you need to file a cease and desist claim against them to get them to stop harassing you.
@@vaporman442 I feel like that'd be a hard thing to pull off. Having basically the entirety of the music publishing world being legally forced back off on copyright claims on one specific person seems like it could easily be abused from a neutral standpoint. I'd prefer a more open line of communication between music RUclipsrs and the publishers if anything.
I hope many RUclipsrs see this comment and start fighting back.........:)
@@Ma.Mama.is.a.StreetDogg That was the whole idea of making it in the first place.
@@pappyman179 good word, thanks.
Side note: The Hendrix Estate has done more to keep Jimi Hendrix dead and buried and diminish his legacy than any copyright-infrigning fandom could ever hope to do.
Preach!
Hendrix, Eagles, Garth Brooks.....the big 3 douchebags of copyright claiming
@Rufus T Firefly she admittedly never even met her too jesus
@@nedim_guitar If you put anything from Jimi on your channel or anywhere your playing music, its a wrap.
@@nedim_guitar you can't even find little wing on youtube which is one of his best songs imo, just ridiculous
You should have entitled the video "What makes this rant great episode#1". Keep up the videos coming. Your channel is by far the most and packed with knowledge and information when it comes to music.
“Fair Use” gets “Unfair Punishment”. This gets me so angry!!
Good juxtaposition parallel
Not gonna lie. Angry Rick gets me fired up.
Ivory Tower he’s such a chill dude it’s cool to see him get after it for a bit.
"You"Tube is digging their own grave.
@Golden Knight ok boomer
@Golden Knight look up "fair use"
"Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman"
I feel like RUclips could edit the revenue sharing so that claimants only get revenue based on the portion of the video they can claim.
In this case, 25 seconds of music should only net them 2% of the revenue for the Mixolydian mode video. RUclips wouldn't be circumventing their copyrights either, they still would get credit for their copyright, but only as it applies to the amount that can be claimed.
It seems like that would be a simple first step that could be done fairly quickly. If these publishers only get small portions of revenue, they might stop claiming since it wouldn't be financially worth their time. That or a class action lawsuit, which most RUclipsrs seem to either not be serious enough or too scared to try it.
I don't think that's how copyright law works.
@@JeffJefferyUK Maybe not, but this has gotten out of hand. For people like Rick who are educating people its not right for them to put so much effort into videos to only have a majority of the revenue go to someone else for simply using a short excerpt.
Exactly he's not just listening to their songs.
If RUclips didn't have these policies in place to placate the rights owners, then RUclips itself would be out of business and tied up in court cases. They set up this policy with the rights holders, so that copyright material could be consumed on RUclips. The end result would be that instead of What Makes This Song Great getting demonitised, you just wouldn't have it at all.
They shouldn't get anything if you play less than 30 seconds of a song. It's that simple. To teach music how do you show someone what to do. They'll try and claim copyright on a drum pattern next. Ridiculous.
As a retired teacher, I was struck by one sentence the moment you finished saying it: “But this is a teaching video.” And by extension it is a learning video as well. I find Sony’s antics just one of a slew of examples by large corporations that continue to contribute to keeping folks in general stupid and ignorant. Keep on truckin’, Rick!
It was a sad day when Google took over RUclips.
Alphabet needs to be broken up. Pronto.
RUclips would already be gone if Google didn’t buy it
@@15thirty yes but then youtube will not be free anymore, either for the creators or for the viewers. youtube is constantly loosing money and can only stay afloat with googles money
It'll be even worse when Google takes over the world. It won't be long and everyone is happily contributing to doom's day. This is the society we deserve, I'm afraid. Money, money, money, ....
That's nothing. In California, Google and Facebook were going to be taxed for its employees using the roads. They turned it around and got a measure to pass that would increase everyone who uses the bridges in the San Francisco Bay Area by $3 over a span of a few years. Thanks!
The music “industry” is very far removed from music itself.
Of course, the record labels had no problem stealing the music from black blues artists (I think Robert Johnson got a total of $75) and having the rock titans record the music. That's what they do, that's who they are. Before I watched this video, I said to myself, knowing it was the mixolydian video you were going to talk about, "That's a perfect and precise example of Fair Use." You're 100% right and your anger and rant is completely justified.
@Doss Koont
And who might that "little Danish twat" be?
Yeah, they were always honest and truthful with white blues artists! Record labels royally screwed over all artists, didn't matter what their race was, if they were ugly or gorgeous, it turns out that no matter how big they are, or how many hits they produce, the record labels will screw you if you don't wise up to their antics.
@@dadduorp I think that would be Lars Ulrich from Metallica.
I agree with you 100%. Enough is enough!!! I've learned more watching Rick's videos that I have in 50 years of playing music.
@@shanewalton8888 Don't bet on it. Money is their king.
This is called a Legit Rant!
That's TRUE. it even says it in the video title lol...
Elementary, dear Holmes! (No infringement because Doyle never used that!)
Paul Davids had a similar situation. I think RUclips should establish a Teacher/Educator Channel sub classification where these frivolous claims are made much more difficult to make.
They used to have it. It was called youtube for schools. But even there you can receive a copyright claim.
That would make way too much sense.
Thanks for that. These rants are usually when your videos are the most instructive to me. And also where I agree the most with what you say. Keep on fighting.
Doesn’t matter how much people yell...
Rick said it himself: RUclips doesn’t care. They’re in the pockets of these companies, and they won’t change.
RUclips is bigger than most of these companies--they are all in RUclips's pockets (i.e., Google's)
There's a good reason Google took out the "Don't be evil" part of their mission statement.
@@philfrank5601 RUclips is an extremely powerful corporation that has the resources to make this better but they just don't care.
@@philfrank5601 There will always be someone willing to do the work for free. RUclips will just send us there. The template has been made. That's all they care about.
Agree and good points. Question though, if good content creators like Rick and others know this, why do they keep posting videos about how much they hate it? What’s the point of keep saying this?
"I named my son after John Lennon..."
*receives copyright violation email from RUclips*
Busted!
You said “John Lennon”..Violation coming your way. Oh wait I did too..See you in RUclips jail..
Rob hahahahaha
Kris Bailey Copyright violation for a name?
Ono!
Man: (just playing his guitar)
SONY: we are gonna need our cut.
RUclips: pay the millionaires or be disappeared ok
Google/RUclips bends over backwards to serve the wealthy and the powerful--the brutal Chinese Communist Party, for example--but they couldn't care less about the people like you and me who make RUclips popular and wealthy.
@@FRN2013 Chinese? WTF? YT is BANNED in China! Look a bit CLOSER to home!
@@FRN2013 😂😂😂😂
DMS, of course it is. But of course the Chinese are obsessed with world opinion about them.
@@FRN2013 True! IF China was so great, WHY do so many come here to live?
Thanks for explaining this and since music began, it has always had shady characters, rip-off artists. and just plain low moral people and out-right thieves in the music business.
Don't apologize for being angry... It's just another Golden Rule: Those with the gold rule. sad...
Or as a "Wizard of Id" comic strip put it:
The King says: "Remember the Golden Rule!"
Peasant #1 asks: "What's the Golden Rule?"
Peasant #2 replies: "Whoever has the gold makes the rules."
"So, what do you do for a living?" - "Well I watch hours of RUclips videos looking for 14 seconds of a copyrighted tune, and then harassing the RUclipsr" Christ, If that was MY job, I'd contemplate taking a bridge.
James Slick “Well, we wouldn’t do that. We’re too rich. But did I hear you say something about taking a bridge? It just so happens I’m in the bridge sales business. Would you care to take a look at our catalog? You could make all your money back in tolls within a year!”
@@wellesradio LOL, I live in Pittsburgh and we have over 400 bridges and they are FREE for the "taking"🤣 (Pisses off River Resuce though.)
It's just the beginning...
"these days, the people in control of music are those furthest away from the creative process".
Record companies serve virtually no useful purpose at this point. Any moderately resourceful musician with an IQ over 90 can record and distribute their own music from their basement. Punk kids in the 80s DIY'd a global musical and cultural movement into existence. They created their own labels. Published their own magazines. Recorded their own albums. Booked their own tours, very often in their own venues. Made and sold their own merch. Made their own documentaries. And they did it all without a dime of record company money, virtually no radio airplay, no MTV, and with hysterical cops and and parent groups hell bent on shutting down every show. They also did it without digital recording and mass communication technology.
Remember when Fantasy Records sued John Fogerty for sounding like John Fogerty?
No way!? That's ridiculous.
Cancel19 Fogerty wrote Run Through The Jungle but Fantasy owned the library and rights. They sued him for stealing that song for The Old Man Down The Road. Ultimately John won. I think John counter sued and they had to pay for his legal fees.
@@djray369 Thanks Ray. Amazing how these record companies think they own you like a slave. The two songs to me sound completely different however they both are Fogertyish cuz for pete's sake it's John's voice. No wonder Prince changed his name to a symbol to fight these greedy companies.
When my mom died, I put together a slide show of pictures of her with James Taylor's Something In the Way She Moves playing in the background. I put it up on RUclips and shared a private link on FB so that people who knew her could watch and remember. Within a day I received a copyright infringement notice and was told the video would be taken down. The bastards have no heart. They'd rather err on the side of "pay me" than do the right thing. Welcome to the machine.
I’m sorry that happened, but what a lovely thing you did. I don’t even need to see it, but I’m glad you did it. X
Where have you been? Its allright we know were you’ve been
@@magneto7930 RUclips. It's not about you. It's about powerful special interests. They really need us to be dull, not imaginative (especially as that relates to politics) and not rebellious. What we need to do, if we don't care, is to determine what those powerful special interests want and don't want and then please ourselves by also pleasing them. We may have to sell our souls and our children, but success (in this dark world) isn't free.
@Darrell Styner: Do you mean _Something,_ written by George Harrison, first released on the Abbey Road album? A cover of it by Taylor?
If the notice came from Taylor or his people, I don't think they can claim ownership. It would have to be the Beatles and their copyright owners.
Maybe unless you were using Taylor's recording of it.
Fred
@Golden Knight I get your point and I'm not saying it's okay to steal copyrighted material just because you're bereaved. I'm just annoyed by their heavy-handed enforcement of a very minor infringement. I'm sure any feeling person at the label who saw the slideshow would have said, "let's let this one go." But there are no feeling people making these decisions. They wrote a bot, it found a link and followed it, found a digital signature, and sent an infringement notice to RUclips. No people involved. This was a private link seen by a few friends and family members. I get it that it's easier for them to just say no to everything. I just wish they'd be a bit more discriminating.
I am so sorry to see this happening to you. You give so much to us and RUclips should be on your side. This is pure harassment and theft. It makes me sick that the music industry is doing this and this is why so many people steal music. The industry is disgusting and I am so glad you're calling them out on this thievery !!!
You need to start a band and call it " The Beato's"
And yet RUclips pays hundreds of thousands of dollars to channels that have the most idiotic content. We learn from your channel and many others instead of being spoon fed mindless junk. It’s evident that those in power want a future filled with unquestioning, unintelligent non-individuals ...
Spot-on
A future?? Sounds more like the present.
George Morrow dude so true 👊🏼💥
"We the sheeple" .. They want us to work all day pay taxes on earned income that we physically work for and to buy things and be consumers and also pay a tax on everything we buy. We are getting taxed at both ends everthing we earn and everything we buy...its savage
RUclips is an advertising platform. Period. Content is irrelevant. The only thing that they care about is that you click on videos and get exposed to adds.
"Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." - John Lennon
And for those kind of revolutionary statements they put him down and out of the game permanently, didn't they.
Rick you are doing great! I appreciate your videos. Keep strong! Enjoying your channel. Greetings from SOCAL
Can you write a letter to Paul McCarty’s management team and see if Paul would support you with this mis-use of the copyright law. He claims to be supportive of music education. Your case is black and white and he may be able to get behind you on this. Besides he and the rest of the people that collect payment for copyright use of Beatles songs needs their music used for educational reasons to help secure their catalogs future worth.
Thank you Rick for being an active teacher in Music Education. God speed.
@Aaron Winton I was thinking exactly the same thing regarding Paul McCartney. Unless I'm (sadly) mistaken, I would think Sir Paul would be supportive of what Rick is doing from an educational standpoint, first and foremost. (But yes, even a bit from a legacy of the Beatles standpoint as well.) I think at this stage McCartney'd encourage something that cultivates the appreciation of music in general, which in turn inspires current and future generations of listeners and the artists who will be creating music. IMO, Rick Beato's channel does this on a very high level. Its presentation is professional and Rick is way beyond merely knowledgeable. And as a teacher, his enthusiasm for his subject is both undeniable and contagious. What more could a student ask for? Sir Paul, what do you think?
Absolutely. Give it a shot, Rick. What you do is fully educational.
Sony is the sole owner of the work in question.
I am afraid Paul has already been assimilated.
McCartney is a great songwriter but I doubt he gives a damn. He is part of the pack.
I would love to see a big law firm take on all these cases together in a massive class action lawsuit on behalf of RUclipsrs. Because it's CLEARLY a violation of fair use law. The case is there. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you have a case or not if Sony is the only one with high-powered attorneys.
Also, RUclips themselves seems to have no interest in catering to anyone but the record companies. They could easily deny invalid claims such as these, but then they'd end up in court. It's easier for them simply to steal from RUclipsrs who have little legal recourse.
and they are allowed to put ads on ur original content and make money off of ur content
This isn't new, and I'm a bit surprised a class action against major publishers and record companies hasn't happened yet. IANAL, and I'm foreign, but it seems to me legal recourse is the US way of fixing the system.
Fair use needs to be protected. I'm sure a lot of artists probably don't know the extent to which online educators get hit with these bogus claims. I'm sorry you had to go through this. Keep up the good fight Rick. There has to be a middle ground.
Great argument. I was challenged on a 12 Bar Blues song. The irony of it all was that the song in question which I was supposed to have infringed was actually ripped off from Jeff's Blues by The Yardbirds and mine sounded nothing Like the Yardbirds. You are right though, it does scare the youtuber because they havn't got the resources to fight these claims or risk getting strikes . I'm hoping to get Manuscripts made of all three songs to demonstrate my innocence. Rick is doing a great job taking these people on in what is a National, and International scandal against both teaching and creativity. The other issue of course is in Education, the listener may well go out and buy the original after the said study.
My Music teacher did a lesson on Deep Purples' "Concerto for Group and Orchestra" and half the class ended up buying the album and more Deep Purple for years to come. The Giants need to respect that as they get lots of money off us anyway. Vinyl, CD, Deluxe CD, Reissues with Bonus Tracks etc. VHS , DVD, Blue Ray. The Whole Music industry is Money driven.
This explains why I got tackled on the subway for humming a tune.
Careful Rick. They'll have you changing your kids names next 😂
Or taking a percentage 🤑
You should sue them for using the first 4 letters of your last name: BEAT.
Please do not feel that you lost control Mr. Beato (the appropriate way to address a much respected teacher)! Allow me thank you for once again educating me about music! Sharing your experience so openly has only taught me more! And BTW yes I absolutely agree with you!!!
I’m a photographer that looks far and wide for legitimate violations of my work. I would NEVER have looked at this as a violation - these people are greedy to the nth degree. Good on ya for informing the public. Keep fighting!
RUclips: making learning easy and then making teaching difficult.
The only reason I come to “your” channel and enjoy “your” videos is because of you. Because of your style, knowledge, enthusiasm and how you produce your content. I don’t come to hear the Beatles. Whether you use the Beatles as an example or some other artist or song is irrelevant. If the mixolydian scale video was presented by a robot nobody would watch it, simply because people don’t come for that. They watch for you. You are the content. You create the value. Not the Beatles. It’s exactly as you said Rick - it’s a money grab. A fairer money grab would be to reverse the percentages. Eg 67% to you and 33% to the rights holder, because their music is only supplemental to the content you create. The internet is just the Wild West and big corporates just have the best horses, guns and judges in their pockets. I hope you stick around Rick.
Agree, except for the percentages - he shouldn't have to pay a dime for fair use. They should be pleased that someone of his caliber and following played a portion of the song because perhaps people will go out and download the song to hear it in its entirety :-)
Good point, personally I would like to see Rick seeking out and helping promote cool underground bands as that is where the future is at. Bands like Hello Echo, 16 Frames, SeaBear, Soft Pipes, Boy and Bear, The War on Drugs, Jason Lyle, Steve Kilbey, Mental Pictures, Brock Tyler, Still Corners, The Spectacular Fantastic, Adventure Galley, The Elected, just to name a few.... Screw the major labels as they constantly rip everyone off, including the artists themselves. Signing a record deal is like signing a Faustian bargain. It removes ones soul and makes one a creature of the slave system.
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Relentless greed will out... 👍🏻
@@christopherharrison2405 i agree with your comment but Beato has to admit that al his content is about bands that have well made it and dont need him to promote them. Most ppl click on his videos and discover him thanks to the fack his talking about ppl we already know and whose creations we want to know. He is super talented and I enjoy and recomend his channel but he also always uses big name bands to grab your attention. regards
sounds like youtubers should pool together and file a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against the music publishers, false claims are a crime
This seems like a legit good idea
Or, lobby politicians across the board to legally redefine what is fair use of content and what isn't. That might be cheaper and possibly more effective.
Irony when you think of how many protest songs there are, and that the music publishers have become "the man."
Wow, that copyright sharing claim is ridiculous
The fact that Rick said "bogus" and not "bullshit" is a testament to his great restraint.
My thoughts exactly! I was waiting/hoping for him to drop the hammer. He deserves the release
Yes, I could feel that almost escaping....
I was fully expecting the warranted and accurate "BS".
@@williamhurstcampaign6386 yep. It felt natural in the moment. I guess Big Scam is also another form of BS...
It's a sad situation for both online music teachers and musicians!keep up the good work Rick!!👍
Imagine no possessions.
I wonder if you can.
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man.
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world.
We're gonna need 66% of that post...
Bernard you have copyright infringement strike 1...
Could the 'irony totally lost on corporofascists' who control the Lennon cannon be any thicker
But not today....
keep on imagining...
It's a sad day when teachers can't use others music to teach a band's/musician's genius without the record company wanting their pound of flesh 🤬
Adam Neely: You cannot copyright the minor scale.
Record Labels: Hold my beer!
Hold my major beer!?
For real, copyrights 6.8 billion melodies for public domain
Originally in 2011 I had a RUclips channel where I was going over music production, and I was doing a series about New Jack Swing and I was showing the infamous Orchestra hit stabbed that Teddy Riley and Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis would use and I got a copyright strike. I didn't even play a song. I literally just showed the patch that they used and I talked about some songs that used that hit. So I feel you that's why I switched to doing something completely different.
I farted the other day and it happened to sound like the intro vocals on "Oh Darling", 5 minutes later Sony sued me.
Your first name should be Frank. That's how my mind saw it, at first glance. LOL
Man, that's a bum deal.
HAHA i needed a good laugh. Thanks :)
Teaching, Learning, Common sense, Logic, Intellect, Education, Skill and etc. are words that are officially lost in US
It's getting GLOBAL extremly fast!
I can agree my friend.
How did we ever get from Obama to "Oh, bummer"?
@@mondegreen9709 Well you fell for Obama...which proved you would pretty much accept anything if it was propagandised correctly...and you still haven't realised.
I love The Beatles but I'm pretty sure they played many a cover tune back in the early days of clubbing and the original artists never saw a dime. I'd like to think that Paul & Ringo would give their approval of your teaching music theory through the Beatles songs. Pretty sure it's their lawyers along with the record companies solely responsible for this BS.
The Beatles publishing rights were bought by Michael Jackson in the 80s and now Sony owns it all, Paul and Ringo have nothing to do with it
The Beatles have nothing to do with it. It's the copyright owner, which, as Rick explained, is EMI, now owned by Sony.
remember if you wrote the song you'll always get royalties no matter who owns the publishing rights.
@@erichaynes7502 But after the "investor" - the "Rights Holder" - is done collecting their cut, (especially of the profits from a RUclips video which used 14 seconds of a song) - the original artist (if they aren't dead), will get a ridiculously small amount of money. It's like spending a hundred dollars to collect a dime: *it isn't meant to collect any money, really - it's meant to prevent the song from being played or used in any way, by anyone but the "Rights Holder," which, with songs this old, is really just fiscal suicide for ANYTHING the original artist(s) or their next-of-kin might ever see.* Once a song dies, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to resurrect it - like any other event in history, it is eventually written out. It becomes disconnected - a piece of flotsam and jetsam, drifting farther and farther from any frame of reference, or connection to anyone's life, as the people whose youths are connected to it die. Unless younger generations are exposed to it.... POOF! Beyond a certain point, it's just better to let something live on its own - if it is worthwhile, it will survive: Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms: they were all just famous songwriters, whose music was set free - and lives. Corporations are Death personified. The lawyers who work for them are Hyenas, Jackals and Vultures - nothing more.
Keep the faith brother and keep doing what you’re doing. We the masses love your channel and truly appreciate everything you do for us who are trying to learn and better ourselves. Thank you for all you do Rick.
The new standard of the music business: Ripping off RUclipsrs, because we’ve already rip off the artists!!
disclaimer: this video is taken down for mentioning the beatles.
what a bunch of babies. seriously sony should back off.
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Fix comment please, copyright is watching ... sorry ... is watching .
There was a guy in Long Island who started the original muzak corporation because he couldn't play popular tunes in the elevator He went and hired the same musicians they made a water down replica of the kind of music he was trying to give the elevator patron.